Excelsior pre workout

[Bernardhopkin]

Would drinking a Red Bull before work surprise you? Logically, what is the difference between an “energy drink “ and a PWO? They are both just combinations of different stimulants and energy boosters

I often wonder if I got to a police road check and breathalyzed would I fail for taking thermal spark , hydrazine or any other pre workout etc

 

[KvanH]

I often wonder if I got to a police road check and breathalyzed would I fail for taking thermal spark , hydrazine or any other pre workout etc

People used to get false flagged by the swab test from DMAA, when it hit the PWO market, so I think you could fail the preliminary/road test with taking Excelsior or other exotic stim supps.

 

[cfisher52986]

Has anyone else noticed that during the first couple hours after taking a dose of Excelsior (usually 1.5 scoops for me), you subconsciously clench your jaws? After I'm done running, my jaw muscles will almost be sore, almost as if I'd been chewing a massive wad of bubblegum for the last few hours.

Yea I notice that too. I don’t do 1.5 scoops though, I usually do around 4 grams, but I do kinda grind my teeth, move my jaw unconsciously. Also get cotton mouth, and piss like a racehorse! That’s why I stick to lower doses but occasionally I take a lil extra

 

[Supercellular]

I’m gonna ask them about this. I don’t see anything you’ve done there in that screenshot that’s off!

QUOTE="zufir, post: 6783093, member: 305933"]
Thank you sir
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They said it wasn’t anything to do with tarnishing the brand or bad feedback for them/doomsday but mentioned a few things like “he’s never made the order he claimed on that screenshot as a) he was already banned in July and b) nobody was allowed to order more than one sample of the initial batch of doomsday hardcore. If he’s got evidence to prove he placed the order he claimed we’d not only unban him we’d send him the order he’s wanting free of charge.”

 

[SpicedCider]

Yea I notice that too. I don’t do 1.5 scoops though, I usually do around 4 grams, but I do kinda grind my teeth, move my jaw unconsciously. Also get cotton mouth, and piss like a racehorse! That’s why I stick to lower doses but occasionally I take a lil extra

I completely forgot to mention it before, but I've also noticed that "good" batches of Excelsior give me the intense urge to go pee-pee about an hour after taking a serving (usually just under 1.5 scoops for me). Have noticed the cotton mouth effect as well.

..... Random question, but are there any forum members based in Russia who would be willing to purchase a tub of SCL F-Bomb preworkout and ship it to the USA? Of course, I'll pay the cost of the product as well as shipping fees, and I'll also throw in an extra fee for the service itself

 

[tstrogo93]

Has anyone else noticed that during the first couple hours after taking a dose of Excelsior (usually 1.5 scoops for me), you subconsciously clench your jaws? After I'm done running, my jaw muscles will almost be sore, almost as if I'd been chewing a massive wad of bubblegum for the last few hours.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruxism

 

[zufir]

QUOTE="zufir, post: 6783093, member: 305933"]
Thank you sir

They said it wasn’t anything to do with tarnishing the brand or bad feedback for them/doomsday but mentioned a few things like “he’s never made the order he claimed on that screenshot as a) he was already banned in July and b) nobody was allowed to order more than one sample of the initial batch of doomsday hardcore. If he’s got evidence to prove he placed the order he claimed we’d not only unban him we’d send him the order he’s wanting free of charge.”
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Well yes I tried to place an order after that post but received the payment error message and didn't bother trying again thinking it was an issue with my credit card. I attempted another order for thermal spark and excelsior a week ago and received the same error and that's when I emailed PN asking what's going on with my account and they provided the explanation in my screenshot.

 

[SpicedCider]

They said it wasn’t anything to do with tarnishing the brand or bad feedback for them/doomsday but mentioned a few things like “he’s never made the order he claimed on that screenshot as a) he was already banned in July and b) nobody was allowed to order more than one sample of the initial batch of doomsday hardcore. If he’s got evidence to prove he placed the order he claimed we’d not only unban him we’d send him the order he’s wanting free of charge.”

Well yes I tried to place an order after that post but received the payment error message and didn't bother trying again thinking it was an issue with my credit card. I attempted another order for thermal spark and excelsior a week ago and received the same error and that's when I emailed PN asking what's going on with my account and they provided the explanation in my screenshot.


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Have you tried placing an order without being logged in to your customer account?

 

[zufir]

Well yes I tried to place an order after that post but received the payment error message and didn't bother trying again thinking it was an issue with my credit card. I attempted another order for thermal spark and excelsior a week ago and received the same error and that's when I emailed PN asking what's going on with my account and they provided the explanation in my screenshot.

Have you tried placing an order without being logged in to your customer account?
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I'll give it a shot

 

[Supercellular]

They said it wasn’t anything to do with tarnishing the brand or bad feedback for them/doomsday but mentioned a few things like “he’s never made the order he claimed on that screenshot as a) he was already banned in July and b) nobody was allowed to order more than one sample of the initial batch of doomsday hardcore. If he’s got evidence to prove he placed the order he claimed we’d not only unban him we’d send him the order he’s wanting free of charge.”

Well yes I tried to place an order after that post but received the payment error message and didn't bother trying again thinking it was an issue with my credit card. I attempted another order for thermal spark and excelsior a week ago and received the same error and that's when I emailed PN asking what's going on with my account and they provided the explanation in my screenshot.


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What they are saying is you made a post saying you’d ordered an excelsior plus two samples of doomsday hardcore but they are saying you are making it up and if you’ve got evidence to show you have placed an order of excelsior plus two DDH samples then if you prove it they’ll ship you whatever you’re wanting free.

I think they believe you’re a troll tbh and this board is full of guys working for brands secretly etc

 

[tstrogo93]

I completely forgot to mention it before, but I've also noticed that "good" batches of Excelsior give me the intense urge to go pee-pee about an hour after taking a serving (usually just under 1.5 scoops for me). Have noticed the cotton mouth effect as well.

..... Random question, but are there any forum members based in Russia who would be willing to purchase a tub of SCL F-Bomb preworkout and ship it to the USA? Of course, I'll pay the cost of the product as well as shipping fees, and I'll also throw in an extra fee for the service itself

I like this pre but tbh its nothing like excelsior...only lasts a couple of hours and imo doesnt compare to how focused and clean the energy is off of the 11/25 from eva....

smash is also better than this pre

 

[tstrogo93]

I like this pre but tbh its nothing like excelsior...only lasts a couple of hours and imo doesnt compare to how focused and clean the energy is off of the 11/25 from eva....

smash is also better than this pre

better than F-bomb that is

 

[zufir]

Well yes I tried to place an order after that post but received the payment error message and didn't bother trying again thinking it was an issue with my credit card. I attempted another order for thermal spark and excelsior a week ago and received the same error and that's when I emailed PN asking what's going on with my account and they provided the explanation in my screenshot.

What they are saying is you made a post saying you’d ordered an excelsior plus two samples of doomsday hardcore but they are saying you are making it up and if you’ve got evidence to show you have placed an order of excelsior plus two DDH samples then if you prove it they’ll ship you whatever you’re wanting free.

I think they believe you’re a troll tbh and this board is full of guys working for brands secretly etc
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I am saying I tried to do my order right after my post but that’s when I realized I was banned.

Anyhow, if their issue is that I am a troll, they can clearly see I made multiple orders including my order of the first version of Doomsday.

 

[Frode Falch]

Would drinking a Red Bull before work surprise you? Logically, what is the difference between an “energy drink “ and a PWO? They are both just combinations of different stimulants and energy boosters

Black coffee, a strong expresso, or a little can of Redbull before work, dont really compare to the most intensive and strong PWO out there.

So yes. Drinking Excelsior before going to work, do indeed surprise me.

Stay safe and hard.

 

[Bernardhopkin]

That doomsday is some appetite suppressant, I took a rounded scoop earlier before training . It worked very well
Went out for a meal with the wife after it and essentially had to force the food down . Also it’s weird , it feels like the food was bland and tasteless in comparison to normal. I know the food is good as we eat there regularly..
It also gives a good dose of stim dick I’ve really changed my mind on this . I think it’s really good for training anyway

Won’t take it late again ,
hydrazine my other favourite I don’t get that feeling at all . Mind you the original white hydrazine had the opposite effect in terms of libido thankfully

 

[zufir]

That doomsday is some appetite suppressant, I took a rounded scoop earlier before training . It worked very well
Went out for a meal with the wife after it and essentially had to force the food down . Also it’s weird , it feels like the food was bland and tasteless in comparison to normal. I know the food is good as we eat there regularly..
It also gives a good dose of stim dick I’ve really changed my mind on this . I think it’s really good for training anyway

Won’t take it late again ,
hydrazine my other favourite I don’t get that feeling at all . Mind you the original white hydrazine had the opposite effect in terms of libido thankfully

I swear those are the exact same side effects I get on excelsior...

 

[Bernardhopkin]

I swear those are the exact same side effects I get on excelsior...

It’s really weird , I’m on my 3rd tub , I thought the first was useless initially. Then towards the end of the first tub I started to feel great using it . I did take a stim break and also started shaking the tub . I wonder has it a bit if excelsior in it . Like what’s going on ?

 

[Supercellular]

That doomsday is some appetite suppressant, I took a rounded scoop earlier before training . It worked very well
Went out for a meal with the wife after it and essentially had to force the food down . Also it’s weird , it feels like the food was bland and tasteless in comparison to normal. I know the food is good as we eat there regularly..
It also gives a good dose of stim dick I’ve really changed my mind on this . I think it’s really good for training anyway

Won’t take it late again ,
hydrazine my other favourite I don’t get that feeling at all . Mind you the original white hydrazine had the opposite effect in terms of libido thankfully

haha I bet your wife is throwing it out of your house after that night. You may have changed your mind but I don’t see her changing hers

 

[Bernardhopkin]

haha I bet your wife is throwing it out of your house after that night. You may have changed your mind but I don’t see her changing hers

Ha, doomsday is an apt name so , can only imagine the hardcore version ..

 

[Supercellular]

Ha, doomsday is an apt name so , can only imagine the hardcore version ..

Lol gonna need to petition they change the name to softcore. But if the food didn’t taste good and stim dick showed up I hope you eat something else your good lady would appreciate

 

[CATdiesel76]

My new tub of doomsday is significantly stronger than the old ones. Took 1.25 scoops the other night and was jacked out for about 5 straight hours. I took a week long break off of it but it was no joke. Also, the predator thermal spark is much better than I initially thought. Only difference is I took a week long break from stims other than taking wild thing which is only caffeine a few times preworkourb

 

[Bernardhopkin]

Lol gonna need to petition they change the name to softcore. But if the food didn’t taste good and stim dick showed up I hope you eat something else your good lady would appreciate

Ha, I think stim dick goes hand in hand with doomsday - probably explains why it’s good for training but not for a bit of “how’s your father “
Mind you I kinda knew that in advance so made sure to get the Jenga out and not anything else

 

[Bernardhopkin]

My new tub of doomsday is significantly stronger than the old ones. Took 1.25 scoops the other night and was jacked out for about 5 straight hours. I took a week long break off of it but it was no joke. Also, the predator thermal spark is much better than I initially thought. Only difference is I took a week long break from stims other than taking wild thing which is only caffeine a few times preworkourb

Haven’t tried the pred TS yet - have a few original left too . Hoping it’s like the original white hydrazine ? And yes I wonder if the new doomsday is actually the hardcore ?

 

[Supercellular]

My new tub of doomsday is significantly stronger than the old ones. Took 1.25 scoops the other night and was jacked out for about 5 straight hours. I took a week long break off of it but it was no joke. Also, the predator thermal spark is much better than I initially thought. Only difference is I took a week long break from stims other than taking wild thing which is only caffeine a few times preworkourb

I think they said they have had one batch only so I’m guessing the stim break might be responsible? Saying that, even from the very same tub I swear, depending on how well I’ve slept or what else I’ve taken it feels different.

If you’ve not tried it, try doomsday and then pop 2-3 Phenibut afterwards. That is a combination which seems to potentiate the Phenibut. If I don’t sleep well, I find even 3 scoops of doomsday doesn’t do anything for me, but if I’m rested then even one scoop hits hard. Can’t explain it but it’s very clear cos it’s happened a few times.

 

[zufir]

I think they said they have had one batch only so I’m guessing the stim break might be responsible? Saying that, even from the very same tub I swear, depending on how well I’ve slept or what else I’ve taken it feels different.

If you’ve not tried it, try doomsday and then pop 2-3 Phenibut afterwards. That is a combination which seems to potentiate the Phenibut. If I don’t sleep well, I find even 3 scoops of doomsday doesn’t do anything for me, but if I’m rested then even one scoop hits hard. Can’t explain it but it’s very clear cos it’s happened a few times.

Interesting... I only have somatomax so I have no idea how much phenibut is in a scoop. Maybe I should try getting caps

 

[cfisher52986]

Interesting... I only have somatomax so I have no idea how much phenibut is in a scoop. Maybe I should try getting caps

Just get pure powder it’s a lot cheaper than capsules and easier to dose assuming you have a scale

 

[Justjoe7989]

How's the 7/26 that just came out?

 

[Supercellular]

Interesting... I only have somatomax so I have no idea how much phenibut is in a scoop. Maybe I should try getting caps

Quite a lot, there’s north of 4g there.

 

[BigGame84]

How's the 7/26 that just came out?

Don't think there is any review yet. I could've got a tub but decided to go with what has gotten good reviews from Eva, 11/25.

 

[muscleman]

love that show. I feel you but it’s also the Excelsior thread in particular, which is specifically known to be have been spiked with sketchy stims. So I mean it should be kinda expected I don’t even usually take excelsior to train tbh, I have a huge collection of pres that I find better suited for the gym. I like Excelsior for at work

I just use Excelsior when forget to charge any cosmic board and nee to use crappy fuel instead lol

 

[muscleman]

Has anyone else noticed that during the first couple hours after taking a dose of Excelsior (usually 1.5 scoops for me), you subconsciously clench your jaws? After I'm done running, my jaw muscles will almost be sore, almost as if I'd been chewing a massive wad of bubblegum for the last few hours.

Thats a bear sign at least you got your ghands on something amphetaminelike! And if you wanna avoid the risk of that I think even weak Excelsior's are a bit risky lol

 

[muscleman]

Would drinking a Red Bull before work surprise you? Logically, what is the difference between an “energy drink “ and a PWO? They are both just combinations of different stimulants and energy boosters

Caffeine and meth are both stims that work on the same repceptors and stimulate the same neurotransmitters more or less?
Are C4 and Excelsior the same thing though?

 

[muscleman]

Surely you don’t think exercising is the only thing stimulants are good for ?
I take Excelsior for anything that requires a little boost.. training, working, occasionally if I have a lot of chores..imo all of this equates to doing work, in one form or another
I’m actually going to a rave this month I and I might use a scoop for that as well

I used to take Excelsior for all kinds of functionality only prob though I became disgfunctional when running out.

Rave and dance my favourite exercise. Ask the Great Dancing Spirit to take you. A scoop Excelsior or 2 had mem damcomg 20 hours barefoot over a whole weekend.

 

[muscleman]

We're not training here... Only sipping on that devil's juice. Matter fact I'm currently with @cfisher52986 and I unsealed my finest 06/24 with him

If you came over guys I take out my last hidden 10/22 from the basement and the purple skull cups from the alien planet where they invented Excelsior. I actually also used to train before starting with Excelsior, then I became more of. mad poet and adventurer

 

[muscleman]

Just get pure powder it’s a lot cheaper than capsules and easier to dose assuming you have a scale

You ain’t taking THAT spice are you bud?

Unfortunately most of mankind isn't really ready for that spice.

I would be more worried about some people taking too much somatomax or Excelsior mixed up with impure chems!

There is something with these powders and sweeterners that screw with my alien biochemistry more than pure spice itself.

 

[muscleman]

Quite a lot, there’s north of 4g there.

4g is well above recommended dose for phenibut I think 250mg some caps are at and beginners might feel that but once you go 4g small dose aint gonna do much.
I have been taking phenibut. At first it was great relaxation and deep sleep but effects kinda faded away and I didnt feel the cravings to take higher and higher doses. But Somatic seems to be dosed **** hight with phenibut!

 

[muscleman]

How's the 7/26 that just came out?

It is the most finest freshest herbs dried in in just. the right temperature and then while reading the magic formula the chef at Excelsior stirs them up in a deep deep basement somewhere. Little elves are running around doing the small stuff like putting scoopers in containers etc.
Everyone now and the Santa himself walks by with some extra fairy dust to sprinkle and that is why some tubs are stronger than others.

 

[muscleman]

It’s really weird , I’m on my 3rd tub , I thought the first was useless initially. Then towards the end of the first tub I started to feel great using it . I did take a stim break and also started shaking the tub . I wonder has it a bit if excelsior in it . Like what’s going on ?

well shaking actually makes sense. And if anybody was a decent chemist starting to analyze these white specks might be a start? Not that strong but some of those white specks in new TS is actually the same long lasting ingredient that was the main one in O.G. 2 Thermal gave me bad mood though so mixed with some evil as well so beware I say.

 

[muscleman]

Predator acting like a predator.

If they wanna be really transparent I thought making the name Predator of support junkies wallets or something....lol

 

[muscleman]

People used to get false flagged by the swab test from DMAA, when it hit the PWO market, so I think you could fail the preliminary/road test with taking Excelsior or other exotic stim supps.

That is the amazing thing that they managed such a long lasting compound that usually dont show up on regular drug tests

and is not that close to traditional amphetamine,
but I'm not a chemist! But if I was I would surely rather be busy in ,y kitchen trying new recipes rather than waiting for some larger predator throwing some bait at me lol

 

[muscleman]

Haven’t tried the pred TS yet - have a few original left too . Hoping it’s like the original white hydrazine ? And yes I wonder if the new doomsday is actually the hardcore ?

The Hardcore sample to me was kinda hardcore locked in but didnt enjoy it much. New TS like weak Excelsior byt 2 gives me bad mood and it is that long lasting **** so dont take late

 

[muscleman]

I like this pre but tbh its nothing like excelsior...only lasts a couple of hours and imo doesnt compare to how focused and clean the energy is off of the 11/25 from eva....

smash is also better than this pre

I actually got kinda used to Smash and half a scoop in the morning gives more power than coffee!

 

[muscleman]

I swear those are the exact same side effects I get on excelsior...

Typical stim sides, I got them my first summer on Excelsior and starved my belly off even without trying lol then I kinda got used to it. Excelsior and the main long lasting stim actually has my blood sugar and head balanced for much longer time than traditional amphetamine and dexamphetamine that I was prescribed for a short period until I realized I felt really messed heart stress and head......

 

[muscleman]

What they are saying is you made a post saying you’d ordered an excelsior plus two samples of doomsday hardcore but they are saying you are making it up and if you’ve got evidence to show you have placed an order of excelsior plus two DDH samples then if you prove it they’ll ship you whatever you’re wanting free.

I think they believe you’re a troll tbh and this board is full of guys working for brands secretly etc

I am saying I tried to do my order right after my post but that’s when I realized I was banned.

Anyhow, if their issue is that I am a troll, they can clearly see I made multiple orders including my order of the first version of Doomsday.
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I actually am a troll, and I am not trolling when I am saying that !
Got some great ideas for flying in the sly supplements its just that on my planet its forbidden to make money on any good medicine and supplement and once you find how cheap and simple it is to grow and make you just do it and share with your family!

 

[muscleman]

How's the 7/26 that just came out?

That is a relevant question!
Lol I used to have the hope they brought back the O.G but I gave up that hope since I have universal spice but I was surprised they put even just a little O.G spice in new TS and probably new users might really like it and O.G maybe but not feeling it strong
I also know that science and chemical combinations are endless but with the heat and all and the risk of even a serious stim junkie having just 2 scoop too many of a superstring PWO that could be fatal and that is also a reason they tone down strength.
With the red 5/24 I felt was the most different almost psychedelically stoned I think somebody on eroded wrote what ever that could mean? I didnt like the 5/24 felt a bit candy toxic lazy and slightly nauseated.

Maybe everyone and then Santa walks by and sprinkles some of that special crystal. Those white flakes in new TS tasted just like the main focus of O.G I think although the O.Gs were probably mixed with a bit of this and that and I cant pick ten different stims in a blind test. Lol

 

[muscleman]

Black coffee, a strong expresso, or a little can of Redbull before work, dont really compare to the most intensive and strong PWO out there.

So yes. Drinking Excelsior before going to work, do indeed surprise me.

Stay safe and hard.

I actually get more jitters and rapid heart beat from a triple Starbucks than a from less than a scoop of Excelsior.
Even feel more relaxed on a low dose of Excelsior.
So I understand those using it for work. Myself as well just a bit of caffeine and I save the Excelsior for the days when I am cleaning out the whole house like a muscle wife on m e t h
As long as I barely dosed more than half a scoop of O.G its a stim that builds tolerance very slowly as well in my experience.

But the times over a scoop and 1,5 or more I ended up with manic muscleman syndrome . I logged into this anabolic forum and started posting as muscleman

 

[muscleman]

Just get pure powder it’s a lot cheaper than capsules and easier to dose assuming you have a scale

Just for addictive people or less careful people all drugs are more risky in powder. But even using a PWO I recommend weighing it out. Like my strongest O.G tubs really fluffy and crispy and a whole full fresh scoop was less than 5gs and it was the strongest a few of my 8/23 kicked more than 10/22 a few kicked a little less

 

[muscleman]

Ha, doomsday is an apt name so , can only imagine the hardcore version ..

When I heard the name Doomsday I thought I am already eternally doomed and I remembered CRZ the O:G are Craze being crap. But congrats to you who like it! Might be some mild stims that more fried people wouldn't feel. I had a sample and felt a little but I think its really screwed to be charging and the false like Craze once again.
Still for those who enjoy that special long lasting ingredient of O.G it's hard to beat. It's not a rush for me just a very long steady flow of energy that for me is mentally and verbally stimulating for me.

Sorry guys I keep thinking to take out my dumbbells but then what if I do get a heart attack?

Actually did 4 slow heavy push ups yesterday lol Most of the base of my build today at 48 is dna and leftovers from starting push ups at eleven and sometime around my peak at 15 I could do maybe 40 but fast tempo then prob more...

then I became a teenage drunk and disco dancer was always crap boring the few times I followed my friend to gym with hang over and he had no magic PWO back then.....

 

[muscleman]

Looking to peak at 60 or later though if I start now. Testosterone feels pretty good all life natty although I get almost too serious boners if I just have some tribulus terrestrial, bought cheap from bulk good quality for price I think. Dont really think it build a lot of muscle and I would be too painfully honey if I took that or something stronger for testosterone.
But good luck for any of you guys it's working for. I am guessing a majority might be using at anabolic minds although I am even more interested in expanding my mind than my muscles... Already reached my peak lol And too much work trying to beat my self! Lol
Yeah thats great with age I eat like half of what I did when I trained my most and my 12 year old son already eats more. Soon I am not the largest male in my herd anymore but a few silver hairs on my chest.
Yeah I am a man mammal silver chest ape! Lol

Peace everyone and I know a lot of this dont belong but still Excelsior is almost a mythological PWO

Just google up the meaning of Excelsior and ponder I'm your mind!
Only sharing my own far out opinions and know I am normally on the far side but for those of you on the more comfortable more normal side I still encourage find your own knowledge. State open keep trying trust your gut

Peace <3

 

[muscleman]

Well yes I tried to place an order after that post but received the payment error message and didn't bother trying again thinking it was an issue with my credit card. I attempted another order for thermal spark and excelsior a week ago and received the same error and that's when I emailed PN asking what's going on with my account and they provided the explanation in my screenshot.

What they are saying is you made a post saying you’d ordered an excelsior plus two samples of doomsday hardcore but they are saying you are making it up and if you’ve got evidence to show you have placed an order of excelsior plus two DDH samples then if you prove it they’ll ship you whatever you’re wanting free.

I think they believe you’re a troll tbh and this board is full of guys working for brands secretly etc
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