Donald Trump running for president
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Jiigzz
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Big difference between a novel and the Bible
thebigt
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nice deflection---are you a atheist?
Jiigzz
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Jiigzz
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Agnostic
Jiigzz
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Real question, when you go to church and the pastor reads from the Bible, do they read the whole thing from start to finish, or do they pick out nice scriptures?
Because in the 20 odd years I went to Church, the pastor always picked out 1 or 2 scriptures a week (and funnily enough missed the controversial ones), yet somehow those ones were fine to read on their own, but the second anyone quotes controversial ones its "Oh that's out of context"
Because in the 20 odd years I went to Church, the pastor always picked out 1 or 2 scriptures a week (and funnily enough missed the controversial ones), yet somehow those ones were fine to read on their own, but the second anyone quotes controversial ones its "Oh that's out of context"
ax1
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I predict soon to be nationwide Vax passports (they already have then in NY, thanks China!)
And I also predict mandatory seasonal CCP-Virus booster shots, this crap aint going anywhere if you want to do certain things in life, and they dont want it to be.
‘Double mutant’ COVID-19 strain emerges in California
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And I also predict mandatory seasonal CCP-Virus booster shots, this crap aint going anywhere if you want to do certain things in life, and they dont want it to be.
‘Double mutant’ COVID-19 strain emerges in California
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ax1
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The top issue should be 801 years ago Africa invaded Sicily and I want my Repartitions BBIIIAAAAATTTCCCCHHHHHH!!!!!!!
Beau
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As a general comment, my personal experience shows that, almost without exception:
(1) those who object most strenuously to the Bible have never actually read it, and
(2) those who extract parts of scripture, frequently (and intentionally) do so to for the purposes of supporting a pre-determined position, frequently taking extracts outside of the original Biblical context - all with the intention of attempting to invalidate the entire Bible, not understand the scripture in question (if they cam make one thing look wrong, then they conclude that the entire thing must be wrong), and
(3) those who draw incorrect summaries fail to understand (and have no intention of understanding) the historical meaning of the terminology as it existed in Biblical times, and assign words and phrases a contemporary meaning.
The problem gets worse as others frequently rely on the misinterpretations and misstatements made by these self-appointed scholars and use them as the basis for their own beliefs. It is like the "telephone game", except that it starts from flawed conclusions from inception, and then becomes more mistaken over time.
Oh, and most of the time, references are made to the Old Testament, not to the new covenant.
The next time someone alleges that the Bible is full of conflicts and inconsistencies - ask them to give you a few examples. You are very likely to be rewarded by blank and confused looking faces. They "got nothing", because they have simply relied on generalized locker room legend created by those intended only to excuse themselves from being subject to God's laws. When I have heard others claim that the Bible is full of conflicts and inconsistencies, I have offered to help research the conflicts and have asked them to give me one or two areas that bother them the most. I have never had anyone respond with anything specific or tangible. The few responses I have received are usually something they "think" is in the Bible, but that is not.
Words and context have meaning. Ignoring them will always lead to erroneous conclusions.
(1) those who object most strenuously to the Bible have never actually read it, and
(2) those who extract parts of scripture, frequently (and intentionally) do so to for the purposes of supporting a pre-determined position, frequently taking extracts outside of the original Biblical context - all with the intention of attempting to invalidate the entire Bible, not understand the scripture in question (if they cam make one thing look wrong, then they conclude that the entire thing must be wrong), and
(3) those who draw incorrect summaries fail to understand (and have no intention of understanding) the historical meaning of the terminology as it existed in Biblical times, and assign words and phrases a contemporary meaning.
The problem gets worse as others frequently rely on the misinterpretations and misstatements made by these self-appointed scholars and use them as the basis for their own beliefs. It is like the "telephone game", except that it starts from flawed conclusions from inception, and then becomes more mistaken over time.
Oh, and most of the time, references are made to the Old Testament, not to the new covenant.
The next time someone alleges that the Bible is full of conflicts and inconsistencies - ask them to give you a few examples. You are very likely to be rewarded by blank and confused looking faces. They "got nothing", because they have simply relied on generalized locker room legend created by those intended only to excuse themselves from being subject to God's laws. When I have heard others claim that the Bible is full of conflicts and inconsistencies, I have offered to help research the conflicts and have asked them to give me one or two areas that bother them the most. I have never had anyone respond with anything specific or tangible. The few responses I have received are usually something they "think" is in the Bible, but that is not.
Words and context have meaning. Ignoring them will always lead to erroneous conclusions.
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thebigt
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years ago i attended a catholic college in the phillippines-st columban, a mandatory class was theology. i told the priest i was having trouble with parts of the bible that seemed contradictory to me---what he told me i something i will never forget and a practice i have followed every since- he told me to 'say a prayer for understanding before opening the bible'.
thebigt
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unfortunately all of those topics have become political.
Jiigzz
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Awesome responses man. Appreciate your input!
Ricky10
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Bah! These variant and mutant strain scares are beyond ridiculous. They just keep coming up/identifying new variants after the last one they coined didn’t ravage the country. The only people talking about them are the media. Never have they been a topic of concern or conversation at my hospital as we continue to see hospitalizations dwindle- as expected.
As much as the China virus sucks for people like myself in a hospital setting, everyone is pandemic burnt out. Time to move on!
Speaking of moving on, anyone that still has a BLM sign on their front lawn has some serious issues
dixonk
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I wish I could boycott it...but I never watched it to begin with. I don’t have time to watch 4 hours of guys adjusting their gloves, fake swinging their bats, and spitting. I would rather watch paint dry on the walls.
thebigt
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it's kinda funny how much sports were a part of my life as a kid both playing and watching live and on tv...and now the only sports i care about are my grandkids t-ball games....
well, my wife and i did enjoy the nascar dirt race at bristol last week.
THOR 70
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Link?
Beau
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Beau
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According to news reports, Pete Buttigieg (our Secretary of Transportation) was involved in a staged event designed to make it appear as if he was riding a bicycle to work. Invalid Link Removed
"Secretary of Transportation Pete Buttigieg was accused by conservative critics of attempting to stage a photo op on Thursday after a video showed security staffers unloading his bike from an SUV at the White House."
Apparently, a CNN White House correspondent has a video showing security personnel removing Pete Buttigieg's bike from the back of the vehicle, and then showing a pair of SUVs following closely behind Buttigieg as he biked toward his destination.
This seems misleading and dishonest; you know, as if Pete Buttigieg wanted others to believe that he was riding his bike to work, when he was not actually riding his bike to work, Well, that is certainly a disappointment from such a highly esteemed Democrap leader. Sort of reminds us of Kamala Harris and the border.
"Secretary of Transportation Pete Buttigieg was accused by conservative critics of attempting to stage a photo op on Thursday after a video showed security staffers unloading his bike from an SUV at the White House."
Apparently, a CNN White House correspondent has a video showing security personnel removing Pete Buttigieg's bike from the back of the vehicle, and then showing a pair of SUVs following closely behind Buttigieg as he biked toward his destination.
This seems misleading and dishonest; you know, as if Pete Buttigieg wanted others to believe that he was riding his bike to work, when he was not actually riding his bike to work, Well, that is certainly a disappointment from such a highly esteemed Democrap leader. Sort of reminds us of Kamala Harris and the border.
ax1
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He got a email from yahoo, wtf, you want his account password? LOL
ax1
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Who wants to move to beautiful New York Neeeeewwwww YYYooorkkk????
Frank Sinatra would be so proud of wonderful new york.
We just passed a 212 Billion dollar budget, up from 194 billion last year. In comparison Florida has a 94 billion dollar budget, they have 2 more million people than we do and they have no State Income Tax!!!!!!!!
Soooooo..............not only are they raising taxes on the "rich and greedy" but guess who is getting 2.1 billion dollars????
Unemployed law breaking criminal illegal immigrants!!!!! Yiiippppiiieeee
(New York Post) $2.1 billion “Excluded Workers Fund” for illegal immigrants.
Another sticking point is the “Excluded Workers Fund” for illegal immigrants ineligible for federal coronavirus relief funds, which led to an impasse between progressive New York City Democrats and moderate Democrats from upstate and suburban districts.
Frank Sinatra would be so proud of wonderful new york.
We just passed a 212 Billion dollar budget, up from 194 billion last year. In comparison Florida has a 94 billion dollar budget, they have 2 more million people than we do and they have no State Income Tax!!!!!!!!
Soooooo..............not only are they raising taxes on the "rich and greedy" but guess who is getting 2.1 billion dollars????
Unemployed law breaking criminal illegal immigrants!!!!! Yiiippppiiieeee
(New York Post) $2.1 billion “Excluded Workers Fund” for illegal immigrants.
Another sticking point is the “Excluded Workers Fund” for illegal immigrants ineligible for federal coronavirus relief funds, which led to an impasse between progressive New York City Democrats and moderate Democrats from upstate and suburban districts.
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Misfit28
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I mean you have heard of supply and demand, right? It's amazing to me when conservatives are so supportive of the free market and then bitch when it works. The country is opening back up (which is poorly advised IMO), and therefore the demand is increasing, which increases the price. Come on now. Duh.
EDIT: My quote didn't show up. Anyways it was from the posts complaining about gas prices and how it must somehow be Biden's fault LOL.
EDIT: My quote didn't show up. Anyways it was from the posts complaining about gas prices and how it must somehow be Biden's fault LOL.
ax1
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Most conservatives dont support free markets, they support and prop up big government corrupt socialist and corporatism/fascist markets with some elements of "free markets."
dixonk
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Remind me again what the price of gas was pre fake news virus? I don’t remember gas being above $3 bucks at anytime during the Orange man presidency. The minute the pedophile swore in though the gas started going up. I would say that means it’s his fault.
Misfit28
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It's literally the same damn answer. The demand was less, so was the price. Duh.
dixonk
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The demand was less before the virus when the economy was at an all time high and growing at record pace???
Misfit28
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And by the way correlation =/= causation. Quit reducing things to a binary position.
Misfit28
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Maybe you should look at data before making such sweeping statements. Gas DID go up under trump, and has been since April 2020.
"Gas prices were similar to or higher than their current level for much of the time between October 2017 and January 2020 — that is, more than two years of Trump’s presidency. Prices were higher than today for all of the time between March 2018 and November 2018, and all of the time between April 2019 and August 2019."
Bottom line: Presidents don't determine gas prices. If you want to blame someone, blame OPEC. I didn't blame trump when the gas prices went up during his presidency. I guess maybe I can just see the bigger picture.
Misfit28
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Oh and while you're at it, quit making fallacious arguments to attempt to prove your point. Calling Biden a pedophile is just silly. Can you actually prove that sensational claim, or is it just your and the right-wing media opinion? I seriously despise when people just throw false crap into an argument to bolster their point. It gives me insight into your mentality and worldview, though.
BamBam54
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If you want to pretend that Biden stopping the keystone pipeline on Day 1, freezing all new drilling permits on Day 1, his goal to declare the US carbon free by 2035, and removing the terrorist label from Houthi Rebels (who promptly attacked a Saudi refinery) as having no effect on gas pricing??? Then fine... other than ALL THAT it's just ordinary supply and demand and Biden's massive green agenda and foreign policy has no effect at all on gas pricing.
Sheeeesh!!!
ax1
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He is worse than a pedophile, he is a mass murdering terrorist and has murdered more children over the past half century than any other living leader on the current globe.
Fuq him, he is a pure low life satanist piece of crap and deserves to rot the rest of his days in Gitmo for mass humanitarian crimes.
ax1
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ax1
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If anything we should produce our own gas independently and tell OPEC to go fuq themselves.
Misfit28
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I guess you just don't get it either. Look it up if you don't believe me.
Can you prove that is why the Houthis attacked the Saudi refinery?
BTW, it's carbon-free electricity. HUGE difference from entirely carbon-free as you so erroneously implied.
And for your point about the XL Pipeline causing a gas price hike? It just isn't true. Prove me wrong. I mean really prove me wrong using data that the cancellation of the Keystone Pipeline is directly affecting the price of a barrel of oil.
Can you prove that is why the Houthis attacked the Saudi refinery?
BTW, it's carbon-free electricity. HUGE difference from entirely carbon-free as you so erroneously implied.
And for your point about the XL Pipeline causing a gas price hike? It just isn't true. Prove me wrong. I mean really prove me wrong using data that the cancellation of the Keystone Pipeline is directly affecting the price of a barrel of oil.
ax1
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Yeah its not 100% bad, sucks my life savings is reduced. This (printing trillions out of thin air) is how they raise taxes on people without calling it a "tax" and people fall for it.
ax1
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What? Groper Joe being a mass murdering terrorist? Thats not specious, this is a historical fact. He is a corrupt mass murdering terrorist and there is no evidence showing otherwise.
BamBam54
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Proof that the Houthi attack March 19th on Saudi Arabia directly affected oil prices
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And this news story covers Houthi attacks starting again days after Biden removes terror designation. The Saudi refinery attack was one month later.
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Trump put the terror designation on the Houthi rebels to try and restrict their access to weapons from Iran that are used in these attacks. Biden set up the original JCPOA deal with Iran, removing sanctions. Less sanctions on Iran and the Houthi rebels = more access to cash and weapons for attacks.
And now we have more attacks on Saudi oil facilities that contributed to higher prices. If you refuse to see that, it's a personal issue.
Here is an article explaining how market speculation drives higher gas prices. And its clear that stopping pipe lines and freezing new oil drilling permits, and pushing a green agenda to reduce oil consumption will drive market speculation that raises gas prices at the pump...
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But none of this evidence laid out above really matters to the Dem Liberal indoctrinated masses. Common sense and facts always lose to political ideology. Carry on... its only going to get worse.
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And this news story covers Houthi attacks starting again days after Biden removes terror designation. The Saudi refinery attack was one month later.
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Trump put the terror designation on the Houthi rebels to try and restrict their access to weapons from Iran that are used in these attacks. Biden set up the original JCPOA deal with Iran, removing sanctions. Less sanctions on Iran and the Houthi rebels = more access to cash and weapons for attacks.
And now we have more attacks on Saudi oil facilities that contributed to higher prices. If you refuse to see that, it's a personal issue.
Here is an article explaining how market speculation drives higher gas prices. And its clear that stopping pipe lines and freezing new oil drilling permits, and pushing a green agenda to reduce oil consumption will drive market speculation that raises gas prices at the pump...
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But none of this evidence laid out above really matters to the Dem Liberal indoctrinated masses. Common sense and facts always lose to political ideology. Carry on... its only going to get worse.