SkRaw85
Legend
Does that much mast not dry you out? I’m pretty sure I’m just unlucky but 200mgs and up wrecks my skin and dries my connective tissue. Tendons feel like crispy old rawhide.
Hyde’s Strength Odyssey
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Hyde
Legend
So it’s really dependent on what else is going on in the picture.
For example, I can run about 150-180mg test/wk on cruise with no AI IF I inject daily - EOD shots would still needs a weekly 12.5mg dose of Exemestane. On 500 test/wk split up daily, I would need about 3x12.5mg doses over 2 weeks (12.5mg every 4-5 days). On this 300mg, I was needing 12.5mg once a week generally even with 300 mast, but have stopped that this last 2 weeks - I noticed some acne/oiliness increase, but chest has felt fine. Also consider there was 75mg Var in that time. So this tells me that with daily shots and 400 mast, I seem to tolerate 300 test/wk with no AI finally.
I also normally do 5-10mg sublingual Pregnenolone tabs (Nootropics depot) most days that does increase estrogen burden slightly, but I want the progesterone-mediated collagen synthesis and the extra neurosteroids. I also use CEL BASIS & Joint Edge twice per day, as well as 40mg of UCII collagen (morning on empty stomach) and 20g of beef collagen (mixed in postWO or last meal with Greek yogurt).
Both Broderick Chavez and Dr Todd Lee say that many athletes, and certainly those who use Masteron, should be using a lot more sodium (and a surplus of electrolytes in general). Which jives with what Stan Efferding preached for many years back. So I supplement more salt now, which seems to also make a big difference in keeping joints hydrated and muscles fuller. Every morning I take a 1/4tsp of salt, I have another in my 48oz intra, and will make effort to always salt my food and/or use high sodium sauces, have some sauerkraut or pickles, etc. When it gets hotter in training soon, I’ll probably go to 1/2tsp preWO, and maybe intra.
I also can’t use Nandrolone without crazy aromatization, acne, water retention, BP increase from it. I have to use Ralox or Nolva with it, and you don’t - so you seem to be drier than me naturally, which is the demographic that benefits from 19-Nors the most as they tend to lack absolute size. I’m more in the camp that can put weight on but benefits more from nervous system spark.
sammpedd88
Well-known member
Just curious what doses of Nandrolone you have used in the past that gave you bad sides?
Hyde
Legend
LOW - a single 50mg shot of NPP causes all those sides by the next day. 50-150 NPP/wk, and 100-200mg Deca. Have used multiple times each, to try again and kill off open product. But it’s a guarantee for me - going to need Telmisartan, prolactin control, probably a SERM, more AI if using one. I’d rather use Trestolone or Tren at similar dosages for similar ancillary needs and more anabolism & strength.
I am considering trying 60-75mg Deca, mixed into my daily shots, for the collagen synthesis angle & joint support, but that’s about all I’d try. Nandrolone just doesn’t play nicely with my biology overall.
sammpedd88
Well-known member
Wow it’s crazy how things can vary person to person. I’ve thought about adding some low dose Decca to my TRT for the same benefits you mentioned. I was looking at starting at 50 mgs but that may be a little low. I think the 60 - 75 mgs would be plenty with my TRT dose of 110 mgs of Test C per week.
Hyde
Legend
I’ve heard that range for decanoate thrown out by Ryan Root as effective for many with his TRT practice, so that’s where he starts them if it makes sense to try it for joint padding. Todd Lee has also mentioned greater than 60mg nandrolone is when studies began to show neurotoxicity, so keeping it to 10mg/day for longterm use is probably wise, which aligns with that range. And they’re both actual doctors working with our cohort, so that’s worth something to me.
sammpedd88
Well-known member
Yeah I saw a video of Todd Lee the other day and I remember also talking about keep a 2:1 ratio of test to Decca so I should be fine either way. Also hoping it will speed up my quad injury. So far the BPC and TB have far exceeded my expectations. BPC I’ve used several times but TB with it is pretty unbelievable, personally. I tied to source some GH but the guy was honest with me and told me his last GH supply was not GH so he didn’t want to rip me off.
Hyde
Legend
Yeah many healing/post-surgery protocols involve adding some deca - I’ve used it as such and believe it is valuable for sure.
TB500 is remarkable for torn muscles, assuming you are going through a 5mg every 5-7 days like it should be dosed for an injury. Alex Kikel recommends 10-30mg for a bad tear if money is no option; the more you take the faster you can expect results and less time you will need to keep administering. It just gets expensive/returns diminish some. GH is great, but it’s not necessary. And Mk677 can actually be another option that’s more readily available to help speed recovery. But just TB500 solo is by far what you want to spend your money on if you can only use one thing.
sammpedd88
Well-known member
Going to start adding the decca on Monday. I swear my leg almost feels like I could do some light weighted squats but I’m sticking to wall sits, leg extensions and a few other things to play it smart. I may start some light body weight squats next week while holding onto the squat rack for support. I’m both happy and surprised with how fast my quad is healing.
Dustin07
Legend
haha a guilty pleasure, I probably saw the original 100 times. I guess years later they had changed this scene for somewhat obvious reaons, lol
I'm curious what you notice at 12.5mg var with the other enhancements you have. Reason I say that is because its dynamite to me. I feel like I have even noticed accute effects in pump and strength taken 1hr preWO vs just morning daily dose like a vitamin.
PolishHamm3r77
Well-known member
Been on a Dr Todd Lee kick here myself. Just got his “recommended blood panel” from M and M Labs. Contemplating a consult/blood work read w him. Went at 8:00am and getting a gallon of water in that early was a challenge I get up at 4 but still a challenge
Glad to hear you are mending up nicely.
Hyde
Legend
You should already be bodyweight squatting holding onto the counter or chair right now, if you can without pain above like a 3. I’m not a doctor, but I do know you want to get back to moving through ROM as soon as you reasonably can.
Hold on, take it slow, let your good leg & lats do the bulk of the work, but do try to expose it to ROM if possible. Your body will tell you if it’s just not ready for that, but give it the chance. I suspect if you can wall sit at parallel, you’ll be able to do them holding onto something.
Definite increase in aggression/drive, focus, strength when used preWO. Many times I was driving to the gym thinking, Hell yeah I’m gonna f these weights up today! Just easier to be intense, and pumps are better obviously like all orals. Higher pulse in training.
I was actually a tad worried today heading to squat without it after having it the last couple times, that it would feel harder.
Thanks brother.
I think a gallon is excessive for morning bloodwork. I have found time and again that more water alone only dehydrates me and I start peeing it out like a racehorse before the draw - you have to significantly salt the water to get it to hold past a certain point. Which Todd has stated he does do. Because the point is to be well-hydrated, so you need to be able to actually hold the water in your blood volume.
But I do not drink a gallon ever that early in the day. I do normally drink a half gallon fairly early via training, or my water and coffee nearly, so I do about half a gallon before my draw. I want the results to actually have merit in my reality.
Some people need to raise their water intake, but I don’t, for the most part. So I want the test to show me what a realistic Hematocrit is when I’m training or working in the morning.
Hyde
Legend
5/30/25
BW 239.4 yesterday
3 min Assault Bike
Scap Pushups
Cat Camel
Bird Dogs
Side Plank Activations
Glute Bridges
Hacksquats
Squat, Texas squatbar
55,55,165x5
199,275x3
+belt
319,363x3
391 4x3, 1x10
16” Boxsquat, SSB
175x3
285 3x12
Took 4 sessions and nearly 50 sets of squats to figure it out, but on my last triple with 391 today I realized I needed to pull my shoulder blades together & down to tighten my upper back before locking my brace in. I haven’t been on a straight bar consistently in so long I didn’t even realize I wasn’t performing setup fundamentals.
This makes a colossal difference in tightness & how light the weight feels, and when I unracked the AMRAP I actually thought someone might have pulled a pair of reds off - it felt over 100lbs lighter, without exaggeration. Proceeded to go apeshit & knocked out 10 reps, with gas to spare.
“Don't waste time on a feelin’
Use your passion, no return!”
-Lady Gaga, Abracadabra
BW 239.4 yesterday
3 min Assault Bike
Scap Pushups
Cat Camel
Bird Dogs
Side Plank Activations
Glute Bridges
Hacksquats
Squat, Texas squatbar
55,55,165x5
199,275x3
+belt
319,363x3
391 4x3, 1x10
16” Boxsquat, SSB
175x3
285 3x12
Took 4 sessions and nearly 50 sets of squats to figure it out, but on my last triple with 391 today I realized I needed to pull my shoulder blades together & down to tighten my upper back before locking my brace in. I haven’t been on a straight bar consistently in so long I didn’t even realize I wasn’t performing setup fundamentals.
This makes a colossal difference in tightness & how light the weight feels, and when I unracked the AMRAP I actually thought someone might have pulled a pair of reds off - it felt over 100lbs lighter, without exaggeration. Proceeded to go apeshit & knocked out 10 reps, with gas to spare.
“Don't waste time on a feelin’
Use your passion, no return!”
-Lady Gaga, Abracadabra
PolishHamm3r77
Well-known member
I did salt the water. Well the first 44oz anyways. After that I was on the road for work and “took lunch” at 8 to get the bloodwork done
Hyde
Legend
BW 238.6
Had a whoosh, new recent bodyweight low.
Pretty happy with bloodwork, everything kosher & jives with the current scenario. My LDL is actually lower (114 vs 117) than at the end of 500 test/wk when bulking end of last year, because I have leaned out 11-13lbs since & been maintaining such a tight diet/supplement intake to do so. HDL is worse, 29 vs 37 then, but even a little Var and Tren will do that, and Masteron certainly hurts as well. Liver looks fine for just taking some Var for the pec, Kidney values are particularly good (despite training 38 hours prior to draw no less), and fasted glucose is down to 81. Clearly becoming more insulin sensitive with the fat loss/calorie restriction, Masteron on board, and emphasis on restricting eating windows more often. PSA is very low as expected at 0.49, active T3 is still a solid 2.9 so that’s still holding up fine with the decreased food, and test:estrogen ratio and absolute values are very ideal at 1,498ng/dl and a 79. This is on daily, even shots but with none administered yet before the draw. So on 300 test c/wk my trough values are 1,500
Blood values looking extremely consistent, with RBC at 6.0, Platelets at 294, Hemoglobin at 18.1, and Hematocrit slightly crept up from 54.5 to 55.1. This was a little surprising since Hemoglobin went down from 18.7, and HCT is typically 3x HGB, UNTIL I remembered the BPC exposure for this healing phase - that’s going to drive angiogenesis overall, even if the HGB is properly diluted in total blood volume.
My ferritin is finally up to 109, so I can donate safely at any point if I decide to do so without crashing it under 50. I’m basically at a point blood-wise where if I want to raise test or add any EQ & Nandrolone I will likely want to donate within a month of that, but am otherwise homeostatic if I only drive up Masteron or added some DHB. I don’t think I want to use Dienelone during summer because of the acne it causes me, similar to Tren.
Of note, pulled DHEA Sulfate and it was only 122 (range is ~1-400). So I can and may supplement with some Iconic Neuro DHEA I have, but the caveat is it will raise that very ideal estrogen value I have right now, so I may need a little AI back in to do so.
Had a whoosh, new recent bodyweight low.
Pretty happy with bloodwork, everything kosher & jives with the current scenario. My LDL is actually lower (114 vs 117) than at the end of 500 test/wk when bulking end of last year, because I have leaned out 11-13lbs since & been maintaining such a tight diet/supplement intake to do so. HDL is worse, 29 vs 37 then, but even a little Var and Tren will do that, and Masteron certainly hurts as well. Liver looks fine for just taking some Var for the pec, Kidney values are particularly good (despite training 38 hours prior to draw no less), and fasted glucose is down to 81. Clearly becoming more insulin sensitive with the fat loss/calorie restriction, Masteron on board, and emphasis on restricting eating windows more often. PSA is very low as expected at 0.49, active T3 is still a solid 2.9 so that’s still holding up fine with the decreased food, and test:estrogen ratio and absolute values are very ideal at 1,498ng/dl and a 79. This is on daily, even shots but with none administered yet before the draw. So on 300 test c/wk my trough values are 1,500
Blood values looking extremely consistent, with RBC at 6.0, Platelets at 294, Hemoglobin at 18.1, and Hematocrit slightly crept up from 54.5 to 55.1. This was a little surprising since Hemoglobin went down from 18.7, and HCT is typically 3x HGB, UNTIL I remembered the BPC exposure for this healing phase - that’s going to drive angiogenesis overall, even if the HGB is properly diluted in total blood volume.
My ferritin is finally up to 109, so I can donate safely at any point if I decide to do so without crashing it under 50. I’m basically at a point blood-wise where if I want to raise test or add any EQ & Nandrolone I will likely want to donate within a month of that, but am otherwise homeostatic if I only drive up Masteron or added some DHB. I don’t think I want to use Dienelone during summer because of the acne it causes me, similar to Tren.
Of note, pulled DHEA Sulfate and it was only 122 (range is ~1-400). So I can and may supplement with some Iconic Neuro DHEA I have, but the caveat is it will raise that very ideal estrogen value I have right now, so I may need a little AI back in to do so.
Hyde
Legend
Lol I guess that depends on your definition of beach ready! I am still not lean, just getting to where you can really start to see the shape of my abs instead of a plain gut.Your blood work looks good even with your recent anabolic run….and weight heading into the summer zone area. Gonna have beach ready Hyde in a few weeks.
But I also sport enough muscle mass that even at my fattest, it just can’t be ignored. There’s no question if I train heavy, and I end up getting questions about being a football player or something.
This evening I took my son to the trampoline park while my wife did some shopping - a little girl came up to ask me if I was the security guard
Hyde
Legend
6/1/25
BW 238.6 yesterday
6 min Incline Walk
Scap Pushups
Cat Camel
Bird Dogs
Side-Plank Activations
Explosive Pushups
Reverse Arm Circles
45* Incline NG DB Press
25,40,55x15
75x30,29 dammit
Rolling EZBar Skullcrushers
107.5 2x15
V-bar Cable Tri Pressdown
75x25,20
WG Barbell Rows
45,115x8
175,195x12
Incline DB Rows
50x8
75 2x15
Standing Calves
100 4x10
1 min stretch
Reverse Pec Deck
80x33,27,18 -> 60x12 ds
Gave her hell today, but it was a tough one. Got shaky after first set of 30 on incline DB, put everything into it to get them. Took some glucose tabs and rested 8-9 minutes, but when got to rep 30 on the second set it just died on me. Skipped shrugs because I didn’t have the gas to do anything that would constitute a stimulus. Overall happy with all of it; I’ve just progressed up to weights that progress has inevitably slowed, especially with the deficit.
BW 238.6 yesterday
6 min Incline Walk
Scap Pushups
Cat Camel
Bird Dogs
Side-Plank Activations
Explosive Pushups
Reverse Arm Circles
45* Incline NG DB Press
25,40,55x15
75x30,29 dammit
Rolling EZBar Skullcrushers
107.5 2x15
V-bar Cable Tri Pressdown
75x25,20
WG Barbell Rows
45,115x8
175,195x12
Incline DB Rows
50x8
75 2x15
Standing Calves
100 4x10
1 min stretch
Reverse Pec Deck
80x33,27,18 -> 60x12 ds
Gave her hell today, but it was a tough one. Got shaky after first set of 30 on incline DB, put everything into it to get them. Took some glucose tabs and rested 8-9 minutes, but when got to rep 30 on the second set it just died on me. Skipped shrugs because I didn’t have the gas to do anything that would constitute a stimulus. Overall happy with all of it; I’ve just progressed up to weights that progress has inevitably slowed, especially with the deficit.
gphagan1
Legend
Man you were putting in some reps on that workout….that DB Press with 75s for 30 and then 29 impressive, and then all the other volume added in not only tested your muscle endurance, but that hit on the cardio dial as well.
Hyde
Legend
Man you were putting in some reps on that workout….that DB Press with 75s for 30 and then 29 impressive, and then all the other volume added in not only tested your muscle endurance, but that hit on the cardio dial as well.
I believe the quote from Swede in the 5th Set book regarding them was something like, “…which can become something of a religious experience.”
Hyde
Legend
BW 237.2
Woke up at 238.4, basically what my recent low weight was Saturday - then after my coffee by late morning I’d dropped to almost 237! Gut has been looking tighter even after meals recently. Powerbelt has been feeling looser Friday & Sunday, so we’ll see tomorrow on deadlifts if it might time to bring her in another notch yet. The belt don’t lie!
Been hungry a lot, but ran out of Lean GLP end of last week so that jives. Also reaffirms the appetite suppression I believed I had been getting the last couple months from it. Pretty potent product overall; I think it will help a lot of people who give it a chance. Took about 10 days before I really started to notice that I was definitely less hungry less often.
Woke up at 238.4, basically what my recent low weight was Saturday - then after my coffee by late morning I’d dropped to almost 237! Gut has been looking tighter even after meals recently. Powerbelt has been feeling looser Friday & Sunday, so we’ll see tomorrow on deadlifts if it might time to bring her in another notch yet. The belt don’t lie!
Been hungry a lot, but ran out of Lean GLP end of last week so that jives. Also reaffirms the appetite suppression I believed I had been getting the last couple months from it. Pretty potent product overall; I think it will help a lot of people who give it a chance. Took about 10 days before I really started to notice that I was definitely less hungry less often.
sammpedd88
Well-known member
I was just going to say something about Swede and those sets until I read your comment lol
SkRaw85
Legend
Thanks for reminding me my fat ass needs to go up on the lever belt. Bustin out like a can of biscuits
gphagan1
Legend
I’m really intrigued by Steve’s new one CEL Cordarine…..it looks like a really good product for endurance, metabolism, and fat loss/recomp. Ordering some to start next week.
Smont
Legend
For the longest time I had a feeling he would make something like that. I was surprised he made the name so close, But at the same time I'm thinking to myself you have to because you need everyone to know it's supposed to be the natural version of this other thing we're all worried about. I don't have much fear about the cancer stuff but at the same time maybe I do because I do limit my use of cartering to when I'm only using tren or orals. And even though I didn't plan on using it anytime soon I've been thinking to myself I probably shouldn't use it while I'm on HGH just in case. So obviously I have a little bit of a fear somewhere in there. I haven't really ripped the supplement apart yet and I'm sure it's not going to do all of the things carderine does nor would I expect it to, I mean if it does Steve's going to be a billionaire lol. But put all that aside It is a super interesting product and it's probably caught my attention more than anything natural that's come out in a long timeI’m really intrigued by Steve’s new one CEL Cordarine…..it looks like a really good product for endurance, metabolism, and fat loss/recomp. Ordering some to start next week.
gphagan1
Legend
His CEL BASIS is another new one he’s came out with recently that is good. I’ve been taking that one for a month now, and it definitely helps with recovery, and I believe has helped my shoulder to continue to heal even quicker. I will probably keep that one in my daily routine year round now, just for those benefits.
Dustin07
Legend
I noticed the same thing. really made fasting a lot easier when I was running Lean GLP. I was surprised because not much can usually supress my appetite
I haven't tried the Cordarine or the Basis, but I gotta say in my current stack, I really like Alpha One for accute/immediate work (pumps, vascularity), Phosphatidic Acid XT for all day muscle hardness, and lately throwing in that Prime XT and ATP Elite has really shocked me. could be any number of reasons but it seems like strength and sessions are improved already. Anabolic Effect and Anabolic XT are such sleepers I don't "feel" anything directly but always have better training cycles with them thrown in. of course, XPG carnitine is a long time favorite for me.
Hyde
Legend
This made me laugh big. There is power with size! Unfortunately it’s so baked into people’s subconscious that bigger is stronger they tend to almost dismiss it, but if you get bigger you will get stronger
Hyde
Legend
6/3/25
BW 237.2 yesterday
3 min Assault Bike
Scap Pushups
Cat Camel
Bird Dogs
Side Plank Activations
Glute Bridges
Singe-leg Glute Bridges
Deadlift, powerbar
44x10
154x6,3
220,242,286x3
+belt
314,352,374x3
396, 407 2x3 each
Below-the Knee Rackpulls
319 2x12
Sumo 3” Blockpulls
319 2x10
I did need to bring my belt in a hole today, and when I put it back on it was still on the loose side, but I figure I can wait until squats to see if I really want it yet another hole tighter.
Pulls felt heavy, but I pulled on the kilo plates today & it’s another week with pain-free progress in the books so I’m happy with it. Plus technique is feeling more consistent for sure - I have been working on keeping my delts further over the bar, instead of falling too far behind it & losing my hip leverage.
BW 237.2 yesterday
3 min Assault Bike
Scap Pushups
Cat Camel
Bird Dogs
Side Plank Activations
Glute Bridges
Singe-leg Glute Bridges
Deadlift, powerbar
44x10
154x6,3
220,242,286x3
+belt
314,352,374x3
396, 407 2x3 each
Below-the Knee Rackpulls
319 2x12
Sumo 3” Blockpulls
319 2x10
I did need to bring my belt in a hole today, and when I put it back on it was still on the loose side, but I figure I can wait until squats to see if I really want it yet another hole tighter.
Pulls felt heavy, but I pulled on the kilo plates today & it’s another week with pain-free progress in the books so I’m happy with it. Plus technique is feeling more consistent for sure - I have been working on keeping my delts further over the bar, instead of falling too far behind it & losing my hip leverage.
gphagan1
Legend
Nice pull day, and definitely a plus being pain free.
Smont
Legend
Does everything crush your estrogen? I remember you saying that with EQ, mast, winni and maybe primo? At least I'm pretty sure it was you. Masteron doesn't really seem to affect my estrogen but it does seem to control estrogen side effects, EQ for me is amazing estrogen control, If I run test and EQ 1-1 it's the smoothest cycle ever. I mean I've never tried like a gram and a gram but 300 each or 375 each or 450 each all amazing. Never had a issue on winni I don't believe either. Something happened to me (I think trest) at like 35 and my estrogen has been weird ever since. EQ seems to work for me better than an AI
Does anything give you gyno?
MrKleen73
Legend
I believe nandrolone might have been mentioned as an issue previously.
Hyde
Legend
I have never used Winny, and Primo is a great AI for me so you’re definitely thinking of someone else. Primo worked remarkably well with the last Trest run too, as an aside.
Everything that isn’t a DHT can give me gyno lol. Too much estrogen, too much prolactin (which raises often for me just with high estrogen), progesterone-receptor agonism from 19-Nors, even via the GH pathway I’ve grown gyno from MK677 when otherwise natty for long periods and higher bodyfat.
I used 120 EQ on a cruise once with 120 test and my joints got dry by week 7 and bloodwork showed lipids had no recovery from my blast & blood was actually thicker, so it must lower my E2 to make the joints and lipids be as such. I did order a vial recently, but if I use it it would be 1-150mg added for collagen synthesis and to peel a little estradiol off on a blast. Not sure I’d even have time for it to be worth it this blast. Might be done within 12 weeks.
Hyde
Legend
Yeah I often need a SERM or Caber with any real 19-Nor doses. And Telmisartan; the BP increase on them is immediate.
Hyde
Legend
6/4/25
BW 238.8
4 min Incline Walk
Lat Pulldown warmups
V-Grip Chin-ups
3x14
Hoist Roc-it Horizontal Row
245x3
345x12,13
Legpress
+90,180x10
360,540x3
720 3x10 w/ 3-sec eccentrics
Leg Extensions
65,125x6
165x3
205,225x15
Standing Calves
100x12,12,12,9+4
45 sec stretch
Alt DB Hammercurls
25x10
40x6
50x12,11
Kneeling Pulldown Abs
88 2x15
More weight or reps on everything this week. Up to 8 plates on the tempo legpress, and it felt really strong. I can see that my legs are truly growing, and I’m JUST starting to get quad veins bulging enough to see during a set as I slowly lean out.
Wife told me I was looking good tonight, not in her general supportive or loving way, but in a ‘I’m really seeing the changes too’ kind of way. So that was cool, to hear she’s enjoying the progress as well.
BW 238.8
4 min Incline Walk
Lat Pulldown warmups
V-Grip Chin-ups
3x14
Hoist Roc-it Horizontal Row
245x3
345x12,13
Legpress
+90,180x10
360,540x3
720 3x10 w/ 3-sec eccentrics
Leg Extensions
65,125x6
165x3
205,225x15
Standing Calves
100x12,12,12,9+4
45 sec stretch
Alt DB Hammercurls
25x10
40x6
50x12,11
Kneeling Pulldown Abs
88 2x15
More weight or reps on everything this week. Up to 8 plates on the tempo legpress, and it felt really strong. I can see that my legs are truly growing, and I’m JUST starting to get quad veins bulging enough to see during a set as I slowly lean out.
Wife told me I was looking good tonight, not in her general supportive or loving way, but in a ‘I’m really seeing the changes too’ kind of way. So that was cool, to hear she’s enjoying the progress as well.
Smont
Legend
Ya it definitely wasn't you then
Smont
Legend
I do remember that but I was thinking of someone else for the other stuff. I think me and him had the same repeat experience with deca. I've often asked myself why I keep trying to use it again
gphagan1
Legend
Sounds like you’ve got a good recomp going on….weights and reps going up and body fat % going down. And good work on leg press.
sammpedd88
Well-known member
Don’t lose too much weight. In the wise words of Dave Tate, “anything under 200 is a girl!” Nah that’s awesome you’re dropping BF and your lifts are increasing. Keep up the good work bro!
Dustin07
Legend
don't fly too close to the sun!
Hyde
Legend
She’s always be preferred leaner guys in general; I was just too damn handsome to her even when thick that she couldn’t say no
So she always backs me whatever endeavor I undertake, but I think she also knows I will never be one of those guys who just gets truly obese and then stays there. It’s just not my way.
MrKleen73
Legend
Yeah, the largest pair of pants I have now is a 34 inch waist. If those get snug it is dieting time for certain. I will not allow myself to buy another pair of 36's. It is just too far out of shape for me personally. I could probably fit decently into a 32 right now, but think they would be a little snug.She’s always be preferred leaner guys in general; I was just too damn handsome to her even when thick that she couldn’t say no
So she always backs me whatever endeavor I undertake, but I think she also knows I will never be one of those guys who just gets truly obese and then stays there. It’s just not my way.
Hyde
Legend
I am looking good in most of all of my XL shirts again, while retaining enough muscle that I can pull off a lot of my 2XL. So I know between performance metrics and clothes I am doing a good job keeping my gains in all this.
My hope is if I get lean enough, I can eventually produce a similar package to my 268lb strength in the low 250s & hit the lifts at 242. I know this can work for deadlifts; it’s just a matter of having more muscle to do it with squat & bench.