Donald Trump running for president
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BOSSMAN
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He is a "Gipper Gapper"
ax1
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Andrew Yang announced his run for Mayor in NYC today and promised to push for $2,000 universal basic income a year ($167 a month) for 500,000 (6% NYC population) lowest income people in the city. I think he probably already has 500,000 votes, lol.
That cost is $1 Billion dollars a year on top of all the other free shyt people get including public assistance grants (average $183 a month) and rent assistance (avarage $212 a month) making it a grand total of $562 of free shyt a month via stolen from others who work for it via armed thug stealing it.
And yes, NYC advocacy groups already are calling him out saying we need to push for more.
dixonk
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It’s times like these that I am glad that I am not a fast food guy. Looking forward to $10 Big Macs. Hopefully it will get these fat lard ass mobility scooter people a little slimmer.
thebigt
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what about the ones who work there?
ax1
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what about the ones who work there?
They can go home and collect their Groper Joe checks, the robots are coming.
ax1
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This also includes the end of tipped wages.
ax1
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Maybe not, maybe they will just say its included in the price because we all know the price is going to go up and they dont want to scare customers away.
I feel bad for some people, alot of people in the industry are going to lose money once the system is changed and I know there have been alot in NYC trying to fight it off.
Jiigzz
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Our minimum wage is $19 an hour and we live on an island, and our big macs are not $10.
ax1
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I live in New York and we have had some of the most aggressive minimum wage increases in the country and everything went up, especially fast food services. Back in the mid 90's a slice of pizza was $1.25, now its $2.50, I stopped buying McDonalds salads several years ago because not only did that go from $5 and change to over $7 and change, but they made them smaller too.
ax1
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Of course, that is needs to be accounted for.
They are replacing people with robots too, people simply have less jobs. They just eliminated every toll booth collector in New York State last month, everything is EZ-Pass, its far more cost efficient.
Jiigzz
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That is the major factor, not just accounted for.
Its funny how anti the general public are anout ensuring those on the minimum wage make enough to not die, yet dont bat an eye to the CEOs who increase their million dollar pay packet every year by millions.
Maybe instead of getting mad at the poor, we should get mad at the people keeping them there
ax1
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The CEO's can make as much money as they want, we live in a competitive market and the best talent is going for the best offer, and if they make honest money more power to them.
The poor are every bit responsible for the mess they are in....besides unmotivated and irresponsible people, ever the ones who just cant seem to make it they are all the ones who keep voting in big corrupt government shytholes that take their liberties away and pin them down. They vote in the very people who ran a coup on the education system and designed it so people are just smart enough to run the machines and shut up. They vote in the very people that mass murder people around the world and steal money from us to pay them. They vote in the very corporatist banker elite that rig the system and oppress them.
If there are any poor people who voted for Groper Joe or even Dump and want to push for minimum wage, fuq them all. This is their fault. I condemn Communism in the United States.
ax1
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The only reason Groper Joe wants to raise minimum wage is because he wants to grab poor people by the balls and chain them up to the United States of Slavelandia. Groper Joe and the rest of the shytholes that work in Washington dont give a flying crap about poor people, they just want to grow their slave population.
Jiigzz
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Asking for more than minimum wage isn't communism. Jesus.
Every argument you make just circles back to the same old crap.
You try appear educated, but are clearly not at all well versed in economics. I'm not either, but I don't pretend to be.
You know nothing about the poverty cycle, so stop pretending you do. Period.
ax1
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Sure you can ask for whatever you want, asking to mandate it and then actual turning it to public policy enforced with armed agents is a sin.
I never claimed to be educated, I just think for myself and thats that.
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ax1
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Communism, socialism, its all theft and run by low life criminal mass murdering crooks. Same crap.
Jiigzz
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The govt has to mandate anti trust laws to stop companies forcing out competition by having too much power.
You're way of thinking would simply make powerful companies more powerful and put mom and pop stores out of business.
The free market dont get a damn if it screws over others or it's workers.
ax1
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We dont have a government.
ax1
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I stand for having a government and a powerful Constitutional Republic, we dont have one. I do not recognize politicians who violate their office and steal elections, I only endorse their imprisonment.
Minimum wage laws are just a distractions to keep the iron neck rings on the population by low life corrupt power hungry scum.
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thebigt
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whoa...lets be logical here. by increasing minimum wage it actually hurts poor people since they will get disqualified from government assistance like food stamps and housing/medicaid and so on....so we have poor people getting bumped from government assistance programs and the rest of us getting hurt by higher prices---
@Jiigzz who is the winner from higher minimum wage?
ax1
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More revenue is generated in return back to the government when they get penalized for making more too.
Success is a crime, unless you shut up and comply to your slavemasters.
ax1
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As much as I hate Dump, I dont like all the bullshyt, what happened on the 6th is a clear and absolute false flag attack on our Constitutional Liberties and to crush political opposition.
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Flashback: Leftist Violence at Trump Inauguration in 2017
Antifa rioters busted out windows, attacked police and set fires on January 20, 2017.
Democrats have conveniently forgotten that their own far left supporters violently rioted in Washington DC during President Donald Trump’s inauguration in 2017.
Footage captured the chaos that day, when leftists led by Antifa Black Bloc rioters busted out storefront windows, attacked police and set fires to businesses, leading to hundreds of arrests.
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Flashback: Leftist Violence at Trump Inauguration in 2017
Antifa rioters busted out windows, attacked police and set fires on January 20, 2017.
Democrats have conveniently forgotten that their own far left supporters violently rioted in Washington DC during President Donald Trump’s inauguration in 2017.
Footage captured the chaos that day, when leftists led by Antifa Black Bloc rioters busted out storefront windows, attacked police and set fires to businesses, leading to hundreds of arrests.
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Ricky10
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Such an unstable and reckless threat to our nation and democracy. He must be silenced and removed from office immediately before he releases nuclear weapons!
Jiigzz
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Whut.
If people are paid enough to live, the logic is that they would rely less on govt assistance.
How does that not make sense?
Jiigzz
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Amazon made millions in revenue and paid no tax until like last year or whatever.
They made 280 billion in 2019, and paid like 1% tax on that AND still has employees on the bread line. That's what happens when a company is more loyal to investors than its staff
The real 'slaves' (your words), are the people working 12 hour shifts for minimum wage for a multi billion dollar company AND still standing in line for govt handouts because they can barely afford food and rent.
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Jiigzz
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They protecting the Capitol from treasonous rioters, in case you forgot what happened there only a few days ago?
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puccah8808
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Jiigzz
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You missed the point.I made more when I had no college degree...
The point is that some companies will demand everything from you and give you nothing in return.
Obviously a person can just not take the job, but this is far more common than people realise, and companies can absolutely demand whatever they like of left to their own devices. If all companies demanded the same thing, then the only option is to take the job.
The reason there are hiring laws to not discriminate based sex, age, ethnicity or religion is because companies used to do this all the time, and they still do but are more clever about it.
At the end of the day, what matters is maximizing returns for shareholders.
ax1
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I support 0% income tax for all so I dont hold Amazon against them.
Amazon actually has alot of good paying jobs and created 10s of thousands of high paying jobs across the country.
Independents such as myself can get off the 12 hour shifts and use Amazon's 3rd party platform to start our own business which Im very appreciative of. If it wasnt for Amazon Id still be working 12 hour shifts for some azzhole who didnt give a crap about me. There are thousands and thousands of businesses that have survived by expanding their storefronts or personal skills onto Amazon's platform. Amazon's minimum wage right now is $15.
I agree there is corporatism and corruption but the very people complaining are the ones who keep voting the people in that created the system (Groper Joe.) So what for me to say now??? Its not my fault, its their fault the system is so corrupt.
People only enslave themselves, instead of playing video games go to a freaking library and pick up a book and learn a new skill. Go to school, or a trade school.
ax1
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Protecting treasonous slimy politicians from treasonous rioters, how does that work?
ax1
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Maybe its not that they arent paid enough to live but rather its unaffordable to live.
My best advice is to find another job or take out a loan and start your own business. Perhaps find some new skills to add to your resume. Make it happen. Stop voting for low life crud that steal your money and oppress you from making it and take bribes from the corporations.
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puccah8808
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No, I got your point. I was just stating my experience. I work in employment law and see all this.
ax1
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I made more when I had no college degree...
The best paying jobs I ever had didnt even have a minimum or hourly wage. You just work and the harder you work the more money you make. Hourly wage thwarts productivity and incentives to do better. I never understood why people believe in such as stupid system. Ive had so many jobs in my youth where Id work 2-4 times harder than another guy and all you get is a 10 cent raise and a pat on the back.
I say death to hourly pay as a whole.
puccah8808
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ax1
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Were you a boss babe?! Beach body? Herbalife? Lularoe?I kid.
LOL, the best paying job I had I was hired at $0/hr, it was a non-union cable company. I used to put fiber optic cables up norther NY and out by Cape Cod MA I had no idea what the crap was for, lol. They would pay us by the foot and each piece of installation, unlike Union workers, we worked non-stop, fast and with minimal breaks and we would make way more than Union shyt jobs.
Another job that paid very well was refurbishing pallets, we just got $0/hr flat rate and paid per pallet fixed. If you worked hard enough you can do a typical 8 hour shift in 4 hours. All you have to do is work twice the speed to meet your quota. In an hourly job this would have been impossible.
I did do door to door Kirby Vacuum cleaners, wasnt a success for me but it was a very valuable experience. I actually went to a couple of homes where Amway people were just got me in the door just to recruit me into their pyramid schemes, lol
ax1
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NZ has a $19/hr minumum wage and NZ sucks when it comes to fixing the issues with poverty, and its going up to $21/hr this year, and it still wont get nothing done.
27% of children are living in poverty. 1 in 5 children die every week from violence...in a strict gun country!
And you all still oppressing minorities. I know you acknowledge it but damn, you think having $19 minimum wage would fix things like magic???
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One can define poverty in New Zealand as living in a household that makes 60% less than the average, taking housing costs into consideration. In New Zealand, massive economic restructuring beginning in the 1980s has resulted in prosperity for some, and poverty for others. In 1984, the national poverty rate was 9%. Comparatively, in 2016, the poverty rate was 15%. This represents a decrease from the peak poverty rate of 22% in 2004 but still remains significantly higher than before the mid-1980s, as a direct result of economic change including hard hits during the 2008 recession. Today, about one in seven households experience poverty, with Invalid Link Removed reporting that they do not have access to food or healthy food due to a lack of money according to The National Children’s Nutrition Survey. This means that Invalid Link Removed (or 27%) were living in poverty in 2017.
When people do not have access to financial and emotional resources, their health is more likely to suffer. New Zealand shows this as children experiencing poverty are more than twice as likely to visit the hospital than those who are not. They are also far more likely to experience health consequences like heart disease, obesity and addiction. These problems often follow children into adulthood, perpetuating the cycle of poverty.
Who is Most Affected?
There is an inequitable distribution of poverty in New Zealand, with Pacific Peoples and other indigenous groups like Invalid Link Removed experiencing higher levels of poverty than other people. A shocking 40% of Pacific Peoples have an income below the poverty line, with Māori coming in second with nearly one-third of their population experiencing poverty. Additionally, children are harder-hit than other groups. New Zealand has one of the highest rates of child abuse in the developed world.
According to UNICEF, a child dies every five weeks due to violence. Experiencing or seeing violence as a child can lead to negative long-term effects like drug-use, early pregnancy, anxiety and mental disorders and can compound the effects of poverty into adulthood. It is important to reduce childhood poverty rates because statistics have shown that where poverty rates drop, birthrates decrease as well.
Families that are living in poverty need to spend their time and energy on survival, and by necessity spend less time on things like education, emotional health and community. This creates a cycle of more people living in poverty, making the problem bigger over time. If more people come out of poverty now, fewer people will continue to live in poverty in the future. Preventing the inequitable effects of poverty on certain populations is vital in increasing the standard of living for many people and children across New Zealand, especially native populations.
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puccah8808
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Oh yea, when I used to work in a warehouse it was all about... omg, pallets are so expensive! You can make so much money off of them.
Also, I fucking hate unions. They need to fucking go. You had 20 year lazy ass veterans bitching and moaning because they didn’t get the easy job of the day. They’ll pretend to be your friend then file a grievance behind your back.
My coworker tries to sell me crap all the time. From life insurance to diet pills. Her reasoning... “It’s like I have this pot of gold and I just want to share it with everyone!”
manifesto
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So, we are keeping the poor people down now too huh.....could it be alot of them are lazy, drug addiction, alcoholics, etc...everything is always someone else's fault....
BOSSMAN
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ALWAYS!!!
manifesto
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What job is this for, and which state????
tyga tyga
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[QUOTE="ax1, post: 6456822 I say death to hourly pay as a whole.[/QUOTE]
Individuals who are salaried don’t always get a fair shake either.
Hourly- they get paid for their time and are given overtime pay if exceeded
Salaried- get paid the same regardless of the time.
Now, generally there is a significant pay difference but companies tend to steal from the salaried employees more often because they’re not required to clock in.
Individuals who are salaried don’t always get a fair shake either.
Hourly- they get paid for their time and are given overtime pay if exceeded
Salaried- get paid the same regardless of the time.
Now, generally there is a significant pay difference but companies tend to steal from the salaried employees more often because they’re not required to clock in.