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Sure, I would say anything is possible. Likely? Let's just say this - this isn't going to kill you like a heart attack where you feel fine and then you drop dead suddenly with no warning (I don't think). I would say feeling good is something to feel good about. Just keep monitoring and relax.

Good post - although I will be seen as providing conflicting posts here since I'm a big fan of 10,000 iu of Vitamin D per day, and large Vitamin C doses. As far as NAC - if I were to recommend a dose it would be along the lines of 500 mg 3-4 times a day for something like this.
Thanks man. "Relax and keep monitoring." The relax part...wayyyyy too hard. lol
As far as the NAC goes, wouldn't that only really be necessary with lung symptoms? Or are you saying no matter what?

Regarding quercetin:

 
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I am not an expert on this of course, but from my limited experience with reading bloodwork and such, here are my thoughts.

It is hard to really say much when given a single value without seeing ALL of the bloodwork. A lot of these things don't happen in a vacuum and you can generalize what each value represents but it is all part of a bigger picture and a single reading can easily be taken out of context.

If everything else is inline and you had a complete CBC, etc. - then a slightly low WBC is not a concern off the bat to me.

Do you know your neutrophils, lymphocytes, and actual platelet counts?

I would be more concerned with elevated WBC during covid. It's my understanding that a cytokine storm is ultimately what causes death in Covid, and a cytokine storm will look a lot like sepsis with severely elevated WBC.

As for the platelets - this seems to be common in Covid patients and was really the problem a few months back when everyone was up in arms about strokes from the vaccines - increased cytokines will increase the destruction of platelets. If you have a stroke and low platelets, and doctors don't know this - they will give you a blood thinner for the stroke and cause an issue. This is pretty rare though and low on the concern list...especially if they are mildly suppressed. IMO at least.

The following paragraph from this study is interesting:

Patients with COVID-19 pneumonia can present with blood coagulation abnormalities, commonly manifested by elevated levels of fibrinogen and D-dimer in tandem with mild thrombocytopenia.115,116 Rise in D-dimer levels has been linked to poorer prognosis and higher mortality rate.117,118 D-dimer levels, lung inflammation, and pulmonary hemorrhage are influenced by neutrophil elastase activity.119,120 As such, suppression of elastase and neutrophil activation may be helpful in hemorrhagic or thrombotic complications associated with COVID-19.121 N-acetylcysteine has been found to inhibit release of elastase and modulate neutrophil activity when used at high concentrations.122 In neutrophilic airway inflammation in cystic fibrosis, high-dose N-acetylcysteine decreases the neutrophil burden in airways and the number of airway neutrophils actively releasing elastase-rich granules.123 Treatment with N-acetylcysteine can also attenuate lung emphysema induced by elastase as depicted in amelioration of airspace enlargements, partial recovery of expiratory flows, and normalization of lung collagen content.124 This evidence sheds light on the possible role of N-acetylcysteine on mediating inflammation-mediated lung injury and abnormalities of blood coagulation in severe COVID-19.
I would maybe see if you can convince your doctors to test fibrinogen levels and this may be a way for NAC to be a benefit. I personally think NAC and Vitamin D are probably your best bet. I'm not really sold on the quercetin stuff.

Also, they are hard to find but there are studies that suggest Vitamin D may reduce "tolerance" to corticosteroids like prednisone or cortisol. This may mean that, since you've maintained sufficient levels, you are having a strong/appropriate response to a small amount of extra steroid hormones in your system, which means your body doesn't have to go nuts and release a bunch extra to get the effect - and extra tends to increase side effects - so you you've minimized some sides from the endogenous response. If you have an increase in immature white blood cells as well, this would indicate that you are losing them more quickly due to the infection; but also making more rapidly which is an appropriate response and this effect of Vitamin D would facilitate the process I believe.

All in all, I'm grasping at straws because I don't have a complete picture but I don't think there is any real reason for concern. Keep monitoring.
Great points. I should've got a copy of the lab work when I was there. I'll see if I can get it tomorrow.
 
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Thanks man. "Relax and keep monitoring." The relax part...wayyyyy too hard. lol
As far as the NAC goes, wouldn't that only really be necessary with lung symptoms? Or are you saying no matter what?

Regarding quercetin:

As far as the NAC - it seems to me that it inhibits the formation of cytokines to a degree, it is cellular and not lung specific. NAC is used as an inhalant because it acts as a mucolytic agent. Most doctors I come across see it as useful in some kidney imaging uses, and as an inhaled mucolytic and I am surprised by how many doctors I have come across that are u aware of its use as an anecdote to APAP poisoning. Blows my mind.

But NAC and Glutathione seem to play a complex role in modulating immunity.

As far as the quercetin - I am open to learning as you have taught me plenty, but you got any better studies?

The first study is conducted by employees of a company manufacturing a "special extract" of quercetin and the second study is a review of mostly in vitro studies of quercetin but dies lay out a plausible MOA to some extent.

I may be wrong on it. I don't know.
 
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nac is a precursor to glutathione which is produced in the liver. it's basically healthy liver function. I wonder if the conversion is taxing. I've heard you can get oral liposomal glutathione which absorbs well but I haven't tried it.
 
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I think you are both great specimens, but there may be a genetic component to things. there's some Gene that Asians tend to have that will fight mRNA viruses. that's one of the current theories on why japan is almost covid free right now
my wifes mother was a full blooded cherokee native American and her father was german...both of my parents were of german ancestry, well my mom still is-she is 87.
 
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fauci now says that anyone who disagrees with him, disagrees with science....
fauci-'I am science'

what a arrogant dickhead!!!
 
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I'm obsessed with liver restore by AA. injectable glutathione. hangovers pretty much don't exist anymore for me
What company is AA?
Is that 15g vitamin C all capsules or powder too?
I just take Ester-C 🙂. I should probably up my dose though..
of course things are going to get worse, much, much worse--the guy in charge belongs in a assisted living community...

and i am being nice-alzheimers/dementia is no joke, but biden should not be in the position of leader of the free world--in my very HONEST opinion.
There are no words for the sickening display of the Biden administration. Well, one word come to mind…evil!
i think it's totally STUPID to cancel international flights and issue do not travel warnings when there is another huge migrant CARAVAN heading towards the US and biden has no measures in place to stop it.

close the freaking border... and i mean close it, use the national guard like trump did, geez!!!

should have finished that freaking wall!!!
Yeah, it kind of defeats the purpose when you have open borders. It‘s not like we all don’t know Omicron will be here regardless, and probably already is.
 
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What company is AA?

I just take Ester-C 🙂. I should probably up my dose though..

There are no words for the sickening display of the Biden administration. Well, one word come to mind…evil!

Yeah, it kind of defeats the purpose when you have open borders. It‘s not like we all don’t know Omicron will be here regardless, and probably already is.
lol.....i am cancelling flights from africa to USA, but if you fly to mexico you can walk over the border.o_O
 
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i wonder how biden will blame unvaccinated if the vaccines don't protect against the omicron variant?

i am really tired of hearing that unvaccinated are responsible for high infection rates when being fully vaccinated doesn't prevent infection OR spreading of covid.
 
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Update here:
Tested positive for covid today. They also tested complete blood cell which found my WBCs were right below normal and platelets a little below normal. The doctor said they've been seeing that, but after googling a little, now I'm a bit freaked out as it can be an indicator of severe illness (but wouldn't I have far worse symptoms right now too?).

Apparently resveratrol can lower white blood cells and can be immunosuppressive as well at high enough doses, but maybe just 250mg is enough for me to do that? Should I stop taking the resveratrol? So it's anti-covid but also immunosuppressive...mind blown.

I am now taking quercetin so that should cover me too. They do have monoclonal antibodies. But I'm concerned with this...
Do mAbs have risks?
Therapeutic mAbs, typically administered by intravenous (IV) infusion, have been a valuable and generally safe treatment option for a variety of conditions for many years. However, they are also known to cause a range of side effects and reactions, which can be immediate or delayed. Serious adverse events associated with mAbs include infusion reactions, acute anaphylaxis, and serum sickness, as well as longer-term complications such as infections, cancer, autoimmune disease, and cardiotoxicity.

My plan was if I got any worse, I was going to get the monoclonal antibodies treatment. With this resveratrol revelation, I don't know. Other then a current panic attack because of that WBC, I continue to feel better.

Anyone have any thoughts?
Yeah, low WBC count is common in all the patients we have seen from the very beginning of the pandemic. Platelets aren’t really talked about so much as the major bio markers they trend are CRP, D-dimer, and ferritin.

If you qualify for monoclonal antibodies, I would highly suggest that you accept that therapy and try not to get so caught up in worse case scenario side effects. We all have to take some calculated risks with COVID, but one thing you should know is that you don’t want to be the next person that waits until things get much more complicated.

Either way, I trust that the odds will be in your favor. Get a pulse oximeter and keep us updated!
 
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Yeah, low WBC count is common in all the patients we have seen from the very beginning of the pandemic. Platelets aren’t really talked about so much as the major bio markers they trend are CRP, D-dimer, and ferritin.

If you qualify for monoclonal antibodies, I would highly suggest that you accept that therapy and try not to get so caught up in worse case scenario side effects. We all have to take some calculated risks with COVID, but one thing you should know is that you don’t want to be the next person that waits until things get much more complicated.

Either way, I trust that the odds will be in your favor. Get a pulse oximeter and keep us updated!
Thanks man. I hear you and am strongly considering and praying about it. It's hard to justify though because of my current update below. On the flip side, I don't want to be one of those that waited too long either...but I also know fear and anxiety can influence me. It's tough being me sometimes lol.

Update: As of last night and today, there are times with enough vitamin C I wouldn't know I was sick except for the body aches. The crazy hamstring tightness/aches is about gone. I have no fatigue or get out of breath (never did though either, maybe once but not even sure about that), nasal congestion comes and goes with vitamin c dosing, headache gone... last night was the first night my heart wasn't pounding and elevated all night either. Made sleeping easier lol. Still get hot and cold all night though which also seems to depend on vitamin c dosing. No fever but I haven't taken my temperature in the middle of the night when the hot/cold flashes happen. Haven't coughed up anything out of my chest since yesterday either. I've also never had any of the brain fog or brain issues I've seen commonly reported. If I wanted to do complex math, I still could.

I'll be starting zinc today too. The last few times I've taken zinc it gives me bizarre/out-of-it/brain fog feeling so I'm hoping that doesn't happen today.
 
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Thanks man. I hear you and am strongly considering and praying about it. It's hard to justify though because of my current update below. On the flip side, I don't want to be one of those that waited too long either...but I also know fear and anxiety can influence me. It's tough being me sometimes lol.

Update: As of last night and today, there are times with enough vitamin C I wouldn't know I was sick except for the body aches. The crazy hamstring tightness/aches is about gone. I have no fatigue or get out of breath (never did though either, maybe once but not even sure about that), nasal congestion comes and goes with vitamin c dosing, headache gone... last night was the first night my heart wasn't pounding and elevated all night either. Made sleeping easier lol. Still get hot and cold all night though which also seems to depend on vitamin c dosing. No fever but I haven't taken my temperature in the middle of the night when the hot/cold flashes happen. Haven't coughed up anything out of my chest since yesterday either. I've also never had any of the brain fog or brain issues I've seen commonly reported. If I wanted to do complex math, I still could.

I'll be starting zinc today too. The last few times I've taken zinc it gives me bizarre/out-of-it/brain fog feeling so I'm hoping that doesn't happen today.
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One other thing to note, every time I take my morning sublingual dhea, I feel even better. At this moment, my lower back is a little tight but that's it. I feel fine. And that lower back tightness happens every time I shave anyway. I know dhea isn't supposed to work immediately, but for the past 4 months of experimenting with it, I notice it instantly. As the day goes on, I'm sure I'll regress like usual as the mornings have always been the best, but still, the highs and the lows are both better. Praising God throughout the whole thing.
 
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I tested positive last Tuesday and was progressively getting worse by Friday, added in 40mg Telmisartan on the day and within hours noticed improvement…no fever or serious symptoms a few days later.

Although i was also fully vaccinated.

Sh1t works extremely well - no need to megadose it in mild settings.
How are you feeling now? When did you start showing symptoms?
 
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any of you watch the show Dopesick yet? Mom and dad finally talked me into starting it.
 
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Thanks man. I hear you and am strongly considering and praying about it. It's hard to justify though because of my current update below. On the flip side, I don't want to be one of those that waited too long either...but I also know fear and anxiety can influence me. It's tough being me sometimes lol.

Update: As of last night and today, there are times with enough vitamin C I wouldn't know I was sick except for the body aches. The crazy hamstring tightness/aches is about gone. I have no fatigue or get out of breath (never did though either, maybe once but not even sure about that), nasal congestion comes and goes with vitamin c dosing, headache gone... last night was the first night my heart wasn't pounding and elevated all night either. Made sleeping easier lol. Still get hot and cold all night though which also seems to depend on vitamin c dosing. No fever but I haven't taken my temperature in the middle of the night when the hot/cold flashes happen. Haven't coughed up anything out of my chest since yesterday either. I've also never had any of the brain fog or brain issues I've seen commonly reported. If I wanted to do complex math, I still could.

I'll be starting zinc today too. The last few times I've taken zinc it gives me bizarre/out-of-it/brain fog feeling so I'm hoping that doesn't happen today.
Good to hear man
 
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fucking biden, the resources are available to him to utilize the military like what trump did!!

impeach the bastard!!!
i guess @Warthog13 doesn't approve of biden utilizing all the resources at his his disposal since he down voted this post o_O
 
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One other thing to note, every time I take my morning sublingual dhea, I feel even better. At this moment, my lower back is a little tight but that's it. I feel fine. And that lower back tightness happens every time I shave anyway. I know dhea isn't supposed to work immediately, but for the past 4 months of experimenting with it, I notice it instantly. As the day goes on, I'm sure I'll regress like usual as the mornings have always been the best, but still, the highs and the lows are both better. Praising God throughout the whole thing.
GOD BLESS...never underestimate the power of prayer!!!🎚
 
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maybe he just cringed at the thought of Kamala being president
either way biden needs to go...the last thing this country needs at this time of multiple crises is a president with severely diminished capacity.
 
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Can you do this downvote on the app? I’ve been here on and off for years and am totally unaware lol
 
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Can you do this downvote on the app? I’ve been here on and off for years and am totally unaware lol
i only use laptop, don't know how people are able to text and do internet on phones, my fingers/thumbs are way to big...the up/down vote only shows up on certain threads usually when it involves a question---kind of surprised to see the up/down vote for this thread??? :unsure:
 
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Can you do this downvote on the app? I’ve been here on and off for years and am totally unaware lol
doesn't seem like it lol. I don't think the app is maintained (last update 2 years ago)

I still like it though. it also has the bug where new posts always give an error but post them anyways
 
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doesn't seem like it lol. I don't think the app is maintained (last update 2 years ago)

I still like it though. it also has the bug where new posts always give an error but post them anyways
it does that on my laptop also...after hitting 'post reply' i go to 'what's new' and my post almost always shows up there.
 
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That clip is amazing. I can't believe people eat that **** up.
i can...biden still has a 36% approval rating even though he clearly has diminished capacity.

i would bet that every single one of those 36% believe that everything fauci says is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
 
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Well, I wouldn't have thought resveratrol at 1 cap (250mg) would suppress immune function (and I'm not sure it has, just going by what I see).
Soz re-read my original post - was more referring to the big doses of things further recommended to you on top of what you were using (respect both posters but i disagree with them and so does any quality papers I have examined, if they exist that have touched on those suggestions)

Good to hear you are feeling relatively well!

I actually just tested negative this morning so 8 days from symptoms appearing to no further virus shedding (from nasal cavity anyways)
 
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Soz re-read my original post - was more referring to the big doses of things further recommended to you on top of what you were using (respect both posters but i disagree with them and so does any quality papers I have examined, if they exist that have touched on those suggestions)
I gotcha. Thanks for clarifying.
Good to hear you are feeling relatively well!

I actually just tested negative this morning so 8 days from symptoms appearing to no further virus shedding (from nasal cavity anyways)
Right on! Glad to hear your well. At what day did you have no symptoms? I can't really tell if you meant today you had no symptoms as well...
 
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I gotcha. Thanks for clarifying.

Right on! Glad to hear your well. At what day did you have no symptoms? I can't really tell if you meant today you had no symptoms as well...
By yesterday morning there was no more fever or any concerning symptoms, however today even with the negative test I still have a lack of smell or taste, but that is all really.

I am not sure if you have been vaccinated, but i imagine if you haven’t the timeline will be stretched out quite a bit to negative test and no symptoms.
 
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Finally had a chance to watch this...reasonably fair review IMO. It's no smoking gun and the study lacks in a lot of areas, but it seems like evidence that more work needs to be done for sure. It will be interesting to see more.

Soz re-read my original post - was more referring to the big doses of things further recommended to you on top of what you were using (respect both posters but i disagree with them and so does any quality papers I have examined, if they exist that have touched on those suggestions)

Good to hear you are feeling relatively well!

I actually just tested negative this morning so 8 days from symptoms appearing to no further virus shedding (from nasal cavity anyways)
Not sure if you are referring to me as far as the disagreement goes - if so then the respect is mutual and I am flattered! but I also want to clarify because I don't disagree with your statements at all; maybe just some nuance about some specific applications where I believe there is more nuance (like Vitamin D and Vitamin C). Yes, Vitamin C and high levels of anti-oxidant activity can become pro-oxidant - 100%. And people should be aware of this when making choices. And throwing a kitchen sink at things can become counter productive.

I would just rather see people taking 2-6 grams of Vitamin C per day than 60 mg and thinking they get plenty. The science is iffy - you've got good ground to stand on there - but it's not cut and dry IMO and in my own experience it works well.

I am glad that you both are feeling better!
 
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i can...biden still has a 36% approval rating even though he clearly has diminished capacity.

i would bet that every single one of those 36% believe that everything fauci says is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

I'm telling you guys. Jump on hulu tonight and watch the pilot for dopesick. it's about manipulating the FDA to provide approval on oxycontin. as you watch it, you'll see bizarre similarities to the world we are in today.

There are some balanced individuals who decided the risks of the vaccine were worth it to them, I understand that.

However I am seeing a LOT of people in my personal life who are addicted to this vaccine. They truly drop into a state of depression inbetween shots. fear, paranoia, bipolar type behavior until they can get their booster. Then all the sudden they think they are invincible and on cloud 9 again until the next media blast that tells them to be afraid and get another shot. This is a whole new addiction we are facing.
 
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By yesterday morning there was no more fever or any concerning symptoms, however today even with the negative test I still have a lack of smell or taste, but that is all really.

I am not sure if you have been vaccinated, but i imagine if you haven’t the timeline will be stretched out quite a bit to negative test and no symptoms.
Wow! 7 days for you. That's awesome. But no, I'm not vaccinated.

I could easily be wrong, but the rate at which I'm recovering, I think I'm right behind you. I can tell when I start needing my next dose of vitamin C by symptoms, and this last time I went 3 hours easily. Only mildly stuffy and the achiness is very low for this time of day.

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Current regimen:
40mg telmisartan
16g vitamin C
11,000iu vitamin D (verified with bloodwork)
150mcg K-2 MK-7
3 caps Thorne Men >50 Multi
750mg Quercetin Phytosome (began yesterday)
50mg zinc gluconate (began today)
125mg Resveratrol (cut in half today)
2.4g EPA/DHA
15mg Sublingual DHEA
TRT
450mg Magnesium Citrate
Thorne Floramend Probiotics
NOW Foods Super Enzymes

That's my whole protocol to include things possibly not relevant to covid. I've also been focusing on noninflammatory foods like free range brown eggs, organic pastas, Greek yogurt, limiting meat to 4oz per meal (losing teh gains! lol), vegan protein powder, oat powder for shakes, and veggies like spinach, rice cauliflower and broccoli. Trying to get as much sleep as I can but sadly, terminal/middle insomnia still gets me. But, I think I total 6-7 hours now.
 
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Break room said we recommend employees get boosters due to new variant. Didn’t the scientist that found the new variant say it’s mild? Also CNN business say stocks rise for pharmaceutical companies after variant found.
 
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Break room said we recommend employees get boosters due to new variant. Didn’t the scientist that found the new variant say it’s mild? Also CNN business say stocks rise for pharmaceutical companies after variant found.
Frankly - My view and observations on coronavirus family of viruses, given they are almost impossible to eradicate through immunisation (as is already being clearly shown globally), it is just a never ending cycle. Vaccines do not “prime” mucosal immunity which is a vital line of defence against break through infection.

Natural immunity (optimally exposure after an initial full vaccination which will limit the potential for serious disease or death) is now becoming pretty clear as the best course of action to make this pandemic into an endemic.

Just my opinion - im not an epidemiologist or any kind of verified guru in this area..
 
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Frankly - My view and observations on coronavirus family of viruses, given they are almost impossible to eradicate through immunisation (as is already being clearly shown globally), it is just a never ending cycle. Vaccines do not “prime” mucosal immunity which is a vital line of defence against break through infection.

Natural immunity (optimally exposure after an initial full vaccination which will limit the potential for serious disease or death) is now becoming pretty clear as the best course of action to make this pandemic into an endemic.

Just my opinion - im not an epidemiologist or any kind of verified guru in this area..
How many reinfections are there? I'm too disconnected to know.
 
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How many reinfections are there? I'm too disconnected to know.
I think there's a decent amount. the Israel study is the best data we have on this. one of the things the virus mutates is the immune system evasion. I seem to remember some article saying it looks like the virus had similarities to HIV which is the ultimate immune system evasion
 
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I think there's a decent amount. the Israel study is the best data we have on this. one of the things the virus mutates is the immune system evasion. I seem to remember some article saying it looks like the virus had similarities to HIV which is the ultimate immune system evasion
Gotcha.
 
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Thought I'd throw something in here a little different then the norm...I've been binge watching Seinfeld all over again and just watched S3:E1 "The Note." Still just as funny as it was 30 or so years ago if your in the mood for a laugh!
 
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Thought I'd throw something in here a little different then the norm...I've been binge watching Seinfeld all over again and just watched S3:E1 "The Note." Still just as funny as it was 30 or so years ago if your in the mood for a laugh!
That show is about 1000 times better than friends. Best sitcom ever. Yea I said it haha
 
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I'm telling you guys. Jump on hulu tonight and watch the pilot for dopesick. it's about manipulating the FDA to provide approval on oxycontin. as you watch it, you'll see bizarre similarities to the world we are in today.

There are some balanced individuals who decided the risks of the vaccine were worth it to them, I understand that.

However I am seeing a LOT of people in my personal life who are addicted to this vaccine. They
Thought I'd throw something in here a little different then the norm...I've been binge watching Seinfeld all over again and just watched S3:E1 "The Note." Still just as funny as it was 30 or so years ago if your in the mood for a laugh!
we've got the granddaughters over tonight...just finished watching national lampoons Christmas vacation....sentimental and sappy but funny as hell in spots, we had a great time....popcorn anyone?
 
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we've got the granddaughters over tonight...just finished watching national lampoons Christmas vacation....sentimental and sappy but funny as hell in spots, we had a great time....popcorn anyone?
I tried to get the kids to watch that and they said let’s see a preview and proceeded to not be impressed or believe me when I said it’s good. I have a few more weeks to try haha
 
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I tried to get the kids to watch that and they said let’s see a preview and proceeded to not be impressed or believe me when I said it’s good. I have a few more weeks to try haha
my granddaughters absolutely love a Christmas story-they laugh like crazy at the tongue stuck to flagpole....my favorite is planes, trains and automobiles--can't go wrong with steve martin and john candy, but got to edit the f-fest around the girls.
 
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Break room said we recommend employees get boosters due to new variant. Didn’t the scientist that found the new variant say it’s mild? Also CNN business say stocks rise for pharmaceutical companies after variant found.
Also, key info to keep in mind: ghislaine maxwell and jussie smollett trials started today. 🙄
 
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we've got the granddaughters over tonight...just finished watching national lampoons Christmas vacation....sentimental and sappy but funny as hell in spots, we had a great time....popcorn anyone?
I watch this every year after Thanksgiving with my parents
 
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my granddaughters absolutely love a Christmas story-they laugh like crazy at the tongue stuck to flagpole....my favorite is planes, trains and automobiles--can't go wrong with steve martin and john candy, but got to edit the f-fest around the girls.
Great movies. I don't know how @rob112 is raising his kids and I try not to judge - but they didn't see the potential of Christmas Vacation? It's just classic. haha. Although, I would say that Chevy Chase was a little overrated back in the day.

Planes, Trains and Automobiles is a work of art, truly. It is seriously two of the best ever working together to make the best movie of both of their respective careers. Not just for the humor - the plot and sentiment is just great. The humor is extraordinary.

If that movie was made today with two "top" comedians - they would both be trying to steal the show and be obnoxious and over the top. Candy and Martin both let it come to them and played their part within the bigger picture. There are so many good scenes that are just incredible.

The scene in the hotel room where Steve Martin goes off is just hilarious. I get the feeling he ad libbed a lot of that on the spot - it just seems so in character. And Candy's response at the end of it was such a powerful turn.

And of course - the airport car rental scene. "Four wheels and a seat. I want a car. Right. F'in. Now!"
 
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Great movies. I don't know how @rob112 is raising his kids and I try not to judge - but they didn't see the potential of Christmas Vacation? It's just classic. haha. Although, I would say that Chevy Chase was a little overrated back in the day.

Planes, Trains and Automobiles is a work of art, truly. It is seriously two of the best ever working together to make the best movie of both of their respective careers. Not just for the humor - the plot and sentiment is just great. The humor is extraordinary.

If that movie was made today with two "top" comedians - they would both be trying to steal the show and be obnoxious and over the top. Candy and Martin both let it come to them and played their part within the bigger picture. There are so many good scenes that are just incredible.

The scene in the hotel room where Steve Martin goes off is just hilarious. I get the feeling he ad libbed a lot of that on the spot - it just seems so in character. And Candy's response at the end of it was such a powerful turn.

And of course - the airport car rental scene. "Four wheels and a seat. I want a car. Right. F'in. Now!"
I blame the mother for any shortcomings because it makes me feel like a big man lol
 

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