GreenMachineX
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Now I know this just serious...pulling out Ghostbusters!
Donald Trump running for president
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HIT4ME
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Now I know this just serious...pulling out Ghostbusters!
One of my favorite lines of all time in any movie.
When that movie came out I was 4 or 5 years old and as a kid it was just an exciting ghost/action movie. Then I was in college and hadn't seen it in forever and my friends were watching it and I remember it hitting me...holy sh*t this is a comedy! I felt so dumb.
ax1
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As of today Froogle is going all out cracking down on and new election fraud claims without "enough context" on their Fooltube platform.
Google-owned YouTube announced that it would begin enforcing against this content on Wednesday, citing Tuesday's safe harbor deadline for the US election, which is the date after which state election results Invalid Link Removed. YouTube said that enough states have certified their election results to determine a President-elect. National news outlets have universally projected that Joe Biden will be the next President.
It will begin enforcing the policy starting Wednesday, and said it would "ramp up" efforts in the weeks to come. It will still allow videos including news coverage and commentary to remain on the platform if they have enough context. Any videos in violation of the policy that were posted prior to Wednesday, will remain up even though they now break YouTube's rules. They will feature an information panel that says election results have been certified.
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Google-owned YouTube announced that it would begin enforcing against this content on Wednesday, citing Tuesday's safe harbor deadline for the US election, which is the date after which state election results Invalid Link Removed. YouTube said that enough states have certified their election results to determine a President-elect. National news outlets have universally projected that Joe Biden will be the next President.
It will begin enforcing the policy starting Wednesday, and said it would "ramp up" efforts in the weeks to come. It will still allow videos including news coverage and commentary to remain on the platform if they have enough context. Any videos in violation of the policy that were posted prior to Wednesday, will remain up even though they now break YouTube's rules. They will feature an information panel that says election results have been certified.
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THOR 70
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Subjectively grey on purpose I suppose
kisaj
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Probably because nothing has come from any of the allegations other than far right Trump loyalist threatening people and claiming they will die to change the outcome. Pretty scary, even more than the lunatics intimidating people and blocking roads with banners before the election.
dixonk
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I remember clearly when ghostbusters came out. I recorded that theme song on a cassette tape over and over and on both sides and would play it non stop. If there’s something strange in your neighborhood...who you gonna call? Lol
dixonk
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I suppose that must be good reason enough to suppress speech they don’t agree with.
HIT4ME
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Well, it's for their journalistic integrity. Oh, wait, they have benefited by claiming they aren't journalists...I got nothing.
dixonk
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I guess I don’t understand how they feel justified in suppressing it. Yelling voter fraud is not threatening harm on anyone, it is not hate speech, it is a theory. Whether they agree or not it’s a theory. Why suppress it?
HIT4ME
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I kind of go in the other direction here. I agree - but it isn't like the Republicans are the first to claim fraud here. Hillary and other democrats made these claims heavily in 2016. The Republicans ignored it because they won. Now, the democrats won so they are ignoring it. Basically fraud is totally fine, as long as someone gets the outcome they want.
The real issue is there are NO adults in the room to say, "Ok, let's look at this and try to be objective because this is a serious issue if it exists - even if it did not swing this race."
HIT4ME
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Voter fraud is not an organization. It's an idea.
Is that what we are saying? Because, hey, that sounds very familiar to something that was said to make burning towns acceptable.
HIT4ME
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I can agree with that...but there are no adults. I don't condone unnecessary violence. But we need the adults to keep that violence unneccessary and prevent it from escalating.
sammpedd88
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Not that I agree with threats and violence that you’re referring to, but that’s exactly what the BLM protests/riots have done this year and people that don’t agree have reached their breaking point. The media has played the side of the liberals for so long and citizens with common sense are just sick and tired of it.
thebigt
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i don't get it...i think the vast majority realizes that police are necessary...in large cities with large population of black folk why aren't the leaders encouraging young blacks to join the police to cause change instead of protesting to disband the police---this is just beyond my understanding.
ax1
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Your expecting a Groper Joe supporters to lead the youth to change?????????????????????
thebigt
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i just think that even those who say they are for defunding the police have to know that this isn't the answer---i can't believe they are truly that stupid, but i've been wrong before????
encouraging young blacks to join the police and attempt to be part of the solution seems so much more rational to me???
ax1
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They are just truly that stupid, I think your pretty much on point with what your deepest subconscious is trying to tell you.
sammpedd88
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Agreed. I think the younger generation is dumb as hell. Have any of you read up on the BREATHE Act? The details haven’t been released but what has been released is defunding police, release of all nonviolent offenders, abolish life sentences, close ICE detention centers, close all federal prisons, abolish the DEA, free education, increase welfare and Medicaid.
What I get out of this is, don’t lock me up because I possess and/or sale drugs. Do away with the DEA so they won’t arrest me or stop my supply coming into the country. Pay for me to live in free housing and give me free healthcare so I can use/sell drugs. Am I the only one they sees it that way??
ax1
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I havent heard of it, but I just looked into it and it sounds worse than all the big government tyranny Ive been speaking against all these years, lol!
You know I dont support the war on drugs, but these people are communist lunatics with no real solutions and responsible fiscal policy.
ax1
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They are going to need a whole lot of IRS to steal everything with guns to pay for this "free housing and healthcare," so perhaps the DEA will find job openings...1 out of every 3 job will be either a IRS army or government bureaucrat and these "live free" people are going to look back at today and say those are the good ol days.
ax1
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Its a strategic part of the political brainwashing. Reminds me of the Chinese Cultural Revolution when they oppressed all counter thoughts to impose a particular dominant ideology, and no better way to raise the youth with most simple basic language, them=dumb, we=smart and completely abolishing open dialogue because "them" dont belong on the same playing field.
thebigt
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that is insanity!!!!
sammpedd88
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sammpedd88
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Extremely! It’s being supported by Representatives Rashida Tlaib and Ayanna Pressley. So that explains the extreme insanity!
thebigt
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i can't understand how those 2 are in congress???? probably supported by ocasio and omar too i suspect...
kisaj
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I personally try not to believe that people actually think getting rid of police or reducing funding is any real answer, if anything, more education and training is in order- which costs money. However, we seem to be in such a "all or nothing" mentality because people are frustrated, that they are preaching things that make no sense.
ax1
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Whats not the answer is more racism, BLM at its core is a racist movement. It fuels division, not unity. We should aim better education for all, not stealing from a skin pigment all because of something absolutely none of us are responsible for 160 years ago.
puccah8808
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Food for thought in COVID-19 and the vaccine
Food for thought in COVID-19 and the vaccine
jswain34
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I fast fwd a bit and heard him talking about “serious adverse effects” of 21%.
I have heard of adverse effects being about 20-30% after 1st dose & 70-80% after second, but those are 1-2 days worth of fevers, muscle aches, headache, fatigue, injection site irritation (eg. Redness, itching).
Id hardly call any of those “serious” if we know whats causing them and know theyll self resolve within a day or two. Take some Tylenol or Ibuprofen for a day (or dont - youll live either way) and itll pass.
I’d love to know what he defines “serious” as, or if he’s just full of shît and fear mongering based on either pseudoscience or disingenuous misinterpretation of the data.
Theres a lot about that guy that screams “quack”, but i wont claim he is one without looking into it more and i dont have the time or desire to do that rn.
I see what this virus can do to you every day. Its not just a cold, its not just the flu, it does effect more than just old, frail, and ill people.
To transition into the topic of effectiveness, here’s a graphical representation of effectiveness data from the pfizer trial. 14 days after the first shot you start seeing efficacy vs placebo. That immunity only gets stronger after the booster a few weeks later.
Like ax1 likes to say, theres likely a higher risk of you having a serious adverse effect from getting into your car and driving to work today than there is from either of the two main vaccines in question.
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HIT4ME
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I do agree with this. I have some concerns with what I see as a new, untested platform being rushed to the market. Of course, this platform was actually designed to have this benefit - speed to market - so it makes some sense. But it still lacks long-term effect studies. As we often debate on this board, lack of evidence is NOT evidence of safety.
But on the same hand, people focus on "death" from Covid so much they ignore all of the long standing effects that could be avoided if this vaccine works - and that is a big part of the equation too. A lot of people never consider that part of the reason you want to get your kid vaccinated for chicken pox is that you don't want them to end up having shingles later in life and all the potential side effects from that, which can be crippling in some cases. I think a lot of the risk/reward math has to take into account the fact that covid does appear to produce long-term health consequences on its own.
To be honest, I'm surprised we could get this far with a vaccine for a novel virus in just 1 year and I think that as much as Biden wants to claim Trump has no plan for distribution - we shouldn't even be talking distribution at this point and when does Trump get some credit for that?
Realistically, I don't expect Trump to get much credit for the vaccine or the distribution - good or bad. The private sector has really shown it's worth and people who will likely never have their names in lights have delivered in a huge way - I'd rather see them get the credit. But Trump did push the FDA, even before Covid, to speed things up and make things like this happen. Would they have done it anyway? Probably. But it isn't like Trump did nothing or worse, stood in the way with his complacency.
And this second half of this is not geared at all toward jswain - just venting.
ax1
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I think my logic will work to the same degree here although nobody ever really forces people to drive or catch the virus against their will, and Im worried about mandates or reverse mandates as in you cant do certain things if you dont get it. Basically I think Im going to be stuck getting it myself since I would like to travel out of the country again next year.
I looked up the price, $20-$25 a shotx2=$40-$50 a cycle. They say at least King Cumho of NY says 660 million total doses needed, thats 13.2-16.5 Billion dollars and thats probably the smaller portion of the costs compared to the distribution of it. Groper Joe claims its going to be "Free" but thats another LMFAOx5 moment on my end.
And whats really alarming to me is something that I dont understand is being talked about anymore. Many months ago King Cumho kept regurgitating that the east coast strain comes from Europe and the west coast strain came from China....
He was using that as a political weapon against Dump claiming everything Dump did was a load of dump but anyways that doesnt change the fact that there are claims of 2 strains many months ago and if 2 strains developed that fast how many more mutations are there and how is a vaccine supposed to work where something like a flu vaccine is based off guessing on strains and as far as I know has a 50% efficacy rate.
I dunno none of this makes sense to me and the only thing still on top of my mind are the artificial fiscal effects of government over-reach and extended possibly permanent unconstitutional outreach of these thugs.
THOR 70
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ax1
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The CCP virus was already different earlier this year, they dont even talk about that anymore. Who is to even say it wont be different a few months ago and if multiple strains are going on right now then WTF????
HIT4ME
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This was my thought as well. We aren't targeting the specific virus, but the protein the virus uses. I am wondering, but don't know, if this means that the vaccine may make us less susceptible to other corona viruses as well.
ax1
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It still doesn’t equate to a long term solution right? I’m just comparing to the flu vacc which they only was a short term solution but a partial one as well.
jswain34
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If it yields long term immunity (which we admittedly dont know if it does...but it absolutely does yield short to moderate term immunity), why wouldnt it equate to a long term solution? MMR has provided a long term solution to measles, mumps, & rubella. TDaP has provided a long term solution to tetanus, Diptheria, & Pertussis.
sammpedd88
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I’m not an anti-vaxer so I don’t want anyone to get that impression. But I remember when kids were given that active polio oral vaccine for decades. When my son was an infant, his mom didn’t want him to get it due to reports of children getting polio from it. Of course the Dr said it’s safe and made her feel stupid for not giving it to our son. Fast forward less than a year from then, the FDA ordered all administration of the oral vaccine due to the risk of polio and went back to the inactive injection that my ex asked for in the first place.
There wasn’t enough testing for this new COVID 19 vaccine and I sure as hell won’t take it.