Donald Trump running for president

[mavup]

Overall the economic impact and its effects cant be necessarily measured as they arent that acute. Generally people focus and what they can see in front of them and not that far ahead of them. Anyways I hope the globe recovers as fast as possible but just wanted to point that out.

Interestingly, my King of NY is acknowledging publicly that the shutdowns have contributed to an adaptation of behavior. Since people arent meeting up at the bar, club, event, etc....everyone is gathering together at home and now the #1 contributor of the spread is small gatherings at home. So now we (not me, lol) have to question was it all worth it? Do public shutdowns really reduce the spread, or even contribute to its growth? We know at least in the immediate they work, but people's behaviors change and being social creatures we know whats going to happen. And in a private setting people are less likely to wear a mask and be confined to a smaller space.

Thanks for pointing that out as I wouldn’t intentionally try to underscore the effects of lockdowns on the economy and what that entails in the future. Sometimes these threads move so d*amn quickly that I try to get out my biggest points with sources if I’m not on mobile, but certainly forget to address some adjacent topics. The part you quoted is more directly what I think the data suggest about excess mortality breakdown this year, and that definitely doesn’t consider future ramifications. Certainly, lockdowns don’t strike the balance of maximizing benefit and minimizing harm

 

[thebigt]

Even if they let you choose and you opt out, you still dont have a choice to pay for others who opt in.

always have a choice-just not always good choice!!!!

i could always tell my accountant not to take any taxes out, lol....not a very good choice indeed!!!!

 

[ax1]

Thanks for pointing that out as I wouldn’t intentionally try to underscore the effects of lockdowns on the economy and what that entails in the future. Sometimes these threads move so d*amn quickly that I try to get out my biggest points with sources if I’m not on mobile, but certainly forget to address some adjacent topics. The part you quoted is more directly what I think the data suggest about excess mortality breakdown this year, and that definitely doesn’t consider future ramifications. Certainly, lockdowns don’t strike the balance of maximizing benefit and minimizing harm

There isnt much talk on thereputics anymore. Its all, vax vax vax. If you followed this thread for a while, you will know I am not a Prez Dump supporter. What he did get right was when in public, Dump said therapeutics are quickly advancing. Is it me, or is he the only one ever bringing that discussion up to the public? And what if we had put more resources into therapeutics over the vax? Perhaps with all that energy we could have had a in home thereputic when you get early on symptoms, or something like. This way people who are effective heavily always have something on hand to rely on to keep them away from a ER.

 

[thebigt]

Thanks for pointing that out as I wouldn’t intentionally try to underscore the effects of lockdowns on the economy and what that entails in the future. Sometimes these threads move so d*amn quickly that I try to get out my biggest points with sources if I’m not on mobile, but certainly forget to address some adjacent topics. The part you quoted is more directly what I think the data suggest about excess mortality breakdown this year, and that definitely doesn’t consider future ramifications. Certainly, lockdowns don’t strike the balance of maximizing benefit and minimizing harm

biden and democrats have a agenda-to make Americans dependent on government----i look for biden and his democrat cohorts to shut the country down in january....for the 'good of the people'.

 

[thebigt]

There isnt much talk on thereputics anymore. Its all, vax vax vax. If you followed this thread for a while, you will know I am not a Prez Dump supporter. What he did get right was when in public, Dump said therapeutics are quickly advancing. Is it me, or is he the only one ever bringing that discussion up to the public? And what if we had put more resources into therapeutics over the vax? Perhaps with all that energy we could have had a in home thereputic when you get early on symptoms, or something like. This way people who are effective heavily always have something on hand to rely on to keep them away from a ER.

valid points!!!

 

[thebigt]

2 things i am happy about with the new coronavirus bill...1.no funding for state and local governments. 2.no liability shield for businesses against coronavirus related lawsuits.


those cities and states that allowed riots and looting to destroy their economies need to buck up and suffer consequences of their stupidity, i don't think think tax payers should be responsible for their dumbness.


i am pro-business, but those that tell employees either come to work when sick or be fired need to suffer the consequences-this is much needed protection for employees, imo.

 

[puccah8808]

2 things i am happy about with the new coronavirus bill...1.no funding for state and local governments. 2.no liability shield for businesses against coronavirus related lawsuits.


those cities and states that allowed riots and looting to destroy their economies need to buck up and suffer consequences of their stupidity, i don't think think tax payers should be responsible for their dumbness.


i am pro-business, but those that tell employees either come to work when sick or be fired need to suffer the consequences-this is much needed protection for employees, imo.

My friend just started a job for a Catholic hospital, and he just recovered from Covid. Although he was working remotely, they gave him the two weeks off and told him that they prayed for him every morning at their team meeting.

Also, he said it was the worst fucking feeling he’s ever had and didn’t think he would make it.

 

[thebigt]

My friend just started a job for a Catholic hospital, and he just recovered from Covid. Although he was working remotely, they gave him the two weeks off and told him that they prayed for him every morning at their team meeting.

Also, he said it was the worst fucking feeling he’s ever had and didn’t think he would make it.

1st am glad he is better...2nd am glad he works for employer who cares about their employees-everyone is not so fortunate!!!

 

[GreenMachineX]

My friend just started a job for a Catholic hospital, and he just recovered from Covid. Although he was working remotely, they gave him the two weeks off and told him that they prayed for him every morning at their team meeting.

Also, he said it was the worst fucking feeling he’s ever had and didn’t think he would make it.

This is so interesting. My mother in law was diagnosed Saturday with covid because she felt horrible. Now, 2 days later, she feels fine basically. She's 63, and a few health issues that would make her high risk (mildly obese, high cholesterol, low thyroid, hypertension).

 

[Jiigzz]

This is so interesting. My mother in law was diagnosed Saturday with covid because she felt horrible. Now, 2 days later, she feels fine basically. She's 63, and a few health issues that would make her high risk (mildly obese, high cholesterol, low thyroid, hypertension).

Different strains or viral loads can make a huge difference.

Crazy how variable things like this can be

 

[sammpedd88]

biden and democrats have a agenda-to make Americans dependent on government----i look for biden and his democrat cohorts to shut the country down in january....for the 'good of the people'.

I see that coming too. That will absolutely crush our country on so many levels.

 

[tyga tyga]

bullshyt....you always have a choice--may not be a nice choice but choice all the same...force is when your choices are limited to bad and worse!!!!

how about those restaurants choosing to stay open and being fined $1,000 a day and now they are out of business---they had a choice-eh? close and go out of business or stay open and be fined out of business---some choice, right?

Well, you can’t use a single city as your end all. Do you mind linking me the article about the business being fined until the closed? Did they not file for PPP? We filed and got the loan. And we’re a small... small business (Five employees in total)

 

[tyga tyga]

Different strains or viral loads can make a huge difference.

Crazy how variable things like this can be

The viral load tends to get over looked.

 

[tyga tyga]

My friend just started a job for a Catholic hospital, and he just recovered from Covid. Although he was working remotely, they gave him the two weeks off and told him that they prayed for him every morning at their team meeting.

Also, he said it was the worst fucking feeling he’s ever had and didn’t think he would make it.

By law they have to give 80hrs off if diagnosed with COVID. So, good thing they followed the law lol

 

[ax1]

Well, you can’t use a single city as your end all. Do you mind linking me the article about the business being fined until the closed? Did they not file for PPP? We filed and got the loan. And we’re a small... small business (Five employees in total)

I think some 200,000 businesses shut down, with many more over the winter. Fine or not thats horrible.

 

[HIT4ME]

No I am saying that of the people that got it 99.7% of them survived.

OK, then you misplaced a decimal point and you think 100M people in the US have been infected. Still almost 1/3 the population, but much more believable if not true.

I say maybe 10% of reported deaths are from COVID. Most reported deaths are people that died WITH COVID.

Ok, so you think 30,000 people died of Covid - which requires a 99.97% death rate again to reach 100M infected people so far maybe you didn't misplace a decimal.

Or maybe you did misplace a decimal and you think only 10M people have had this disease so far and 99.7% survive?

I don’t believe 300k people died FROM the rona. I am guessing most died WITH the rona. Most died from poor life choices. The rona was just natures way of letting them know they **** the bed.

So nobody ever dies of alcohol intoxication? They die WITH alcohol intoxication? Because you know, they died of liver disease, electrolyte imbalances, heart attacks, etc. They made poor life choices.

Likewise, I guess we can find Purdue "not guilty" since no one ever died from opioids. They died WITH opioids.

I am a Trump supporter and if this is even remotely true I don't know why he didn't beat this drum at all. I mean, he took a huge hit for so many deaths, I guarantee, and reducing it to 30,000 would have been a big win for him and I am disappointed he wasn't on this.

But I think it just is wishful thinking. You can look at the excess deaths and determine that these weren't deaths that normally occur within a typical year and arrive at numbers that support the 300,000 from there.

There are 3 things I am absolute certain of when it comes to humans:
1. There are those who know how to count
2. There are those who cant

So.....That 99.97 number we used for for younger age groups, so partially my fault for being vague. I havent looked deeper into this though on how they came up with the numbers. Of course we all know its the seniors and most unfit that have the highest rates.

Fair enough, the younger population may have 1/10th the death rate, but even that 99.97% rate seems low. If you want to apply it to one small group I can understand - but overall it is much more than that.

And yeah, seniors have higher rates of death from Covid. And this also holds true for heart disease, flu deaths, and any number of diseases. So now no one dies from the flu; they die WITH the flu because they were going to die anyway. In which case, we just increased the relative death rate of Covid if we start using that logic.

The big issue in NY were the nursing home deaths and how King Cumho sent Covid-1984 positive patients and forced them into nursing homes. He blames he was only following Federal Guidelines, but I didnt see him following Federal Guidlines when it comes to gun control, not then, not now,, soooo

I agree with the handling issues. I'm for lockdowns, but it should be up to the individual to do what they have to do within their rights. In other words, self-imposed self-preservation. I think Trump did a MUCH better job balancing than he gets credit for. It is difficult to balance freedoms vs. Safety. Normally you can only pick one.

exactly my point...now that they know they can get away with shutdowns it will be easy for them to eventually order mandatory vaccines...after that who knows? but once they have this kind of power you can bet they will abuse it!!!

what happened to resist?

f'ing sheep

All for this questioning and vigilance. I would resist mandatory vaccines and house arrest type lockdowns, etc. At the same time, I wish individuals would take more responsibility for themselves, which is probably wishful thinking on my behalf but I still hope.

bullshyt....you always have a choice--may not be a nice choice but choice all the same...force is when your choices are limited to bad and worse!!!!

how about those restaurants choosing to stay open and being fined $1,000 a day and now they are out of business---they had a choice-eh? close and go out of business or stay open and be fined out of business---some choice, right?

I don't see that as use of force. Force is physically dominating someone - which is no choice. If I can dominate you, and I come and restrain you against your will, you have no choice. Just like prisoners do not choose to go to jail. They are restrained by force, against their will.

 

[tyga tyga]

I think some 200,000 businesses shut down, with many more over the winter. Fine or not thats horrible.

Oh, absolutely. It’s terrible.

 

[sammpedd88]

Well, you can’t use a single city as your end all. Do you mind linking me the article about the business being fined until the closed? Did they not file for PPP? We filed and got the loan. And we’re a small... small business (Five employees in total)

There’s several article of cities in CA and Michigan fining restaurants for being open. Did read them all to see which ones have shut down but there’s a ton of articles about different cities fining.

 

[ax1]

2 things i am happy about with the new coronavirus bill...1.no funding for state and local governments. 2.no liability shield for businesses against coronavirus related lawsuits.


those cities and states that allowed riots and looting to destroy their economies need to buck up and suffer consequences of their stupidity, i don't think think tax payers should be responsible for their dumbness.


i am pro-business, but those that tell employees either come to work when sick or be fired need to suffer the consequences-this is much needed protection for employees, imo.

Oh great, Im a taxpayer and Cumho is going to raise my taxes even though I opposed riots.

We are 15 billion broke, and even if he significantly raised our taxes it wouldnt take us in the hole he created by that much. Cumho publicly already is banking on Groper Joe to bail New York out.

 

[ax1]

There’s several article of cities in CA and Michigan fining restaurants for being open. Did read them all to see which ones have shut down but there’s a ton of articles about different cities fining.

Being handed a fine isnt a direct result of going out of business anyways, people are shutting their doors to avoid fines and punishment in the first place, so regardless fine or not, its because of the fines and government thugs with guns (that wasnt a shot at you! lol.)

 

[tyga tyga]

There’s several article of cities in CA and Michigan fining restaurants for being open. Did read them all to see which ones have shut down but there’s a ton of articles about different cities fining.

Bet it’s hard for you to enforce the mandate (since it’s binding to the public, like a statute) - because you don’t agree with it, right? Or am I off base?

 

[ax1]

It is difficult to balance freedoms vs. Safety. Normally you can only pick one.

Your free to fuq government irresponsible recommendations and wear a proper N95 mask instead of a stupid blue face cover. Then your free to wear it and handle it properly, and more than likely it will be impossible for you to get Covid-1984.

Freedom does not necessarily compromise safety.

 

[ax1]

Bet it’s hard for you to enforce the mandate (since it’s binding to the public, like a statute) - because you don’t agree with it, right? Or am I off base?

The government has powerful guns. The people of USA , well they have some but not as much or as many people as should.

Thats the truth, amiright? Im not saying go out gun slinging, Im not, lol but thats the truth. The government are bullies and they use powerful guns, so no there really isnt much of a choice especially since we are not a unified country and most people on both sides (yes that include Republicrats!) dont understand whats in our Constitution, its purpose and how it can benefit them and their country.

 

[tyga tyga]

The government has guns. The people of California , well they have some left but not as much or as many people.

Thats the truth, amiright? Im not saying go out gun slinging, Im not, lol but thats the truth. The government are bullies and they use powerful guns, so no there really isnt much of a choice especially since we are not a unified country and most people on both sides (yes that include Republicrats!) dont understand whats in our Constitution, its purpose and how it can benefit them and their country.

I was saying because he’s a Peace officer. I may be completely off base and he does agree with the mandates that are in place in his county. But, if he’s not- I bet it’s hard as a Peace officer whose job is to uphold law to enforce it.

 

[dixonk]

OK, then you misplaced a decimal point and you think 100M people in the US have been infected. Still almost 1/3 the population, but much more believable if not true.



Ok, so you think 30,000 people died of Covid - which requires a 99.97% death rate again to reach 100M infected people so far maybe you didn't misplace a decimal.

Or maybe you did misplace a decimal and you think only 10M people have had this disease so far and 99.7% survive?



So nobody ever dies of alcohol intoxication? They die WITH alcohol intoxication? Because you know, they died of liver disease, electrolyte imbalances, heart attacks, etc. They made poor life choices.

Likewise, I guess we can find Purdue "not guilty" since no one ever died from opioids. They died WITH opioids.

I am a Trump supporter and if this is even remotely true I don't know why he didn't beat this drum at all. I mean, he took a huge hit for so many deaths, I guarantee, and reducing it to 30,000 would have been a big win for him and I am disappointed he wasn't on this.

But I think it just is wishful thinking. You can look at the excess deaths and determine that these weren't deaths that normally occur within a typical year and arrive at numbers that support the 300,000 from there.



Fair enough, the younger population may have 1/10th the death rate, but even that 99.97% rate seems low. If you want to apply it to one small group I can understand - but overall it is much more than that.

And yeah, seniors have higher rates of death from Covid. And this also holds true for heart disease, flu deaths, and any number of diseases. So now no one dies from the flu; they die WITH the flu because they were going to die anyway. In which case, we just increased the relative death rate of Covid if we start using that logic.



I agree with the handling issues. I'm for lockdowns, but it should be up to the individual to do what they have to do within their rights. In other words, self-imposed self-preservation. I think Trump did a MUCH better job balancing than he gets credit for. It is difficult to balance freedoms vs. Safety. Normally you can only pick one.



All for this questioning and vigilance. I would resist mandatory vaccines and house arrest type lockdowns, etc. At the same time, I wish individuals would take more responsibility for themselves, which is probably wishful thinking on my behalf but I still hope.



I don't see that as use of force. Force is physically dominating someone - which is no choice. If I can dominate you, and I come and restrain you against your will, you have no choice. Just like prisoners do not choose to go to jail. They are restrained by force, against their will.

Who will ever really know? I remain skeptical. I’m not going to get analytical about it, I’m not a numbers guy. We were lied to from the start, lied to up until this point, and will be lied to long after this crisis of the day goes away. I do not believe nor will I ever believe all these people died from this scam of a virus. This corona crap was a scam, an abuse of power, and a clown show of idiotic illogical rules, mandates, and assessments. Everyone in power failed and everyone looking up to those in power expecting them to have the answer failed themselves. Let’s just face the facts...we were setup and now the dictators around the world have tasted their powers and have tested how far they can push us without any pushback. As a matter of fact a huge portion of the population is thanking them for being tyrants and asking them to be even more tyrannical.

Covid is a fucking joke.

 

[ax1]

I was saying because he’s a Peace officer. I may be completely off base and he does agree with the mandates that are in place in his county. But, if he’s not- I bet it’s hard as a Peace officer whose job is to uphold law to enforce it.

Its gotta be hard, I feel many police are cornered and they have to deal with putting food on their table and their retirement benefits, etc......

Personally, I love police and the way I stand up for them is by putting all the blame on the government, not them.

I want our police to be in a better position to succeed, but still dont blame them for doing their job.

The easiest choice to put our police in a better position to succeed is by being arrogant about protecting and preserving our Constitution and Bill of Rights, and then the police can focus on real crime instead of punishing people for opening a resturaunt or hair salon and being the government's financial militia for growing revenue.

 

[dixonk]

Oh and since this thread is about Donald Trump let me extend my middle finger to him. If anyone is paying attention the ATF and DOJ currently under his watch is working on some more anti 2A rules. Pistol braces are in the crosshairs and the fucking clown is doing nothing about it. Gun control is bad unless republicans are the ones doing it I guess???? Fucking losers.

 

[tyga tyga]

I saw that. He’s on his way out, so he doesn’t care lol

 

[ax1]

Oh and since this thread is about Donald Trump let me extend my middle finger to him. If anyone is paying attention the ATF and DOJ currently under his watch is working on some more anti 2A rules. Pistol braces are in the crosshairs and the fucking clown is doing nothing about it. Gun control is bad unless republicans are the ones doing it I guess???? Fucking losers.

Looks like Groper Joe is violating the law and pulling strings and getting a head start on gun control. He has this new official office in case you havent heard, "The office of the President unElected"

In case some of you guys/gals/gender-neutrals/things/whateveryourcasemaybe arent away check out the official gun control link below.

Groper Joe wants to computer chip out Dixonk's shyt!

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[dixonk]

I saw that. He’s on his way out, so he doesn’t care lol

He said himself he was voted in to be the president for 4 years not 3.5 years. It’s his show until Jan 20. But if he wants to go down in history as a gun grabber I am happy to give him credit for that. Just like I gave all the other gun grabbing Republicans credit for it. **** Nixon, Reagan, Bush (both of them), and now Trump. Bunch of lying anti American gun grabbing losers. But they will continue running around scaring gun people to vote Republican to protect the 2A. The NRA will continue throwing support behind the gun grabbers. Lol what a joke.

I honestly don’t know if I will ever vote for another Republican ever again. And no, I will never ever vote for a democrat.

 

[tyga tyga]

The fingerprint smart gun has failed NUMEROUS times (moisture on finger tip, length of time the finger is held on scanner). I don’t want a delay, if I pull my tool.. I need it to go bang the minute I squeeze.

Also, “buy back” literally LOL. Good luck tracking down all the fire arms with a database that doesn’t exist entirely. He can kick rocks.

 

[dixonk]

The fingerprint smart gun has failed NUMEROUS times (moisture on finger tip, length of time the finger is held on scanner). I don’t want a delay, if I pull my tool.. I need it to go bang the minute I squeeze.

Also, “buy back” literally LOL. Good luck tracking down all the fire arms with a database that doesn’t exist entirely. He can kick rocks.

There is a huge portion of the population that is showing restraint for no other reason than the fear of being a felon or going to prison. My question: when Biden makes us all felons and we having nothing else to lose, how will that play out?

 

[Ricky10]

Those phone alerts already freak me out. What more are we going to have to do?! Ugh....

No phone alerts here yet...haha! I think I got one though when the WHO deemed the China virus a pandemic last spring. Good thing they were right on top of things!

My friend just started a job for a Catholic hospital, and he just recovered from Covid. Although he was working remotely, they gave him the two weeks off and told him that they prayed for him every morning at their team meeting.

Also, he said it was the worst fucking feeling he’s ever had and didn’t think he would make it.

Geez, is there anyone you know who hasn’t had the China plague? I still don’t know anyone in my personal life that has been diagnosed with it. Maine doesn’t have the population density of California though so transmission is slower.

 

[Ricky10]

There is a huge portion of the population that is showing restraint for no other reason than the fear of being a felon or going to prison. My question: when Biden makes us all felons and we having nothing else to lose, how will that play out?

Surely you remember the Biden/Harris “victory“ celebrations. It’s just the beginning of people getting exactly what they voted for. That’s all...

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[dixonk]

I can’t be the only one that looks at a picture like that and the first thought in my mind is not one single person has any skin in the game. I wish we could go back to the days of only landowners being able to vote.

 

[puccah8808]

Surely you remember the Biden/Harris “victory“ celebrations. It’s just the beginning of people getting exactly what they voted for. That’s all...

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We can all begin to heal now....

 

[puccah8808]

No phone alerts here yet...haha! I think I got one though when the WHO deemed the China virus a pandemic last spring. Good thing they were right on top of things!

Geez, is there anyone you know who hasn’t had the China plague? I still don’t know anyone in my personal life that has been diagnosed with it. Maine doesn’t have the population density of California though so transmission is slower.

Crazy enough and knock on wood, I’ve been going to work since the pandemic and I feel a lot more healthy than my friends and siblings who’ve been home quarantining.

My sister literally stopped going out but her husband comes in contact with people every day at work. Eventually, we knew she was going to catch it from him.

My friend’s wife is a nurse and caught it that way. My brother and his wife are just idiots who ate out too much. And I think my young lib sister caught it at one of her BLM marches.

 

[Ricky10]

I can’t be the only one that looks at a picture like that and the first thought in my mind is not one single person has any skin in the game. I wish we could go back to the days of only landowners being able to vote.

You made me go back and actually look at them....how dare you?

Yeah, looking at them is rather distressing in more ways than one

We can all begin to heal now....

I just can’t wait!!

 

[GreenMachineX]

I can’t be the only one that looks at a picture like that and the first thought in my mind is not one single person has any skin in the game. I wish we could go back to the days of only landowners being able to vote.

Amen!

 

[Ricky10]

I wish we could go back to the days of only landowners being able to vote.

How about we start with not allowing people that are buried beneath the land the right to vote. Then, maybe we can consider weeding out machine glitches and human error. Your expectations are WAY too high!

 

[Ricky10]

So I have 2 minor hives on my right arm tonight (vaccine was left arm) that have been there for maybe 6-8 hrs. My skin in general feels a little itchy..

Could be alcohol leaching out of my skin, or I possibly picked up a MRSA skin infection at work today. Who knows?

Anyway, I took a smidge of Benadryl and hopefully it‘s resolved in the morning!

 

[thebigt]

someone comes at you with a gun, you have no choices-right?

wrong, you 'almost' always have a choice....some situations are out of our control, but 99% of the time we have choices---granted they may not be good ones.

 

[thebigt]

Well no, not “force” because incentivizing would allow you to make a choice- Whether it’s worth getting if they attach something to it (money, more than likely.)

“Force”- by definition, you have no choice.

you 'almost' always have a choice...

 

[THOR 70]

Well no, not “force” because incentivizing would allow you to make a choice- Whether it’s worth getting if they attach something to it (money, more than likely.)

“Force”- by definition, you have no choice.

Yeah make everyone starve by shutting down the economy then offer the “choice” of getting the jab for some money to keep
feeding your family. What a “choice”

Do you even hear yourself? You know you didn’t say anything productive in the real world with your explanation right? I’m literally baffled you took the time to write this.

 

[ax1]

The fingerprint smart gun has failed NUMEROUS times (moisture on finger tip, length of time the finger is held on scanner). I don’t want a delay, if I pull my tool.. I need it to go bang the minute I squeeze.

Also, “buy back” literally LOL. Good luck tracking down all the fire arms with a database that doesn’t exist entirely. He can kick rocks.

They dont need it for you to have it work under emergency situations, if a deer walks by there are always more deer, LOL

 

[thebigt]

is it racist to sing i'm dreaming of a white christmas?

ask me if i give a flying 'F'

 

[jswain34]

Yeah make everyone starve by shutting down the economy then offer the “choice” of getting the jab for some money to keep
feeding your family. What a “choice”

Do you even hear yourself? You know you didn’t say anything productive in the real world with your explanation right? I’m literally baffled you took the time to write this.

Its still, unequivocally, a choice. You either get the vaccine that your employer requires to work in their workplace, or you go find a different job that doesn’t require one.

Just because you have a harder time making the choice doesnt mean it isnt one.

 

[THOR 70]

is it racist to sing i'm dreaming of a white christmas?

ask me if i give a flying 'F'

Yes Christmas is 100% racist

 

[Ricky10]

is it racist to sing i'm dreaming of a white christmas?

Don’t give them any ideas. That will be next on the chopping block?

What happened to “Baby it’s cold outside” was utterly ridiculous...

 

[ax1]

Its still, unequivocally, a choice. You either get the vaccine that your employer requires to work in their workplace, or you go find a different job that doesn’t require one.

Just because you have a harder time making the choice doesnt mean it isnt one.

But in NY they already introduced legislation to make it against the law to have a choice if the quota doesnt reach via voluntary means.

IF PUBLIC HEALTH OFFICIALS DETERMINE THAT RESIDENTS OF THE
STATE ARE NOT DEVELOPING SUFFICIENT IMMUNITY FROM COVID-19, THE DEPART-
MENT SHALL MANDATE VACCINATION FOR ALL INDIVIDUALS OR GROUPS OF INDIVID-
UALS WHO, AS SHOWN BY CLINICAL DATA, ARE PROVEN TO BE SAFE TO RECEIVE
SUCH VACCINE.

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