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The New King of Pre-Workouts Is Almost Here!

littlrook said:
I'm confused now. You said you were able to "enhance the flavoring system also" Did you reopen all the tubs and then reship them to Strong???? Doesn't add up boss
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I believe I’ve covered this above but yes it’s entirely possible. Most manufacturing is done within a day it’s the scheduling that takes the longest but when you have everything on hand you can get things done fairly quickly and because we were in a waiting game with a third party we had the time to do all of this successfully in order to be proactive. We thought, if at the very least what we can do is enhance the flavors if it comes down needing to ship more product to cover the delay on the first shipment end.
 
Olympus Labs Rep said:
There was an actual manufacturing delay on Re1gn that elongated the process but shipment to the launch partner actually went smoothly.

There is a fulfillment center involved that had issue receiving on USPS’s part. It was a massive headache and time elongated process that’s still being resolved.

So while the investigation was pending there with USPS, we rescued an international shipment from going overseas and recalled it back to manufacturing where we put it on the production line and added flavoring, re-sealed, tested, etc as we waited on news for the USPS shipment since we were on standby everyday. When it looked like it was going to take longer than originally expected I next day’d 5 master cases to Strong which they are receiving today and will get orders out promptly.

this isn’t the type of predicament I want to end in but every manufacturer and brand can attest to the numerous issues that exist outside of the brands hands sometimes

I’ve talked to strong and we’re going to reform a few things regarding new product information, ingredients, ideas, to get the community more involved.

This pre-workout once taken preceded by AlphaBulk which has had immensely positive feedback should set the stage for what OL will be doing moving forward. There are definitely things on our end that need to be fine tuned to make the transitory process from brand to consumer swifter
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So.... Strong never had any stock to begin with? Went ahead with the sale and here we are. Are the lots/batches numbered so we know which were from the "international shipment" stock.
 
I thought with over our almost ten year tenure we had built a good rapport with our customers and members here but the incessant attacks from a few have been discouraging to say the least just because their motivated by negative energy. Yes there are things we can fix as a brand and strive towards but the excessive drama that some members constantly bring clouds out those intentions. It’s really a shame that AlphaBulk was attacked and the positive feedback has simply just been looked over, maybe it’s because those who attacked it originally and still continue to attack the brand never purchased it nor used it and just continue to attack the brand out of context
 
Olympus Labs Rep said:
I thought with over our almost ten year tenure we had built a good rapport with our customers and members here but the incessant attacks from a few have been discouraging to say the least just because their motivated by negative energy. Yes there are things we can fix as a brand and strive towards but the excessive drama that some members constantly bring clouds out those intentions. It’s really a shame that AlphaBulk was attacked and the positive feedback has simply just been looked over, maybe it’s because those who attacked it originally and still continue to attack the brand never purchased it nor used it and just continue to attack the brand out of context
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I’ve had a lot of encouragement the past couple days through messages supporting strong and OL from tons of veteran members; don’t let the naysayers bring down the launch. Yes things could have been smoother and next time I’m sure they will be. Tons of OL support still out there and the 10 year forum success and presence really helps. Appreciate the transparency for all to see. Hopefully it brings some clarity and understanding.
 
littlrook said:
So.... Strong never had any stock to begin with? Went ahead with the sale and here we are. Are the lots/batches numbered so we know which were from the "international shipment" stock.
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QUOTE="littlrook, post: 6718324, member: 9738"]
So.... Strong never had any stock to begin with? Went ahead with the sale and here we are. Are the lots/batches numbered so we know which were from the "international shipment" stock.
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It’s the same lot and batch… you can not just simply create 2 batches that quick. If this doesn’t make sense, you can continue to directly message me so I can help provide clarity
 
Olympus Labs Rep said:
I’ve just got news that all orders are going out today
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Nice. Let’s see some reviews when you guys use it!

Even if you weren’t happy about the launch and the product still works please share your opinion on both the launch and product review :)


I am guessing it is gonna be worth the wait
 
Package in route and will arrive on Friday which is my birthday, which ai am glad for because this was my present to myself.
 
Olympus Labs Rep said:
So while the investigation was pending there with USPS, we rescued an international shipment from going overseas and recalled it back to manufacturing where we put it on the production line and added flavoring, re-sealed, tested, etc as we waited on news for the USPS shipment since we were on standby everyday. When it looked like it was going to take longer than originally expected I next day’d 5 master cases to Strong which they are receiving today and will get orders out promptly.
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Can we have more info about the international shipments or what distributors are you going to work with? As I've missed the OG OL products and don't plan on missing these out this time.
Thanks.
 
You guys can PM me and I can try and reach out or the quickest was would just be to use the chat on the site. I’m pretty they’re all out now though
 
I never got any updates from strong other than order placed. I had to go to the website, log in and click on the order to see the shipping update
 
I went on the website and used the chat feature. The person gave me my tracking number that still hasn’t been updated since the 22nd and I ordered soon as it went live. He said it should be here by the end of the week… but the tracking doesn’t reflect that. Who knows 🤷‍♂️
 
Jbtwentytwo said:
I went on the website and used the chat feature. The person gave me my tracking number that still hasn’t been updated since the 22nd and I ordered soon as it went live. He said it should be here by the end of the week… but the tracking doesn’t reflect that. Who knows 🤷‍♂️
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Hopefully it’s there brother. Keep me updated
 
Segansational said:
Hmm, not sure I ever got my email from Strong now that I come to think of it...
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Did get an order confirmation email.
Afi140 said:
You guys can PM me and I can try and reach out or the quickest was would just be to use the chat on the site. I’m pretty they’re all out now though
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Appreciate you looking out!
littlrook said:
I never got any updates from strong other than order placed. I had to go to the website, log in and click on the order to see the shipping update
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Just confirming the above. I had to log into my account where I could see that my status was "shipped". Says it should arrive tomorrow!
 
Segansational said:
Did get an order confirmation email. Appreciate you looking out!Just confirming the above. I had to log into my account where I could see that my status was "shipped". Says it should arrive tomorrow!
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Nice bro! Can’t wait for feedback to roll in
 
Just received my product. However, there is no Stim X in the product. Listed nowhere on the label. It does however list Alpha-Yohimbine. Label is incorrect again? I thought you said there were other alkaloids in the product, which insinuates not yohimbine or alpha yohimbine. Seriously, what is wrong with your company? How can I trust anything on the label or in the container?
 
IronFlex24 said:
Just received my product. However, there is no Stim X in the product. Listed nowhere on the label. It does however list Alpha-Yohimbine. Label is incorrect again? I thought you said there were other alkaloids in the product, which insinuates not yohimbine or alpha yohimbine. Seriously, what is wrong with your company? How can I trust anything on the label or in the container?
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That bothers me as I bought two tubs of it going off of the label they posted and had on the site. I wouldn’t bought two tubs if I had known it has Alpha-yo in it.
 
IronFlex24 said:
Just received my product. However, there is no Stim X in the product. Listed nowhere on the label. It does however list Alpha-Yohimbine. Label is incorrect again? I thought you said there were other alkaloids in the product, which insinuates not yohimbine or alpha yohimbine. Seriously, what is wrong with your company? How can I trust anything on the label or in the container?
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I will go ahead and disclose the stim-x, im very thankful for two members messaging me about this. Stim-x was not usable because apparently our tm application was shot down and didn’t pass label compliance. Stim-x is a unique extract other than any on the market targeting a broad range of alkaloids including a-yohimbine. I’ve said before it is of the yohimbine alkaloid family. If you search c. Macroceras contains a broad range of alkaloids and the label should be C. macroceras extract but of the dosage approximately 1mg of that is alpha-y per scoop. This is incidentally me disclosing the extract but transparency matters more here in this case than anything else. I will get labels updated and make sure the transitory process from r&d and labeling compliance in check. In no way should this affect the products efficacy

there is 1mg of alpha y per extract per scoop, of the stim-x ingredient

Nothing has really gone right for this launch and it brings me back to the origins of the brand in 14. I admit labels need to be greatly cleaned up and as this is an internal thing we’ll ensure things change moving forward.
 
ELROCK said:
That bothers me as I bought two tubs of it going off of the label they posted and had on the site. I wouldn’t bought two tubs if I had known it has Alpha-yo in it.
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please message me if you have any questions regarding my explanation. Just a general clusterfuck admittedly and something we need to get sorted asap with the labels
 
Further clarification: this is the same blend and dose as in re1gn. Complete labeling error. Of the extract there is 1mg of a-yohimbine yielded per scoop. The effects of the extract are milder than other extracts and compounded with genistein it has a smoothing effect. I apologize once again and will make it correct plus make sure this type of mistake doesn’t happen again 🙏🏻
 
ELROCK said:
That bothers me as I bought two tubs of it going off of the label they posted and had on the site. I wouldn’t bought two tubs if I had known it has Alpha-yo in it.
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I also would not have bought two tubs had I known that it has alpha yo. I’m confused on the messaging we are getting now as OL has always (literally since the days of Re1gn) vehemently denied that stim X had anything to do with yohimbine but now apparently that’s exactly what stim X truly is and because of trademark law it’s just labeled as alpha yo now???!!!

This is absolutely bonkers.
 
Sculptor said:
I also would not have bought two tubs had I known that it has alpha yo. I’m confused on the messaging we are getting now as OL has always (literally since the days of Re1gn) vehemently denied that stim X had anything to do with yohimbine but now apparently that’s exactly what stim X truly is and because of trademark law it’s just labeled as alpha yo now???!!!

This is absolutely bonkers.
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1. The stim-x in re1gn is the same extract as the one used in Oracle. It’s also the same dose, so people who bought Oracle and used re1gn should feel the same effect from it

2. c. Macroceras extract is a wide range alkaloid extract of which it’s constituents include a-yohimbine. It’s not the only alkaloid nor the only ingredient yielded from the extract.

3. because the label was misprinted I thought it was right to disclose the amount of extract that yields a-yohimbine which is 1mg per scoop

4. Every stim in this product is not comparable to any other stim you’ve taken because there is a super potent MAOI in this product which effects the signaling and efficacy of cumulative stims in the formula.

5. the labeling is a mistake and an internal error that we’ve got to correct. It should be stim-x C. Macroceras. It will be corrected

6. it’s a long known fact and speculation that stim-x’s extract included yohimbine alkaloids. Invalid Link Removed


again, I apologize. We will correct the label. I really hope this doesn’t affect your experience with the product and you end up liking it. 🙏🏻
 
So for clarification the ingredient currently inside is indeed stim-x which is not just alpha-y but other extracts as well, correct? I think that’s what I’m reading. So all batches from first to future batches will feel identical in terms of formula?
 
Afi140 said:
So for clarification the ingredient currently inside is indeed stim-x which is not just alpha-y but other extracts as well, correct? I think that’s what I’m reading. So all batches from first to future batches will feel identical in terms of formula?
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100% correct
 
Olympus Labs Rep said:
1. The stim-x in re1gn is the same extract as the one used in Oracle. It’s also the same dose, so people who bought Oracle and used re1gn should feel the same effect from it

2. c. Macroceras extract is a wide range alkaloid extract of which it’s constituents include a-yohimbine. It’s not the only alkaloid nor the only ingredient yielded from the extract.

3. because the label was misprinted I thought it was right to disclose the amount of extract that yields a-yohimbine which is 1mg per scoop

4. Every stim in this product is not comparable to any other stim you’ve taken because there is a super potent MAOI in this product which effects the signaling and efficacy of cumulative stims in the formula.

5. the labeling is a mistake and an internal error that we’ve got to correct. It should be stim-x C. Macroceras. It will be corrected

6. it’s a long known fact and speculation that stim-x’s extract included yohimbine alkaloids. Invalid Link Removed


again, I apologize. We will correct the label. I really hope this doesn’t affect your experience with the product and you end up liking it. 🙏🏻
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How can point 1 be true when if you re- read this thread you specifically answer “lower” when another member asks about the amount of stim x in reign compared to oracle. Flat out lie
 
IronFlex24 said:
How can point 1 be true when if you re- read this thread you specifically answer “lower” when another member asks about the amount of stim x in reign compared to oracle. Flat out lie
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Yes, you’re right it is more mild than re1gn after comparing the % of extracted ingredients. It’s the same stim-x extract with lower dose yielded.

it’s the same exact concept with phospholipid yields from lecithin. it varies from batch to batch.

I don’t know what your intention is here but there isn’t a point in trying to play detective with the flat out lie statement
 
Got my tubs just a bit ago, I immediately took one scoop before running some errands to sample the flavor and kind of get the feeling of the stims even though it's my rest day. I have to say that I really enjoy the flavor, it gives me nostalgia because it tastes exactly like pez to me. I could feel the beta alanine which, honestly wasn't expecting because of my tolerance and the small amount. The feeling is of the stims is good at one scoop, nothing. Overpowering, exited to try to try two scoops tomorrow for am arm and shoulder workout, I will let you guys know how it goes.
 
Those two comments did not jive 100% at all, so it was a lie until proved otherwise, which you did. Makes sense. You explanation is good so thank you for that. Frankly I’m just extremely pissed that I purchased 6 bottles of alpha bulk, which I like, and 3 bottles of oracle, but it’s just hard for me to feel confident about what I’m putting in my body because of all the issues with this release and labeling. The least I can ask is to order a product and receive a label that matches the website I purchase from, particularly for a new release. You shouldn’t have to be defending and explaining everything.
So yeah, I’m pissed, I’ll leave it be.
 
Seth777 said:
Got my tubs just a bit ago, I immediately took one scoop before running some errands to sample the flavor and kind of get the feeling of the stims even though it's my rest day. I have to say that I really enjoy the flavor, it gives me nostalgia because it tastes exactly like pez to me. I could feel the beta alanine which, honestly wasn't expecting because of my tolerance and the small amount. The feeling is of the stims is good at one scoop, nothing. Overpowering, exited to try to try two scoops tomorrow for am arm and shoulder workout, I will let you guys know how it goes.
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some positivity! Lol. Glad it’s a nice pleasant experience at one scoop and the taste is good! Looking forward to seeing how two scoops hits you. Hopefully the formula and experience will make everyone happy
 
Seth777 said:
Got my tubs just a bit ago, I immediately took one scoop before running some errands to sample the flavor and kind of get the feeling of the stims even though it's my rest day. I have to say that I really enjoy the flavor, it gives me nostalgia because it tastes exactly like pez to me. I could feel the beta alanine which, honestly wasn't expecting because of my tolerance and the small amount. The feeling is of the stims is good at one scoop, nothing. Overpowering, exited to try to try two scoops tomorrow for am arm and shoulder workout, I will let you guys know how it goes.
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Thank you for the feedback! Excited one scoop made you feel good, and happy to hear about the flavor 😊
 
IronFlex24 said:
Those two comments did not jive 100% at all, so it was a lie until proved otherwise, which you did. Makes sense. You explanation is good so thank you for that. Frankly I’m just extremely pissed that I purchased 6 bottles of alpha bulk, which I like, and 3 bottles of oracle, but it’s just hard for me to feel confident about what I’m putting in my body because of all the issues with this release and labeling. The least I can ask is to order a product and receive a label that matches the website I purchase from, particularly for a new release. You shouldn’t have to be defending and explaining everything.
So yeah, I’m pissed, I’ll leave it be.
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I understand your frustration completely. An error is an error, however clerical it may be, and I still feel like I need to make up for it by doing something. It’s just who I am. I will learn from this mistake and make sure it doesn’t happen again. Meanwhile I can assure you that you will enjoy the product and the effort that was put into putting it together. I am putting together some really amazing things for the brand and you guys so please continue trusting in us 🙏🏻
 
Olympus Labs Rep said:
6. it’s a long known fact and speculation that stim-x’s extract included yohimbine alkaloids. Invalid Link Removed
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From that thread, OL rep:

VO2Maxima said:
Right. It's a standardized extract of alkaloids of C. Macroceras. It's not yohimbine, and it's not rauwolscine. We haven't disclosed the exact extract though.
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I’m so confused. I’d really like to believe in the products OL is bringing out and I dearly miss their lineup from 2016-2017. I don’t even mind AY and even buy it solo. But there was very little gray area in the responses. We were not it was NOT alpha Y and that it contained no alpha Y. I’m really not understanding why even OL is just finding this out now? After the presale?? No one thought to test this earlier and verify what constituents were truly in it?

There is a huge demand for hardcore products here. It’s not like we don’t appreciate the interaction. It’s just frustrating to find out these things after we’ve paid for the products.
 
N2ofusion said:
From that thread, OL rep:



I’m so confused. I’d really like to believe in the products OL is bringing out and I dearly miss their lineup from 2016-2017. I don’t even mind AY and even buy it solo. But there was very little gray area in the responses. We were not it was NOT alpha Y and that it contained no alpha Y. I’m really not understanding why even OL is just finding this out now? After the presale?? No one thought to test this earlier and verify what constituents were truly in it?

There is a huge demand for hardcore products here. It’s not like we don’t appreciate the interaction. It’s just frustrating to find out these things after we’ve paid for the products.
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No it’s a label error. There is a wide range of constituents of the alkaloids, in the same way there’s a wide range of phospholipids in soy lecithin with varying amounts from batch to batch. It’s unlike the yohimbe barks and other generic extracts on the market. The labels need to be corrected. Still an error but I hope that provides clarity in answer
 
ELROCK said:
That bothers me as I bought two tubs of it going off of the label they posted and had on the site. I wouldn’t bought two tubs if I had known it has Alpha-yo in it.
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That's why the importance of transparent labels is important. Hopefully they go back to that.
Olympus Labs Rep said:
Further clarification: this is the same blend and dose as in re1gn. Complete labeling error. Of the extract there is 1mg of a-yohimbine yielded per scoop. The effects of the extract are milder than other extracts and compounded with genistein it has a smoothing effect. I apologize once again and will make it correct plus make sure this type of mistake doesn’t happen again
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Well, 1 mg is probably my limit, so this unfortunately may be only a 1 scooper for me.
Olympus Labs Rep said:
Yes, you’re right it is more mild than re1gn after comparing the % of extracted ingredients. It’s the same stim-x extract with lower dose yielded.

it’s the same exact concept with phospholipid yields from lecithin. it varies from batch to batch.

I don’t know what your intention is here but there isn’t a point in trying to play detective with the flat out lie statement
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Hopefully this is the case. I think KannaEase should help mellow some of the effects? I've had other pre's that seemingly have a balls to wall amount of stims, yet are manageable due to other ingredients that smooth the effect.
Seth777 said:
Got my tubs just a bit ago, I immediately took one scoop before running some errands to sample the flavor and kind of get the feeling of the stims even though it's my rest day. I have to say that I really enjoy the flavor, it gives me nostalgia because it tastes exactly like pez to me. I could feel the beta alanine which, honestly wasn't expecting because of my tolerance and the small amount. The feeling is of the stims is good at one scoop, nothing. Overpowering, exited to try to try two scoops tomorrow for am arm and shoulder workout, I will let you guys know how it goes.
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At least we have our first report of feedback.

All this to say, while I'll still give it a shot since it arrives today, I'm certainly less enthusiastic/more heistant about it and how I'll tolerate. But will report back either way!

Btw, for those people who continue to echo the sentiment that alpha-y (in general) is more well tolerated than yohimbine, with all the feedback on forums I don't believe that to be true.
 
Segansational said:
That's why the importance of transparent labels is important. Hopefully they go back to that.Well, 1 mg is probably my limit, so this unfortunately may be only a 1 scooper for me. Hopefully this is the case. I think KannaEase should help mellow some of the effects? I've had other pre's that seemingly have a balls to wall amount of stims, yet are manageable due to other ingredients that smooth the effect.At least we have our first report of feedback.

All this to say, while I'll still give it a shot since it arrives today, I'm certainly less enthusiastic/more heistant about it and how I'll tolerate. But will report back either way!

Btw, for those people who continue to echo the sentiment that alpha-y (in general) is more well tolerated than yohimbine, with all the feedback on forums I don't believe that to be true.
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Remind me did you ever try re1gn? It’ll be way more tamed since there’s no j.Regia as well and how genistein helps the signaling, breakdown, and processing of these stims
 
Olympus Labs Rep said:
Remind me did you ever try re1gn? It’ll be way more tamed since there’s no j.Regia as well and how genistein helps the signaling, breakdown, and processing of these stims
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J. Regia doesn’t overstimulate people the way Y and AY does.

Personally, I did get overstimulated from Re1gn (shaky, cold sweats and anxious). That’s why I always much preferred CU. That was smooth feel good energy.
 
ELROCK said:
J. Regia doesn’t overstimulate people the way Y and AY does.

Personally, I did get overstimulated from Re1gn (shaky, cold sweats and anxious). That’s why I always much preferred CU. That was smooth feel good energy.
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To this date, I don’t think the market has ever seen a legitimate MAOI. We happened to discover Genistein which has been studied and is both naturally occurring and effective. This controls the whole regulation, breakdown, and efficacy of all stims in this product.
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