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The rich, as they are called here, absolutely do not pay their fair share. Did you know that if you paid more than $1 in tax up to about 2018, you paid more tax than Amazon?

If a person earned 50M in a year, paying just 1% is $500,000 which is more than 10x the average income of most people. So while you rot away paying 20% (or whatever) of your yearly income to pay $8000 worth of tax, they can pay a much less intrusive amount and pay roughly 6x total what you pay.

They might pay the most gross, but they pay the least per person. And guess what happens? Middle class gets hit with the biggest tax hikes.

There are ALOT of articles that discuss this:

Rich people dont owe anybody shyt, /story. Go get a job and start your own charity, and stop propping up government backed terrorism. The power to tax is the power to destroy, and most of the time it just ends up being the little guy.
 
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Don't tell me YOU actually feel you are the victim here?

Isn't it funny how you, someone who is white, I trying to tell someone who is Black how they should feel and respond to racism?

Get off your high horse and actually listen. Then maybe you'll open your closed off mind to reality.
All he seems to be saying is that to snuff out racism people need to stop making everything about skin color. Until we lose the hyphenated descriptors we will continue to have this stupid discussion. Why should I ever have to check a box with my race? Why should anyone describe themselves as _____ American? Why can’t they just say American? You can’t make progress by rehashing the same old tired claims. Don’t blame me for the actions of people I don’t even know from 150 years ago. Don’t ask me to pay for crap that happened 150 years ago. All those people are dead and gone. Time to move on. This is 2021, nobody is holding anyone down because they have pigmentation in their skin. That is absurd. If they are being held down maybe it’s because they present themselves as low life criminals instead of decent contributing citizens? Just a thought.
 
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Tell all those people from the libtardsRUS website to move to venezuala and start help that commie bullcrap country.
 
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And your pal Pedo Joe the dickhead loser and his merry band of village idiots called the Democrat party had 50 years to fix that…yet here we are. Still not on board with your idea of forced compassion. I prefer to be compassionate on my own terms and give my money to things I feel strongly about and zero dollars to things I am opposed to. Armed robbery by government is no different than armed robbery by a thug at the 7-11.
Lol aaand enter a broke US under your system. But real questions:

Let's say you stop paying tax. The govt downsizes. What happens to the military? The police? Govt documents like passports? Legislation that the govt looks after?

I like that you have so much confidence in people to do the right thing by their own free will. They won't. But it's good that you have faith.
 
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Rich people dont owe anybody shyt, /story. Go get a job and start your own charity, and stop propping up government backed terrorism. The power to tax is the power to destroy, and most of the time it just ends up being the little guy.
It’s easier for the have nots to drag people down to their level rather than trying to achieve their own success. Loser mentality.
 
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Don't tell me YOU actually feel you are the victim here?

Isn't it funny how you, someone who is white, I trying to tell someone who is Black how they should feel and respond to racism?

Get off your high horse and actually listen. Then maybe you'll open your closed off mind to reality.
All you do is stereotype people by skin pigment over and over again. MLK would pee on you.
 
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Tell all those people from the libtardsRUS website to move to venezuala and start help that commie bullcrap country.
Classic Ax1 response.

Like the time you called a journal liberal for a paper they didn't write. Remember that?
 
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It’s easier for the have nots to drag people down to their level rather than trying to achieve their own success. Loser mentality.
He is also naive as well, you figure since the launch of the War on Poverty during the 60s we would have had less poverty, yet trillions of stolen cash via government authoritarian thugs and poverty has only gotten worse. Hey, I got an idea, MORE MORE MORE!!!!!! LLLMMMFFFFAAOOOOOOO!!!!!
 
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Classic Ax1 response.

Like the time you called a journal liberal for a paper they didn't write. Remember that?
We spend 22 trillion dollars fighting the war on poverty and its been a total waste and disaster. Do you think 33 trillion will make things better? Come on man!
 
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All he seems to be saying is that to snuff out racism people need to stop making everything about skin color. Until we lose the hyphenated descriptors we will continue to have this stupid discussion. Why should I ever have to check a box with my race? Why should anyone describe themselves as _____ American? Why can’t they just say American? You can’t make progress by rehashing the same old tired claims. Don’t blame me for the actions of people I don’t even know from 150 years ago. Don’t ask me to pay for crap that happened 150 years ago. All those people are dead and gone. Time to move on. This is 2021, nobody is holding anyone down because they have pigmentation in their skin. That is absurd. If they are being held down maybe it’s because they present themselves as low life criminals instead of decent contributing citizens? Just a thought.
All of a sudden people push back and speak up, now you're trying to tell them there isn't a problem.

Sorry to tell you, but if millions of people are saying there is a problem, there is a problem.


But maybe you could go speak to them and tell them that it's not actually a problem. They might stop if they're made aware of your view
 
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Classic Ax1 response.

Like the time you called a journal liberal for a paper they didn't write. Remember that?
At least I dont bark about liberating blacks and then empowering government to take legal ownership of them. All hypocrisy.
 
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All of a sudden people push back and speak up, now you're trying to tell them there isn't a problem.

Sorry to tell you, but if millions of people are saying there is a problem, there is a problem.


But maybe you could go speak to them and tell them that it's not actually a problem. They might stop if they're made aware of your view
Nobody here is saying there isnt a problem. Millions of people are idiots who take no personal responsibility for themselves, offer no solutions and create more problems for themselves and everybody else.

Do you even know what its like to be poor, broke on homeless?
 
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At least I dont bark about liberating blacks and then empowering government to take legal ownership of them. All hypocrisy.
Sure thing bud
 
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Lol aaand enter a broke US under your system. But real questions:

Let's say you stop paying tax. The govt downsizes. What happens to the military? The police? Govt documents like passports? Legislation that the govt looks after?

I like that you have so much confidence in people to do the right thing by their own free will. They won't. But it's good that you have faith.
You dont give much thought, its not complicated to find ways of funding government agencies and programs. There is no reason to need to violate the very basic human right of having ownership of your own labor to pay for things. Until then, stop pretending to be woke and liberating black people because your white azz is only oppressing them more with your old whitey way of running things.
 
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Sure thing bud
Man, suit, badge, gun.......

Black man , sweat and work, surrender your money with no way to opt out.

Put a gun to their head and force them in a cage.

You are a bully. Shame on you for supporting slavery.
 
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Is freedom loving Thomas Stewell not black enough for you to absorb his opinion? Is he the type of black person you like to cancel out because he isnt in line with Whitey Woke Libtard big government Marxist ideology?
 
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Man, suit, badge, gun.......

Black man , sweat and work, surrender your money with no way to opt out.

Put a gun to their head and force them in a cage.

You are a bully. Shame on you for supporting slavery.
You are the most disillusioned person I've ever come across. The mental gymnastics you put your mind through to come to your conclusions to absolutely astounding.
 
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Anybody ever watch The Fresh Prince of Bel Air? Loved that growing up.

Any remember this scene and why it was so relatable to so many people?

 
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All of a sudden people push back and speak up, now you're trying to tell them there isn't a problem.

Sorry to tell you, but if millions of people are saying there is a problem, there is a problem.


But maybe you could go speak to them and tell them that it's not actually a problem. They might stop if they're made aware of your view
I just said what the problem was and gave a great way to stop said problem. Perhaps you need to reread that. Don’t tell me that you think by handing out more money in the form of reparations will all of the sudden make all their problems go away? What other program, benefit, scholarships, affirmative action, preference, or other program can we possibly give to make white liberals like you happy? So long as people see themselves as a skin color then that is all they will ever be. Me personally I am fed up with hyphenated America. I don’t see skin pigment as being relevant at any level. White liberals are the only ones clinging to this talking point.
 
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You are the most disillusioned person I've ever come across. The mental gymnastics you put your mind through to come to your conclusions to absolutely astounding.
Im not the one empowering people to shove the barrel of the gun down a black mans throat for not surrendering their honest hard earnings.
 
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Americans have been skewimg the terms Socialism, Marxism and Communism for as long as I can remember - which stems back to the Cold War Era. I literally cringe everytime I hear someone use those terms, especially because they are often used out of context or in the completely wrong capacity.
It doesn't take long into reading your posts to see you spinning like a circus plate juggler. As if meeting the exact definition of socialism or Marxism or communism (by your measure) means that is not the very direction the progressive leftists of the Democrat party (squad, BLM, etc.) are deliberately heading. You dodge and duck and deny this radical shift left with word games and woke nuance. Bah!

As if BLM leaders don't brag about their Marxist training (on video). As if the autonomous zones illegally created in Portland are not versions of communist/Marxist wet dreams of the left. As if Democrat governors and mayor's aren't deliberately looking the other way to allow it to happen. As if tearing down statues and rewriting history books isn't for this exact purpose, direct from the marxists/community manifestos.

Not sure who you are trying to con, but your arguments rely on biased liberal fake news and teary-eyed woke emotions. How about you focus on New Zealand and their issue with Chinese economic subjugation before trying to peddle that crap here?!?
 
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Woke white liberals….lol. Never cease to amaze me. How intellectually and morally superior they think they are is astonishing.
 
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Lol aaand enter a broke US under your system. But real questions:

Let's say you stop paying tax. The govt downsizes. What happens to the military? The police? Govt documents like passports? Legislation that the govt looks after?

I like that you have so much confidence in people to do the right thing by their own free will. They won't. But it's good that you have faith.
Perhaps they can start by defining essential and non essential. Minimizing the govt down to the lowest denominator. Tell me how robbing me at gun point to study the life of transgender people in Pakistan benefits me or america? Tell me how sending plane loads of cash to Iran helped me or america? Tell me how paying for some woke liberals liberal arts degree will help me or america? Dude we can go on and on and on on govt frivolous spending and you tell me how any normal thinking person would want to pay taxes for this ****? What percentage of our tax money ACTUALLY goes to fighting poverty, education, infrastructure, and things that benefit america vs wasted dollars funding asshole politicians pork projects?

You want people to get on board with your socialist utopia it’s quite simple. Make sure ALL the money is being used for no other purpose than the benefit of its citizens. I give a rats ass about the plight of Pakistani transgenders.
 
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What's the bet that a lot of you here are middle aged? Back when house prices cost 3-5x your annual salary vs the 10+ now? Back when wages, when adjusted for inflation, were much more than wages now? Back when the cost of living was a lot lower when adjusted for inflation? Back when you could walk into almost any job without formal training and just learn as you go?

Now, the average wage of workers has decreased, when adjusted for inflation and the cost of living is astronomical, when adjusted for inflation.

To make it worse, these same middle aged people are the ones calling the shots, telling others to "suck it up like we did" despite everything being much easier.
a lot of us lost our ass in 2008. i lost my longtime job making good money at international paper and was forced to cash in 401k at a huge loss due to stock market crash plus early withdrawal penalty plus double taxes. i was crushed, i had lost my lifes savings at at age 50, and had no prospects.... i spent many sleepless night on my knees praying.

we sold our house and moved to a small town and used proceeds from sell of house as start up funds for my business--the 1st few years we were barely able to eat and pay our bills....but boy we sure did have it good-eh?
 
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a lot of us lost our ass in 2008. i lost my longtime job making good money at international paper and was forced to cash in 401k at a huge loss due to stock market crash plus early withdrawal penalty plus double taxes. i was crushed, i had lost my lifes savings at at age 50, and had no prospects.... i spent many sleepless night on my knees praying.

we sold our house and moved to a small town and used proceeds from sell of house as start up funds for my business--the 1st few years we were barely able to eat and pay our bills....but boy we sure did have it good-eh?
Admit it. You cashed in your white privilege. There is no other explanation…or at least not another explanation that white liberals will accept.
 
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Admit it. You cashed in your white privilege. There is no other explanation…or at least not another explanation that white liberals will accept.
yup...imagine what i could have accomplished if i weren't so lazy and stupid.
 
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Actually Samuel L Jackson would say “What’s in your wallet motherfucker?”
thats nothing...snoop dog makes a rap video about murdering then president trump with automatic weapons and the gun hating left are all giddy...and now he is rewarded with tv commercials?


only in America.
 
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thats nothing...snoop dog makes a rap video about murdering then president trump with automatic weapons and the gun hating left are all giddy...and now he is rewarded with tv commercials?


only in America.
I think it would have been cooler to see him do commercials for gin and juice instead of Corona.
 
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Perhaps they can start by defining essential and non essential. Minimizing the govt down to the lowest denominator. Tell me how robbing me at gun point to study the life of transgender people in Pakistan benefits me or america? Tell me how sending plane loads of cash to Iran helped me or america? Tell me how paying for some woke liberals liberal arts degree will help me or america? Dude we can go on and on and on on govt frivolous spending and you tell me how any normal thinking person would want to pay taxes for this ****? What percentage of our tax money ACTUALLY goes to fighting poverty, education, infrastructure, and things that benefit america vs wasted dollars funding asshole politicians pork projects?

You want people to get on board with your socialist utopia it’s quite simple. Make sure ALL the money is being used for no other purpose than the benefit of its citizens. I give a rats ass about the plight of Pakistani transgenders.
Yeah good points. Thats exactly what I'd demand as well.

Shouldn't the end goal be a strong and united nation? I get that everyone has different views on how that is achieved, but if you constantly pigeonhole the less fortunate and make them suffer because they don't have the same opportunities you do, then don't get angry when they decide they've had enough.
 
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Don't tell me YOU actually feel you are the victim here?

Isn't it funny how you, someone who is white, I trying to tell someone who is Black how they should feel and respond to racism?

Get off your high horse and actually listen. Then maybe you'll open your closed off mind to reality.
The media already tried the game of “a white person will never understand“ utilizing a very popular reality show called “The Bachelor.”

It was quite the spectacle of propaganda which centered around the public shaming of a white girl on national TV. All very intentional and more than disgusting. Fortunately, people of all races recognized that and didn’t buy any of it. The first black bachelor made himself look like a complete a-hole in everyone’s eyes..

Nonetheless, always remember this:

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Yeah good points. Thats exactly what I'd demand as well.

Shouldn't the end goal be a strong and united nation? I get that everyone has different views on how that is achieved, but if you constantly pigeonhole the less fortunate and make them suffer because they don't have the same opportunities you do, then don't get angry when they decide they've had enough.
The poor and downtrodden are victims of frivolous govt spending. Not a lack of taxes, not a lack of taxpayers. The problem is the money is going into all the wrong places.
 

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shumer and pelosi both have dual citizenship with US/israel. interesting if they will join the 'squad in condemning israel?
Is that legit? Schumer, I get. He's Jewish. Pelosi is Italian. Why the heck would she have or be allowed dual citizenship.
 
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Is that legit? Schumer, I get. He's Jewish. Pelosi is Italian. Whey the **** would she have or be allowed dual citizenship.
it's pelosi's son in law--my mistake. thanks for pointing this out.
 
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Gentlemen: Without elaborating, under your account settings on this forum, there is a privacy setting that allows individuals the right to "ignore" (and not have to see/read) posts of others who post things that you find offensive, for example someone who posts things hoping only to poke the bear. In case that helps ...
 
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It doesn't take long into reading your posts to see you spinning like a circus plate juggler. As if meeting the exact definition of socialism or Marxism or communism (by your measure) means that is not the very direction the progressive leftists of the Democrat party (squad, BLM, etc.) are deliberately heading. You dodge and duck and deny this radical shift left with word games and woke nuance. Bah!

As if BLM leaders don't brag about their Marxist training (on video). As if the autonomous zones illegally created in Portland are not versions of communist/Marxist wet dreams of the left. As if Democrat governors and mayor's aren't deliberately looking the other way to allow it to happen. As if tearing down statues and rewriting history books isn't for this exact purpose, direct from the marxists/community manifestos.

Not sure who you are trying to con, but your arguments rely on biased liberal fake news and teary-eyed woke emotions. How about you focus on New Zealand and their issue with Chinese economic subjugation before trying to peddle that crap here?!?
This is the typical definition of what makes a socialist state: a system where the means of production, distribution and exchange are nationalised or under state ownership, or simply a system in which social values or workers' interests have economic priority.

In a true Communist state, the govt is authoritarian and there is no private ownership of anything.

That obviously does not apply to the US. A lot of people prefer private ownership of things. Most liberals I know believe in the idea of class structure, but where they draw the line at companies, who have literally said increasing wages for their bottom line wouldn't hurt them, but refuse to do so anyway.

The reality is, like I said before, you guys grew up at a time where wages were relatively high and costs of living were relatively low, house prices cost 3-5x your annual salary and that the entry requirements for entry level jobs did not require a degree or more to enter. If wages had stayed in line with when you guys were younger, people wouldn't be complaining so much. Its really not that difficult.

The average income of a family in 1970 is the same as it is now - and that is despite house prices and the cost of living rising exponentially in that time.
 
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The poor and downtrodden are victims of frivolous govt spending. Not a lack of taxes, not a lack of taxpayers. The problem is the money is going into all the wrong places.
Yeah, you're not wrong.

The phrase divide and conquer is absolutely accurate in politics. If the powers that be can make you mad at each other for their policies, guess who wins? They do. Every. Single. Time.

People are weaker divided than they are as a collective. So they exaggerate the differences to keep you mad at the other. And it works
 
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The minimum wage was 1.60 in 1971, which equates to $11 p/hr today
 
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This is the typical definition of what makes a socialist state: a system where the means of production, distribution and exchange are nationalised or under state ownership, or simply a system in which social values or workers' interests have economic priority.

In a true Communist state, the govt is authoritarian and there is no private ownership of anything.

That obviously does not apply to the US. A lot of people prefer private ownership of things. Most liberals I know believe in the idea of class structure, but where they draw the line at companies, who have literally said increasing wages for their bottom line wouldn't hurt them, but refuse to do so anyway.

The reality is, like I said before, you guys grew up at a time where wages were relatively high and costs of living were relatively low, house prices cost 3-5x your annual salary and that the entry requirements for entry level jobs did not require a degree or more to enter. If wages had stayed in line with when you guys were younger, people wouldn't be complaining so much. Its really not that difficult.

The average income of a family in 1970 is the same as it is now - and that is despite house prices and the cost of living rising exponentially in that time.
Jiiigzz - Funny how I specifically listed socialism, marxism, and communism.... and you only replied with a definition of socialism and communism. Duck, dodge, deny. Spew a wave of new emotional crap. Ignore anything that makes you or your argument or your principles look flawed and foolish.

The part you DELIBERATELY ignored was about MARXISM. The principles of Marxism being - "Opposition to an economic system based on inequality and on the alienation and exploitation of the majority (by means of the system of wage labor), a system whose purpose is to obtain profits for some people rather than satisfying the needs of all."

Here is video showing BLM leaders explaining they are trained organizers, trained Marxists.

And if you look at the definition of Marxism (per Oxford) it is the anticapitalist politicial and economic theories of Karl Marx, advocating socialism and communism. And we come full circle. Ta Da!!

Exactly what you and this new twisted wave of progressive libtard democrats keep preaching. As if the Bernie Sanders movement (roughly half of the modern Democrat party) doesn't specifically advocate for the advancement of socialist ideals.

Here is the current Vice President Chuckles McClown trying to laugh off her radical far left socialist ideology on 60 minutes.

Plus you pulled your typical duck/dodge/deny to my other very specific examples in the prior post you selectively ignored. It was typed clearly in black and white (no pun intended)....

As if BLM leaders don't brag about their Marxist training. As if the autonomous zones illegally created in Portland are not versions of communist/Marxist wet dreams of the left. As if Democrat governors and mayor's aren't deliberately looking the other way to allow it to happen. As if tearing down statues and rewriting history books isn't for this exact purpose, direct from the marxist/communist manifestos.

Not sure who you are trying to con, but your arguments rely on biased liberal fake news and teary-eyed woke emotions. How about you focus on New Zealand and their issue with Chinese economic subjugation before trying to peddle that crap here?!?
 
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This is the typical definition of what makes a socialist state: a system where the means of production, distribution and exchange are nationalised or under state ownership, or simply a system in which social values or workers' interests have economic priority.

In a true Communist state, the govt is authoritarian and there is no private ownership of anything.

That obviously does not apply to the US. A lot of people prefer private ownership of things. Most liberals I know believe in the idea of class structure, but where they draw the line at companies, who have literally said increasing wages for their bottom line wouldn't hurt them, but refuse to do so anyway.

The reality is, like I said before, you guys grew up at a time where wages were relatively high and costs of living were relatively low, house prices cost 3-5x your annual salary and that the entry requirements for entry level jobs did not require a degree or more to enter. If wages had stayed in line with when you guys were younger, people wouldn't be complaining so much. Its really not that difficult.

The average income of a family in 1970 is the same as it is now - and that is despite house prices and the cost of living rising exponentially in that time.
Liberals are just big bullies who pretend to love freedom but fuel mass division through ultra authoritarian policies and use power and force to force their ways on everybody else. They all belong in prison for mass humanitarian crimes, and that doesnt even include for their mass murdering wars they all prop up and support making them genocidal criminals.
 
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The minimum wage was 1.60 in 1971, which equates to $11 p/hr today
Go to school, and dont take stupid libtard social justice warrior classes. Learn real skillz that help you be competitive in the real world and most importantly dont be a lazy piece of crap who wants everything for nothing.

Do you even know what its like to be poor?
 

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