Hyde’s Strength Odyssey

Hyde said:
Not monster minis, micro minis. I use EFS bands. Colors are different on all but Blue I think, but progression is the same:
-micro
-mini
-monster
-light
-average
-strong



I will be adding calories, as you can’t make something from nothing, but it’s not regulated. At this point I’m eating whatever - that’s what lead to my best total ever. Lots of orals and force-feeding.

I stopped any creatine mono use before starting the Trest actually. It’s just too useless with my gut; I just continually crap it out and never adapt so it’s not really worth risking losing nutrients over to me. Wife found the same to be true. Plus I am going to be getting too strong too fast as it is during this period so the last thing I want is more horsepower; I need to keep the reigns pulled back.



Good reminder; I have found Equiblock can mask just about anything. I don’t think this is something worth pushing through for now, but it’s useful for main work if necessary IMO.

Don’t hold your pecker when you go to the bathroom while using it!!!
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Ahhhh yes. Monster and micro. I can’t spell or read good either sometimes
 
Day 3 of Drol/Var/Yk/MK

Ate right around 5,000 calories yesterday and woke up at 258.0 again, although I did weigh in 2 hours later in the morning today.

Going to shoot for a roughly similar total today and see if there’s any change tomorrow before pushing harder. So far, no sides (beyond waking up starving at 2:30am from Mk, but I didn’t eat then so as not to throw off the morning weighin).

Also, I did double my TUDCA to 500mg, and added 500mg Berberine at bedtime starting day 1.
 
Something I like to help with blood pressure is Carditone by Ayush Herbs, it really helps especially on a cycle. But you’ve probably already checked that one out, as much as your up to date on health.
 
Hear the new Lamb of God track? It goes in \m/

Nice training brother. I wish I could eat 5k calories and not be a fat piece of sh!t haha.
 
Hyde said:
Day 3 of Drol/Var/Yk/MK

Ate right around 5,000 calories yesterday and woke up at 258.0 again, although I did weigh in 2 hours later in the morning today.

Going to shoot for a roughly similar total today and see if there’s any change tomorrow before pushing harder. So far, no sides (beyond waking up starving at 2:30am from Mk, but I didn’t eat then so as not to throw off the morning weighin).

Also, I did double my TUDCA to 500mg, and added 500mg Berberine at bedtime starting day 1.
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🤣 I smashed pizza at 1:30 am due to crippling MK munchies as well. I could not fight the urge and I tried hard damnit
 
gphagan1 said:
Something I like to help with blood pressure is Carditone by Ayush Herbs, it really helps especially on a cycle. But you’ve probably already checked that one out, as much as your up to date on health.
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Yeah it’s the best natural product out there. Not nearly as good as Telmisartan, but it’s what I tell people to get if they can’t get an ARB.

I planned to double my Telly to 80mg if necessary, but so far the usual 40 has felt fine. Probably because it is peaking right when my Anadrol is in the morning, so it covers it well. I should take my levels soon though because they’re bound to be impacted some.

Anthony_ said:
Hear the new Lamb of God track? It goes in \m/

Nice training brother. I wish I could eat 5k calories and not be a fat piece of sh!t haha.
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No but I did see they had one just released!

Well who’s to say I’m not a fat piece of crap?!

SkRaw85 said:
🤣 I smashed pizza at 1:30 am due to crippling MK munchies as well. I could not fight the urge and I tried hard damnit
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Hey right now I would much rather keep the hunger going than battle force feeding. Hunger I can deal with!
 
I'm always hungry, even when I'm feeling stuffed !!
 
Hyde said:
Yeah it’s the best natural product out there. Not nearly as good as Telmisartan, but it’s what I tell people to get if they can’t get an ARB.

I planned to double my Telly to 80mg if necessary, but so far the usual 40 has felt fine. Probably because it is peaking right when my Anadrol is in the morning, so it covers it well. I should take my levels soon though because they’re bound to be impacted some.



No but I did see they had one just released!

Well who’s to say I’m not a fat piece of crap?!



Hey right now I would much rather keep the hunger going than battle force feeding. Hunger I can deal with!
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TELMISARTAN ftw. Great progress so far Sir!
 
I need to get some Telmisartan. I’ve heard from a few guys it’s the best and safest, and that it may have other benefits besides just bp control. Always good to have something for blood pressure just in case. I’ve used Carditone with good success, but good to have something stronger if needed.
And Hyde the only reason I brought up blood pressure was the increased calories and orals seem to always have an effect on bp. I figured you were covered, but you never know.
 
gphagan1 said:
I need to get some Telmisartan. I’ve heard from a few guys it’s the best and safest, and that it may have other benefits besides just bp control. Always good to have something for blood pressure just in case. I’ve used Carditone with good success, but good to have something stronger if needed.
And Hyde the only reason I brought up blood pressure was the increased calories and orals seem to always have an effect on bp. I figured you were covered, but you never know.
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TELMISARTAN should always be used when we are on PEDs. Good point brother.
 
Rocket3015 said:
I have Cozaar ?? Any big differences ??
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It’s just a bit weaker. 50mg Losartan is like 40mg Telmisartan, and Losartan users need 100mg more often than Telmi users need 80mg. The final 6 hours of the daily dose is a bit less effective than Telmisartan.

It does most all of the positives to protect the kidneys from AAS the way Telmisartan does. It’s a very good ARB option if you can get it prescribed.

gphagan1 said:
I need to get some Telmisartan. I’ve heard from a few guys it’s the best and safest, and that it may have other benefits besides just bp control. Always good to have something for blood pressure just in case. I’ve used Carditone with good success, but good to have something stronger if needed.
And Hyde the only reason I brought up blood pressure was the increased calories and orals seem to always have an effect on bp. I figured you were covered, but you never know.
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I actually did notice my bp higher yesterday, so I bumped it to 80mg last night for this oral push.
 
6/29/22
BW 261.2

5 min walk

Cable Curls,Shrugs, Pressdown circuit
33 4x25
55,66,77,88x25
33,44 2x25 each

Comp Bench
45x15
95,135,185,235,275,295x5
315x3 paused

Spoto Press
275x5,5,8 PR

V-grip Chins
8,8,7,6

Reverse Pec Deck
80,130x6
170x12,12,10

Pec Deck
170,190x20
210x16

Big 3lb spike in bodyweight; went up to about 5,500 calories yesterday. Very happy with bench today. On the lousy commercial benches & with no lift-off, the paused 315 triple was very smooth and submaximal. Can definitely feel the extra weight on chin-ups! Not sure I’ve ever done any weighing over 260.

A guy came up and gave me knuckles after he watched me rep the stack on pec flyes
 
Hyde said:
6/29/22
BW 261.2

5 min walk

Cable Curls,Shrugs, Pressdown circuit
33 4x25
55,66,77,88x25
33,44 2x25 each

Comp Bench
45x15
95,135,185,235,275,295x5
315x3 paused

Spoto Press
275x5,5,8 PR

V-grip Chins
8,8,7,6

Reverse Pec Deck
80,130x6
170x12,12,10

Pec Deck
170,190x20
210x16

Big 3lb spike in bodyweight; went up to about 5,500 calories yesterday. Very happy with bench today. On the lousy commercial benches & with no lift-off, the paused 315 triple was very smooth and submaximal. Can definitely feel the extra weight on chin-ups! Not sure I’ve ever done any weighing over 260.

A guy came up and gave me knuckles after he watched me rep the stack on pec flyes
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Looks like the plan is working…..body weight up, smooth high volume workout. Impressive doing sets of chin ups at 260.
 
Your pull ups are always impressive. I gain 5-10lbs and my reps drop quickly.
 
MrKleen73 said:
Your pull ups are always impressive. I gain 5-10lbs and my reps drop quickly.
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I have pulled this kind of total weight before, but it does feel different when it’s actually part of your body lol. I haven’t decided if it’s easier or harder!
 
Hyde said:
It’s just a bit weaker. 50mg Losartan is like 40mg Telmisartan, and Losartan users need 100mg more often than Telmi users need 80mg. The final 6 hours of the daily dose is a bit less effective than Telmisartan.

It does most all of the positives to protect the kidneys from AAS the way Telmisartan does. It’s a very good ARB option if you can get it prescribed.



I actually did notice my bp higher yesterday, so I bumped it to 80mg last night for this oral push.
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Thank you for the info, do you think I would be smart to ask my D. to change my script tp Telmisartan ?
 
Rocket3015 said:
Thank you for the info, do you think I would be smart to ask my D. to change my script tp Telmisartan ?
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I wouldn’t. It will be very comparable in net effect, and as long as your numbers are good with the Losartan therapy that’s the most important part.

If you were someone using serious amounts of gear for years to come, I would consider it because it’s a bit better at managing some of the negative kidney interactions that AAS otherwise bring, but you are at a point in your life where your health couldn’t handle those kinds of doses anyway - so it’s a non-issue.
 
Day 5 of Oral Push
BW 262.2

Up another lb, so Chinese buffet therapy is working well. As mentioned, doubled Telmisartan to 80mg. Also added a serving of GDA (that has 500mg Berberine HCL) to one meal per day, in addition to the 500mg Berberine at bedtime.

Signed up for the state championship meet on September 11th - I’ll be 10 weeks out on Sunday!
 
Hyde said:
I wouldn’t. It will be very comparable in net effect, and as long as your numbers are good with the Losartan therapy that’s the most important part.

If you were someone using serious amounts of gear for years to come, I would consider it because it’s a bit better at managing some of the negative kidney interactions that AAS otherwise bring, but you are at a point in your life where your health couldn’t handle those kinds of doses anyway - so it’s a non-issue.
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Thank you!
 
Hyde said:
Signed up for the state championship meet on September 11th - I’ll be 10 weeks out on Sunday!
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That sounds exciting!! The Hyde Fan Club will be routing for you!!
 
Hyde said:
Day 5 of Oral Push
BW 262.2

Up another lb, so Chinese buffet therapy is working well. As mentioned, doubled Telmisartan to 80mg. Also added a serving of GDA (that has 500mg Berberine HCL) to one meal per day, in addition to the 500mg Berberine at bedtime.

Signed up for the state championship meet on September 11th - I’ll be 10 weeks out on Sunday!
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Nice! What’s training/cycle protocol going to look like for the next 10 weeks? Holding the course?
 
SkRaw85 said:
Nice! What’s training/cycle protocol going to look like for the next 10 weeks? Holding the course?
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I think so. I have been playing with some template changes Burley Hawk said in article he felt was useful for himself as a raw lifter. Having Monday always be a deadlift-focused day so it gets equal attention to squat, alternating a repetition effort with DE weekly for squat day, rotating in RE instead of ME once a month on both upper & lower to give the body a bit of a break & acquire more volume. I also lowered my boxsquat height 2”.

Last meet I just felt like I had zero idea where my squat was, or how to position my body in a free squat with no training in it. I like the stuff Wenning & Hoff were saying about hitting a free squat once a month. That’s what Burley did too.
 
Hyde said:
I think so. I have been playing with some template changes Burley Hawk said in article he felt was useful for himself as a raw lifter. Having Monday always be a deadlift-focused day so it gets equal attention to squat, alternating a repetition effort with DE weekly for squat day, rotating in RE instead of ME once a month on both upper & lower to give the body a bit of a break & acquire more volume. I also lowered my boxsquat height 2”.

Last meet I just felt like I had zero idea where my squat was, or how to position my body in a free squat with no training in it. I like the stuff Wenning & Hoff were saying about hitting a free squat once a month. That’s what Burley did too.
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Sounds like a good plan. Now that I think about it, you kinda look like Burley Hawk. Any relation? 🤣
 
Fog Horn Leg Horn, my favorite cartoon !!
 
6/30/22
BW 262.2

5 min walk
Bird Dogs
Side Planks

BW Squats, Back Extensions, Cable Pullthrus
2x25 each

Frontsquat
45x5
135,225,275,315x3
+belt
345x3

Legpress
+360,450,540x25

GHR
3x10
1x21 PR

Good Girl Machine
70,110,130x15

Acquiring mass successfully: I am 10lbs heavier than 2 weeks ago on this day.

Pinned 100mg TNE a couple hours or so preWO. I won’t be buying any more. It doesn’t really seem to increase performance noticeably, just raise my heart rate & make me the sweatiest guy in the gym. I wanted 365x3, but something told me to shut it down & move on. Did take a lifetime best on the GHR at this difficulty setting, out of nowhere.
 
Good Girl Machine
70,110,130x15

Hyde, I love that you refer to the abductor and adductor machine as bad and good girl. I asked Ben to use those terms when we discuss programming. It's hilarious but he started doing it. My aductors are underdeveloped compared with my abductor muscles. I started using the good girl machine and those muscles were sore from 3 sets with moderate weight! My wife noticed I out toe a lot and said the imbalance causes this. Crazy my squat and deadlift are pretty high but something like a few sets of good girls wreck my legs!
 
BennyMagoo79 said:
Wtf is the Good Girl Machine?!?
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Adductor is good girl (closing your legs), abductor is bad girl (spread em wide). It’s terminology that’s been synonymous with that machine forever. Lots of folks forgets which proper term means what, but everyone understands which one you want them to do when you say good girl & bad girl.

f4iguy said:
Good Girl Machine
70,110,130x15

Hyde, I love that you refer to the abductor and adductor machine as bad and good girl. I asked Ben to use those terms when we discuss programming. It's hilarious but he started doing it. My aductors are underdeveloped compared with my abductor muscles. I started using the good girl machine and those muscles were sore from 3 sets with moderate weight! My wife noticed I out toe a lot and said the imbalance causes this. Crazy my squat and deadlift are pretty high but something like a few sets of good girls wreck my legs!
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If someone is very close stance I don’t think they’re necessary inherently, but for anyone with any width in their squat stance and especially if they squat wide or pull sumo, I think they’re imperative to maintain balance. I have strained my adductor before on wide Boxsquats years back because my adductors weren’t up to countering the intense abduction a wide push demands.

They’re also a terrific way to build more total thigh circumference on the leg, and can make or break a frontal bodybuilding pose. And they take very little energy & time to hit hard, as long as you can suffer the pump.
 
I definitely agree that adductors are an easy way to increase size. Mine are starting to fill back up all of my pants now that I am not only doing them but increasing my squatting and peppering in sumo pulls. They are back to touching halfway down my thighs now. Soon I won't have any hair on the inside of my legs again. #bigthighproblems!
 
Hyde said:
Adductor is good girl (closing your legs), abductor is bad girl (spread em wide). It’s terminology that’s been synonymous with that machine forever. Lots of folks forgets which proper term means what, but everyone understands which one you want them to do when you say good girl & bad girl.



If someone is very close stance I don’t think they’re necessary inherently, but for anyone with any width in their squat stance and especially if they squat wide or pull sumo, I think they’re imperative to maintain balance. I have strained my adductor before on wide Boxsquats years back because my adductors weren’t up to countering the intense abduction a wide push demands.

They’re also a terrific way to build more total thigh circumference on the leg, and can make or break a frontal bodybuilding pose. And they take very little energy & time to hit hard, as long as you can suffer the pump.
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Lol right.
 
Hyde said:
Day 5 of Oral Push
BW 262.2

Up another lb, so Chinese buffet therapy is working well. As mentioned, doubled Telmisartan to 80mg. Also added a serving of GDA (that has 500mg Berberine HCL) to one meal per day, in addition to the 500mg Berberine at bedtime.

Signed up for the state championship meet on September 11th - I’ll be 10 weeks out on Sunday!
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Awesome…..looks like you’re timing your bulk at about the right time. That extra body weight will really help you hit those big numbers, and you should have plenty of time to settle in and adjust, once you reach your body weight goal.
Keep on killing it brother….💪🔥👍
 
Hyde said:
Adductor is good girl (closing your legs), abductor is bad girl (spread em wide).
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I have Never used either one of these machine, but the next time I am at Planet Fitness I will give them a try.
 
Rocket3015 said:
I have Never used either one of these machine, but the next time I am at Planet Fitness I will give them a try.
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Always start super light. Even when I have been able to rep the entire stack on some machines, you need to work up because those muscles can be extremely prone to pulling for most men (who don’t frequently practice ballet or the like). Keep to 10 reps minimum, short rests, and focus on the contraction is my crash course brovice.

Begin the first rep progressively - roll into the throttle like you’re trying to baby your rear end at the strip!
 
Day 7 of Oral Push
BW 264.8

Was kinda disappointed yesterday, as I had dropped to 261.2 after a morning constitutional & coffee. Appetite is definitely waning from the Anadrol (and just overeating in general) which is starting to make things tough, but no acid reflux or stomach distress yet thankfully, beyond the periodic bloating & bowel movements you’d expect. Put the pedal down hard as practical yesterday and was happy to see a good bloat manifested. Battling some lethargy, as expected.
 
Hyde said:
Day 7 of Oral Push
BW 264.8

Was kinda disappointed yesterday, as I had dropped to 261.2 after a morning constitutional & coffee. Appetite is definitely waning from the Anadrol (and just overeating in general) which is starting to make things tough, but no acid reflux or stomach distress yet thankfully, beyond the periodic bloating & bowel movements you’d expect. Put the pedal down hard as practical yesterday and was happy to see a good bloat manifested. Battling some lethargy, as expected.
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Oral Push was a good subtitle for these days, because you knew you would reach that point where you had to push through. Your system is processing so much right now that your in overdrive.🔥
 
Hyde said:
Always start super light. Even when I have been able to rep the entire stack on some machines, you need to work up because those muscles can be extremely prone to pulling for most men (who don’t frequently practice ballet or the like). Keep to 10 reps minimum, short rests, and focus on the contraction is my crash course brovice.

Begin the first rep progressively - roll into the throttle like you’re trying to baby your rear end at the strip!
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Your advice is good but a little late, walking is a chore right now!

I have NEVER babied a car at the strip !!

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I always learn a lot in here with your detailed regimens
 
gphagan1 said:
Oral Push was a good subtitle for these days, because you knew you would reach that point where you had to push through. Your system is processing so much right now that your in overdrive.
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Definitely feels like I’m breaking some all-time size barriers. I’ll be glad when it’s time to pull back and tighten up a tad, but I want to see 270 on the scale first! Anything over 267.0 will be a lifetime high.

Rocket3015 said:
Your advice is good but a little late, walking is a chore right now!

I have NEVER babied a car at the strip !!

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Yeah it really hurts getting out of the car right now - tight in the loins!

That is a terrific shot!

RegisterJr said:
I always learn a lot in here with your detailed regimens
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I never know what is and isn’t useful/interesting, so glad to hear something was helpful
 
Hyde said:
Adductor is good girl (closing your legs), Abductor is bad girl (spread em wide). It’s terminology that’s been synonymous with that machine forever. Lots of folks forgets which proper term means what, but everyone understands which one you want them to do when you say good girl & bad girl.



If someone is very close stance I don’t think they’re necessary inherently, but for anyone with any width in their squat stance and especially if they squat wide or pull sumo, I think they’re imperative to maintain balance. I have strained my adductor before on wide Boxsquats years back because my adductors weren’t up to countering the intense abduction a wide push demands.

They’re also a terrific way to build more total thigh circumference on the leg, and can make or break a frontal bodybuilding pose. And they take very little energy & time to hit hard, as long as you can suffer the pump.
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Anyone who has never tried these movements give them a try, they are very humbling. Hint start light !!
 
Rocket3015 said:
Anyone who has never tried these movements give them a try, they are very humbling. Hint start light !!
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Anyone doing these at home with something other than the designed machines? Specifically for good girls, as bands are probably fine for bad girls.
 
RegisterJr said:
Anyone doing these at home with something other than the designed machines? Specifically for good girls, as bands are probably fine for bad girls.
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I have tried a couple times with bands and playing with seating and I absolutely cannot replicate it that way. It’s not necessary, but it’s a fun easy movement that can have some benefits.
 
7/3/22
BW 265.2

5 min walk

Cable Rope Facepulls, Tri Pressdown, Low Row
44/38/71 4x25 each

Swissbar Dynamic Bench
vs single Monster Miniband run under the bench
45x10
95,135x3
185 5x3 mid, 5x3 wide

Swissbar Seated OHP from chin
45,95x10
145,175,195x5
215x2

Low Incline Williams Extensions
30,40,50,60x10 PR

Triceps getting stronger!!!
 
7/4/22
BW 265.2

6 min walk
Bird Dogs
Side Planks

GHR
15,12

Yukon Bar Good Morning
65x10
155,205x5
+belt
245,275,305,335,375,415x5 PR

Reverse Hyper
210 3x12, 1x24 PR

alt w/ Yoke Pull-ups
6,6,6,8

Now today was a great mother-effin’ PR; I don’t think my erectors have ever been this strong. I did 405x3 concentric only with a straight bar (which was set lower bar for better leverage) a few months back, and today did 415x5 traditional, with the bar placed higher up. Love this Yukon bar!
 
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