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Muscle Soreness Supplements?

TommyTuffGuy

TommyTuffGuy

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Probably a REALLY easy post to respond to, but what do you guys use for muscle soreness after workouts?

Any good recommendations? I didn't used to get this sore but I'm getting up there in age, any suggestions would be helpful!

Thanks again.
 
Muscle soreness is good. It is a sign of stress, and growth. Only bad if it excessive, and lasts many days. I hate not experiencing some form of muscle soreness.
 
7-10g of taurine prior to workout and 7-10g post workout.
5g creatine post workout
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Mass Pro Synthagen

The best recovery supplement hands down!
 
Maybe HMB or HICA. Possibly BCAA/EAA's, but definitely proper protein intake, sleep, rest and hitting your daily calorie intake. Stretching may help as well.

Also, I may have read doing some light work in between training days may help recovery. Not exactly sure where this came from or how true.
 
I’ve been taking Growth Factor XT and sleeping the whole night thru. It seems to be helping with soreness. Proper protein intake should help as well.
 
stopstalking said:
Proper protein intake should help as well.
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Like he said making sure your diet is on point and your feeding you body enough calories and intaking enough water to recover. An Epicatechin product always helps me recover faster it seems.
 
HICA
tart cherry
CBD
 
Indica cannabis - for relaxation

If there were a CBD + tiger balm type of topical that could be worth a try.

What ever happened to Tomatidine paired with UA (ursolic acid), or were these just hyped up well wishes ?
 
scoooter said:
Indica cannabis - for relaxation

If there were a CBD + tiger balm type of topical that could be worth a try.

What ever happened to Tomatidine paired with UA (ursolic acid), or were these just hyped up well wishes ?
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I rica works pretty well.

There is a great topical cbd product done in salvo which works very well.
 
Tart Cherry is good stuff. I like to add SNS Taurine, and SNS Leucine around my workout. SNS creatine HCL is a staple of mine and of course make sure you’re getting in enough protein!
 
I personally find CBD And tart cherry the best thing for me. 30mg of CBD at night and I wake up a new man.
 
Neither kratom nor tianeptine should be taken daily though, so while they may help if you’re particularly sore on occasion, I wouldn’t rely on them daily/regularly for muscle soreness like you could with HICA/LCLT/etc.
 
Staples: Proper protein intake, BCAA's/EAA's pre & intra, and Creatine HCI &/or Magnesium Creatine Chelate, Epi-Plex
(I consider Epi-Plex a staple for me because it helps my endurance and endurance is something I struggle with a lot bc of a medical issue).

HICA & Tart Cherry

I've been really curious about ActiGin and wanting to try that. AstraGin gets plenty of attention for its absorption enhancement benefits but ActiGin looks interesting for endurance and recovery.
 
Optimal sleep (6-8hr depending on your current schedule)
Sufficient calories
Extreme stretching post workout (see Dante ~ Doggcrapp stretching methods)

...Then, possibly

SNS GFXT (enhances sleep)
5g creatine mono or 3g MCC (preference here)
Tart Cherry

Active recovery helps A LOT as well.
 
stopstalking said:
I’ve been taking Growth Factor XT and sleeping the whole night thru. It seems to be helping with soreness. Proper protein intake should help as well.
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tyga tyga said:
Optimal sleep (6-8hr depending on your current schedule)
Sufficient calories
Extreme stretching post workout (see Dante ~ Doggcrapp stretching methods)

...Then, possibly

SNS GFXT (enhances sleep)
5g creatine mono or 3g MCC (preference here)
Tart Cherry

Active recovery helps A LOT as well.
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I agree on Growth Factor XT as well. We get a lot of reports of improved recovery and decreased soreness with Growth Factor XT. I don't think to mention it sometimes when talking about recovery because its a staple supplement to me and has been forever. I don't have enough hours in the day to get enough sleep and find Growth Factor XT excellent for making sure that even though I don't get enough hours of sleep, the sleep that I do get is great quality sleep.
 
Resolve10 said:
The actigin does look intriguing but I haven’t been able to find any to test out (for a decent price) or that isn’t kind of sprinkled into a large formula.
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Same here. The studies look great. So far the only places I've seen it used that I can remember are prop blends though. From the reading I've done, it looks like it would stack great with HICA and Tart Cherry.
 
aaronuconn said:
3g LCLT
2g Taurine
1.5g HICA
600mg Ashwagandha (as KSM-66)
480mg Tart Cherry

Would be relatively cheap.
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I'd also like to add 400 mg lemon verbena (as Recoverben) to this stack.

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Background

Exhaustive exercise causes muscle damage accompanied by oxidative stress and inflammation leading to muscle fatigue and muscle soreness. Lemon verbena leaves, commonly used as tea and refreshing beverage, demonstrated antioxidant and anti-inflammatory properties. The aim of this study was to investigate the effects of a proprietary lemon verbena extract (Recoverben®) on muscle strength and recovery after exhaustive exercise in comparison to a placebo product.

Methods

The study was performed as a randomized, placebo-controlled, double-blind study with parallel design. Forty-four healthy males and females, which were 22–50 years old and active in sports, were randomized to 400 mg lemon verbena extract once daily or placebo. The 15 days intervention was divided into 10 days supplementation prior to the exhaustive exercise day (intensive jump-protocol), one day during the test and four days after. Muscle strength (MVC), muscle damage (CK), oxidative stress (GPx), inflammation (IL6) and volunteer-reported muscle soreness intensity were assessed pre and post exercise.

Results

Participants in the lemon verbena group benefited from less muscle damage as well as faster and full recovery. Compared to placebo, lemon verbena extract receiving participants had significantly less exercise-related loss of muscle strength (p = 0.0311) over all timepoints, improved glutathione peroxidase activity by trend (p = 0.0681) and less movement induced pain (p = 0.0788) by trend. Creatine kinase and IL-6 didn’t show significant discrimmination between groups.

Conclusion

Lemon verbena extract (Recoverben®) has been shown to be a safe and well-tolerated natural sports ingredient, by reducing muscle damage after exhaustive exercise.
 
red light therapy

I have the flashlight type RLT and using it for about 20 min per day. 660nm watt red light
 
well, i've tried everything. tart cherry juice, mass pro synthagen, aftershock recovery protein, watermelon juice and fit aid recovery varieties. nothing seems to alleviate the recurring pain in my quads primarily. and this is on top of staying in the sauna post workout. i'm considering adding post jym to the mix but i doubt it'll help much...

do you guys have any ideas?

i really could use your expertise here....
 
gymgurus said:
well, i've tried everything. tart cherry juice, mass pro synthagen, aftershock recovery protein, watermelon juice and fit aid recovery varieties. nothing seems to alleviate the recurring pain in my quads primarily. and this is on top of staying in the sauna post workout. i'm considering adding post jym to the mix but i doubt it'll help much...

do you guys have any ideas?

i really could your expertise here....
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i will suggest that what your trying to obtain may not be able to be found in a supplement (or a supplement can only help a little bit) and that issue is related to what movements you are doing or not doing (I.e. exercise selection, order of exercises, intensity, recovery movements, addressing weak points etc...).
 
gymgurus said:
well, i've tried everything. tart cherry juice, mass pro synthagen, aftershock recovery protein, watermelon juice and fit aid recovery varieties. nothing seems to alleviate the recurring pain in my quads primarily. and this is on top of staying in the sauna post workout. i'm considering adding post jym to the mix but i doubt it'll help much...

do you guys have any ideas?

i really could use your expertise here....
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Is this acute muscle soreness from training? If so, how many days per week are you training quads? For me, if I was to do legs once a week, I’m sure I would be quite sore for a couple days after leg workouts, but doing legs 2 to 3 times per week (and spreading the volume out accordingly) helps a lot
 
gymgurus said:
well, i've tried everything. tart cherry juice, mass pro synthagen, aftershock recovery protein, watermelon juice and fit aid recovery varieties. nothing seems to alleviate the recurring pain in my quads primarily. and this is on top of staying in the sauna post workout. i'm considering adding post jym to the mix but i doubt it'll help much...

do you guys have any ideas?

i really could use your expertise here....
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Have you tried Phosphatidic Acid?
 
gymgurus said:
no, but it looks pretty expensive. i would be willing to purchase it if it's effective...
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We will be launching SNS Phosphatidic Acid XT soon and it will contain Phosphatidic Acid at the correct dosage (a lot of brands don't use the clinically studied dosage due to cost) along with several more ingredients that may help with your issue. Being that it will have PA + more ingredients and should be available pretty soon, you may want to consider waiting on that one as far as price being a major concern.
 
gymgurus said:
well, i've tried everything. tart cherry juice, mass pro synthagen, aftershock recovery protein, watermelon juice and fit aid recovery varieties. nothing seems to alleviate the recurring pain in my quads primarily. and this is on top of staying in the sauna post workout. i'm considering adding post jym to the mix but i doubt it'll help much...

do you guys have any ideas?

i really could use your expertise here....
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gymgurus said:
just your normal leg workout...
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There could be and probably are a variety of different factors contributing to your issue.

You said that the issue is primarily in your quads - by primarily do you mean only there or do other body-parts get what you would consider abnormally sore as well? How long as this been going on for? Has it always been like this or just started out of nowhere?

I'm going to throw out a few ideas, some of which are outside of the box type ideas. I have an autoimmune condition that makes me super sore when there are certain other factors in play.
  • Post workout and intra-workout nutrition are very important to me to help alleviate soreness. I do EAA's starting 15 minutes before training and sipped throughout along with 40 to 50 grams of whey immediately post workout. Also, depending on my goals at the time, I do 25 to 30 grams of Highly Branched Cyclic Dextrin post workout with my whey shake. It really helps my recovery when training heavy.
  • If it is only quad related, I would suggest changing up some exercises to see if there's a particular one that may not be agreeing with your body. I'll use me for example - I know and agree that Barbell squats are one of the best leg exercises - for everyone except me bc even with perfect form it wrecks the ligaments going into my knee from my quads.
  • If it is only quad related, CEL just launched Api-Plex and it was very interesting that in studies that Apigenin was shown to increase muscle growth in quads - so it may also help with recovery to those muscles. Here is a link to the thread and the write up is super in depth to read over: https://anabolicminds.com/community...mg-apigenin-per-capsule-available-now.329532/
I had teased about a product in another thread just earlier today that there will be a new product coming out within the next week that is designed specifically for muscle recovery and to help alleviate soreness. That sounds like it may be of interest to you. If you want to catch the release of that one, subscribe to this thread bc the launch will be posted in it:
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