Joshlm69
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In a few weeks I’m going to be adding something to my M-Test + Prime stack. I was thinking AnabolicXT but maybe Anacyclus is a better choice
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In a few weeks I’m going to be adding something to my M-Test + Prime stack. I was thinking AnabolicXT but maybe Anacyclus is a better choice
Jeremy1
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If you add Anacyclus, let us know how it goes. That stuff has piqued my interest as well. It is kind of annoying how many cool products this company has. I will say that AXT, for me at least, was really something special. Can't go wrong with that decision either imo.
GQdaLEGEND
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i dont think u can go wrong with either or .. i think anabolicXT would be better for u .. u already have Mtest to cover libdio/vatility/sexual health
where as anabolic XT adding to ure stack will give u more lean/fat loss/ anti aging benefits along with gym gains u already have
again mtest & anacyclus can be stacked just think for u other route is better imo .. but regardless u will enjoy an addition of any of the 2
Dustin07
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funny I was just typing out in another thread that I see more overall strength gains and PRs from anabolic xt and anabolic effect than I do even from epi.
GQdaLEGEND
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totally agree .. best thing is you can stack em all or plan it out and bridge through your stacks
this new anabolic builder coming out .. i thnk you will truly enjoy too i have spoken too much leaves thread
Joshlm69
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I’m looking at it from a cost point of view. In the UK AXT is double the price of Anacyclus. Already running prime & m-test year round, so would be great to respond to Anacyclus well & then just run those 3 year round & cost will be reasonable
GQdaLEGEND
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totally understand and you will enjoy addition of anacyclus like resolve stated.
back in the days prime & anacyclus were very popular for good reasons.
mechka_grizli
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I want to point out something. The original prime was 1600mg of T. Aquaticus & Chebulic Myrobalan in a prop blend. 3200mg daily for 4 caps, 4800mg daily for 6 caps. Most people responded well to 4 caps a day but those who didnt, responded to 6 caps a day.
Because of the prop blend, no one really knows how much TA was in the original Prime. Prime XT is 4800mg daily of straight TA. Thats already more than what was in original Prime. I don’t see why you guys are immediately jumping to 8 and 9 caps a day. You guys could potentially be wasting doses when 6 caps is already the very high end of dosing.
sns8778
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Anacyclus XT is a great product, but Anabolic XT is probably my favorite overall product. It is a little more expensive, but that's because it has 9 premium ingredients all at their efficacious dosages.
I think that you would like either one and its hard to go wrong either way; but for me, if picking one or the other, it would be Anabolic XT.
sns8778
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Anabolic XT and Anabolic Effect is a great stack and my favorite stack overall if just picking 2 products. I'm excited to stack Prime XT with it and to see the results from others that are stacking Prime XT with it.
sns8778
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That's a great stack and I take those as staples as well.
Phosphatidic Acid XT is great for strength gains and I think will be an excellent stack with Prime XT. I could definitely see them having some very complimentary benefits in helping each other work better.
I'm really glad that you're experiencing such great results, whether it be from Prime XT or the combination.
I can understand being scared to post about experiences and results sometimes - its sad that sometimes people can be incredibly negative towards others who are just sharing their results. I'm glad you did share them though as feedback helps other people, and I think your feedback is consistent with what some other people are seeing as well.
I'm excited for you because I think you'll continue to see great gains with that stack.
Joshlm69
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GQdaLEGEND
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I may aswell directly send you my pay cheque at this point Steve. AXT it is
send it here .. i will be your financial distributor to sups/stacks
you take responsibility of diet & gym lol
all jokes aside i hear ya .. im already starting to put aside $50/week for next primeXT & new muscle builder to pick up lol
sns8778
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I may aswell directly send you my pay cheque at this point Steve
I think you're going to love Anabolic XT, especially with the stack you're doing.
CATdiesel76
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This is hard to give an accurate answer because I do conjugate training and I only hit the same exercise once every 6 weeks at best and when I last did these lifts I was coming of a hiatus. But what I can say is that on incline I did 10lbs less than a weight I barely got for one about 6 weeks ago but I did it for 2 sets of two and then a set of 3. My best guess is I could have tripled the weight I worked up to a single for 6-7 weeks back. Back squats with heavy bands I was able to do 15lbs more for a double. If I had to guess over the course of this whole 6 weeks with the different I’ve put about 15lbs on main lifts or getting two sometimes three reps of what I was doing for a single before. For accessories I don’t feel as fatigued as fast and going heavier for more reps.
Once again, this is a combination of multiple products and stringing together a few weeks of consistent training. However, I definitely feel like I have more in the tank since I hit this week on prime and that’s after having been on the other supplements for a minute before. I will certainly keep updating. This is all with a very heavy travel and work schedule. Another thing to note is that I’ve done countless runs of UR since the PA cap days as well as Mstack and AC over the past few months so I have an idea of what to expect from them. This new noticeable boost seems to have started with prime. It’s early but as of now I’d buy again.
But for anyone interested, I had actually talked to my wife about how excited I was over this stack because I’m making better gains adding this to my trt than I have adding low doses of more serious compounds let’s say. I was especially fired up to suggest it to my nephews to keep them from biting at the dark side for awhile
sns8778
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We are hoping 4 to 6 weeks.
I'm really hoping 4 weeks, but there are things that can affect the time periods that a lot of people don't realize, like finished product testing. Let's say the lab is backed up, it could take 10 days instead of 5 to get the test results and then that's an extra week right there.
The next batch is going to be a lot larger than the initial batch, but I still think there's a good chance it will sell out.
azt
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Let me preface by saying I am pretty sure I'm noticing some strength gains from this stuff now in week 3, so not knocking the ingredient or the difficulty in obtaining it. But I was curious what I'm actually ingesting or what tribulus aquaticus actually is, and this was actually quite obscure to find online - because it is apparently an old, rarely used Latin term for what is more commonly known as Trapa natans or water chestnut (not to be confused with water chestnuts you buy at the grocery store), which grows all over and is considered noxious/invasive in some Eastern states of the US, clogging up waterways, etc. Doesn't matter to me as long as it works but I found all this interesting if it's the same plant we're talking about.
sns8778
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What are you actually ingesting? Tribulus Aquaticus.
What is Tribulus Aquaticus? It's an herbal ingredient.
There is nothing obscure about the water chestnut family in general; it is a major category of plant based ingredients and several different ingredients come from that family. I've mentioned myself several times that Tribulus Aquaticus is from the water chestnut family (genus).
Tribulus Aquaticus is an herb that falls into the water chestnut family, but has nothing to do with the water chestnuts that you're talking about in the US.
All herbal ingredients have a genus, or family that they are classified into. A genus, by definition, is a class or group of something. In biology, its a group covering more than one species under the same umbrella. Think about it like this - trying to compare Tribulus Aquaticus to the type of water chestnut you're talking about in your post would be like trying to equate Korean Mistletoe, which is a very good muscle building ingredient, to what we call Mistletoe in the US which can actually be poisonous if ingested - absolutely nothing to do with one another.
Obscure to find online - yes, it is. That's why we stated in the beginning that it is thought to have a wide variety of mechanisms of action, some of which may not yet be fully know or understood.
We've said over and over that this is a product that we made because people asked us to. We have not over hyped it, we have not even hyped it at all - we've been very up front in that the write up is not as science oriented as our normal write ups because the science is not fully known or understood.
Directly from the write up:
Tribulus Aquaticus is rich in natural phytonutrients and has long been sought after for its muscle building potential. It is thought to have a wide variety of mechanisms of action, some of which may not yet be fully known or understood; but is thought to promote gains in lean muscle and strength by working through glucocorticoid suppression and as a calpain inhibitor.
It has also been thought to act as a natural repartitioning agent, increasing the odds that calories are used as energy or delivered into the muscle cells rather than stored in fat cells.
This ingredient was used for years in one of the most popular bodybuilding supplements of all time and has been commonly used to help build lean muscle tissue, to enhance strength and power output, and to help increase muscle protein synthesis to create a more overall anabolic environment in the body.
Many users of this herb also reported noticeable blood sugar benefits, positive sense of well-being, and greatly improved body-composition.
Due to the scarcity of legitimate raw materials, the industry has been without a legitimate Tribulus Aquaticus product for quite some time.
SNS is glad to be able to bring this long sought after ingredient back to the market for all of those that miss it and love it, as well as for those that never had the chance to try it.
I hope that info helps.
GQdaLEGEND
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sold out in our stock as well .. 2nd batch is in works.
GQdaLEGEND
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coming out in tank top at mothers day bbq .. and was asked what u on.
no1 needs to know our prime secret.
no1 needs to know our prime secret.
sns8778
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Anyone is always welcome to pm me with questions.
I've been debating on whether was going to offer preorders on the next batch or not - and I think for now, the way I'm going to go for that is anyone that wants the sale discount from the first batch and to make sure they get however many bottles they want on the coming batch, just pm me and I'll get you taken care of.
Cjg
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How long have u been on the prime?
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Cjg
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What have u noticed in the 2 weeks? I know its still a little early…
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DaveMcNaul
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the second batch is going to be sold out in minutes, don't sleep on it guys
GQdaLEGEND
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6 booked but yes to those who missed out this is a great opportunity dont sleep on it .. this aint a mattress.
thegroosh
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Just finished my 3rd week of prime. I didn't lift at all last week and only two days the week before because of stomach flu. Today was my first time lifting in probably 10 or so days and I've had incredible strength gains. I workout at home and last time I did bench press I used all the plates I have and hit about 8 reps a set, today I was doing 16+ reps even on the 5th set!
I am ordering some more plates right now
I am ordering some more plates right now
thescience
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I started Prime XT on the evening of 4.18.24. Zero benefits observed between then at 5.13.24. Today was a totally different story:
seated upright dumbell press went from 60lbs x 10 to 85lbs x 10
military press: 150lbs x10 to 170lbs x 10
not sure what to call it, but it's a straight wrist dumbell one armed military press: 45 lbs x 10 to 70lbs x 10
i tried to chain a 25lb plate for pullups but it kept hitting an adjunct lift device. i will be able to try it on different unit next week
curlbar 90lbs x 10 to 100lbs x 10
i had recently added some supplements that may be helping, but there are also ample reasons why i shouldnt be getting stronger (such as having lost about 4-5lbs in the past few weeks with no change in diet.) please refer to the log ill be posting as there are alot of moving parts
seated upright dumbell press went from 60lbs x 10 to 85lbs x 10
military press: 150lbs x10 to 170lbs x 10
not sure what to call it, but it's a straight wrist dumbell one armed military press: 45 lbs x 10 to 70lbs x 10
i tried to chain a 25lb plate for pullups but it kept hitting an adjunct lift device. i will be able to try it on different unit next week
curlbar 90lbs x 10 to 100lbs x 10
i had recently added some supplements that may be helping, but there are also ample reasons why i shouldnt be getting stronger (such as having lost about 4-5lbs in the past few weeks with no change in diet.) please refer to the log ill be posting as there are alot of moving parts
AndrewMcD
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Wow. 60lbs to 85lb jump on dumbbell press is INSANE.
thescience
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oh snap you ran out of weights! I was like, why is this guy banging out 16 reps sets?. I actually tried high reps once, and found it does have a leaning effect. while im sure it was probably, at least initially, turning more fat into muscle per square inch of flesh in some technical sense, it made my arms look smaller on account of that and the fact that it wasnt possible for me to do as much weight with high reps.. it was more like cardio for the arms to me. there are studies that say a person can grow just as much muscle compensating with tons of reps at a lighter weight, im just not sure its the kind of muscle that has size too it and i found the whole thing to be less effective toward looking good. i applied the heavy weight/less rep strategy to abs and it has worked better than any other training. definitely dont bother with situps anymoreJust finished my 3rd week of prime. I didn't lift at all last week and only two days the week before because of stomach flu. Today was my first time lifting in probably 10 or so days and I've had incredible strength gains. I workout at home and last time I did bench press I used all the plates I have and hit about 8 reps a set, today I was doing 16+ reps even on the 5th set!
I am ordering some more plates right now
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JohnnieFreeze
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I sometimes do the lighter weight/higher rep stuff to give my joints a break, but I don't like them. The workouts take longer, and fatiguing the muscle is slow and painful.
thescience
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yeah i mean for a guy who has lifted 20 years, i come up with nada for most supplements i take. seeing the bump in strength exercise after excercise today was incredulous, yet as someone familiar with the ingredient im also thinking it's about Godd*mn time this kicked in. definitely had alittle doubt my age or condition could have resulted in a failure to respond, but when everything you touch is going up, you know it's time to post
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thescience
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i had speculated that joint pain could stop me from realizing strength gains this time around. i n get hit with a blast of pain following military presses every time, but it didnt happen today at 20 lbs more
malin
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With all those extra 25s and 45s being put on the bars ( and that just after few weeks and every product starting to shine in the second month and only gets better) we will have everyone and their one legged cousin ATG 600 lb in no time..... I'm afraid that American Gym Owners Association (AGOA) will ban Prime in near future.... Ain't nobody buying all that extra hardware...
thescience
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Tribulus aquaticus has been around a long time. As i recall, the strength did not continue to rise after the bump (at least for someone like me who isnt constantly doing the work to improve strength). That said, i dont have clear memory if there were any increases down the road after the corresponding muscle showed up; there certainly wasnt a second wave of big jumps across the board. I remember my bench was the same until Pink Magic came out
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CATdiesel76
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I have to come in and say my strength gains are definitely not in my head. A few weeks back I did 315 with 40lbs of chain on a football bar bench for 3 and yesterday did it for 5.
Did a machine oriented back workout to give my spine so deloading and was repping the whole stack where I was like 3 pins shy.
Another weird thing, I had some nagging knee and bicep/elbow pain that is gone. Since starting prime they do not bother me. Anyone else ever have joint relief from this?
Also, noticeable increase in vascularity. Veins are popping out all over my shoulders, chest, and triceps. I’m vascular but this is next level
Did a machine oriented back workout to give my spine so deloading and was repping the whole stack where I was like 3 pins shy.
Another weird thing, I had some nagging knee and bicep/elbow pain that is gone. Since starting prime they do not bother me. Anyone else ever have joint relief from this?
Also, noticeable increase in vascularity. Veins are popping out all over my shoulders, chest, and triceps. I’m vascular but this is next level
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Jeremy1
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This will be a nice benefit if indeed the Prime is the reason. While this is totally different than Tribulus Terrestris, I swear when I take a product with it in, my joints feel better. Will be pretty cool if Aquaticus makes the joints feel better as well.
CATdiesel76
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So another thing I thought about was that I had started taking Nordic naturals ultimate omega. I’ve been taking their algae oil. I stopped taking most fish oil for a long time because I wondered if it was rancid by the time it got to me and did more harm than good. But decided to try it again and probably started 5 days ago. However, I’ve never really noticed a difference from fish oil joint wise. But as I’m older and haven’t taken it for a minute maybe it was the reason
sns8778
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I use Algal oil myself and I do like it, but I don't think you'd notice a difference with it that quickly unless mega dosing it.
I use the Nature's Way Algal oil.
CATdiesel76
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Yeah I’ve been on the algae oil for months and just added the ultimate omega on top but I agree. I’ve never really gotten relief in the past from them. Not sure what is causing the joint relief but it’s noticeable and I don’t think it’s due to any lifestyle changes. Training has been the same too
thescience
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are you saying the algae oil got around that issue? im someone who gets exhausted, grouchy and achey from fish oil and there doesnt seem to be an official explanation for that. amazon reviews however reveal there are plenty of people it happens too. explanations include the dip in cholesterol, rancid oil or lipid peroxidation from the supplement causing a chain reaction with other oils in the body, lowered blood pressure, genetic difficulty processing omega 3's, and alterations in neurotransmitters. ive seen reviewers claim one brand doesnt cause it compared to another, but there was a drastically lower potency on the brand they liked. others stated they checked their blood pressure and it wasnt low, they just felt bad. the cholesterol didnt make sense to me because mine runs toward the top of the range and i tool the dha with high cholesterol meals.
jointwise on prime, there are definitely some areas where im still held up, such as the elbow affecting my curls and other areas where i blew past the limitation. i was thinking that if weight feels lighter, than the same weight wont bother the joint as much. or maybe if there is more growth in the area, there is less strain on joints or energy made more available. in my case, heavier didnt bother my shoulder with military presses, but curls continue to hurt the elbow at any weight
one thing i just got into yesterday is the idea that extreme dieters can have alot of joint pain because their energy is low and you have a group of people on here who swear by using pregnenolone to address joint issues
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mase1
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Unfortunately I am also one of those guys that goes back and forth trying fish oil hoping for the joint inflammation relief but have never had that benefit that I felt. My blood work is always good and the same whether taking it or not. Not doubting the fish oil but scientifically it hasn't shown anything for me.
Hyde
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Pregnenolone is a neurosteroid. Steroidogenesis is based partially on cholesterol intake to synthesize it - you eat less fats, less raws to make hormones.
Preg mediates collagen synthesis and water retention diversely via the ER and PR through downstream conversion to both estrogens and some progesterone.
I can take 10mg of oral preg and feel it in my gyno slightly less than 8 hours later, same for my joint comfort. Can’t take much, but a little can go a long way - it’s cheap and powerful. Helps give extra energy, drive and focus.
sns8778
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Fish oil makes me feel 'off' and I've never gotten any feel type benefits from it.
I take Algal oil now - more for overall health than anything. I have tried mega dosing it and could feel a cognitive benefit, but it wasn't worth the money being spent to do it. Like at 4 per day, I was able to tell a difference, but I could tell a much bigger difference with just 1 Sabroxy XT cap. So I just went back to my normal daily dosing for preventative health with the Algal oil.
sns8778
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Xtreme Performance Gels will have Pregnenolone Gel launching next week.
It will be 25 mg. per ml/100 servings per bottle.
I'm curious to try it for myself because I cannot take oral Pregnenolone - I get none of the good benefits from it and it just makes me more irritable. In theory, that should be negated with the topical, so I'm curious to try it.
I'll probably start off with half a pump, basically not pressing it all the way down, for the first week to gauge how I like it.