Sorry buddy, as much as i would have loved, the cissus didnt work for me. Most people reported it working in 2 weeks. I finished entire bottle and didn't even start the second one.
I got the btc based on this guys recomendation but not sure what that is doing either. Im clueless atm.
Things can work different for different people, but if you have a second bottle, I would have started it though.
Supplementation in general, and especially with certain categories like things working for joint, tendon, and ligament pain is often a matter of expectations and a lot of times a matter of patience.
It takes us years of wear and tear on our body to cause certain problems, issues, and conditions. And of course we all want relief or help as quickly as possible but a lot of times people get so impatient that they don't allow themselves to get results or the best results off of things.
Take Glucosamine for example - it may be kinda boring to talk about bc its been around so long, but its by far the most well researched product for joint health and I remember a lot of the initial studies on it showed that it takes 3 to 6 weeks to even START to become effective. Not for maximum effectiveness, but to start to become effective.
A good bodybuilding example is Phosphatidic Acid. You hear some people that love it and some people that say it does nothing. But a deep dive into this shows 2 things - 1) People expecting the best results off products with subpar dosages 2) People having unrealistic expectations and expecting results too quickly. They then may get frustrated and stop using it and wind up costing themselves what could be great consistent gains if they had the proper expectations. Because realistically, I would tell people if you're not going to try Phosphatidic Acid at the correct dose for at least 8 weeks, don't even bother to begin with because it takes awhile to build up in your system and become effective. Me and
@DieselNY have talked about this a lot.
In regard to Cissus, in your post here you said that most people report it working in 2 weeks - but I think what would be more accurate to say would be that 'most people can feel it starting to work in as little as 2 weeks' or that 'most people can start to tell a different in as little as 2 weeks and then results get better with time'. Cissus is a great product for joint, tendon, ligament, and cartilage health but its a product that needs to be used consistently for best results. It's not a miracle cure all that's going to make you feel 10 years younger in a few weeks.
In terms of great joint support products for people that are impatient (and don't get me wrong, I can be myself), I think Joint Support XT is the best product available because it contains NEM Natural Eggshell Membrane which has been shown in clinical studies to start working within 7 days, C3 Curcumin that has been shown in many clinical studies to be effective for joint pain and relief, Super Boswellin which is a patented clinically researched form of Boswellin that has been shown effective, and then good old Glucosamine, which as discussed above may not be the fastest working out of the group but has great studies showing long term relief and benefits. This product works great for me and between weight training, sports, and rafting, I've put a lot of wear and tear on my body over the years. I hope he doesn't mind me tagging him in the post but
@Hyde is a great example of someone else that I've seen post in several places that really likes the results from Joint Support XT.