Dude I started as holding back puke and finished trying not to **** my pants lol. It was a rough stomach sessionHappy birthday man!!!
Also glad you didn’t have to puke and rally that last sesh
Happy late birthday! Nice session and awesome PR on your boys bench!Sunday bro sesh with my boy
Bench
15 x bar, 95
1 x 155, 185, 225, 255, 285, 295
Slingshot
1 x 315
Raw
9 x 225
Squats
10 x 95
1 x 135, 185, 225, 275, 305
Hacks
5 x +180, +270, + 360(pr I think)
Overhead cable extensions
3 sets
EZ bar curls
1 set
Notes
Today was for love of the game. Bangin' and clangin'. No ground balls, no windsprints, no fartlickers, just playing the game for fun today.
Almost...almost went for 305 but I could just tell it was above what I could handle that day so dropped back to 295 for a clean rep .
My boy PRd bench at a clean 195.
Happy birthday man!!!
Happy birthday….good job holding your puke and still finishing.
Happy (late) Birthday!
Happy belated birthday!
Happy late birthday! Nice session and awesome PR on your boys bench!
Happy Belated Brother
You choking the puke back and getting through the lift shows how powerful the mindset is
haha, right? It's not that 375 x 5 was some monster set for me or anything but getting that little extra push from a stranger definitely helped get the job done that day.No way to back out when some big fugger comes with the fist bump and says something cool like "Take it for a ride!" I mean you have got to, even if you spew during the attempt!!!
Happy belated!
Yes I think it’s a solid program to push your bench hard in a short timeframe, provided you will be eating in a surplus/bulking. It’s a LOT of high effort volume in both bench variations and supplemental bodybuilding work. Not something to turn to routinely, just for a focused phase.
I have used it 3-4 times, and been hurt at least twice (once straining a pec & last time my serratus). You have to keep the AMRAP work clean, devoid of any technical breakdown. Every week you are taking things to failure, so that needs to be technical failure, not muscular. I was careful last time; my body just struggled to keep up around week 3. My ART guy was working overtime on me trying to keep my shoulders/pecs/elbows working 100%.
You can take a program like that and always slow it down a little, stretch it out. Or cut a little out, drop an AMRAP here or accessory out there, if you are getting beat up. But you have to eat and sleep big no matter what.
Looks like you are getting bit by the strength bug again. I honestly don't think you are at a point you really need to do a bench focus to see the gains you want to see. I personally would not let my quads or squats get any further behind and focus on getting them up for a while if PL training is something you want to pursue. If benching sounds awesome then do a squat and bench focus and limit DL a bit. You can probably maintain your dead lifts with 2 hard sessions a month as long as you are working on building the squat at the same time. Other than that, choose a PL specific program you want to follow and give it some hell.
Pulls and squats on same day and weekly is going to accrue a good amount of fatigue. What percentages for those are you thinking? Just listen to your body and be honest with yourself if you go this route.
The Predator template was designed to be run with the regular Cube rotation going on for squats and deadlifts - Brandon didn’t stop training his lower body seriously; that was simply something I did.
I think this is a perfect time to commit to Hi Bar work on squat. If you do that, it shouldn’t impact your shoulders any, plus the amount of food you will be eating will make this a great time to drive your leg growth in tandem. Think about this as an opportunity to get more jacked all around, upper and lower.
No karate kids? I keep forgetting to try these
Yeah Klokov destroyed me, lol. 531 was always good for two cycles, third would smash me. What really got me on this one I think was AMRAP > AMRAP > AMRAP > AMRAP. Doing that, with time constraints felt like doing four mini wods, lol.I guess I just don't see why you should feel worried anything will slide. There are so many ways to approach this that even if you focus on one you really shouldn't see any major decreases in another unless you are really neglecting the proper things. I really think you shouldn't sell yourself short on how much you can improve multiple things at once in many cases.
Also honestly when you say it feels hard I think that is because this is the kind of training you need to be doing. I don't mean to feel like a broken record, but more actual rep work and less just building to singles all the time. It is in the same line of thought as (idk what thread it was in) how I think people think things aren't hard when there is like more RIR or lower RPE, but real repetition on strength work is challenging and where tons of the benefits are being built.
It is probably just a bit of a shock jumping to 5 sets right away even if it is lighter.
While idk if that is the right program for you or for right now, but I think there would be value in finding something with an actual progression (again like that or something else) where you consistently are working on building these same movements over time will be very beneficial.
I see Hyde's post as I am writing this and ya if you are still cutting it may be rough jumping right into something like that (considering potential large changes in work). The negative of jumping right into some of these pre-planned programs is many don't build up at times, but sometimes just drop you right into the fire.
I'll grab the link for you tomorrow, it left a lot of questions for me. I just ran it as it was presented but I did base it on a 300lb max despite 295 being my local high. I also was not sure if I was supposed to calculate on a true max or a training max like wendler did, so it's possible my numbers are based on anywhere from 5-30lbs too much.Lol you found out that Light Day just means the primary Bench absolute load is lesser than the Heavy Day…but it’s actually the Volume Day! AKA you should be eating the most food of your entire week the day prior to & on this day, because you stand to realize the greatest overall hypertrophy stimulus of your training week.
I think if you do this program while actually cutting you are asking for an injury. I’m not saying you need to try to push the scale up, but you should really target a modest surplus of 3-400 calories at least to try to recover sufficiently & make the work worthwhile.
I don’t know what calculator you’re using, but all of the accessories are really just bodybuilding rep scheme based. Pick the weight that lets you hit the target reps listed near failure, and try to generally progress that whenever it seems doable. Only the primary bench/variants have suggested %.
Specifically in the context of this program, because it is so short & focused, I have found you want to set the max more or less as the realistic weight you plan to hit. I believe I set everything at 400 to prepare for 405, for the sake of letting me do all the weights mentally (80% is just 80x4=320, for example).I'll grab the link for you tomorrow, it left a lot of questions for me. I just ran it as it was presented but I did base it on a 300lb max despite 295 being my local high. I also was not sure if I was supposed to calculate on a true max or a training max like wendler did, so it's possible my numbers are based on anywhere from 5-30lbs too much.
Although this calculator has me attempting 303lbs+ on week six so I'm guessing it's based on true 1RM
That makes sense to me. Unless I hear other advice over the next couple weeks I'll pretty much cruise, enjoy BB style volume, work on quads and squat form/ROM then switch gears once I drop a few more lbs and give this program a full college try effort.Specifically in the context of this program, because it is so short & focused, I have found you want to set the max more or less as the realistic weight you plan to hit. I believe I set everything at 400 to prepare for 405, for the sake of letting me do all the weights mentally (80% is just 80x4=320, for example).
So you probably do want to set everything at 300, because you’re probably good for it right now and it’s going to offer the same perfect percentage math as well as proximity to a PR weight range.
Tbh, this sounds a lot like my plan, just with much less total poundage than you.it's lingering there. When I come back and test my bench and find it holding on pretty well, it does make me want to push it again to new levels.... 315 is quite the siren for me right now, lol.
Totally agree. I think my off the cuff thinking was volume bench, volume squats, and light weight deads just for ROM practice.
OK so here's where I am. weighed in at 187 today. Arbitrary goal was 185 by end of month, so I'd have to be retarded to not hit that goal. When I benched 295 this weekend in a "for fun" session with my boy at ~190lbs it got my brain wondering if I could hit 315 at 190 in 2025. I mean 295lbs at 188-190lbs feels to me as great as my 300lbs at 200lbs bodyweight.
Oct 30-Nov 3rd I have a family engagement with my step kids and son and wife. I expect no good lifting.
Then, aside from a brief surgery for my wife Nov 7th, I am home and able to focus until January 29th. That's 15 weeks.
I have thought about finishing my cutting goal at 180lbs. Then switching gears to focus on that 3-wheeled bench. Here's what I know short term:
a. I don't want to weigh 200lbs+Jan 29th when I travel. I'm just not as comfortable at that weight. When I get home I'd be more open to a short bulk.
b. I have not been good at energy mitigation when training all three lifts.
c. a 315 bench is more important to me than a 405 squat, but I'm really finally enjoying squats. and I would like to keep focusing on them secondary to bench.
d. my lingering concern is losing my deads entirely. over training everything, or simply gaining an uncomfortable amount of fat.
So yeah, I'd like to see this cut through to the finish line, focus on bench, then squats, and TRY to preserve deads.
I don't think it's bad at all, I expected water retention from a sodium rich meal and waking up a pound lighter after a Weds night meal that normally leaves me +3lbs was weird! LolThe less carbs you eat, the more sodium you should probably have (relative to the range that works well for you).
I do not understand why you seem to think salt is bad. Especially in a deficit with less carbs, they become more important to stay hydrated when less carbs are able to carry water into the muscles.
How the beef been?
How the beef been?
sooo good. last night I definitely made up for the weight loss. Wife has been asking for some sort of soup for a while and yesterday we had a weird day with a cancer screening for her (clean bill of health) and my gym session was sorta inbetween trips around drs, so she spent the second half of the day putting together some stew and I did indeed find those missing 3lbs last night, weighing in at 187 this morningThis is the real question here
LMAO!!! Now you know when they are ambiguous about things you have to clarify what they want. Of course you risk annoying them because they are certain they were already clear about what they wanted.
Glad the screening checked out normal for yall!
Ha, I’m 60 and my wife now is my third wife, and we’ve been married 29 years, and I’m still learning the language. The hidden messages and signals between words is still the hardest part. I will say learning their love language, what makes them feel special, sexy, turned on, and appreciated is a big key to understanding them. Man after that we just have to wing it, and not let there emotions driven thinking cloud our practical thinking, and just accept that we just are wired differently. Ha, now you know if she says she wants soup, just say “you know Babe that’s a great idea. Do you want to make it or me?” And then you’ve got points in reserve for whatever you’re hormone’s desire.sooo good. last night I definitely made up for the weight loss. Wife has been asking for some sort of soup for a while and yesterday we had a weird day with a cancer screening for her (clean bill of health) and my gym session was sorta inbetween trips around drs, so she spent the second half of the day putting together some stew and I did indeed find those missing 3lbs last night, weighing in at 187 this morning
On another note, not to throw her under the bus, but bro talk here:
She texted me Tuesday that she felt like it was a soup night. I was like.. OK. Usually that means she wants to make soup. I have no idea how she's going to make soup last minute, and my appetite has been low since dropping gear cream so I'm patient to see what she wants to do for dinner. She gets home angry that I haven't started anything. What should I have started? "I don't know brussels and tilapia, like normal??"
But you said you wanted soup. "yeah but you could have started up some fish and veggies or something".
So soup means tilapia?
Long story short I ended up making an egg white omlette, I'm not sure what she had
I've been married like 20 of my 24 adult years and I still don't speak the language.
Ahaha so much truth to all that. Lately my catch phrase has been "and that's why we die younger"Ha, I’m 60 and my wife now is my third wife, and we’ve been married 29 years, and I’m still learning the language. The hidden messages and signals between words is still the hardest part. I will say learning their love language, what makes them feel special, sexy, turned on, and appreciated is a big key to understanding them. Man after that we just have to wing it, and not let there emotions driven thinking cloud our practical thinking, and just accept that we just are wired differently. Ha, now you know if she says she wants soup, just say “you know Babe that’s a great idea. Do you want to make it or me?” And then you’ve got points in reserve for whatever you’re hormone’s desire.
And sometimes we just have to realize they are women, and we just can’t win in some situations, but we love them anyway.
That’s great news that she got the all clear from the Doctors.![]()

. I swear every time I cut a life obligation / stress she fills it with two new ones lol. I will say one step in maturity on my part is recognizing that when she's chatty, it's cause she's happy. I've learned to really look forward to that and enjoy it whereas the old me would have been annoyed as hell by too much chatter lol 

Facts. When they r quiet their gears r turning. Calm b4 the storm if you willAhaha so much truth to all that. Lately my catch phrase has been "and that's why we die younger". I swear every time I cut a life obligation / stress she fills it with two new ones lol. I will say one step in maturity on my part is recognizing that when she's chatty, it's cause she's happy. I've learned to really look forward to that and enjoy it whereas the old me would have been annoyed as hell by too much chatter lol
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Facts. When they r quiet their gears r turning. Calm b4 the storm if you will


Yep, all true, and they tend to stress and worry more than us, and then get upset if we aren’t worrying enough with them . My wife is chatty when in a good mood too, but like Hammer said, when quiet…the calm before the storm.Ahaha so much truth to all that. Lately my catch phrase has been "and that's why we die younger". I swear every time I cut a life obligation / stress she fills it with two new ones lol. I will say one step in maturity on my part is recognizing that when she's chatty, it's cause she's happy. I've learned to really look forward to that and enjoy it whereas the old me would have been annoyed as hell by too much chatter lol
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“What’s the matter, babe?”Yep, all true, and they tend to stress and worry more than us, and then get upset if we aren’t worrying enough with them . My wife is chatty when in a good mood too, but like Hammer said, when quiet…the calm before the storm.![]()
Facts. When they r quiet their gears r turning. Calm b4 the storm if you will
“What’s the matter, babe?”
“Nothing, everything’s fine.”
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Agreed, when the wife is in the mood for chit chat even if I am not I will ride it out and let her be happy. Plus if I engage properly those chatty moments can lead to other much more fun moments!Ahaha so much truth to all that. Lately my catch phrase has been "and that's why we die younger". I swear every time I cut a life obligation / stress she fills it with two new ones lol. I will say one step in maturity on my part is recognizing that when she's chatty, it's cause she's happy. I've learned to really look forward to that and enjoy it whereas the old me would have been annoyed as hell by too much chatter lol
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It's funny even AI doesn't try to give you the real meaning of fine, but tries to guide you through what a woman means when she says it.
Agreed, when the wife is in the mood for chit chat even if I am not I will ride it out and let her be happy. Plus if I engage properly those chatty moments can lead to other much more fun moments!