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Huge improvement in the most muscular pose, and like you said the chest fat won’t be an issue. The high levels of mast will also shrink tissue over time, and there’s of course Ralox if it comes to that if needed.

I hope the vacation is fun! Whenever things seem tough to make the diet work while gone, remember it’s a choice and you have the knowledge and means to make it work! It doesn’t have to be fancy, and some hunger is part of the diet - there’s nowhere you can’t get a bag of dried almonds, pieces of fruit, and RTD protein shakes to try to dial in macros on the road. And ephedrine makes driving long hauls way smoother, besides the hunger curb!
 
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Things trending in the right direction and glad that you're getting excited. If your coach is, you know you're getting there! Try not to street about the anxiety of ups and downs. That's probably just the gear messing with your head too. One other consideration, was just listening to RP strength podcast and they talked about overreaching and over compensation. So basically, you would do two-a-day workouts to make up for the 1/2 a week or so (not sure how long your vacation is) and then just take off the remainder. Body will keep building due to stress and you won't lose anything those few days your out of the gym and eating more.
 
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Huge improvement in the most muscular pose, and like you said the chest fat won’t be an issue. The high levels of mast will also shrink tissue over time, and there’s of course Ralox if it comes to that if needed.

I hope the vacation is fun! Whenever things seem tough to make the diet work while gone, remember it’s a choice and you have the knowledge and means to make it work! It doesn’t have to be fancy, and some hunger is part of the diet - there’s nowhere you can’t get a bag of dried almonds, pieces of fruit, and RTD protein shakes to try to dial in macros on the road. And ephedrine makes driving long hauls way smoother, besides the hunger curb!
Thank you Sir, I have definitely been reminding myself that this is my choice, and I will be a better version of myself when I complete this challenge. My mantra has been, "If you have extreme goals, you are gonna have to do extreme sh|t!"

I think this version of the most muscular is more impressive as well. Not typically stoked on how the lower chest fat looks right now but this is the pose to show off the physique, so I need to display it even if I do still have a little something there come contest time.

Really looking forward to the vacation and seeing my family most of them live in Florida so I will get to see many of them while out there. It really just comes down to manuevering and getting my food in when I can and having enough karbolyn and whey to fill in the gaps. I hadn't thought about ephedrine, I might have to stop by the pharmacy and pick up some bronchaid.
I love this
Yeah, remembering that it is a choice you made is a good way to take back control of something, when you get a little overwhelmed or start pitying yourself for your self chosen situation.
This is something I find myself considering whenever I am sitting in my car right before a hard lower body session, contemplating if I should just turn around and go home.

You don’t have to be here, you get to be here…but nobody can do it for you. And nobody cares, so it’s entirely on you what happens next. That is empowering.
Totally, this is often the self talk I have right before a session I am just too tired to do.
Things trending in the right direction and glad that you're getting excited. If your coach is, you know you're getting there! Try not to street about the anxiety of ups and downs. That's probably just the gear messing with your head too. One other consideration, was just listening to RP strength podcast and they talked about overreaching and over compensation. So basically, you would do two-a-day workouts to make up for the 1/2 a week or so (not sure how long your vacation is) and then just take off the remainder. Body will keep building due to stress and you won't lose anything those few days your out of the gym and eating more.
@Segansational Could you link me to that video please. I agree seeing the scale dance a bit is getting in my head somewhat but the part of me winning that fight is the one that knows I have been on my macros, and my training has been hard and consistent.

I did opt to push my leg session to Friday though, with the troubles I have been dealing with my lower back I decided it would just be a bad idea to train and then have it sore and aching as I went into an 18 hour trip. It typically gets sore for 2-3 days after my leg session now so I decided to move the day until we have made it to Florida. So I can train, and recover before making the trip back. I am nailing down the location of the gym I found near the airbnb, so I can get by there for my training in the mornings.

I had to tell family members that this visit will e different in that I will have to make training a major priority. So there may be times they want to spend together that I am simply not able to spend with them if I haven't trained yet. My plan is to stick as close to my training and diet as possible.
 
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I had to tell family members that this visit will e different in that I will have to make training a major priority. So there may be times they want to spend together that I am simply not able to spend with them if I haven't trained yet. My plan is to stick as close to my training and diet as possible.
I miss being in that headspace at times. I remember being at mexican restaurants with family, ordering a salad with extra chicken and not eating the chips and my sister in law being concerned, asking me if I'm comfortable in my skin etc lololol, I was like yes I am because I'm fukin' ripped and I'm not giving up my veiny ass abs for a burrito 😂😂
 
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I miss being in that headspace at times. I remember being at mexican restaurants with family, ordering a salad with extra chicken and not eating the chips and my sister in law being concerned, asking me if I'm comfortable in my skin etc lololol, I was like yes I am because I'm fukin' ripped and I'm not giving up my veiny ass abs for a burrito 😂😂
Right, and the leaner I get the more that just solidifies things for me.

Weight this morning for my check in was 211.8 my pics came out unfocused but I think I can still see some progress there. Last Wednesday I was 213 and some change, this weekend 211.6, I have been going up after that recently so the fact I haven't really gone up much I think that definitely shows some progress being made.

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I feel like your MM is getting more symmetrical in every practice. from a stage standpoint is it better to elongate the biceps in that pose? you're presenting wider and wider IMO

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I am not sure. I will be working with a posing coach when I get back for more pointers.

Also, great news... sitting on side of road wth what seems to be a dead battery or I hope so anyway.
 
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I am not sure. I will be working with a posing coach when I get back for more pointers.

Also, great news... sitting on side of road wth what seems to be a dead battery or I hope so anyway.
If a new battery fixes it, but then it dies again shortly, you have a dead alternator that’s no longer charging the battery.
 
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you should probably get an electric car, they have huge batteries. I bet they never die.
 
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If a new battery fixes it, but then it dies again shortly, you have a dead alternator that’s no longer charging the battery.
Thanks yeah I am 99% is just the battery. It was 3 years old. I thought it was about 2.We got a jump and made it to the hotel and had just enough juice to start to take me to autozone, they said it was dead too. Been running and starting good since.

We are just way behind on time now. Trying to decide if it is worth trying to train at 1AM at PF 15 minutes from the house, or combining sessions with just the meat and potatoes for each muscle group tomorrow. I think lack of sleep would be worse than just getting in lower volume for these muscle group this week.


you should probably get an electric car, they have huge batteries. I bet they never die.
Lol, but talk about a more costly replacement!
 
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you should probably get an electric car, they have huge batteries. I bet they never die.
Not a Texas problem, but I train with 2 guys who have worked for EV companies (Tesla and Rivian) and serious cold just destroys them. The guy said when he was in Chicago people brought Teslas in all the time in winter that the deep cold had taken them out. $9,000 for new batteries on regular models, and $14,000 for sport models.
 
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Not a Texas problem, but I train with 2 guys who have worked for EV companies (Tesla and Rivian) and serious cold just destroys them. The guy said when he was in Chicago people brought Teslas in all the time in winter that the deep cold had taken them out. $9,000 for new batteries on regular models, and $14,000 for sport models.
No doubt!

Had a great time at he wedding, and reception. The Bride and Groom looked amazing and we're so happy to start a life together. Really proud of my nephew!

Coach was stoked with my update pics. I was 210 on the dot Saturday morning for my checking but on a different scale. Looks about right. Coach told me to lower my arm and bring it forward some on my side chest. Makes my chest look bigger not being all stretched out. I also picked up my rib cage in my FDB to increase chest size, it flattens out my abs some but just trying different ways of posing.

The trip has been a crazy challenge with prep, and tiring but I am making it work for sure. So happy I brought powders and had Sage prep food for the week instead of shopping and cooking here. It was worth the space the cooler took up for sure.

Here are some of the pics from my check-in.

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I have to post one at a time for some reason it messes up with more.
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Side Chest let me know which side looks better and if you can tell which side the biceps was moved on by looking. I am indecisive if the surgery made it look better because in some ways I think it did that I will explain after.
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$9,000 for new batteries on regular models, and $14,000 for sport models.
that actually sounds cheaper than the numbers I heard. they were talking on the news a few weeks ago about people driving their Teslas in to the dealership, finding out they needed a new battery, and just leaving their cars at the dealer cause they didn't want them back at the price required for a new battery.

I am indecisive if the surgery made it look better because in some ways I think it did that I will explain after.
I'm curious to hear your thoughts on this. Not the same thing, but because of how my wife's surgery went she feels self conscious on one side because if she flexes she gets a bit of a ripple. which obviously is something I want more than her, but it's not something most anyone else would even notice. In fact when we were at that toptional pool a few weeks ago I saw some of the older ladies got the same little muscular flex in their chest and it was something I never would have noticed before if she hadn't made a big enough deal about it to ask her surgeon if it was normal.
 
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Not a Texas problem, but I train with 2 guys who have worked for EV companies (Tesla and Rivian) and serious cold just destroys them. The guy said when he was in Chicago people brought Teslas in all the time in winter that the deep cold had taken them out. $9,000 for new batteries on regular models, and $14,000 for sport models.
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I don’t think I have a favorite side chest, nor can I tell which side had the tendon moved, but you are more relaxed in side chest #1 photo so there is that too.

This is probably the best overall package I’ve ever seen from you, this current combination of size vs bodyfat, and also the muscular density. Between getting leaner and the mast coming up, tissue is looking much more solid. Keep doing the work!
 
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that actually sounds cheaper than the numbers I heard. they were talking on the news a few weeks ago about people driving their Teslas in to the dealership, finding out they needed a new battery, and just leaving their cars at the dealer cause they didn't want them back at the price required for a new battery.



I'm curious to hear your thoughts on this. Not the same thing, but because of how my wife's surgery went she feels self conscious on one side because if she flexes she gets a bit of a ripple. which obviously is something I want more than her, but it's not something most anyone else would even notice. In fact when we were at that toptional pool a few weeks ago I saw some of the older ladies got the same little muscular flex in their chest and it was something I never would have noticed before if she hadn't made a big enough deal about it to ask her surgeon if it was normal.
I actually think it improved my biceps peak a little on that side. It is my dominant hand and the biceps was a little thicker up top by my shoulder before. It being moved pulled that in a little more at the top so it looks like it has more peak now. Also it makes the delt and biceps separation more visible. It will lose a little fullness there when triceps is extended but again just seems to highlight the front delt and biceps separation in most cases.
Catching back up in here. Looking legit all hell Kleen! That stack is going to shine in the coming weeks.
Thanks! Yeah, I think we may bump this coming week.
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I don’t think I have a favorite side chest, nor can I tell which side had the tendon moved, but you are more relaxed in side chest #1 photo so there is that too.

This is probably the best overall package I’ve ever seen from you, this current combination of size vs bodyfat, and also the muscular density. Between getting leaner and the mast coming up, tissue is looking much more solid. Keep doing the work!
Awesome thanks, yeah the 2nd one is the side that had the biceps removed. I actually had the timing on the 2nd one to blow everything out and really squeeze my waist in and raise my chest more. However, I was holding it for a second and it was getting hard to hold. Weeks of practice and dropping more visceral fat should make that a lot easier and relaxed looking. As you can see in the first although I am more relaxed looking my waist is noticeably thicker.

Thanks for the compliments, I agree seeing a different quality and density while retaining fullness. Minor changes in posing showing some good promise too.

Once it arrives at the house next week I will be starting clen @ 20/40mcg eod, and kind of expect a bump in mast this next week or two. Should help with some fat loss and muscle preservation.
 
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I actually think it improved my biceps peak a little on that side. It is my dominant hand and the biceps was a little thicker up top by my shoulder before. It being moved pulled that in a little more at the top so it looks like it has more peak now. Also it makes the delt and biceps separation more visible. It will lose a little fullness there when triceps is extended but again just seems to highlight the front delt and biceps separation in most cases.
Awesome thanks, yeah the 2nd one is the side that had the biceps removed. I actually had the timing on the 2nd one to blow everything out and really squeeze my waist in and raise my chest more
I think it shows a bit more the MM pose than in the side chest, but that could be the posing itself. the surgery definitely didn't do any harm to how you show though, that's for damn sure. I agree with Hyde, you're bringing it for sure! I'm excited to see what kinda tweaks you and the coach make on poses because things are looking good!
 
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I actually think it improved my biceps peak a little on that side. It is my dominant hand and the biceps was a little thicker up top by my shoulder before. It being moved pulled that in a little more at the top so it looks like it has more peak now. Also it makes the delt and biceps separation more visible. It will lose a little fullness there when triceps is extended but again just seems to highlight the front delt and biceps separation in most cases.Thanks! Yeah, I think we may bump this coming week.Yeah, as in dollars!Awesome thanks, yeah the 2nd one is the side that had the biceps removed. I actually had the timing on the 2nd one to blow everything out and really squeeze my waist in and raise my chest more. However, I was holding it for a second and it was getting hard to hold. Weeks of practice and dropping more visceral fat should make that a lot easier and relaxed looking. As you can see in the first although I am more relaxed looking my waist is noticeably thicker.

Thanks for the compliments, I agree seeing a different quality and density while retaining fullness. Minor changes in posing showing some good promise too.

Once it arrives at the house next week I will be starting clen @ 20/40mcg eod, and kind of expect a bump in mast this next week or two. Should help with some fat loss and muscle preservation.
Definitely looking jacked, and ready to bring this baby down the home stretch.💪😎
 
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I think it shows a bit more the MM pose than in the side chest, but that could be the posing itself. the surgery definitely didn't do any harm to how you show though, that's for damn sure. I agree with Hyde, you're bringing it for sure! I'm excited to see what kinda tweaks you and the coach make on poses because things are looking good!
Agreed I can see it in the MM more, I think it is fine either way. Not a big detraction at all. Thanks!
Definitely looking jacked, and ready to bring this baby down the home stretch.
Oh yeah and after this trip the prep should feel easier for a bit since it has created such a challenging schedule. The normal more settled in prep at home will feel easier and more convenient.
 
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I forgot to mention coach was happy with my progress and told me I could eat a free meal of steak potatoes of some sort, a salad and a dessert. Should fill things up and stoke metabolism a little.

Here are some pics from the trip so far.
 

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I forgot to mention coach was happy with my progress and told me I could eat a free meal of steak potatoes of some sort, a salad and a dessert. Should fill things up and stoke metabolism a little.

Here are some pics from the trip so far.
IDK why but this is my favorite pose you've posted so far. could be the lighting/darker skin but **** is really coming together!

The lovely wife and I on the beach the first night. View attachment 242896
that's a great picture of you guys, your smile looks like you just won the lotto with that girl on your arm!
does she like having the big muscle man husband?
 
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Yeah definitely, she likes me big or bigger than average. She says she doesn't really have a preference on how lean I am as long as I am happy with that but she loves me being bigger than most people proportion wise. Me personally, I prefer to be lean and built. ;)
 
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Me personally, I prefer to be lean and built.
haha I had to read that a couple times. I was like, uh... yes? me too? ha

She says she doesn't really have a preference on how lean I am as long as I am happy with that but she loves me being bigger than most people proportion wise.
My wife is the same way. I've noticed she's really been practicing complimenting. the first couple times we almost got in an argument when she said she wanted to take her young buff husband to some event to show off. I was like whatever. 😂😂😂

but she kept at it and I'm learning it's a real compliment, she just doesn't know how to flirt well 😂😂😂
 
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haha I had to read that a couple times. I was like, uh... yes? me too? ha



My wife is the same way. I've noticed she's really been practicing complimenting. the first couple times we almost got in an argument when she said she wanted to take her young buff husband to some event to show off. I was like whatever.

but she kept at it and I'm learning it's a real compliment, she just doesn't know how to flirt well
Yeah, it is nice to know they take pride in our appearance. I told my wife once just because you think I know you find me attractive it sure is nice to hear it said. She got a lot better after that. She just told me she assumed I knew. Compliments from her mean more than anyone else. Right now my coach is a good 2nd. Lol
That’s a great picture….looks like you guys are having a blast.
Thanks, yeah we are Loving it. No set schedule other than my workouts and whatever we feel like doing. Probably going to rent a slingshot or fun golf cart or something for the day tomorrow. Maybe some para-sailing, and jet skis too. We will see. We will be packing up tomorrow night and leaving pretty early Saturday after I do cardio. I need to train when I get home, which is an 11-12 hour drive with stops. I may put the lift off until Sunday then pick up chest Monday to get back on schedule. Worst case I do some long range partials if the triceps aren't ready.

Here is a pic of my free meal. T Bone about 32 oz I ate all of the good meat but left out the fatty bits at the top. Then shared a small price of apple caramel pie, and some bread pudding with the wife to cap it off.
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Let's try again...
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Thanks for that. Was in bed, now off to kitchen. Even after just brushing my teefs. No joke.
Haha, good stuff!
Awesome pics!

Did you enjoy being the classic bodybuilder at the beach?
It's nice wouldn't mind being leaner. Honestly though I notice more dude's paying attention than women. Lots of dudes commenting and the crazy thing is several people look at me like I made bad life choices as they waddle by breathing like Darth Vader.
 
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Looks like a great vacation and some much needed time away, even if it’s a little more hectic with prep and all. Looking huge and really dialing in!!
 

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