Tell Us What You Would Like to See From SNS & CEL (2021 Edition)
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Hyde
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We just discussed this about a page back if you didn’t catch it, actually - Steve said he’s currently getting with different flavoring teams to try to get a few solid flavors dialed in on this for us. Apparently flavored products are a huge holdup in the industry right now.
I’m very pumped for it myself!
sns8778
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Thank you.
I wish it was as simple as people that it was. If so, I'd have out literally about a dozen more flavored powder products than I do, but they take forever to get released now days.
For the Ergonine competitor, we had the flavors done at our old cm but then they got backed up to 18 to 24 week lead times (and that was a maybe bc it may have been longer) so we started working with another place. So then we got flavors done there and same thing happened - they changed lead times to 18 to 24 weeks and on top of that, I have PO's in with them for some flavored powders and we've been getting told 'next week' seriously since April. This led to me working with a couple new places and it will be great once it gets going, but its a process. We have two different places working on the flavor samples now and we want to make sure we get at least 3 flavors perfect before we launch. Flavor is super important with this since its a daily use product.
Anyone that thinks they're more frustrated with this process than me needs to reconsider and think that I'm the one with dozens of hours tied up in each and money tied up in raw materials, labels, etc. This type of think has literally consumed my life this year.
sns8778
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I think you'll really like it. Some people use it as needed and don't use it daily. I've found that it has a great effect for me as a daily use supplement. Overall, I'm more relaxed and calmer and I feel like I can power through stressful situations better. And I don't get as frustrated nearly as easily.
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Here's a thread on it that has some feedback in it:
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sns8778
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M-Test is supposed to be shipping to us this week I hope. And as soon as we get it, we'll get DPS and the other retailers resupplied.
Anabolic Effect and M-Test is definitely a great stack.
sns8778
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We're doing the best we can do.
We had the flavors done at our old cm but then they got backed up to 18 to 24 week lead times (and that was a maybe bc it may have been longer) so we started working with another place. So then we got flavors done there and same thing happened - they changed lead times to 18 to 24 weeks and on top of that, I have PO's in with them for some flavored powders and we've been getting told 'next week' seriously since April. This led to me working with a couple new places and it will be great once it gets going, but its a process. We have two different places working on the flavor samples now and we want to make sure we get at least 3 flavors perfect before we launch. Flavor is super important with this since its a daily use product.
The delays are flavored powders is so bad that many of the big brands aren't releasing new flavors or flavored powder products at all this year.
sns8778
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Thank you for the kind words and support. I do the best I can do.
And you are absolutely correct. I appreciate the excitement for the new products, but as you say - when it comes to people 'busing my chops' over it, it really does take a toll on me mentally; so you made a great observation there.
I am very interactive and transparent and I've realized that maybe I am too much so - because I like to interact and answer questions and keep people updated, but sometimes it turns into people giving me a hard time about things that are beyond my control. I do the best I can do but there are only so many hours in a day and on new releases, there are many things that have to be done, reviewed, gone over with retailers for launch specials, etc. And sometimes the people I'm waiting on on their end to review things or work out specials and details on are busy themselves and don't get back to me right away. I can absolutely promise that no one wants the new stuff to be released worse than we do because we're the ones that have the money tied up in it
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I’m trying to run OT and MT together… what’s the word bro
I'll post up the Optimize-T intro in a few moments.
M-Test we hope will be shipping to us this week. We will have it for sale and be shipping to resupply retailers as soon as we receive it.
It should be an incredible stack.
sns8778
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I hope that you'll be pleased with it. It will be an incredible stack stacked with M-Test as well.
I'm glad that you like Epi-Plex at 900 mg. as well. I love that dose myself. I take 600 mg. daily but go up to 900 mg. during certain periods, especially when I need more endurance.
And I'm really happy that Amentoflavone XT is getting such great feedback. I hope that you like it.
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alvin1
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rascal14
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I'd like another flavored drink product. But something different, not a pre workout or BCAAs, I guess it would be something similar to focus xt, but more focused on relaxation and stress reduction and not as much mental performance (although less stress and being relaxed might help with motivation/focus?)
sns8778
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Right now is a nightmare for flavored powders in the industry. A lot of contract manufacturers are so far behind that the best case lead times are 18 to 24 weeks. We've had that happen twice where we get flavors approved somewhere and then their lead time turns terrible. Right now, we're working with two separate places on flavor samples for several products. But its impossible to give accurate ETA's on them and I'm not going to even try to anymore on flavored powders.
I will say that we have quite a few flavored products in various stages of production at this point.
I thought about doing a relaxation type beverage, but we already have Stress & Anxiety Support and KannaEase which are both great for stress, anxiety, depression, and relaxation. So if we do one, I'm not sure if it would be designed for more daily use or acute type effects.
We also have a sleep drink mix in development that will be great for relaxation and winding down as well.
rascal14
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I totally get you lead times, I imagine every industry is struggling right now. Our standard building materials have more tripled in lead time for some things.
A sleep aid would be nice! I also know alot of these products are really hard to mask the flavor of, so drinking them isn't usually ideal.
Hyde
Legend
Are you a gaba guy? A dry scoop of SNS Gaba chased with water really can wind me down if I drank caffeine too late or something. I really like the slightly sour flavor (I think this is why so many flavored sleep/relaxation formulations are lemonade flavor).
Anyway, it works well and is extremely affordable per serving if you need some help now.
sns8778
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You are correct in that the flavor selection for many sleep products containing GABA are somewhat based off the natural taste of GABA. I like the taste of it - I can dry swallow it or just dump it in my mouth and swallow it with water.
sns8778
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The flavor samples for our sleep product turned out really well but we are now having to redo them with a new place bc of lead times at the old place. I hope that they turn out as good. The original ones were very enjoyable to drink.
rascal14
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I honestly can't remember, I like to think I had bad reactions last time I tried, but I was also taking a handful of other new stuff all over the place at the same time. I want to say it kept me awake when I did try it, but could be wrong.
I've thought about using it otherwise during the day, I take Klonopin on Sunday nights because I get bad anxiety about the work week (completely fine after that Monday work day though)
But I feel AMAZING, the day after taking Klonopin. No one can tell me if it helps me sleep (doesn't seem to be the case) or if it is just a trace remainder of the drug, but I feel much more energetic and motivated. I've heard it may have something to do with GABA, but I honestly forgot about that until you just said that.
sns8778
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Almost any powdered sleep formula has GABA in it. That would be odd if it kept you awake, but everyone is different and can respond to different things differently.
sns8778
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I've been working on a hair, skin, and nails product that would be good for both men and women. I've been trying to decide if I would do that under SNS or do a spinoff company related more to health and beauty, or both.
sns8778
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We're looking at an estimated release date of around 4 weeks for the product. I may release it a week before the release if I'm 100% confident it will be in on time.
f4iguy
Member
I'm really looking forward to the daily ergogenic and PA supplements. I understand the delay given the state of the world and supply issues. If there are any updates on these products please let us know. I don't mind the wait but it's fun having something that I know will be awesome for gains to look forward to. I can't wait to stop eating lecithin granules!
I'll always support SNS because you guys consider our feedback, produce awesome high quality products, and maintain great prices with options to buy in bulk. Probably my favorite company.
I'll always support SNS because you guys consider our feedback, produce awesome high quality products, and maintain great prices with options to buy in bulk. Probably my favorite company.
Jiigzz
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He works super hard, I can definitely vouch for that. He's not the type to hype either, just wants products that work for a very solid price point.
But I'm not surprised people are eager to get their hands on SNS products either haha.
sns8778
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Thank you. I really appreciate that.
We have so many cool things in the works and I'm super excited to try to have them available to everyone as soon as possible.
Juiceman
Member
Does anyone remember a supplement back in the day called FORMEX? That stuff was the absolute greatest and the libido boost from taking it was out of this world!!!
How can we get SNS to bring something like that to market or something even close to it? I’d buy the entire run if they could.
How can we get SNS to bring something like that to market or something even close to it? I’d buy the entire run if they could.
sns8778
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Formex contained Formestane which is a scheduled drug now.
We have a lot of great options for libido: Optimize-T, Furosap XT, Anacyclus XT, Spilanthes XT, Pine Pollen Caps, Bulbine Caps, and more.
Also, in a couple of months we'll be releasing our Libido Boost XT product.
sns8778
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I'm pretty familiar with Formestane as under CEL we offered it in a TD form. It was great for libido, but I think you're underestimating some of the other things if you say nothing can ever compete with it.
I've already seen feedback from some people that loved TD Formestane that are enjoying Anacyclus XT better in terms of libido.
I miss Formestane too, but its illegal now.
sns8778
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If the main thing you're interested in is erections, you should check out the Optimize-T thread and feedback.
We just released it last week so its only been in customer hands for less than a week and its already getting great feedback on libido.
TommyTuffGuy
Well-known member
Alright where dat Mitoburn at!?
sns8778
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Working on it haha
MitoBurn XT should be out pretty soon.
We also have a formula MitoBurn that we want to release. The formula is done, quote is done, label text is done - all except for a dang name lol. I know I want to use Burn in the name and its been extremely hard to think of something that isn't taken.
GQdaLEGEND
Legend
BurnFAT XT lol
sns8778
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I wanted to let everyone know that M-Test is now back in stock.
It came in too late in the day to get any shipped back out to retailers today, but we will start getting retailers resupplied tomorrow for any that have orders in.
It's listed live on the site now and I also added a 3 pack deal for those interested.
https://competitiveedgelabs.com/product/m-test/
https://competitiveedgelabs.com/product/m-test-3-pack/
I normally don't do cross brand giveaways but for a limited time, for anyone interested, if you order 2 M-Test or the 3 pack M-Test deal, if you include the words 'Free Tribulus-750' in the order notes, we'll send a free Tribulus-750 with your order.
It came in too late in the day to get any shipped back out to retailers today, but we will start getting retailers resupplied tomorrow for any that have orders in.
It's listed live on the site now and I also added a 3 pack deal for those interested.
https://competitiveedgelabs.com/product/m-test/
https://competitiveedgelabs.com/product/m-test-3-pack/
I normally don't do cross brand giveaways but for a limited time, for anyone interested, if you order 2 M-Test or the 3 pack M-Test deal, if you include the words 'Free Tribulus-750' in the order notes, we'll send a free Tribulus-750 with your order.
booneman77
Legend
Gotta love a deal PLUS freebies!
Stanfoo
Member
@sns8778 Suggestion for Libido Boost XT. It'd be better if you designed it with ingredients that cause increase in libido through other moa's besides increase in test. There's enough T boosters on the market, and the peeps looking specifically for a libido boost probably have already tried the usual T boosting supps.
sns8778
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I appreciate the suggestion.
I do think some people that are looking for libido have tried some of the usual T boosting supps as you said; but the problem is that I don't think the 'usual' t boosting supplements are very effective for a lot of people. And what I mean by that is that most people's definition of normal is going on Amazon and typing in test booster and seeing which ones come up. So if their test boosting selection is based on that, then I wouldn't really expect them to have great results in terms of test boosting or libido.
But put that in perspective with someone that uses something like M-Test or Optimize-T and the libido feedback is great on them.
So the way I've been looking at targeting it is to incorporate a test boosting aspect to the product but also to incorporate some other avenues as well.
For the person that wants a libido increase, Optimize-T is working great for almost everyone that's tried it.
But there may also be people out there are aren't as supplement knowledgeable that are looking for a supplement that has libido in the name and is strictly promoted as being towards that if that makes sense.
sns8778
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We will be doing a single ingredient one.
Its in the lineup but there is a lot of other priority stuff in front of it so I'm not sure when it will be though.
I didn't want to use it in a formula bc so many people have stomach issues with it. By doing it as a standalone, people that like it can add it to whatever else they'd like
sns8778
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The formula is done but we don't have a concrete ETA because we have so many products in front of it at the moment. I would like to say Dec/Jan I hope.
I'm sorry to hear about the cholesterol results.
sns8778
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I used to want to do that one but we never had enough demand for it. I think its a very underrated ingredient.
dcoen21
Active member
I don’t think people understand the benefits also the one study where liver issues in rats kinda pushed people away from it.
JD284
Member
I just started pink magic, stacking it with stano plex. i love AE and Mtest but i find that my body works best when i rotate ingredients every so often. i will probably use AE and Mtest for PCT, with some epi plex
My plan is to do the following:
3 or 4 bottles of pink magic, 2 bottles stano plex
Weeks 1-12: Pink Magic + 600mg Stano plex, phasing out epiandro after the second bottle of stano
Weeks 13 - ?: AE + mtest or optimize T
I have also tried both 600mg stano plex and 900mg - at the higher dose i started to have some joint issues. with pink magic and stano, it should bring the daily amount to 750
