Wife Has COVID-19

[poison]

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[THOR 70]

Either Darwin or God wins. Survival of the fittest should make the non believers happy I'd think? Purge the weak and start over?

It's not Earth's first pandemic, in the end while causalities do and will continue to exist, we will be fine.

I fear it will be survival of the smartest unfortunately. I’m willing to bet 99.999% of people that chose to get them vaccine knew nothing of or factored in the antibody dependent enhancement problems with corona type vaccines in the past. They made their decision out of fear.


To the psychology of your point, non believers latch on to this topic so hard and see the vaccine as a solution because covid is making them face their mortality. Since they don’t put their faith in their creator, they chose man and his solutions are always selfish and full of greed. 10+ new billionaires from the “solution” to this virus proves my point.

 

[THOR 70]

I don't really understand ADE but Dr Rhonda Patric said most of the covid MRNA vaccines are not supposed to be succeptable to this. I heard the Astra zenicka (India) one is. I guess there was some other vaccine (not covid ones) that was tested and killed a bunch of people and they learned from it

VERY good to know and I pray that it is true!

 

[Ricky10]

Everything you said really doesn’t make sense when you factor in the variable of vaccine long term adverse events that could be still coming.

So what you said seems very right through your lens of fear of what you see everyday at this current time point, but could be completely wrong (or right) in a time point 2-5 years from now. I honestly hope you’re right, but there are a lot of valid concerns that people are justified in for not getting vaccinated.

Tbh the more I look into this topic the more nefarious and bleak the outcome looks...vaccinated or not.

The worst of times could certainly be ahead of us in either case. Only time will tell..

There was something interesting I found out this past weekend when my GF and I visited a friend who is a traveling nurse recruiter. He said that last week he got a request from New Mexico to place 150 pediatric ICU nurses. He says that nothing of that sort anywhere has ever been requested of him in his 15 years of doing his job. While we know cases/illnesses are up with delta regarding children, he still questioned “what they know that we don’t know” - in his words.

 

[THOR 70]

The worst of times could certainly be ahead of us in either case. Only time will tell..

There was something interesting I found out this past weekend when my GF and I visited a friend who is a traveling nurse recruiter. He said that last week he got a request from New Mexico to place 150 pediatric ICU nurses. He says that nothing of that sort anywhere has ever been requested of him in his 15 years of doing his job. While we know cases/illnesses are up with delta regarding children, he still questioned “what they know that we don’t know” - in his words.

That is so sad. Since this points to conspiracy land, this means they know what’s coming or they are orchestrating it. Pure evil either way.

 

[Ricky10]

That is so sad. Since this points to conspiracy land, this means they know what’s coming or they are orchestrating it. Pure evil either way.

Indeed! However, another thought has since crossed my mind. Maybe they were planning on losing ~150 pediatric ICU nurses due to vaccine refusals

The way things are going, if the China virus or vaccines don’t kill us, we will end up killing each other. No matter what side of the fence you lean toward, the vaccinated vs unvaccinated has created yet another division among us.

Unity at its best

 

[rob112]

Indeed! However, another thought has since crossed my mind. Maybe they were planning on losing ~150 pediatric ICU nurses due to vaccine refusals

The way things are going, if the China virus or vaccines don’t kill us, we will end up killing each other. No matter what side of the fence you lean toward, the vaccinated vs unvaccinated has created yet another division among us.

Unity at its best

The only strength middle and lower classes have is in numbers. Divided we have none.

 

[THOR 70]

Indeed! However, another thought has since crossed my mind. Maybe they were planning on losing ~150 pediatric ICU nurses due to vaccine refusals

The way things are going, if the China virus or vaccines don’t kill us, we will end up killing each other. No matter what side of the fence you lean toward, the vaccinated vs unvaccinated has created yet another division among us.

Unity at its best

Agree! I’m not sure there is a good outcome to this despite the facts in the end!

 

[Dustin07]

Indeed! However, another thought has since crossed my mind. Maybe they were planning on losing ~150 pediatric ICU nurses due to vaccine refusals

The way things are going, if the China virus or vaccines don’t kill us, we will end up killing each other. No matter what side of the fence you lean toward, the vaccinated vs unvaccinated has created yet another division among us.

Unity at its best

How much of this do you think is fed by media narrative and could disappear when they find something better to force feed us on the boob tube ?

In my region there was no infighting or negativity for like two full months this summer. Then all the sudden during the Afghanistan thing we got simultaneous reports of covid spikes and everyone was at each other's throats again. Like in a matter of two days....

It was truly bizarre how fast everyone went back to hatred.

 

[Dustin07]

Honestly I told my wife it felt like that scene in Ghostbusters when suddenly everyone in NYC was fighting as the ooze passed through lol

 

[GreenMachineX]

Yeah, monoclonal antibodies have certainly been one of the better treatments to come along..

I appreciate the enthusiasm for those we know with chronic health conditions like obesity and diabetes. And while it’s a wonderful idea for these people to improve their health, we know that is much easier said than done.

The problem is its not even an idea though. I already pointed out the narrative and the fact "getting healthy" is not pumping equally as hard as getting the vaccine is a problem. Granted, there's no money in getting healthy, so...

 

[Ricky10]

How much of this do you think is fed by media narrative and could disappear when they find something better to force feed us on the boob tube ?

In my region there was no infighting or negativity for like two full months this summer. Then all the sudden during the Afghanistan thing we got simultaneous reports of covid spikes and everyone was at each other's throats again. Like in a matter of two days....

It was truly bizarre how fast everyone went back to hatred.

Yeah! They should go back to obsessing over something nobody cares about, like the “insurrection”

I think Biden lost whatever shred of respect he may have had left with the Afghanistan disaster. There are and will be many Americans that will never forget or forgive what happened and what is yet to come as a result.

Oops, I got political

 

[mechka_grizli]

The worst of times could certainly be ahead of us in either case. Only time will tell..

There was something interesting I found out this past weekend when my GF and I visited a friend who is a traveling nurse recruiter. He said that last week he got a request from New Mexico to place 150 pediatric ICU nurses. He says that nothing of that sort anywhere has ever been requested of him in his 15 years of doing his job. While we know cases/illnesses are up with delta regarding children, he still questioned “what they know that we don’t know” - in his words.

That is so sad. Since this points to conspiracy land, this means they know what’s coming or they are orchestrating it. Pure evil either way.

Indeed! However, another thought has since crossed my mind. Maybe they were planning on losing ~150 pediatric ICU nurses due to vaccine refusals

The way things are going, if the China virus or vaccines don’t kill us, we will end up killing each other. No matter what side of the fence you lean toward, the vaccinated vs unvaccinated has created yet another division among us.

Unity at its best

Or another thought......numbers among children are SKYROCKETING. Which could equal the need for more nurses .

 

[Ricky10]

Or another thought......numbers among children are SKYROCKETING. Which could equal the need for more nurses .

Well that was my initial thought, and surely what my friend was implying. I just thought I would offer up some other plausible explanation…haha

 

[poison]

Or another thought......numbers among children are SKYROCKETING. Which could equal the need for more nurses .

'numbers are skyrocketing among children'

What does this even mean, besides it being something you heard someone say on TV. What numbers specifically?

 

[sammpedd88]

BIG difference--BIRD could back it up!!!

if bird would have had james worthy on his team celtics would have owned lakers, imo....man, i miss those days!!!

Back when pro basketball was a sport and not entertainment like WWE wrestling!

 

[poison]

No comment, I guess, so let's put that to rest. Anecdotal tweet from UCSF Emergency Dr:

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It's easy to say 'pediatric hospitalizations are SKYROCKETING'. Why? Because it's ambiguous, there's no perspective (by design, because perspective destroys that narrative).

Perspective and honesty would say how many, in hard numbers. So let's look at that. It's difficult to find the total pediatric hospitalizations tallied up, but here:

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This guy says around 1400 pediatric hospitalizations nationwide. For reference, there are 74m million kids between the ages of 0-18. Given only 8% of all hospitalizations nationwide are from covid, it seems to fit.

Again, that context is not presented because context completely belies that narrative. If you had 1 pediatric hospitalization, and it increased to 10, could you say 'they're skyrocketing'? Sure, but in a population of 74M that's dishonest, and the only intent is of doing so is to create fear.

 

[mechka_grizli]

No comment, I guess, so let's put that to rest. Anecdotal tweet from UCSF Emergency Dr:

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Oh wait, another:

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It's easy to say 'pediatric hospitalizations are SKYROCKETING'. Why? Because it's ambiguous, there's no perspective (by design, because perspective destroys that narrative).

Perspective and honesty would say how many, in hard numbers. So let's look at that. It's difficult to find the total pediatric hospitalizations tallied up, but here:

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This guy says around 1400 pediatric hospitalizations nationwide. For reference, there are 74m million kids between the ages of 0-18. Given only 8% of all hospitalizations nationwide are from covid, it seems to fit.

Again, that context is not presented because context completely belies that narrative. If you had 1 pediatric hospitalization, and it increased to 10, could you say 'they're skyrocketing'? Sure, but in a population of 74M that's dishonest, and the only intent is of doing so is to create fear.

Not sure you read my msg. I never said hospitalizations are skyrocketing. I said NUMBERS are. Meaning infections. It stands to reason that as infections increase so can hospitalizations. Its not that hard to understand.

 

[Dustin07]

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[THOR 70]

No comment, I guess, so let's put that to rest. Anecdotal tweet from UCSF Emergency Dr:

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Oh wait, another:

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It's easy to say 'pediatric hospitalizations are SKYROCKETING'. Why? Because it's ambiguous, there's no perspective (by design, because perspective destroys that narrative).

Perspective and honesty would say how many, in hard numbers. So let's look at that. It's difficult to find the total pediatric hospitalizations tallied up, but here:

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This guy says around 1400 pediatric hospitalizations nationwide. For reference, there are 74m million kids between the ages of 0-18. Given only 8% of all hospitalizations nationwide are from covid, it seems to fit.

Again, that context is not presented because context completely belies that narrative. If you had 1 pediatric hospitalization, and it increased to 10, could you say 'they're skyrocketing'? Sure, but in a population of 74M that's dishonest, and the only intent is of doing so is to create fear.

On point as usual. Thank you!

 

[THOR 70]

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Nobody is talking about this. Again, if true, is this an oversight? Or a beautifully designed nefarious plan to keep us locked in a state of fear slavery and constant/ever increasing sickness. Both lead to a weak and easily controllable society.

 

[Dustin07]

Nobody is talking about this. Again, if true, is this an oversight? Or a beautifully designed nefarious plan to keep us locked in a state of fear slavery and constant/ever increasing sickness. Both lead to a weak and easily controllable society.

maybe we are wrong and we're all going to die, but since day one we have mostly thought and said it seems like the flu with a possibility of being a little worse than our average flu. That still seems to be true. Rand Paul and many others said "herd immunity", that still seems to be true as this seems to indicate those with 'natural' immunity stop the virus in its tracks. We also noticed this massive creation/spread of variants post-vax and we questioned the possibility of it being a leaky vax.... again that seems to be true.

it really seems like the whole thing has been largely overblow since day 1 and still is, best case. Worst case, we are actively making it worse. ?

 

[rob112]

Nobody is talking about this. Again, if true, is this an oversight? Or a beautifully designed nefarious plan to keep us locked in a state of fear slavery and constant/ever increasing sickness. Both lead to a weak and easily controllable society.

I believe personally this is all some sort of movement to a credit score system. People will ask for. Freedom is tough. It doesn’t promise guaranteed outcomes. A state run society does. Meanwhile I’m more concerned about state control considering states have killed about a quarter billion people last century.

The great irony is people are stupid therefore they can not run their own lives, BUT those same stupid people will make great judgement in choosing who does.

 

[THOR 70]

maybe we are wrong and we're all going to die, but since day one we have mostly thought and said it seems like the flu with a possibility of being a little worse than our average flu. That still seems to be true. Rand Paul and many others said "herd immunity", that still seems to be true as this seems to indicate those with 'natural' immunity stop the virus in its tracks. We also noticed this massive creation/spread of variants post-vax and we questioned the possibility of it being a leaky vax.... again that seems to be true.

it really seems like the whole thing has been largely overblow since day 1 and still is, best case. Worst case, we are actively making it worse. ?

I 100% believe that how we handled it was very bad for society when you look at all the negative downstream/ancillary impacts of our decisions. So yes, I believe we have made it way worse than it should have been.

 

[THOR 70]

I believe personally this is all some sort of movement to a credit score system. People will ask for. Freedom is tough. It doesn’t promise guaranteed outcomes. A state run society does. Meanwhile I’m more concerned about state control considering states have killed about a quarter billion people last century.

The great irony is people are stupid therefore they can not run their own lives, BUT those same stupid people will make great judgement in choosing who does.

Yes! Your last paragraph is spot on! People want to feel there is someone smarter than them leading them. It avoids personal responsibility and ownership of one’s life.

 

[poison]

Not sure you read my msg. I never said hospitalizations are skyrocketing. I said NUMBERS are. Meaning infections. It stands to reason that as infections increase so can hospitalizations. Its not that hard to understand.

'NUMBERS' does not mean infections, which is precisely why I asked what numbers you were referring to. Cases are irrelevant, Hospitalizations are more relevant, severe disease//ICU admission/death most relevant. Team Panic Porn doesn't get to switch from CASES to HOSPITALIZATIONS to SEVERE DISEASE, based on their desired outcome.

No one gives a **** who has the sniffles. Who is hospitalized or dying is important. Remember, 8% of all hospitalizations currently are covid. 8%. How many are kids? Virtually none.

 

[Ricky10]

'NUMBERS' does not mean infections, which is precisely why I asked what numbers you were referring to. Cases are irrelevant, Hospitalizations are more relevant, severe disease//ICU admission/death most relevant. Team Panic Porn doesn't get to switch from CASES to HOSPITALIZATIONS to SEVERE DISEASE, based on their desired outcome.

No one gives a **** who has the sniffles. Who is hospitalized or dying is important. Remember, 8% of all hospitalizations currently are covid. 8%. How many are kids? Virtually none.

As of 8/25, there were supposedly around 300 pediatric hospital admissions for China virus per day, which is higher than it ever has been in the past year when they started tracking.

Then we have Florida specifically that leads the nation. According to data from the CDC, the 7-day average between 8/7 and 8/13 shows there were ~55 children aged between 0-17 years admitted to Florida hospitals every day between August 7 and August 13.

I’m not saying anyone should particularly be in a panic, but symptomatic pediatric infections have seemed to be more problematic in light of
delta.

 

[Ricky10]

I 100% believe that how we handled it was very bad for society when you look at all the negative downstream/ancillary impacts of our decisions. So yes, I believe we have made it way worse than it should have been.

While I see all the f*cked up sh*t China virus patients go through, I definitely don’t think destroying virtually every aspect of everyone else’s life was warranted.

We already have the Biden administration in place for that regardless. Which really just goes full circle.

Oops, I got political again

 

[sammpedd88]

Not at all.

Lockdown here will be for approximately 2-3 weeks, if past experience is any guide. If successful, the citizens in my country will then be able to return to a degree of freedom I haven't seen in many other Western countries since this sh1t happened. And they'll be no domestic covid cases.

Note I said 'return'. We have had normal freedom of movement domestically AND no covid* since last year. I obviously hear about the restrictions with gyms, work, restaurants, etc etc people in the US and Britain and Australia face and thank fuk I don't live there.

So no, I don't shake my head over 2 weeks of restriction.

*we did have a small covid outbreak earlier in the year due to a border breach, but that was quickly contained to a very small geographical region, thanks largely to a lockdown

I saw another guy from NZ post that the government is paying everyone to stay home during the lockdown. Is that true?

 

[Nac]

I saw another guy from NZ post that the government is paying everyone to stay home during the lockdown. Is that true?

Lol, depends what you mean by "pay".

Is it money unrelated to your normal wage? Nope.

Is it a wage subsidy intended to help qualifying businesses keep paying staff their full pay? Yes.

 

[Ricky10]

Anyway, today is actually a tolerable day at work! Only 7 total victims- 1 being vaccinated with J&J back in March. He is 69 and only has a history of Lyme disease. He isn’t currently doing all that well as he is requiring 70% Hi-Flow oxygen.

Our worst unvaccinated patient is on a ventilator requiring a great deal of support. History of hypertension and obesity (31.5 BMI) at age 64. Our prior vented patient was transported out of the facility yesterday for critical care interventions we don’t offer.

In other news, my ongoing China virus tests every 3 days are now ongoing until 14 days pass without them discovering any newly positive staff members. This is all CDC driven. Apparently all 8 or 9 of the staff members thus far were fully vaccinated, which isn’t all that surprising given that ~80% of our staff is vaccinated anyway.

The idiotic thing is that mandating healthcare workers to get vaccinated is primarily designed to ensure patient safety. As we know, we are still capable of infection and transmission, so how much are we actually protecting our patients- who may or may not be vaccinated themselves! Not to mention it’s rather counterintuitive to routinely test people if they have been vaccinated for the very virus they are testing for!

Pretty f*cked up that people will be losing their jobs as a result of this!

 

[THOR 70]

Anyway, today is actually a tolerable day at work! Only 7 total victims- 1 being vaccinated with J&J back in March. He is 69 and only has a history of Lyme disease. He isn’t currently doing all that well as he is requiring 70% Hi-Flow oxygen.

Our worst unvaccinated patient is on a ventilator requiring a great deal of support. History of hypertension and obesity (31.5 BMI) at age 64. Our prior vented patient was transported out of the facility yesterday for critical care interventions we don’t offer.

In other news, my ongoing China virus tests every 3 days are now ongoing until 14 days pass without them discovering any newly positive staff members. This is all CDC driven. Apparently all 8 or 9 of the staff members thus far were fully vaccinated, which isn’t all that surprising given that ~80% of our staff is vaccinated anyway.

The idiotic thing is that mandating healthcare workers to get vaccinated is primarily designed to ensure patient safety. As we know, we are still capable of infection and transmission, so how much are we actually protecting our patients- who may or may not be vaccinated themselves! Not to mention it’s rather counterintuitive to routinely test people if they have been vaccinated for the very virus they were vaccinated for!

Pretty f*cked up that people will be losing their jobs as a result of this!

Thank you again for another great post filled with data and common sense!

 

[THOR 70]

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Advocating for vaccine passports despite bells Palsy. Maybe he had it prior to his vaccination?

 

[poison]

As of 8/25, there were supposedly around 300 pediatric hospital admissions for China virus per day, which is higher than it ever has been in the past year when they started tracking.

Then we have Florida specifically that leads the nation. According to data from the CDC, the 7-day average between 8/7 and 8/13 shows there were ~55 children aged between 0-17 years admitted to Florida hospitals every day between August 7 and August 13.

I’m not saying anyone should particularly be in a panic, but symptomatic pediatric infections have seemed to be more problematic in light of
delta.

Team Panic: Look! 55 children are admitted daily! That's like, a lot of children! Right? Count 55 apples, then imagine those apples are children! Then imagine you're the covid monster and take a bite out of each one! You're biting children! Awful right! 55! THINK ABOUT IT!

Da fuk does 55 mean, there's 0 context (for a reason). Yet again, that's playing games with numbers. How many are normally admitted this time of year, or in a normal flu season? How many were released daily? You can't switch from 'hospitals are overwhelmed, look see here's one that's at 97% overall capacity!' (overwhelmed with what? RSV? shhh) to 'pediatric admissions are up 10 fold!!!' (what is 10 fold? Are you Moses or Elijah or some ****?) to 'ICU's are full and turning away stabbing victims, look here's a guy that got turned away!' (what is overall US ICU capacity oh it's at 60%? 404 full not found) to '55 daily pediatric admissions' (for what? what's normal? what's max capability? How many of those 55 are actually having a hard time, or dying?). Pick a standard, any standard, by which to gauge the severity of this, and stick with it.

Nevermind the recent reports that Invalid Link Removed, but because they came in for something else and popped a positive routine covid test. /sniffle

 

[Jiigzz]

Lol, depends what you mean by "pay".

Is it money unrelated to your normal wage? Nope.

Is it a wage subsidy intended to help qualifying businesses keep paying staff their full pay? Yes.

Are you kiwi?!?!?!

 

[rob112]

What about the evidence in support of face mask wearing, particularly when concerned with viruses as opposed to general infection?

We're not talking a silver bullet here, but rather a combined approach by covering all the bases. 1 thing doesn't have to be 100% effective. I.e. making everyone wear seat belts doesn't prevent all car crash fatalities, but evidence shows your chance of survival dramatically increases by wearing one, but car manufacturers will still put in air bags, engineer their cars to distribute forces away from the passenger cabin, and all kinds of other bells and whistles knowing that the combined approach works better than relying on one or 2 methods.

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Can’t remember off hand if Columbia or MIT, but I recall them saying Covid is about 1000 times smaller than the holes in the mask(let alone what passes for masks). Granted droplets of spit it would help against. Have you seen that info? I can try to look it up later.

Not anti mask. Just anti coercion. I don’t care if people wear space suits personally.

 

[sammpedd88]

Lol, depends what you mean by "pay".

Is it money unrelated to your normal wage? Nope.

Is it a wage subsidy intended to help qualifying businesses keep paying staff their full pay? Yes.

So the NZ government is giving certain businesses the funds to pay employees a portion of their salary during the lockdown? I just want to make sure I understand it correctly. The other guy that made the post didn’t explain it in detail but his writing made me believe the government was paying people to stay home.

I appreciate your clarification man!

 

[Jiigzz]

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Ha!

I love this.

 

[Ricky10]

Team Panic: Look! 55 children are admitted daily! That's like, a lot of children! Right? Count 55 apples, then imagine those apples are children! Then imagine you're the covid monster and take a bite out of each one! You're biting children! Awful right! 55! THINK ABOUT IT!

Da fuk does 55 mean, there's 0 context (for a reason). Yet again, that's playing games with numbers. How many are normally admitted this time of year, or in a normal flu season? How many were released daily? You can't switch from 'hospitals are overwhelmed, look see here's one that's at 97% overall capacity!' (overwhelmed with what? RSV? shhh) to 'pediatric admissions are up 10 fold!!!' (what is 10 fold? Are you Moses or Elijah or some ****?) to 'ICU's are full and turning away stabbing victims, look here's a guy that got turned away!' (what is overall US ICU capacity oh it's at 60%? 404 full not found) to '55 daily pediatric admissions' (for what? what's normal? what's max capability? How many of those 55 are actually having a hard time, or dying?). Pick a standard, any standard, by which to gauge the severity of this, and stick with it.

Nevermind the recent reports that Invalid Link Removed, but because they came in for something else and popped a positive routine covid test. /sniffle

Those are all very good questions! Most of which are rhetorical I presume. I was simply stating that pediatric patients are playing a factor more than they had been prior. RSV is certainly seeing a spike as well after evading us this past winter. I just treated a 7 month old baby with RSV this morning in the ED as soon as I walked in the door. There is nothing fun about sick kids! I’m not really in to pediatrics

 

[Nac]

So the NZ government is giving certain businesses the funds to pay employees a portion of their salary during the lockdown?

Pretty much, yes. Key words being "portion", and "certain".

 

[puccah8808]

Anyway, today is actually a tolerable day at work! Only 7 total victims- 1 being vaccinated with J&J back in March. He is 69 and only has a history of Lyme disease. He isn’t currently doing all that well as he is requiring 70% Hi-Flow oxygen.

Our worst unvaccinated patient is on a ventilator requiring a great deal of support. History of hypertension and obesity (31.5 BMI) at age 64. Our prior vented patient was transported out of the facility yesterday for critical care interventions we don’t offer.

In other news, my ongoing China virus tests every 3 days are now ongoing until 14 days pass without them discovering any newly positive staff members. This is all CDC driven. Apparently all 8 or 9 of the staff members thus far were fully vaccinated, which isn’t all that surprising given that ~80% of our staff is vaccinated anyway.

The idiotic thing is that mandating healthcare workers to get vaccinated is primarily designed to ensure patient safety. As we know, we are still capable of infection and transmission, so how much are we actually protecting our patients- who may or may not be vaccinated themselves! Not to mention it’s rather counterintuitive to routinely test people if they have been vaccinated for the very virus they are testing for!

Pretty f*cked up that people will be losing their jobs as a result of this!

I went to get blood work done today and the lady said that she has until the end of September to get the jab before she loses her job. She said, “oh, well, **** it.”

 

[puccah8808]

Work implemented that we must wear a mask at all times in the office (even if there’s only 2 people and we are 100 feet apart).

VP comes into the office today (after coming back from vacation in Europe and no quarantine) and walks around talking to everyone with no mask on. The damn hypocrisy!!!

 

[Ricky10]

Work implemented that we must wear a mask at all times in the office (even if there’s only 2 people and we are 100 feet apart).

VP comes into the office today (after coming back from vacation in Europe and no quarantine) and walks around talking to everyone with no mask on. The damn hypocrisy!!!

Not sure where I said it, but the president of MaineHealth- my employer and the largest healthcare organization in my state is exempt from wearing a surgical mask because it gives him anxiety. Ridiculous!

Meanwhile, here I am vaccinated with a mask on my face all day, and getting tested for the China virus every three days! I have had 4 subsequent negative tests. Also ridiculous!

 

[puccah8808]

Not sure where I said it, but the president of MaineHealth- my employer and the largest healthcare organization in my state is exempt from wearing a surgical mask because it gives him anxiety. Ridiculous!

Meanwhile, here I am vaccinated with a mask on my face all day, and getting tested for the China virus every three days! I have had 4 subsequent negative tests. Also ridiculous!

That is freaking insane!!!!!! I’m about to pull the religious card soon! I’m about to go out of town this weekend and not say a damn word.

 

[Dustin07]

Anyway, today is actually a tolerable day at work! Only 7 total victims- 1 being vaccinated with J&J back in March. He is 69 and only has a history of Lyme disease. He isn’t currently doing all that well as he is requiring 70% Hi-Flow oxygen.

Our worst unvaccinated patient is on a ventilator requiring a great deal of support. History of hypertension and obesity (31.5 BMI) at age 64. Our prior vented patient was transported out of the facility yesterday for critical care interventions we don’t offer.

In other news, my ongoing China virus tests every 3 days are now ongoing until 14 days pass without them discovering any newly positive staff members. This is all CDC driven. Apparently all 8 or 9 of the staff members thus far were fully vaccinated, which isn’t all that surprising given that ~80% of our staff is vaccinated anyway.

The idiotic thing is that mandating healthcare workers to get vaccinated is primarily designed to ensure patient safety. As we know, we are still capable of infection and transmission, so how much are we actually protecting our patients- who may or may not be vaccinated themselves! Not to mention it’s rather counterintuitive to routinely test people if they have been vaccinated for the very virus they are testing for!

Pretty f*cked up that people will be losing their jobs as a result of this!

What is normal treatment for a COVID patient (at any stage)? I had asked someone about the national production act we had last year to build 40k new ventilators (my business was fortunate enough to be used on some of that) but they had "reminded" me that we found ventilators were somehow worse? I couldn't argue because I couldn't remember the discussion that.

What type of medication are you guys giving COVID patients? How long (assuming they don't die) are they "typically" there for? (I know outliers exist in both directions)

It's great having you share your real world experiences with us.

 

[rob112]

Preschools around my area are now requiring a separate set of shoes for Covid. Has Covid ever been found on shoes? I thought a virus needed a host to survive?

Clown world or makes sense?

 

[mechka_grizli]

Preschools around my area are now requiring a separate set of shoes for Covid. Has Covid ever been found on shoes? I thought a virus needed a host to survive?

Clown world or makes sense?

As crazy as it sounds, scientists have determined the sole of a shoe is the main breeding ground for bacteria, fungi and viruses and many people conclude that your shoes could potentially be carrying something that could make you sick. Your chances are higher if you’re wearing them in busy areas like supermarkets, airports or public transportation. Which is why its usually recommended to leave your shoes at the door

 

[Dustin07]

Reminds me of that Seinfeld episode when he was throwing his shoelaces away because they touched the floor in the men's room bathroom, lol.

It's sorta funny to think about what our definition of sanitary was 10 or 20 years ago compared to today.

 

[Kronic]

As crazy as it sounds, scientists have determined the sole of a shoe is the main breeding ground for bacteria, fungi and viruses and many people conclude that your shoes could potentially be carrying something that could make you sick. Your chances are higher if you’re wearing them in busy areas like supermarkets, airports or public transportation. Which is why its usually recommended to leave your shoes at the door

good point. but before you go barefoot everywhere let's not forget about ringworm

 

[poison]

Did you know eliminating routine, normal exposure to pathogens is not actually desirable? That the rsv epidemic currently overwhelming our hospitals is caused by non-exposure? Let's answer this question: how many people have been infected by anything from a shoe, in the last 50 years? Of those, did any die?

As far as those kids, it's definitely the shoes that are the problem, not the little snot factories wearing the shoes, right? As if they won't sneeze and drool covid on the floor, the new shoes, their masks, the desks, and each other anyway? Please.