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ax1 said:
People have no one to blame but themselves when they gamble more than they can afford to live with. Not that Im happy these people lost money but I cant believe this stuff happens over and over again.
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I thank the FOMO people for helping us all :D
 
ValiantThor08 said:
If APE can’t be shorted, perhaps it will defend some of AMCs value? I don’t know.
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APE will trade as a normal stock and most definitly be open to shorting. Some bigger institutions still have 10s of millions of shares of APE that they will inherit and will most likely have available for borrowing....and if people holding APE dont have share lending turned off or have it it in a margin account they can also be lent out.
 
ValiantThor08 said:
The point is long term. Short term I knew this was going to suck when the price of APE was going to steal from AMC. It temporarily sucks, for maybe the next couple weeks. Then after a week or two, I bet we see both APE and AMC rise in price. The APE pushed the short squeeze further away, but did not destroy the short squeeze. Ultimate, this is good for AMC long term, and if it is, it is good for us at the end of the day. It just sucks in the short term when we have all been looking forward to upwards volatility.
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Its going to be interesting to see if people dont get any shares. Remember, on a official level not including whats in ETF's, retail ownes 90% of the entire float. That means retail ownes 90% of the entire APE float as well (not including the 485 million AMC has in the tank) so if there really are 10s of millions of synthetics we will see what happens. Or if someone like Vanguard doesnt get theirs.

Compushare is distributing APE, but after that is no holds barred.

The other thing to look out for is to see if they open up options chains for APE which is where more fuqqery can start happening.
 
LMFAO, after early yesterday afternoon Lou declared AMC to run some time between 2pm yesterday and 2pm today, tonight Lou just kicked everybody who thinks AMC is a "short squeeze" play off his youtube channel!!

Also, Lou says this is going to have a run like a regular play next week and he is officially getting out next week.

Tic tok tic tok.....Lou off to his PO box to collect his Shytadel check!
 
ax1 said:
LMFAO, after early yesterday afternoon Lou declared AMC to run some time between 2pm yesterday and 2pm today, tonight Lou just kicked everybody who thinks AMC is a "short squeeze" play off his youtube channel!!

Also, Lou says this is going to have a run like a regular play next week and he is officially getting out next week.

Tic tok tic tok.....Lou off to his PO box to collect his Shytadel check!
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Yeah, Lou said there is no such thing as a short squeeze. He is either a paid shill, or just so butt hurt and pessimistic that he is blind.
 
ValiantThor08 said:
Yeah, Lou said there is no such thing as a short squeeze. He is either a paid shill, or just so butt hurt and pessimistic that he is blind.
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He is making no logical sense, AMC will be the same fundamental play 2:1 split. its just as shorted and has just as many of potential synthetics. They are not diluting AMC, there is no reason to. Thats why APE was created, shareholders say no to dillution. Shareholders need to be asked if APE can be converted to AMC, they wont be asked anytime soon, there is no reason to, they can raise money through APE and make the company stronger anyways. Its a win win, expect AMC's (the company) win is still our win, what if they dilute a measly 50 million APE shares and raise enough money to buy Cinemark without hurting their already $1.2 billion pockets?

Im sure your going to see fuqqery on APE, thats already started, but thats an APE problem. APE will have voting rights, but if we already own the majority of the float what difference does it make, if they couldnt out synthetic AMC votes, how would they out-synthetic APE and take our votes away? Lou makes no logical sense.

On top of that, Adam Aaron is juggling both running a company and satisfying the 4 million+ shareholders that not only saves his company, but made AMC the big name brand it is today. Not that it was nothing before, but AMC has never had such popularity, and he isnt going to turn on us and lose his hardcore customer base. There is no secret agenda in my belief to help the side that tried to destroy AMC, not in my opinion, no way.

Anyways the truth is nobody knows for certain AMC will squeeze or not, but thats what I got in for, the shorts still havent covered so Im here to stay. Im always open to adjusting my price targets if I feel the need. If it doesnt squeeze, thats the risk Im sticking with all the way until the end, I will see this all the way through. Im also open to selling off APE if the price is high enough to hold me comfortable for the next couple years on top of my income which is the $40-$50 target, although I just doubt it will get anywhere near that, but anything can happen and I am ready.
 
What I want to know is if a long term share is split into a dividend stock, is that dividend stock by default a long term gain share? Or do we start on day 0?
 
ax1 said:
He is making no logical sense, AMC will be the same fundamental play 2:1 split. its just as shorted and has just as many of potential synthetics. They are not diluting AMC, there is no reason to. Thats why APE was created, shareholders say no to dillution. Shareholders need to be asked if APE can be converted to AMC, they wont be asked anytime soon, there is no reason to, they can raise money through APE and make the company stronger anyways. Its a win win, expect AMC's (the company) win is still our win, what if they dilute a measly 50 million APE shares and raise enough money to buy Cinemark without hurting their already $1.2 billion pockets?

Im sure your going to see fuqqery on APE, thats already started, but thats an APE problem. APE will have voting rights, but if we already own the majority of the float what difference does it make, if they couldnt out synthetic AMC votes, how would they out-synthetic APE and take our votes away? Lou makes no logical sense.

On top of that, Adam Aaron is juggling both running a company and satisfying the 4 million+ shareholders that not only saves his company, but made AMC the big name brand it is today. Not that it was nothing before, but AMC has never had such popularity, and he isnt going to turn on us and lose his hardcore customer base. There is no secret agenda in my belief to help the side that tried to destroy AMC, not in my opinion, no way.

Anyways the truth is nobody knows for certain AMC will squeeze or not, but thats what I got in for, the shorts still havent covered so Im here to stay although Im open to selling off APE if the price is high enough to hold me comfortable for the next couple years on top of my income which is the $40-$50 target, although I just doubt it will get anywhere near that, but anything can happen and I am ready.
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Lou is just butt hurt. When people are butt hurt, they speak emotionally. I knew he would not sell when he said he would. He was speaking out of emotions.
 
ValiantThor08 said:
I will say, APE did slow the momentum, and that was annoying.
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People were crying dividend for well over a year now too, still dont get the FUDD. Questioning everything is fine, I have my own doubts, but although it may have slowed down momentum, was it really APE? or look up the page on post #7208 and thats probably the answer why momentum slowed down.

I cant say this is going to help or not over the next couple of months, but Ill give it a chance before I go Lou crazy lol.

Now, here is another situation that can occur, AMC drops to $5-$7, 10s of millions more AMC shares get gobbled up by retail and also the possible effect of people selling off APE to fund gobbling up more AMC. We will see. If I get my APE price target and AMC dropped more than anticipated Id certainly get a little more, but definitely not dropping my whole cash bag into it as I want to diversify into other plays. My APE price target, again probably wont happen but I have a plan just in case.
 
ax1 said:
People were crying dividend for well over a year now too, still dont get the FUDD. Questioning everything is fine, I have my own doubts, but although it may have slowed down momentum, was it really APE? or look up the page on post #7208 and thats probably the answer why momentum slowed down.

I cant say this is going to help or not over the next couple of months, but Ill give it a chance before I go Lou crazy lol.

Now, here is another situation that can occur, AMC drops to $5-$7, 10s of millions more AMC shares get gobbled up by retail and also the possible effect of people selling off APE to fund gobbling up more AMC. We will see. If I get my APE price target and AMC dropped more than anticipated Id certainly get a little more, but definitely not dropping my whole cash bag into it as I want to diversify into other plays. My APE price target, again probably wont happen but I have a plan just in case.
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Yeah, I’m still bullish. I have to believe that Citadel can’t get away with AMC crime forever.
 
ValiantThor08 said:
If APE can’t be shorted, perhaps it will defend some of AMCs value? I don’t know.
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why wouldnt that be availble to short ? AA made it clear he is putting more then what AMC shares float is .. not that all that matters .. def will be shorted from previous experiences on dividends
 
GQdaLEGEND said:
why wouldnt that be availble to short ? AA made it clear he is putting more then what AMC shares float is .. not that all that matters .. def will be shorted from previous experiences on dividends
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Maybe AA has a plan. I mean, he has to. He claims APE is the pounce on the shorts. If that’s the case, he may know something we all don’t. Why call something a pounce on the shorts if it ends up helping the shorts lol.
 
Wow….my own screenshot nothing fake here, I heard about it and now confirmed in my own, read the bottom on WeBull! Fortunately I only have 10% of my shares on WeBull but damn this is fuqqed up!

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ax1 said:
Wow….my own screenshot nothing fake here, I heard about it and now confirmed in my own, read the bottom on WeBull! Fortunately I only have 10% of my shares on WeBull but damn this is fuqqed up!

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What’s going on?
 
ValiantThor08 said:
Maybe AA has a plan. I mean, he has to. He claims APE is the pounce on the shorts. If that’s the case, he may know something we all don’t. Why call something a pounce on the shorts if it ends up helping the shorts lol.
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"they all have a plan" lol
 
ax1 said:
Wow….my own screenshot nothing fake here, I heard about it and now confirmed in my own, read the bottom on WeBull! Fortunately I only have 10% of my shares on WeBull but damn this is fuqqed up!

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yup same message here .. on my TD( think or swim) it allows me to buy/sell

if they dont get this fixed by monday morning .. i think we will see 14-15range of amc
 
GQdaLEGEND said:
yup same message here .. on my TD( think or swim) it allows me to buy/sell

if they dont get this fixed by monday morning .. i think we will see 14-15range of amc
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I dont think they will fix it, its officially shut out both Monday and possibly Tuesday on WeBull. Unless enough politicalretail pressure has them change that. I heard customer service on WeBull was over an hour waiting over the GCT issues, so it would take a bit of work.
 
ax1 said:
I also heard that people that went in on IPO for that GCT stock that boomed were locked out of their accounts from trading while it was booming, although I cant confirm that.
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it wasnt booming ..it was drowning bc webull did the same and we couldnt trade from until 3PM that day and soon as that happened and it shot up
 
I heard WeBull's policy was updated overnight by adding "others" under Reverse Stock split....

Common Sense investor coveres it minute 3:40, although this to me is a claim I have no concrete evidence this actually happened and wasnt already there, but I wouldnt be surprised if true.

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Here comes " I told yall they would do this crap "

sick of excuses to be honest .. this is an old policy .. ive had webull for 4 years and have been dealing with this crap, its nothing new against APES

yeah it suxs and affects the stock short term
 
GQdaLEGEND said:
it wasnt booming ..it was drowning bc webull did the same and we couldnt trade from until 3PM that day and soon as that happened and it shot up
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Did you actually pick that up on IPO or you bought in low? Just curious nothing to do with what happened. You got that from Moon Market?
 
GQdaLEGEND said:
Here comes " I told yall they would do this crap "

sick of excuses to be honest .. this is an old policy .. ive had webull for 4 years and have been dealing with this crap, its nothing new against APES

yeah it suxs and affects the stock short term
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I could have paid $75 and got it into Fidelity like I took my Robbinghood out, but I also like the idea of not having it all with one company. If anything, Im not so worried about the buy button (not saying thats ok, thats horrible) being taken away as I am with the sell button. I just need to sell if it pops.

WeBull will be my first to go, a little over 200 shares on long term gains tax at $10 and change a share....well first to go if it ever squeezes of course :)
 
ax1 said:
Did you actually pick that up on IPO or you bought in low? Just curious nothing to do with what happened. You got that from Moon Market?
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i picked it up .. put in for 35-40 shares and got 4 @12.25 .. sold 1 @50 to get the invested money back

yup mr moon market.
 
ax1 said:
I could have paid $75 and got it into Fidelity like I took my Robbinghood out, but I also like the idea of not having it all with one company. If anything, Im not so worried about the buy button (not saying thats ok, thats horrible) being taken away as I am with the sell button. I just need to sell if it pops.

WeBull will be my first to go, a little over 200 shares on long term gains tax at $10 and change a share....well first to go if it ever squeezes of course :)
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oh yea fck forgot .. TD gonna charge me $30-33 for this dividend crap .. gonna be a fun call to them
 
GQdaLEGEND said:
oh yea fck forgot .. TD gonna charge me $30-33 for this dividend crap .. gonna be a fun call to them
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Really? Fuqqing asswipes,, I need to keep on this make sure I have that covered in case they decide to margin call a cash account and take my AMC shares out. Thanks for the heads up.
 
ValiantThor08 said:
I’m over here with CashApp, hopefully not having to worry about any craziness lol.
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Id be a little worried about CashApp...not sure if I heard you may or may not get them on Monday. Im going to do my best getting up really early in the morning by 8am (LOL! dont ask!) and keep in eye on APE if it starts trading pre-market or not, and if I get any APE at all just in case to be sure if the unlikely even that APE runs up at open I can trade it away if I want.

The unfortunate part, there are going to be alot of people that likely wont have them on Monday.

The only people Ive heard so far that actually have their hands on APE (at least half whats owed to them or more) are those who are holding AMC on Compushare, Compushare is the company that is actually delivering the APE to the brokerages and also sending the receipts out to the DTCC.

I did get a message on Fidelity that I will get them on Monday, I hope they dont "screw" up.
 
ax1 said:
Id be a little worried about CashApp...not sure if I heard you may or may not get them on Monday. Im going to do my best getting up really early in the morning by 8am (LOL! dont ask!) and keep in eye on APE if it starts trading pre-market or not, and if I get any APE at all just in case to be sure if the unlikely even that APE runs up at open I can trade it away if I want.

The unfortunate part, there are going to be alot of people that likely wont have them on Monday.

The only people Ive heard so far that actually have their hands on APE (at least half whats owed to them or more) are those who are holding AMC on Compushare, Compushare is the company that is actually delivering the APE to the brokerages and also sending the receipts out to the DTCC.

I did get a message on Fidelity that I will get them on Monday, I hope they dont "screw" up.
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If I don’t get on Monday, guess I’ll be okay. I did not have an intention on selling them. That said, if APE runs up 100 plus a share on Monday, and I don’t have APE, I’m going to be a little mad.
 
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According to this, I should have APE Monday. Speculation: what if Citadel drives APE up very high to get majority of retail to sell, so that they buy, and then have most of the votes. Then they vote for true AMC dilution.
 
ValiantThor08 said:
Regal officially filing for bankruptcy is going to be very bullish for AMC.
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I was almost going to buy a few shares of CNWGY with $20 I have laying around accounts but never pulled the trigger. The low friday was 10 cents and when I thought about it, it was already in the high teens. I figured if its offiical its either going to drop more or disappear I dunno how the stocks work with all this, and if AMC buys them up somehow if that ticker is still alive, if it is I assume it may pop but maybe it wont exist anymore. Anyways its $20 worth Ill see what happens on Monday.
 
ValiantThor08 said:
Hilariously, Regal, who is filing for bankruptcy, has a higher stock price than AMC. Criminal world.
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What ticker are you looking at? I was thinking it was under CNWGY, Cineworld. There is also CNNWF and DQ6 whatever that means???? I was guessing CNWGY was the main ticker. All 3 tanked hard.
 
ax1 said:
What ticker are you looking at? I was thinking it was under CNWGY, Cineworld. There is also CNNWF and DQ6 whatever that means???? I was guessing CNWGY was the main ticker. All 3 tanked hard.
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Okau, I was looking at the wrong ticker. Looking at a Regal Entertainment ticker showing 22 dollars
 
ValiantThor08 said:
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According to this, I should have APE Monday. Speculation: what if Citadel drives APE up very high to get majority of retail to sell, so that they buy, and then have most of the votes. Then they vote for true AMC dilution.
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Im rooting for them to drive APE up high so I can sell and be comfortable on Monday!!!! LOL!!!

There is a growing movement in the community to hold APE for 7 days no matter what so we can get a share count while we wait for all the delays for people to get it. Im sorry I have to sell if I have to sell but its not a bad idea.

And yes Shytadel can try that, it might work, but Adam Aaron and the board still have to put up that vote to dilute AMC first and who knows if they will do that. If Shytadel drives APE up high, Adam has 485 million APE shares he can unload to raise money anyways, he doesnt need to raise AMC shares as of yet. Also, Adam wouldnt tank his own APE stock, he could put out 50-100 million.

Also, if Shytadel does buy up the float they can short the crap out of APE, but its already going to be some 18-20 percent shorted off the back, if they short it and drive the price down again we can also gobble it up and create another short squeeze minus the synthetics AMC has.

I dunno, this is really interesting times we will see what tricks they pull.
 
ValiantThor08 said:
Okau, I was looking at the wrong ticker. Looking at a Regal Entertainment ticker showing 22 dollars
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If we are looking at the same thing, "RGC" its still up showing on WeBull but delisted in 2018. Probably delisted when Cinemark purchased it. They has a pretty big run up from november to december 2017, maybe people were gobbling it up when Cinemark was rumored to purchase it??? Just a wild guess, no research on my part but something happened.
 
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According to this, I should have APE Monday. Speculation: what if Citadel drives APE up very high to get majority of retail to sell, so that they buy, and then have most of the votes. Then they vote for true AMC dilution.
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Interesting idea. As long as I get paid...
 
ValiantThor08 said:
Maybe AA has a plan. I mean, he has to. He claims APE is the pounce on the shorts. If that’s the case, he may know something we all don’t. Why call something a pounce on the shorts if it ends up helping the shorts lol.
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I have to believe this as well. This "pounce" isn't a pounce of it doesn't push a squeeze.
 
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