Thanks. I would be open to it if there was enough demand for it, but honestly there doesn't seem to be much. At one time, there were a few companies that made one and most stopped bc of lack of sales on it.@sns8778 I second the vote for a stand alone Na-RALA. I currently purchase Allmax’s Na-RALA but if SNS came out with one I would buy Steve’s product. Allmax’s product lists it as 150 mg of R-Alpha Lipoic Acid (Yielding 125 mg of Active R (+) ALA Isomer). I add 1 capsule along with my GDA and I feel it makes a difference.
One important note is that Allmax's is R-ALA, not Na-R-ALA. Na-R-ALA is significantly more expensive.
We do use 100 mg. Na-R-ALA along with 150 mg. regular ALA in GlycoPhase.
Thank you. I love GlycoPhase myself. It is a great GDA formula and contains ingredients that help target improved insulin sensitivity and other benefits from a variety of angles.Have you tried SNS Glycophase??? 100mg of Na-R-ALA in that GDA combo, along with 150mg ALA, 500mg Berberine HCL, and more:
GlycoPhase | Serious Nutrition Solutions
GlycoPhase is a cutting edge GDA (Glucose Disposal Agent) that is designed to help harness the power of insulin to help promote lean muscle, dramatic pumps, and fat loss.seriousnutritionsolutions.com
It’s a very capable GDA, having used bottles of it personally.
Na-R-ALA has better oral bioavailability than regular Alpha Lipoic Acid, but to say that regular ALA is ineffective is not true. There are hundreds, if not thousands, of clinical studies done on regular Alpha Lipoic Acid. I do feel that Na-R-ALA is better, but there's way too much research and evidence on regular ALA having positive benefits to say it isn't effective at all.ALA is quite ineffective, as it contains the S-isomer. R-ALA is far more stable, K-RLA is even more stable, and Na-RALA is the most stable and bioavailable.
ALA is actually borderline useless, as it contains 50-50 S- and R+ isomers. The research is quite clear on ALA being exorbitantly more ineffective than R-ALA and other forms. In fact, some studies even show that ALA and the S-isomer do more "harm" than good, in the context for what someone is trying to solve.
ALA is probably 1/10th the price, and most consumers don't know the difference. So, most manufacturers use ALA over R-ALA and especially over Na-RALA.
Na-RALA is most optimally dosed between 300-600mg, so there is a legitimate need for it independently, if enough people want it, and of course, if Steve sees the need.
Na-R-ALA is the better form, but it's exponentially more expensive by comparison.
I have looked into this before, and the issue with an Na-R-ALA supplement at the 300 mg. to 600 mg. dosing range is that no one would want to pay that price for one - including me, because at the price it would cost, people could buy full on formulas like GlycoPhase.
I definitely agree that GlycoPhase is a great GDA and seems like it may meet his needs very well.I understand that it doesn’t meet your specific needs, which is why I didn’t quote you, but he said he feels a difference adding 125mg R-ALA to his GDA of choice.
So depending on cost, taking a serving of Glycophase could be a better and/or cheaper all-in-one GDA option for him. The thing he desires might already exist for him.
I'm all for discussing Na-R-ALA but not at the expense of bashing Alpha Lipoic Acid.Totally understand. I was just trying to expand, for people who may not understand the difference. I'm not sure how many people would purchase ALA or products with ALA if they understood the difference(s).
In fact, if it were up to me, I would omit ALA entirely in GlycoPhase, but that's just my view and my personal opinion.
You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but there are literally hundreds of studies on regular Alpha Lipoic Acid for every study done on Na-R-ALA.
I do agree that Na-R-ALA is the better form, but that doesn't mean that regular ALA is bad.
And also, as far as the GlycoPhase formula goes, we use both for several reasons - 1) A lot of the research is on Alpha Lipoic Acid itself, and 2) Using ALA and Na-R-ALA together allows us to provide a higher dosage total, and 3) Na-R-ALA doesn't need to be dosed super high when combining it with other GDA's.