Vaccine, anyone?

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I got my first Moderna dose last week. So far I have noticed better pumps, increased libido, an overall feeling of wellbeing, and a little pip soreness. From what I understand, the real gains come with the second dose.
absolutely the best post of entire thread!!! :love:
 
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I got my first Moderna dose last week. So far I have noticed better pumps, increased libido, an overall feeling of wellbeing, and a little pip soreness. From what I understand, the real gains come with the second dose.
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I got my first Moderna dose last week. So far I have noticed better pumps, increased libido, an overall feeling of wellbeing, and a little pip soreness. From what I understand, the real gains come with the second dose.
🤣🤣 quality posting sir
 
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I got my first Moderna dose last week. So far I have noticed better pumps, increased libido, an overall feeling of wellbeing, and a little pip soreness. From what I understand, the real gains come with the second dose.
Moderna offering up some Test U?!
 
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It’s amazing that you guys would trust a scientist to tell you about biochem as it pertains to PEDs but not vaccines. Also, if you’ve had other vaccines in the past it’s likely you’ve had an adenovirus vaccine, which is the J&J type. Furthermore the J&J adenovirus5 tech in particular was used in their ebola virus vaccine a few years ago. There’s just no evidence to suggest significant negative side effects of any kind. AstraZeneca’s is an interesting development but we neither need it nor fully understand the possible complications with it (ie take another one instead).
 
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yesterday was 1 week since my wife and i tested positive for covid...besides some shortness of breath we are both feeling pretty good....neither of us smoke or drink and have been taking vit c and d, tumeric, quality vit/mineral, and elderberry.
 
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yesterday was 1 week since my wife and i tested positive for covid...besides some shortness of breath we are both feeling pretty good....neither of us smoke or drink and have been taking vit c and d, tumeric, quality vit/mineral, and elderberry.
Glad to hear. For 99% of people, this virus doesn’t justify a vaccine.
 

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my wife and i felt like we had a bad cold so last friday we went and got tested-we were positive for covid...we have been in isolation at our lakeside cabin since then...we are both feeling much better and the only symptom we are having is slightly more shorthness of breath than normal--but this isn't stopping us from our hiking, cutting down and burning dead trees around our property and my doing situps, burpees and chinups.

my wife is 63 and i am 6 months away from 63.

life is good--we are enjoying our retirement. :D
My father had it. For him it was a cold.

I also fell ill few days after him, tested negative but am not convinced.
Anyway, i felt like i weighed 500 lbs (extreme fatigue) for 3 days and thats about it. Played on the cautious side and stayed home, rested etc.
 
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My father had it. For him it was a cold.

I also fell ill few days after him, tested negative but am not convinced.
Anyway, i felt like i weighed 500 lbs (extreme fatigue) for 3 days and thats about it. Played on the cautious side and stayed home, rested etc.
1st off happy to hear your father is doing well, and you also!!


we are being good citizens and are going to be in total quarantine at the lake house for the full 14 days, we understand that not everyone will be treated as mildly by the covid....our kids are dropping off needed supplies at end of lane for us.

actually getting away from people is kinda nice, except for missing the grandkids....retiring when we did was great timing!!!
 
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Bet those 2.6 million globally dead would beg to differ and the family members of those who lost someone.

But that 1% doesn’t matter, evidently.
Must be exhausting living in irrational fear like this. Millions die every year and it’s 100% not provable that all those were solely due to the corona virus. I like to think with logic, not emotions.
 
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Bet those 2.6 million globally dead would beg to differ and the family members of those who lost someone.

But that 1% doesn’t matter, evidently.
in early 2019 a publication from the global burden of disease study [GBD] estimated a range of between 99,000 to 200,000 deaths per year directly related to infuenza....how many people have died from influenza since january of 2019, or are influenza deaths being counted as due to covid?

even if only 50 people had died from covid it would have been heartbreaking for the families and loved ones who had died...my pregnant daughter, her husband and my granddaughter were almost killed by a drunk driver, i have extreme empathy for those who have lost loved ones.
 
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Must be exhausting living in irrational fear like this. Millions die every year and it’s 100% not provable that all those were solely due to the corona virus. I like to think with logic, not emotions.
Again, you’re posts drip with irony - who is fear mongering now? Your ego thinks you’re woke and your “rationale” trumps all others. Literal Dunning-Kruger. But, go on.. tell everyone else they’re wrong lol

Don’t get it twisted, friend. My faith has me rooted, I don’t walk in fear. I care for those who could pass from catching covid, so I wear a mask for them, not my self.

Let me ask you this, since you’re a professing Christian. Do you think Jesus would wear a mask? You know, go out of his way to help others...

The same people who yell don’t live in fear carry a gun lol the irony is funny.
 
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Again, you’re posts drip with irony - who is fear mongering now? Your ego thinks you’re woke and your “rationale” trumps all others. Literal Dunning-Kruger. But, go on.. tell everyone else they’re wrong lol

Don’t get it twisted, friend. My faith has me rooted, I don’t walk in fear. I care for those who could pass from catching covid, so I wear a mask for them, not my self.

Let me ask you this, since you’re a professing Christian. Do you think Jesus would wear a mask? You know, go out of his way to help others...

The same people who yell don’t live in fear carry a gun lol the irony is funny.
Nothing I posted ever pointed to me not caring of lost lives. YOU made that emotional false assumption to build your whole fear based narrative upon.

You logic is is based on emotions and thinking that your actions are saving others lives. This is self righteous and putting your faith in yourself...virtue signal much? THEN you have the audacity to mirror your actions to what your selfish mind constructs the Creator of the universe would do? BLASPHEMY!

You’ve just demonstrated that liberalism and christianity clearly can’t coincide.
 
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Nothing I posted ever pointed to me not caring of lost lives. YOU made that emotional false assumption to build your whole fear based narrative upon.

You logic is is based on emotions and thinking that your actions are saving others lives. This is self righteous and putting your faith in yourself...virtue signal much? THEN you have the audacity to mirror your actions to what your selfish mind constructs the Creator of the universe would do? BLASPHEMY!

You’ve just demonstrated that liberalism and christianity clearly can’t coincide.
You’re over reaching, great red herring though - deflection at its finest. Again, you use your “fear” megaphone to springboard YOUR narrative.

Stay on topic. YOU said 1% die and a vaccine shouldn’t be made. That 1% is negligible (sure, an assumption I made from your statement).

Logic based on emotion? Empathy coincides with the fruits of the spirit, I would hope all would have empathy OR sympathize lol But I guess your IQ overrides your EQ?

Try again, friend.

Edit* I should mention, therapeutics should be the main focus IMO. There are multiple vaccines authorized for use, now they should refocus on helping people who’ve contracted the virus and the vaccine can not help.
 
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We have a flu vaccine despite the percentage deaths from influenza being the same or lower than covid........so if a safe vaccine is available then I don’t see how anyone can argue against that being used to prevent covid deaths

now the safety and way it was developed can be debated (and I’m not suggesting anything either way on that), but the principle of vaccination to avoid deaths from covid is tough to argue against surely?

interestingly the UK hasn’t recorded a single case of influenza since the start of the year (well we hadn’t a few weeks back when it was reported)......and that’s not because it is being reported as covid, that’s actually because the lockdowns have virtually eliminated it (it’s actually a problem for the scientists as they are struggling to make next years flu vaccine as they have very little info on these years strains)...........now the interesting point this raises is how many of the influenza deaths we ‘accept’ each year are actually avoidable?

At one end of the scale a full lockdown year round would avoid them all (but clearly isn’t sustainable or an option) but at the other end, does some form of continuing social distancing (masks for example) have some justification if it would prevent 30,000 uk flu deaths each year??

im not offering a view on that, just that it raises an interesting question where what was deemed unavoidable death, maybe isn’t so unavoidable
 
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I'm educating myself and learning more about the current situation in the US. Or in the Colorado at least.
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Supossedly Marvin Hagler died yesterday after COVID vaccine, I guess we'll find out for sure.

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Millions of people will die after a covid vaccine, I myself being one of them. The question is whether or not the vaccine had a damn thing to do with it.

Hell, multiple people had heart attacks in the placebo group in the vaccine trials. Saline injections cause myocardial infarctions!
 
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Supossedly Marvin Hagler died yesterday after COVID vaccine, I guess we'll find out for sure.

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I saw he passed, but because I’m subbed to a boxing forum. That sucks.
 
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My wife got here 1st Moderna vaccine yesterday, she was in and out in less than a half an hour with no problems.
 
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My wife got here 1st Moderna vaccine yesterday, she was in and out in less than a half an hour with no problems.
my wife and i both wish her well!!!
 
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We have a flu vaccine despite the percentage deaths from influenza being the same or lower than covid........so if a safe vaccine is available then I don’t see how anyone can argue against that being used to prevent covid deaths

now the safety and way it was developed can be debated (and I’m not suggesting anything either way on that), but the principle of vaccination to avoid deaths from covid is tough to argue against surely?

interestingly the UK hasn’t recorded a single case of influenza since the start of the year (well we hadn’t a few weeks back when it was reported)......and that’s not because it is being reported as covid, that’s actually because the lockdowns have virtually eliminated it (it’s actually a problem for the scientists as they are struggling to make next years flu vaccine as they have very little info on these years strains)...........now the interesting point this raises is how many of the influenza deaths we ‘accept’ each year are actually avoidable?

At one end of the scale a full lockdown year round would avoid them all (but clearly isn’t sustainable or an option) but at the other end, does some form of continuing social distancing (masks for example) have some justification if it would prevent 30,000 uk flu deaths each year??

im not offering a view on that, just that it raises an interesting question where what was deemed unavoidable death, maybe isn’t so unavoidable
Your first sentence is the smoking gun. The efficacy rates for flu vaccines are really low, some years 0%. Paired with the fact the flu is harmless for most people with reasonably good health. Then then you must ask, why a vaccine in the first place? I can assure you it’s sinister.

When will we call it good? When we are getting 10+ vaccines every year just in case?
 
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Millions of people will die after a covid vaccine, I myself being one of them. The question is whether or not the vaccine had a damn thing to do with it.

Hell, multiple people had heart attacks in the placebo group in the vaccine trials. Saline injections cause myocardial infarctions!
Although you’re trying to be cheeky, you’re correct with the first sentence. It could take years for the immune related side effects to take root/develop from the vaccine (autoimmunity, cancer, etc) This is great for reducing liability to the manufacture and is surely by design. They are relatively untouchable anyways the way it was rolled out.
 
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Your first sentence is the smoking gun. The efficacy rates for flu vaccines are really low, some years 0%. Paired with the fact the flu is harmless for most people with reasonably good health. Then then you must ask, why a vaccine in the first place? I can assure you it’s sinister.

When will we call it good? When we are getting 10+ vaccines every year just in case?
Your first sentence is the smoking gun. The efficacy rates for flu vaccines are really low, some years 0%. Paired with the fact the flu is harmless for most people with reasonably good health. Then then you must ask, why a vaccine in the first place? I can assure you it’s sinister.

When will we call it good? When we are getting 10+ vaccines every year just in case?
The flu vaccine reduces severity of illness even if you catch the flu despite getting it. Efficacy isnt entirely based solely on preventing infection in the first place, in this case.

You can assure that it’s sinister? Oh boy...how so?

Although you’re trying to be cheeky, you’re correct with the first sentence. It could take years for the immune related side effects to take root/develop from the vaccine (autoimmunity, cancer, etc) This is great for reducing liability to the manufacture and is surely by design. They are relatively untouchable anyways the way it was rolled out.
Autoimmunity can develop after literally any vaccine or any acute illness. Or even for seemingly no reason/trigger at all.

If youre one of those folks that doesnt trust the mRNA tech - fine, whatever you wanna believe. Whats your beef with the J&J vacc? Not new tech whatsoever. Tested in tens of thousands of people against multiple strains in multiple countries.
 
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The flu vaccine reduces severity of illness even if you catch the flu despite getting it. Efficacy isnt entirely based solely on preventing infection in the first place, in this case.

You can assure that it’s sinister? Oh boy...how so?



Autoimmunity can develop after literally any vaccine or any acute illness. Or even for seemingly no reason/trigger at all.

If youre one of those folks that doesnt trust the mRNA tech - fine, whatever you wanna believe. Whats your beef with the J&J vacc? Not new tech whatsoever. Tested in tens of thousands of people against multiple strains in multiple countries.
if you go to get vaccination for covid do they give you option of which vaccine you get or take it or leave it?
 
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if you go to get vaccination for covid do they give you option of which vaccine you get or take it or leave it?
When you sign up the vacc site that’s listed shows what vaccine is offered there, at least in IN.
 
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When you sign up the vacc site that’s listed shows what vaccine is offered there, at least in IN.
looks like the J@J is pretty limited. i wonder how long[if ever]you can make a appointment requesting the vaccine of your choice?
 
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if you go to get vaccination for covid do they give you option of which vaccine you get or take it or leave it?
They asked me which one I wanted. They had Pfizer, Moderna and was waiting on a shipment of J&J.
 
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if i were to get one it would be j@j for sure.
Yeah, I’m on the waiting list for it. Immuno-compromised checking in lol

My pops got his second shot of Moderna Friday, besides feeling general malaise and worn out he’s doing okay.
 
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looks like the J@J is pretty limited. i wonder how long[if ever]you can make a appointment requesting the vaccine of your choice?
It’ll happen eventually. The J&J just got approval fairly recently so give em a bit more time, it’ll get nearby within a month or so. After i posted i got on the IN vacc site and there were maybe two sites around indy but youre definitely right, much more of the mRNAs right now. They have been approved for much longer so thats not really surprising at this point.
 
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It’ll happen eventually. The J&J just got approval fairly recently so give em a bit more time, it’ll get nearby within a month or so. After i posted i got on the IN vacc site and there were maybe two sites around indy but youre definitely right, much more of the mRNAs right now. They have been approved for much longer so thats not really surprising at this point.
if i do down the road decide to get the vaccine it will certainly be the [email protected] won't be for awhile for sure since i just tested positive a little more than a week ago...

hey, i really appreciate you taking the time to look this up-thank you!!!
 
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Yeah, I’m on the waiting list for it. Immuno-compromised checking in lol

My pops got his second shot of Moderna Friday, besides feeling general malaise and worn out he’s doing okay.
good luck to you both!!!

so many people i am praying for these days, but will add you and your dad into a general prayer for covid!!!
 
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I just find ironic, if true about Hagler, that he died from a jab...
People can argue all they want about what it does, or does not do.
The issue is if under 70, in good health, why be forced to take it (which so far most of us are not forced).

My brother-inlaw passed on SAT from Cancer in front of us at home (horrendous) in talking to the nurses, many did not want to get it, but of course had to or "loss of job" was threatened. They also said hospitals were very empty during all of this (these are huge Boston hospitals BTW) and only ones in COVID ward were elderly from the nursing homes. Even then, tons of empty beds, not the farce (lies) the libturd media threw out there daily.
 
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I just find ironic, if true about Hagler, that he died from a jab...
People can argue all they want about what it does, or does not do.
The issue is if under 70, in good health, why be forced to take it (which so far most of us are not forced).

My brother-inlaw passed on SAT from Cancer in front of us at home (horrendous) in talking to the nurses, many did not want to get it, but of course had to or "loss of job" was threatened. They also said hospitals were very empty during all of this (these are huge Boston hospitals BTW) and only ones in COVID ward were elderly from the nursing homes. Even then, tons of empty beds, not the farce (lies) the libturd media threw out there daily.
really sorry to hear about your brother-in law...my best regards to you and your family-cancer is a real MFer!!!


you can bet that by september more pressure will be on to coerce people into getting vaccines....my wife and i tested positive 8 days ago and i don't know how long the wait is for vaccine after being positive, but we will in all likelihood be getting the J@J vaccine when available so we will be able to do the things we like to do without restrictions from the government.

my fear is this is a slippery slope?
 
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really sorry to hear about your brother-in law...my best regards to you and your family-cancer is a real MFer!!!


you can bet that by september more pressure will be on to coerce people into getting vaccines....my wife and i tested positive 8 days ago and i don't know how long the wait is for vaccine after being positive, but we will in all likelihood be getting the J@J vaccine when available so we will be able to do the things we like to do without restrictions from the government.

my fear is this is a slippery slope?
Freedom taken away is Never returned willingly.
 
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Freedom taken away is Never returned willingly.
i have seen quite a few people who said they would not get the vaccine getting the vaccine because of coercion...the coercion is going to get much worse-bet on it.

whats next???
 
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Interesting. Denmark, Norway and Austria suspends the Astrazeneca vaccine, at least for now.



Germany, Italy, France, Nedherland, Ireland, Island, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuenia, Bulgaria, Luxemburg and Thailand suspends the administration of Astrazeneca vaccine for now.
 
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Germany, Italy, France, Nedherland, Ireland, Island, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuenia, Bulgaria, Luxemburg and Thailand suspends the administration of Astrazeneca vaccine for now.
but here in the UK BoJo claims it’s safe as houses (which has nothing to do with the big **** off container of it that just arrived from India)........

whisky will be waiting on the Johnson Johnson vaccine me thinks
 
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I did not plan to get the vaccine, but I think I may just to protect my Grand Kids, I would not want to be the one that got them sick. ❤
 
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I did not plan to get the vaccine, but I think I may just to protect my Grand Kids, I would not want to be the one that got them sick.
Kids don’t really get sick at all from covid. Mine had mild symptoms for like 12 hours.

Another alternative would be to continue focusing on your health and not volunteering to receive these pathogenic primers that have incredibly limited safety data
 

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