Dont know about Liftmode, but ND is legit, no doubt about it.
It means exactly what @sns8778 said above. They say it’s a 12% extract. But given the cost of higher percentage extract I’m wondering if what they sell is real.What do you mean they PRETEND it’s hplc tested. What does that mean?
Another problem that I'll mention too is that when a supplier sends you an HPLC test result, there is no way to know the legitimacy of it. The only way to know for sure is to have it independently tested for yourself. As you may can detect, I'm so disenchanted with the BS that goes on in this industry now days. I've seen so many companies lie on or about COA's and even about test results; the sad reality is that any company can make a word document 'COA' and edit it however they see fit.It means exactly what @sns8778 said above. They say it’s a 12% extract. But given the cost of higher percentage extract I’m wondering if what they sell is real.
Did you alredy order from them? Have you seen any of their HPLC results?
We are going to be offering both an LJ100 branded ingredient version and another branded ingredient version and neither of those suggest cycling it it 5 days on and 2 days off. I can't speak for the brands that are offering the unsubstantiated potencies but the branded ingredient companies with the clinical studies to back theirs aren't suggesting that.What are the studies that show needing to cycle it 5 days on 2 days off?
There are no studies that used that protocol. It came about from anecdotal experiences from a libido boosting stand point.What are the studies that show needing to cycle it 5 days on 2 days off?
Thank you. I appreciate that.The effects tend to fade if you use it without cycling. At least in my experience and from what i had read from others. Maybe it still have acute benefits but the more obvious tend to fade as i said.
Nootropics Depot is one of the most reputable vendors. Maybe they extracted it themselves??? Dont remember.
LJ100 is a hit or miss product. I dont like it. Made me very tired and depressed.
Im going to use the new SNS extract of course, one of the few brands that i trust. They are my go to for essentials products.
If you mean liftMode, I have it and have ordered twice. They are an incredibly reputable company. And yes I can confirm that it’s the best tongkat I’ve ever used.I still need to get some Tongkat and saw Modlift is making a 12% extract. has anybody ordered from them? Is it legit? They pretend it’s hplc tested.
How much were you dosing?If you mean liftMode, I have it and have ordered twice. They are an incredibly reputable company. And yes I can confirm that it’s the best tongkat I’ve ever used.
I’m doing about 100mg daily. Really notice the energy effects about 45mins after dosing. Definitely feel the increased aggression (sometimes a bit too much so be careful, I’ve been a bit too “assertive” during meetings lol). Libido effects are great for the first couple weeks and then taper off.How much were you dosing?
How are you measuring 100mg? They come with a spoon that small?I’m doing about 100mg daily. Really notice the energy effects about 45mins after dosing. Definitely feel the increased aggression (sometimes a bit too much so be careful, I’ve been a bit too “assertive” during meetings lol). Libido effects are great for the first couple weeks and then taper off.
I’m also 35 so I think it definitely is beneficial for me now that I’m older, not sure how much it will do for people whom are still in their 20s.
I’ve ordered it twice now and really enjoy, I usually use it for about a month and a half and then take a break for a month or so. You can definitely get a lot of mileage out of 1 jar.
I have a digital milligram scale that I ordered off Amazon. I think it was like $20, definitely worth the investment. It does come with a scoop but using the scoop is a rough estimate and if you want it to be consistent I wouldn’t trust it. Invest in a scale.How are you measuring 100mg? They come with a spoon that small?
How do you feel whit outbreak Rise, im taking it and feel amazing the only thing that is happening is the feeling of my chest becoming soft and grainy like beginning if pseudo gyno, it could be the fenugreek in it? It is suppose to raise estrogen and its used also for breastfeeding womans, or it could be that im losing fat? And also in outbreak Rise is e.cottoni should help again e. Im confused and dont know if stop or if got blood tested asap.. i dont use for pct i only take outbreak Rise sometime i stop for 2 days sometime i take half dose, any help is appreciatedI am at the hospital w/ delivery of my 2nd child, i took 2nd dose of tongkat + half dose outbreak rise to keep myself calm. Stuff def works for stress. I was a anxious and nervous AF last time. Pray to the iron gods!!!
No clue. Maybe just getting use to the effect.Interesting...yeah I was feeling more like running it at 100 - 300 mg every day no cycling off for long term use and benefits
What would the proposed reasoning be for losing at least some acute affects on libido with constant use? That's a big part of what I want it for tbh.
Going to try the nd 10%...maybe just start with a single tab in the am then see what happens adding a second one early pm.
No issues at all. I have taken fenugreek in the past with no issues either. Joints were feeling abit dry last couple weeks but lately r great.How do you feel whit outbreak Rise, im taking it and feel amazing the only thing that is happening is the feeling of my chest becoming soft and grainy like beginning if pseudo gyno, it could be the fenugreek in it? It is suppose to raise estrogen and its used also for breastfeeding womans, or it could be that im losing fat? And also in outbreak Rise is e.cottoni should help again e. Im confused and dont know if stop or if got blood tested asap.. i dont use for pct i only take outbreak Rise sometime i stop for 2 days sometime i take half dose, any help is appreciated
did you try ND 10% yet?Interesting...yeah I was feeling more like running it at 100 - 300 mg every day no cycling off for long term use and benefits
What would the proposed reasoning be for losing at least some acute affects on libido with constant use? That's a big part of what I want it for tbh.
Going to try the nd 10%...maybe just start with a single tab in the am then see what happens adding a second one early pm.
Saw that but it’s powder.Btw nootropics depot just dropped cistanche!!
Just get a micro scale ~$12Saw that but it’s powder.
can you summarize it’s effects?Btw nootropics depot just dropped cistanche!!
can you summarize it’s effects?
Have you ever taken it before?
- improve reproductive dysfunction and testis injury by regulating testosterone synthesis* (Wang et al., 2020)
- shorten erectile latency and prolong erectile duration* (Gu et al., 2016) (Gu et al., 2013)
- attenuate poor sperm quality and testicular toxicity* (Jiang et al., 2016)
- increase sperm quantity* (Jiang et al., 2018)
- increase sex hormone levels by triggering the release of testicular steroidogenic enzymes* (Wang et al., 2015)
- Stimulate nitrate oxide production* (Gu et al., 2020)
Testosterone & the Desert Ginseng: Genghis Khan’s Favorite Herb — Puredia
Studies have shown that Cistanche may help improve reproductive dysfunction and testis injury by regulating testosterone synthesis, shorten erectile latency and prolong erectile duration, attenuate poor sperm quality and testicular toxicity, increase sperm quantity, increase sex hormone levels by trwww.puredia.com
No, i plan to try it very soon from NDHave you ever taken it before?
that sounds good. may have to try it. thanks for the info.
- improve reproductive dysfunction and testis injury by regulating testosterone synthesis* (Wang et al., 2020)
- shorten erectile latency and prolong erectile duration* (Gu et al., 2016) (Gu et al., 2013)
- attenuate poor sperm quality and testicular toxicity* (Jiang et al., 2016)
- increase sperm quantity* (Jiang et al., 2018)
- increase sex hormone levels by triggering the release of testicular steroidogenic enzymes* (Wang et al., 2015)
- Stimulate nitrate oxide production* (Gu et al., 2020)
Testosterone & the Desert Ginseng: Genghis Khan’s Favorite Herb — Puredia
Studies have shown that Cistanche may help improve reproductive dysfunction and testis injury by regulating testosterone synthesis, shorten erectile latency and prolong erectile duration, attenuate poor sperm quality and testicular toxicity, increase sperm quantity, increase sex hormone levels by trwww.puredia.com
Supposedly genghkis khan’s fav herb and allowed him to hAve 200+ kids - roflthat sounds good. may have to try it. thanks for the info.
lmao perfectSupposedly genghkis khan’s fav herb and allowed him to hAve 200+ kids - rofl
what form of carnitine? seems like you are taking alot to narrow down what is working. Interested in the cistanche.Update: i have been on ND 2% Tongkat for about 5 weeks- definitely enjoying it. since my 2nd child was born i have been gettin broken up sleep and less ~6-7 hours. Added ND cistanche 5 days ago - lately I have been working out early first thing in morning and workouts have been great. good pumps. I think cistanche added abit more overall to everything. But most improvement from tongkat definitely. I am still taking butea + carnitine Btw for DHT conversion which appears to be working cuz my beard is filling in.
I had some dry /sore joint for a bit when i was also taking outbreak Rise (E. cottoni??) + black ginger. went away after stopping those 2. I just ordered some boron from swanson to stack for further SHBG /est control if and when cistanche supposedly kicks in that LH/FSH bump.
just to add, Nespresso machine and I have a very close relationship... Creepy close
not being a jerk but i kind of agree. thanks for being honest about your supp intake thoughwhat form of carnitine? seems like you are taking alot to narrow down what is working. Interested in the cistanche.
tartratewhat form of carnitine? seems like you are taking alot to narrow down what is working. Interested in the cistanche.
how terrible is the tasteUpdate; scale came in and i was taking about ~100mg cistache without weighing. Now that i can accurately weigh, i am dosing 200mg before bed. Nightime woods n libido is up.
not that bad. Tongkat is like 100x worse. slighly bitter but goes away after wash down with water. tongkat bitterness stayed around for 10-20 minutes and it was awful.how terrible is the taste
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