Excelsior pre workout

[Ironpirate]

you reckon off label rc downers or something not on the label besides a hefty dose phenibut?

Worse things have happened.

 

[muscleman]

Since the black ones came out I feel some are stronger than others . It’s like some are underdosed

Thats the fun with this distributor! you will never what your gonna get, I also heard some they scoops

Worse things have happened.

Gotta be really worse then!

 

[Cryptocommander]

Since the black ones came out I feel some are stronger than others . It’s like some are underdosed

Yup same with me. Glad I’m not the only one who feels this.

 

[Frode Falch]

Hydrazine is so weird… I swear my experience changes from pill to pill…off of the exact same bottle

Thats very true. Its one of three: amazing, moderate, or almost no effect at all.

From the very same bottle.

 

[muscleman]

Yup same with me. Glad I’m not the only one who feels this.

I am afraid were all more or less suckers in the same boat here.

I am afraid that after crashing on planet Earth I got a bit confused and I thought Excelsior was my native planets interplanetary and inter dimensional fuel but it was just some kind of imitation that screwed me even more....

If I could only break free planets Earths gravity field again I would be surfing the galaxies again and be sure to bring home some of the real cosmic juice and I be bringing some for you guys as well and let you have a taste of cosmic freedom as well.

 

[tstrogo93]

you reckon off label rc downers or something not on the label besides a hefty dose phenibut?

Off label for sure

 

[zufir]

Off label for sure

For somatomax ? Geez... I use it for sleep 2 days a week and it gives me a good mood boost in the morning too

 

[Justjoe7989]

Any one know how the current batch of excelsior is from predator?

 

[muscleman]

For somatomax ? Geez... I use it for sleep 2 days a week and it gives me a good mood boost in the morning too

Checking Somatimax label seeing 14gs and phenibut on top that should be quite enough to put most people to sleep.
I use more moderate doses of phenibut and never gad issues but I belueve the horror stories from some people who keep increasing rhe dosage of phenibut and then withdrawals etc…
Maybe try and homecook somatimax lol phenivut gaba and was it wven mucuna pruriens on the label? A precursor to dopamine normally not recommended before sleep.
Would have splashed on a bottle of Somatomax if I hadnt lost all my sponsors after going public full throttle nuts And I think my livermeter showed toxix level 94% already so I am better off homecooking without that blue raspberry or whatever fruitpunch flavour they add.

who else has some bells ringing when they hear the word soma, a kind of blussfull substance of the ancient Indian scriptures.
According to some it might be symbolical or obtained in deep meditation or in hard core workouts.
According to some it was a blend of powerful herbs that would induce mystical transcendental experience.
But maybe Hi tech actually are the ones having found that recipe and releasing it as Somatomax? ?

 

[Frode Falch]

Any one know how the current batch of excelsior is from predator?

Stronger then anything else, but far away from the OG batches

 

[CATdiesel76]

Somatimax had a weird period where I didn’t think it helped much but started using it again this week and damn knocks you out. Sometimes I feel good in the morning, sometimes groggy as can be. But I sleep that’s for sure

 

[CATdiesel76]

Also, got an email that predator has been visited by some regulatory angencies and certain things are going away including two best sellers. Marketing ploy to sell inventor? Probably but figured it was worth the heads up

 

[Frode Falch]

I see doomsday keep dropping in price

 

[bell1986]

The talk of thermal spark coming back grabbed my attention, then I remembered back to a certain product not so long ago and the hype surrounding it, and decided to wait for more feedback before parting with any money

In the meantime, just brought myself some El Jefe (the new reformulated version by Xtremis Cartel) I was a huge fan of the original El Jefe which I can honestly say after trying many pre workouts was up there with the absolute best. For me, no other pre workout has given the same level of legitimate Euphoria, Focus & mood elevation as El Jefe (apart from excelsior, og excelsior user), maybe Flame v1 but tried most of the newer Euphoric pre workouts of today and they just don't do it for me.

Super excited to try the new Jefe on Friday. It was a choice of that or M1.

Have you tried thermal spark yet?

I bought a tub just to see what it was like.

It's strong. For me it's more like a modafinil feel. That awake in the zone focus. It lasts too long also. I can feel it 12 hours after I dosed. The first night I was struggling to get to sleep.

It gives a very nice mood lift. Takes a good hour to kick in and I honestly can't eat on them. Zero appetite. The first day I took one I never ate that full day and then I just forced food down at night.

I've tried them 3 times so far. Same effect every time. Modafinil type of feeling and zero appetite. On a cut these would be awesome. Though I honestly wouldn't take these daily. Just too wired to function everyday. Your trying to do 12 different tasks all at once.

I might just sell my capsules off. I like them but it's just too strong for me personally. I haven't took pre workouts etc for a long time so that's probably why.

If your in the UK and interested then hit me up.

 

[bell1986]

Jesus this guy talks slot without saying anything at all. I made it 7 minutes into the video. Still no real feedback

I watched this also lol. Made very little sense.

You tried them yourself yet?

 

[CATdiesel76]

I see doomsday keep dropping in price

going to stock up once it bottoms out. Have 3 open tubs currently though. Regardless of what everyone else says it’s still in of my favorite clean focus pres

 

[Justjoe7989]

going to stock up once it bottoms out. Have 3 open tubs currently though. Regardless of what everyone else says it’s still in of my favorite clean focus pres

What video was it?

 

[KvanH]

What video was it?

Probably this one.

,new Thermal Spark is similar to Excelsior 10/25, its not OG Thermal Spark.

 

[Frode Falch]

I watched this also lol. Made very little sense.

You tried them yourself yet?

I have not. I didnt try the original one. so i cant really compare

Also.. what is it? Fatburner? When people discuss terminal spark, it sound like they are talking about a pwo.. but whats the idea behind it? To burn fat?

Just the name itself, turns me away from it. I have never bought a fat burner. Imo grown men should never need a fatburner.

Put on your running shoes, or get your boxing gloves on. Find the heavybag or a sparring partner.

Theres your "fat burner"

 

[Frode Falch]

going to stock up once it bottoms out. Have 3 open tubs currently though. Regardless of what everyone else says it’s still in of my favorite clean focus pres

True. If you got the discipline and fitness level, doomsday is great.

 

[bell1986]

I have not. I didnt try the original one. so i cant really compare

Also.. what is it? Fatburner? When people discuss terminal spark, it sound like they are talking about a pwo.. but whats the idea behind it? To burn fat?

Just the name itself, turns me away from it. I have never bought a fat burner. Imo grown men should never need a fatburner.

Put on your running shoes, or get your boxing gloves on. Find the heavybag or a sparring partner.

Theres your "fat burner"

Yeh sold as a fat burner but.. I would never take it everyday. If you took this for a month solid I reckon you would take a heart attack lol.

The vasoconstriction on it is pretty bad. Almost like ritalin/adderal bad.

I have been using it this week and lost 3 pounds without trying to lose weight. It definitely works. My weight hasn't changed for about 2 months so I'm certain it's the thermal spark.

I never tried the old batch so i can't compare.

 

[KvanH]

I have not. I didnt try the original one. so i cant really compare

Also.. what is it? Fatburner? When people discuss terminal spark, it sound like they are talking about a pwo.. but whats the idea behind it? To burn fat?

Just the name itself, turns me away from it. I have never bought a fat burner. Imo grown men should never need a fatburner.

Put on your running shoes, or get your boxing gloves on. Find the heavybag or a sparring partner.

Theres your "fat burner"

Stimulants are many times sold as "fat burners". That's because they curve appetite and can have people move around more / be active and therefore increase their calorie expenditure and in some instances help get through WO's, when having low energy due to calorie deficit.

But I'm with you on this one, I don't like stimulants being called fat burners. They can offer help to the process, when used wisely, but the notion you laid out is one of the corner stones of fat loss. Along with putting the fork down, of course.

 

[CATdiesel76]

Bought a bottle for the hell of it. Never tried the original tjough

 

[Cryptocommander]

Have you tried thermal spark yet?

I bought a tub just to see what it was like.

It's strong. For me it's more like a modafinil feel. That awake in the zone focus. It lasts too long also. I can feel it 12 hours after I dosed. The first night I was struggling to get to sleep.

It gives a very nice mood lift. Takes a good hour to kick in and I honestly can't eat on them. Zero appetite. The first day I took one I never ate that full day and then I just forced food down at night.

I've tried them 3 times so far. Same effect every time. Modafinil type of feeling and zero appetite. On a cut these would be awesome. Though I honestly wouldn't take these daily. Just too wired to function everyday. Your trying to do 12 different tasks all at once.

I might just sell my capsules off. I like them but it's just too strong for me personally. I haven't took pre workouts etc for a long time so that's probably why.

If your in the UK and interested then hit me up.

I never tried Modafinil, at least not that I was aware from in the ingredients list of a preworkout. But with thermal spark I do get cold sweats for the first 30 mins or so, I feel relax, sometimes can get upset stomach. To tone it down I just start drinking water, and one hr into it, I’m ready to lift. Lifting feels good, I do get thirsty but I think water periodically during my lifting session. When I get home I get super hungry and I usually able to fall asleep after a long day. This is with the 04/24 batch. Some days I take it back to back days, then a day break and another back to back days. Only use one capsule and usually always have a meal 3-4hrs beforehand also. Overall I think is pretty good. I mentioned in an earlier post,,, that thermal spark reminded me
Of hydrazine. Anyone been taking thermal spark daily for months?

I got my predator nutrition Black Friday package recently, and might try that new thermal spark batch soon. Has anyone else tried it?

 

[Cryptocommander]

I have not. I didnt try the original one. so i cant really compare

Also.. what is it? Fatburner? When people discuss terminal spark, it sound like they are talking about a pwo.. but whats the idea behind it? To burn fat?

Just the name itself, turns me away from it. I have never bought a fat burner. Imo grown men should never need a fatburner.

Put on your running shoes, or get your boxing gloves on. Find the heavybag or a sparring partner.

Theres your "fat burner"

You tried OG detonate? That also was labeled a fat burner. I took that for a couple of/several years. I Loved that fat burner. And it did work as a preworkout. I Miss it.

 

[bell1986]

I never tried Modafinil, at least not that I was aware from in the ingredients list of a preworkout. But with thermal spark I do get cold sweats for the first 30 mins or so, I feel relax, sometimes can get upset stomach. To tone it down I just start drinking water, and one hr into it, I’m ready to lift. Lifting feels good, I do get thirsty but I think water periodically during my lifting session. When I get home I get super hungry and I usually able to fall asleep after a long day. This is with the 04/24 batch. Some days I take it back to back days, then a day break and another back to back days. Only use one capsule and usually always have a meal 3-4hrs beforehand also. Overall I think is pretty good. I mentioned in an earlier post,,, that thermal spark reminded me
Of hydrazine. Anyone been taking thermal spark daily for months?

I got my predator nutrition Black Friday package recently, and might try that new thermal spark batch soon. Has anyone else tried it?

This sounds similar to the new batch I have here.

It's very identical to hydrazine. I actually think it is hydrazine? Do you think predator has just changed the label on the hydrazine bottles to thermal spark?

I opened a cap of thermal spark and a cap of hydrazine. Both powders weigh the exact same and look exactly the same? Exact same taste also. Same effects aswell.

I wonder if predator has just changed the label?

It's a good product though. The focus and motivation is very strong.

I am gonna sell my tubs off though or do a swap for something. I just wanted to see what the hype was all about.

I wouldn't take it daily though. The crash later in the day is pretty bad and my appetite gets crushed. I usually have a ravenous appetite but I couldn't eat on them. I lost 3lbs in 5 days of use.

I just done that 5 day experiment to judge effects. I don't think using a dmha product daily is healthy. The vasoconstriction for me personally ia dreadful. Hands and feet and freezing cold. I've also felt a low mood/depression since I stopped them aswell. Another reason not to use dopamine boosting ingredients daily. Just isn't good for your neurotransmitters. Will be back to myself in a few days though.

 

[Frode Falch]

Bought a bottle for the hell of it. Never tried the original tjough

So how was it?

 

[Cryptocommander]

This sounds similar to the new batch I have here.

It's very identical to hydrazine. I actually think it is hydrazine? Do you think predator has just changed the label on the hydrazine bottles to thermal spark?

I opened a cap of thermal spark and a cap of hydrazine. Both powders weigh the exact same and look exactly the same? Exact same taste also. Same effects aswell.

I wonder if predator has just changed the label?

It's a good product though. The focus and motivation is very strong.

I am gonna sell my tubs off though or do a swap for something. I just wanted to see what the hype was all about.

I wouldn't take it daily though. The crash later in the day is pretty bad and my appetite gets crushed. I usually have a ravenous appetite but I couldn't eat on them. I lost 3lbs in 5 days of use.

I just done that 5 day experiment to judge effects. I don't think using a dmha product daily is healthy. The vasoconstriction for me personally ia dreadful. Hands and feet and freezing cold. I've also felt a low mood/depression since I stopped them aswell. Another reason not to use dopamine boosting ingredients daily. Just isn't good for your neurotransmitters. Will be back to myself in a few days though.

Yeah I’m thinking they just changed the label but don’t quote me on that… TS is probably a notch better than hydrazine as far as working out goes. But I feel you. I will still use it, I think it affects you more negatively than me. Will update on the new batch of TS i received from PN later this week.

 

[Frode Falch]

Black hydrazine? Or OG hydrazine?

 

[Cryptocommander]

Black hydrazine? Or OG hydrazine?

Og hydrazine.

 

[bell1986]

Black hydrazine? Or OG hydrazine?

If it is... Og Hydrazine

If they have done a label change then their basically charging more £££ for less servings.

It honestly wouldn't surprise me with Predator tbh.

 

[Cryptocommander]

If it is... Og Hydrazine

If they have done a label change then their basically charging more £££ for less servings.

It honestly wouldn't surprise me with Predator tbh.

Yeah. But this one is still a little off from The og hydrazine… because with og hydrazine I would take 2 pills and I would be stimulated lol. This one I only need one. I could not do two pills of TS. Is not that same stimulated feeling. So is not as good as white caps hydrazine but better than the black ones for sure.

 

[bell1986]

Yeah. But this one is still a little off from The og hydrazine… because with og hydrazine I would take 2 pills and I would be stimulated lol. This one I only need one. I could not do two pills of TS. Is not that same stimulated feeling. So is not as good as white caps hydrazine but better than the black ones for sure.

It's similar ingredients so your probably right. The TS is for sure stronger. I tried 2 thermal spark pills and was crazy wired lol. The crash was horrid though.

I stopped them 2 days ago and feel hellishly tired and depressed. Definitely a withdrawal from them. I used them to consistently though so it's my fault

 

[BigGame84]

It's similar ingredients so your probably right. The TS is for sure stronger. I tried 2 thermal spark pills and was crazy wired lol. The crash was horrid though.

I stopped them 2 days ago and feel hellishly tired and depressed. Definitely a withdrawal from them. I used them to consistently though so it's my fault

I only use TS twice a week. Weds and Sat. It needs to be spaced out.

 

[SpicedCider]

Anyone else tried SCL F-Bomb yet who can comment on the effects?

 

[Frode Falch]

Got some doomsday coming my way. back to lazer focused workout again!

 

[CATdiesel76]

Received my thermal spark today. Probably won’t try until next week. I got a deal on Adderex from HiTech and tried it today. It’s interesting. It has solid focus. Kicked in about an hour after I took it but lasted for like 6 hours. There were weird times where the focus wore off or I felt a bit off and tired then out of nowhere it would kick in again

 

[Frode Falch]

Probably just relabeled hydrazine. They know the Imperial nutrition name gets way more sales.

But hydrazine dont have 45 capsules in the bottle.

 

[Maximiliaan]

But hydrazine dont have 45 capsules in the bottle.

Different color caps too.

 

[ELROCK]

Received my thermal spark today. Probably won’t try until next week. I got a deal on Adderex from HiTech and tried it today. It’s interesting. It has solid focus. Kicked in about an hour after I took it but lasted for like 6 hours. There were weird times where the focus wore off or I felt a bit off and tired then out of nowhere it would kick in again

Did you take 1 or 2 tablets of Hi tech Adderex? Have you tried Hi Tech Cognisport yet? I love Cognisport at 2 caps. It’s not euphoric or anything, but it truly boosts cognition for most of the day.

 

[bell1986]

Got some doomsday coming my way. back to lazer focused workout again!

Any crash from doomsday?

Thermal spark is decent but that later on crash is horrid.

Does doomsday cause that feeling after it wears off? I suppose most dmha products will have that same crash?

 

[Maximiliaan]

Any crash from doomsday?

Thermal spark is decent but that later on crash is horrid.

Does doomsday cause that feeling after it wears off? I suppose most dmha products will have that same crash?

I’ve dosed it high sometimes but at 2 scoops by itself or 1.5 scoops with a coffee I’ve never had that, the opposite, I find my productivity/mindset is elevated post-workout. There’s no DMHA in it though so you gotta work with what it gives you, it won’t be like a jolt of energy like thermal spark. More if you start grinding away you’ll get more reps, more sets, more work done period.

 

[bell1986]

I’ve dosed it high sometimes but at 2 scoops by itself or 1.5 scoops with a coffee I’ve never had that, the opposite, I find my productivity/mindset is elevated post-workout. There’s no DMHA in it though so you gotta work with what it gives you, it won’t be like a jolt of energy like thermal spark. More if you start grinding away you’ll get more reps, more sets, more work done period.

It contains. Kigelia Africana (This is DMHA). They have just named it like this.

 

[CATdiesel76]

Did you take 1 or 2 tablets of Hi tech Adderex? Have you tried Hi Tech Cognisport yet? I love Cognisport at 2 caps. It’s not euphoric or anything, but it truly boosts cognition for most of the day.

I’ve only taken it once at one cap so far. Two I think would be too much. I almost got cognisport on the same order but held off for now. Glad to hear you enjoy it I will have to grab some

 

[Frode Falch]

Any crash from doomsday?

Thermal spark is decent but that later on crash is horrid.

Does doomsday cause that feeling after it wears off? I suppose most dmha products will have that same crash?

No crash. Because its not high stim.

 

[CATdiesel76]

Doomsday doesn’t have a crash for me. It takes a bit to kick in but has long lasting focus that lasts awhile. Most don’t get a high stim affect. Sometimes that’s the case for me but always have focus. Sometimes it hits like a truck, sometimes it comes on so slow that out of nowhere I realize I’m stimmed. It’s weird. But very clean feeling

 

[ELROCK]

I’ve dosed it high sometimes but at 2 scoops by itself or 1.5 scoops with a coffee I’ve never had that, the opposite, I find my productivity/mindset is elevated post-workout. There’s no DMHA in it though so you gotta work with what it gives you, it won’t be like a jolt of energy like thermal spark. More if you start grinding away you’ll get more reps, more sets, more work done period.

Where is the best place to purchase Doomsday?

 

[Frode Falch]

Where is the best place to purchase Doomsday?

Predator nutrition

 

[CATdiesel76]

Where is the best place to purchase Doomsday?

Predator. However, some people in the this thread might want to sell you a bottle of theirs as a bunch of people didn’t like it at all. I bought tubs off a few people on here

 

[Justjoe7989]

How's the current excelsior from predator?