Than you Sir!
Yeah my thoughts too.
Yeah, Masters BB .middleweight. Just checked in at 195.2. So now it is go time for food! Slammed a 32 oz pedialyte in about 15 minutes right after weigh-ins. Will start eating real food in about 10.
We could form an entourage called “The Kleening Crew”. Maybe spell crew w a “K” or like Motley “Crue”. Get T shirts made for when Kleen becomes famous as a Masters Pro/influencer/trainer. He’s already in I.T. So we have a background for that. You currently operate a business and have contacts, I’m sure Smont has a “guy” for anything we might need, Hyde’s Co can provide fiber connectivity and I can maintain the network.stoked for you, I love that this has become an entire season of comp for you!
Right now one of my favorite sports shows
kill it!
Sorry I missed the updates brother, but congratulations. You looked great, full, grainy and massive. Actually if I didn’t know your weight, I would think you were in a bigger weight class. Even through all the challenges you looked massive and shredded, and looking at these pictures your posing was on point.
The illest?I googled patrick bodybuilder trainer instagram chris and went through 15 profiles until I found it
Nice! Thank you
@gphagan1 Thanks for the compliments, and I wish that was my placing. They are just in alphabetical order right now. I think I may be last or was at the back of the line because I had the highest number. Either way, I am very proud of myself. I will fgo into the story shortly, going to a reply to all the comments first but wanted this one to follow yours so that no one else might think I had done really well. I mean I did well regardless, but I did not place well.I went to the NPC website and the North American Nationals were already posted. It was a huge show….I don’t want to reveal anything so Chris can do it himself, but I will say he looked good in the photos and did really good.
Chris brother you should be very proud of where you placed and how much you accomplished. It is very impressive and really amazing knowing everything you’ve been through. And you looked like a beast up there.
Thanks Dustin!stoked for you, I love that this has become an entire season of comp for you!
Right now one of my favorite sports shows
kill it!
I am digging it!
Sorry, I didn't see this before we did all the meals.
Thank you Sir!Sorry I missed the updates brother, but congratulations. You looked great, full, grainy and massive. Actually if I didn’t know your weight, I would think you were in a bigger weight class. Even through all the challenges you looked massive and shredded, and looking at these pictures your posing was on point.
I think you will take it tomorrow.
Awesome Brother, thanks for following and than you very much!
Thanks!!!
It really was in spite of all the extenuating issues.
Thanks!
Yeah he got annoyed, he posted something to his story earlier before he saved it and wasn't able to capture any pics off of it but that one. He didn't realize what had happened before it was too late.
Now that is dedication!I googled patrick bodybuilder trainer instagram chris and went through 15 profiles until I found it
Yes Sir!
He really did a bang up job this weekend with what we ended up working through.
Thanks Man!
Sorry about the mistake of thinking the order I saw was the results, and really sorry you had a tough time adjusting water, that had to be extremely stressful and I’m sure the cortisol increase from stress didn’t help. But man it’s very encouraging to hear how you’re viewing this experience, just another stepping stone, and so glad you haven’t gotten discouraged and given up, because from what I have seen you absolutely belong, and to jump so quickly into the big pond with the big boys is very honorable. And again you belong. It’s such a fine line between your peak and holding water or being flat, but every experience is a learning one for you and your coach to see how your body reacts to the different adjustments you have to make. Most people have no clue what it takes to compete at that level.
So things were a little off on the “pageantry” side of things as far as getting dialed in…..
Oh, No worries, I thought the same thing when I first saw it and was like WTF that makes no sense considering where I was in call outs.
Thanks Segan, I am very proud of myself and honestly have no regrets other than how much money we spent on this but it is a part of the game and has made me realize if I am going to do this I am going to need a 2nd source of income. So along with some other things I intend to start doing some coaching. I am going to start with some lifestyle clients, not competitors just yet. I also intend to go to more local shows, and watch them so I have a better understanding of how everything needs to go. I consider the money spent here spent on education. Pat is working with me to teach me a few little tricks to make coaching and meal planning easier for me to do, and is going to kind of help me with instagram and other things to help build a following of some sort. Once I have a better following I should be able to get a few clients here and there and hopefuly as I grow into it I can get a decent amount of clients. Ideally this could become something I can do for myself and if it actually took off a change in careers could be ahead for me into something I truly enjoy and love. Something I have tons of interest in and self-educate myself on all the time because I honestly love it.
Thank you Sir, these are my thoughts exactly. Now we improve, and come in better some time next year. I will try to do one in Houston this time so I can have the rest of my family come if they want to.
But of course!Told you bro: Dbol, Pizzas & GOMAD every day last week of prep would have brought you in full, tight, cut, dry AF
I’m glad you enjoyed the show, actually going to the comp & that process. You did a great job getting into very good shape; as you said, you belonged up there. I’m happy for you
Yeah, I was very happy when I saw the pictures that I looked like I belonged there. First thing in the morning I doubt anyone would have said that. Coach did an amazing job of bringing a sh!t show into a very respectable look. Thanks Dustin! Means a lot, I feel how people handle adversity shows their true nature. My responses to the adversity are honestly the biggest thing I am proud of here. I have proven to myself how strong of an individual I can be and also learned where my weakness and prioritization of importance of things were lacking. I have good size, I have good shape, and great symmetry. My body is more aesthetic than most of the guys I saw on stage. I was missing conditioning and polishing of the pageantry side of things.
That would be awesome, I will reach out to you tomorrow. Just kind of taking a down day today.
No worries I figured as much. Enjoy the day and that pizza looks da bomb!I just demolished 2 more pieces of pizza, and am taking down a whey shake right now. YUM!!! Check out this Pizza, is AMAZING! So FIRE! it is a place called Caliente and it is fire for damn sure.
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But of course!
Thanks Dustin! Means a lot, I feel how people handle adversity shows their true nature. My responses to the adversity are honestly the biggest thing I am proud of here. I have proven to myself how strong of an individual I can be and also learned where my weakness and prioritization of importance of things were lacking. I have good size, I have good shape, and great symmetry. My body is more aesthetic than most of the guys I saw on stage. I was missing conditioning and polishing of the pageantry side of things.
The biggest surprise for me which my posing coach woefully forgot to prepare me for was standing in Front Relaxed for long periods of time. While first call outs were out there and doing their thing, I was standing in Front Relaxed for probably 7 minutes. By the time I was able to walk to the posing position the outside of my ankles were just gone from spreading the flor as hard as i could to keep my legs popping. Totally on fire, and no stability. Once I started walking to the posing square my ankles were weak wobbly, and on fire which made firing my legs so hard. Plus keeping balance when the outside of your ankles are gassed is almost impossible. I lost my balance once or twice while setting up poses due to this. So we will be working up to 10-minute-long drills of standing in front relaxed as well as making sure I stay in the "relaxed position" while transitioning between poses. Pat told me I have a sleeper body, when relaxed I look much softer and smaller. So when I would relax even for a second or so between a pose, I would lose that shape and size.
As mentioned previously, we know what to work on now. We have a little bit of a map there and we plan to stay leaner this year throughout. One for ease of prep, and 2 a leaner body will help me attract clients on instagram. By the way since I will need a following starting anyone who can start following me there and commenting or getting a little traction on the page that would be awesome. My handle is @OldManKleen. Not much up there, but I will start posting some more pics up soon.
That would be awesome, I will reach out to you tomorrow. Just kind of taking a down day today.
Agreed, some were in amazing condition though in person but had some aesthetic issues and a lot of HGH guts. I would guess I was on the least gear there in the open bodybuilding at least for people in light heavy weight and above. I think if I were this full and as dry as in most of my fasted check ins recently I would have made first call out regardless of my novice errors.
Yeah and it is brutal if you haven't trained for it. My outer ankles, and soleus were on fire!
I did the same as Dustin and compared the other competitors’ photos and that’s why I said no doubt that you belong. That’s actually part of why I thought you took second when I saw the list, because I could totally see you taking first or second, and your group was very impressive, so I’m sure it was tough on the judges. But I thought your size, condition, and symmetry had you at the top. And I agree that your symmetry actually was the best in my book. I need to be a judge, I would be fair and objective.
Yeah me too but we will probably do Masters Nationals for the next big one after a local practice show. It will be a slightly easier show but still a big one, and could earn pro card there if I won. I think almost a year of additional practice on all of the pageantry stuff, and coming in 2% leaner we will be a force to be reconned with in any Masters competition. If we can add 1-3lbs lbm in the process I will look insanely impressive.
I think you‘ll do good in the Master Nationals. The more you get conditioned to the prep , posing, and day of the show pageantry, the more natural it will become and everything starts flowing easier. I’m amazed at how quickly you were able to compete at this level of show and were right there with them at the end, and guarantee that group was tough for the judges. I know you were drained.
After a lifetime of building I am often surprised that people can just stop and give it all up, there must be a level of depression at play. "The lion likes the hunt". We all need and take breaks but it's hard for me to understand how a guy can walk away for good. I often wonder if there is a day I would do that, but my dad still lifts every day. Maybe he's just setting the standard for me. Hopefully I'm doing the same for my boy!
Yeah, it is easier than you think to end up on a break if life interrupts and some are too proud to come back and be humble enough to start again for a while or ever. I have had periods of a 1-2 years I didnt.
Yeah, exactly….my buddy was 47 when he quit training, but like you said he got depressed and just gave it all up. We actually trained in Kenpo Karate together, when we were younger, and he did stay with that, and would play football, basketball, and softball with us, but he gave up weightlifting and now at 67 he uses the Chuck Norris I think it’s total gym or something, and lost his beer belly, but he tells us giving up and leaving the gym was one of his biggest regrets. Man through all my injuries I still can’t give it up. That’s another reason you inspire me Kleen, is you’re just a little younger than me, and seeing you navigate around injuries and life and then actually compete just shows what we can do when we truly dedicate ourselves. Sorry Kleen wasn’t trying to derail with my buddy’s story, just thought he was a good example of the opposite end of the spectrum in giving up and how you pushed through and actually made this a growing opportunity in your life. And I think it’s really cool you coaching on the side, because when you can make money doing something you love, then that’s the best you can hope for.
Agreed on that last point, and never a derail in my thread it is open to all conversations. We are all friends here , and it is a great point. Maybe you should point out to him what I did and tell him that it ain't over if he ain't over. Get back to it. I did from a pretty out of shape person after injury and depression induced 18 to 24 months layoff 2-2.5 years ago and if I hadn't torn my shoulder could have been ready in about 12-15 months. He can do it to. Look at the 60 and up guys at the show, some of them were beasts!
That’s a good point….it’s been about 5 years since I’ve even tried to talk him back to the gym. I’ll try and get him to the gym and on this forum too. Last time I talked to him about it he said I just wanted him there so I wouldn’t be the oldest guy at the gym, he’s 7 years older than me, and then laugh. Actually your log would be totally inspirational to him, and I know he would love this forum .
Do it!
Glad you’re getting to enjoy some good food. I’ve got to admit, I got hungry reading this….may have to go out and get me and my wife a Cinnabon now..
