Tell SNS What You Would Like to See From Us (2020 Edition)

[sns8778]

should all be the same if you test it. I’d definitely try unbranded

We usually go the branded ingredient version if there is a reason to - like if its a certain type or standardization. Many times branded ingredient versions have studies to back them up; but then sometimes they're just fancy names put on something and marked up exponentially. In this case, I haven't looked into this ingredient yet enough to know which is why I wanted to ask anyone that may have. I appreciate the info and knowledge.

 

[Irishobrien]

We usually go the branded ingredient version if there is a reason to - like if its a certain type or standardization. Many times branded ingredient versions have studies to back them up; but then sometimes they're just fancy names put on something and marked up exponentially. In this case, I haven't looked into this ingredient yet enough to know which is why I wanted to ask anyone that may have. I appreciate the info and knowledge.

The D stereoisomer is elevated at rest and is the same (quantity) for obese and non-obese people. The L stereoisomer is released from muscle and has direct effect on browning for WAT. Lean people have significantly higher levels of L-BAIBA in comparison to the obese. It also has other beneficial effects on bone. A 50/50 mixture would be 50% less effective

 

[sns8778]

I've been seeing companies over in the U.K. adding EnXtra to their PW formulas but unfortunately
here in the states only Inspired and another small co. have added the 300mg dosage to their pre's.
I haven't tried anything YET with this ingredient but from reading feedback so far on DVST8 Union
it looks like EnXtra is the ingredient that is supercharging the energy and stimulant ingredients in
this PW and the ones over in the U.K. so I've been searching all over the web looking for just the solo
ingredient EnXtra just to add to pre's that I have on hand but I haven't found any yet. This might be
something SNS might want to look into as a stand alone ingredient in 300mg caps to help give pre's
and other caffeine based supplements a boost without having to add more caffeine. Just and idea for
one of my favorite companies that do great stand alone products.

Thank you for the suggestion. I'll definitely look into it. One reason that some companies may be hesitant to release this as a single ingredient is because the company that distributes it doesn't allow the product name to be the ingredient name; so anyone looking for it by name still wouldn't find it by name. I hope that makes sense. But that can severely diminish sales of something on the single ingredient side. Basically, if we did an EnXtra single ingredient, we couldn't use EnXtra in the name anyway so I think that would hurt sales.

 

[BCseacow83]

Thank you for the suggestion. I'll definitely look into it. One reason that some companies may be hesitant to release this as a single ingredient is because the company that distributes it doesn't allow the product name to be the ingredient name; so anyone looking for it by name still wouldn't find it by name. I hope that makes sense. But that can severely diminish sales of something on the single ingredient side. Basically, if we did an EnXtra single ingredient, we couldn't use EnXtra in the name anyway so I think that would hurt sales.

Could you do the following on the label:

"Name of Product"
NOW WITH
EnXtra!!!!!!!!!!!!!


lol

 

[totalpackage]

Thank you for the suggestion. I'll definitely look into it. One reason that some companies may be hesitant to release this as a single ingredient is because the company that distributes it doesn't allow the product name to be the ingredient name; so anyone looking for it by name still wouldn't find it by name. I hope that makes sense. But that can severely diminish sales of something on the single ingredient side. Basically, if we did an EnXtra single ingredient, we couldn't use EnXtra in the name anyway so I think that would hurt sales.

That explains it so you could actually source it from the co. which is a specific extract of ginger
called Alpinia Galanga and so far it looks like 300mg is the effective dosage and call it INTENSITY!
On another note one of my favorite supps from SNS arrived yesterday from DPS and my joints and
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[sns8778]

Could you do the following on the label:

"Name of Product"
NOW WITH
EnXtra!!!!!!!!!!!!!


lol

I'll check. Believe it or not, some branded ingredient companies don't even want their ingredients on the front of the label. Most are appreciative, but some are weird about it.

 

[sns8778]

That explains it so you could actually source it from the co. which is a specific extract of ginger
called Alpinia Galanga and so far it looks like 300mg is the effective dosage and call it INTENSITY!
On another note one of my favorite supps from SNS arrived yesterday from DPS and my joints and
tendons will be content for A WHILE!

I'm going to look into it. I'm open to using it in things, just not sure how it would work out for a single ingredient.

The irony is they would definitely want their branded ingredient name used on the back, its just if we couldn't use it to name the product, then that may hurt sales. It works okay when enough people are looking for an ingredient, but for one that isn't well known like this, it may not sell well. Give me a week to collect some info on it and we'll see

And awesome on the Cissus. Thank you.

 

[The Solution]

Hows the ergogenic coming @sns8778

 

[GQdaLEGEND]

That explains it so you could actually source it from the co. which is a specific extract of ginger
called Alpinia Galanga and so far it looks like 300mg is the effective dosage and call it INTENSITY!
On another note one of my favorite supps from SNS arrived yesterday from DPS and my joints and
tendons will be content for A WHILE! Invalid Link Removed

oh wow nice .. i love the stuff myself .. ive tried other cissus products while sns was out of stock .. and wasnt the same as SNS quality.

 

[robshef]

That explains it so you could actually source it from the co. which is a specific extract of ginger
called Alpinia Galanga and so far it looks like 300mg is the effective dosage and call it INTENSITY!
On another note one of my favorite supps from SNS arrived yesterday from DPS and my joints and
tendons will be content for A WHILE! Invalid Link Removed

I've only recently became aware of Enxtra. I see various places sell the extract, root, plant, etc. Anybody know if those are effective or have experience trying those forms?

 

[N2ofusion]

I've only recently became aware of Enxtra. I see various places sell the extract, root, plant, etc. Anybody know if those are effective or have experience trying those forms?

Is enXtra any good? I’ve had some other galangal extracts and they made me relaxed rather than stimmed up.

 

[totalpackage]

Is enXtra any good? I’ve had some other galangal extracts and they made me relaxed rather than stimmed up.

It's NOT the Galangal Extract that you mentioned cause that one is used for health benefits and you can
find that all over. The one that works with caffeine and other stimulants is labeled EnXtra and it looks like
it's used in 150mg -300mg and it's a definitely a different extraction then common one seen on Amazon
and other stores. I even called the co. cause they have an office in NJ and asked if they could sell me some
but they said NO DICE only companies that are formulating can have access to their product but they
recommended contact Bulk Supplements and ask them to start carrying it and if enough people do that
then they might look into carrying it but they would need a lot of requests for it to consider it for their line
of bulk supplements.

 

[Irishobrien]

It's NOT the Galangal Extract that you mentioned cause that one is used for health benefits and you can
find that all over. The one that works with caffeine and other stimulants is labeled EnXtra and it looks like
it's used in 150mg -300mg and it's a definitely a different extraction then common one seen on Amazon
and other stores. I even called the co. cause they have an office in NJ and asked if they could sell me some
but they said NO DICE only companies that are formulating can have access to their product but they
recommended contact Bulk Supplements and ask them to start carrying it and if enough people do that
then they might look into carrying it but they would need a lot of requests for it to consider it for their line
of bulk supplements.

interesting. Thanks for the intel

 

[aaronuconn]

For probiotics, I'd love to see the following:

TWK10 as mentioned earlier
Lactobacillus plantarum PS128
Bifidobacterium longum OLP-01
Bifidobacterium breve B3

All have interesting potential for muscle, recovery and endurance

I know I’m quoting a comment from March, but looks like TWK10 won’t be available for any brand to sell.

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[sns8778]

It's NOT the Galangal Extract that you mentioned cause that one is used for health benefits and you can
find that all over. The one that works with caffeine and other stimulants is labeled EnXtra and it looks like
it's used in 150mg -300mg and it's a definitely a different extraction then common one seen on Amazon
and other stores. I even called the co. cause they have an office in NJ and asked if they could sell me some
but they said NO DICE only companies that are formulating can have access to their product but they
recommended contact Bulk Supplements and ask them to start carrying it and if enough people do that
then they might look into carrying it but they would need a lot of requests for it to consider it for their line
of bulk supplements.

They're only set up to sell in quantity kg MOQ's and for business to business sales only. That's the case with most raw material suppliers.

I'm surprised that they recommended you to contact Bulk Supplements; that seems more like a suggestion from the person you spoke with than a suggestion from them as a company bc many branded ingredient suppliers don't want their ingredients sold in bulk powder. And from Bulk Supplements end, the demand would definitely have to be high to make it worth them bringing in what the MOQ investment would be.

 

[sns8778]

Hows the ergogenic coming @sns8778

The formula is finished and flavor samples are pretty much done.
Covid really created a lot of OOS issues and backups for contract manufacturers. Right now, our priority is getting all flavored powders back in stock. As soon as we accomplish that, we will get this into production I hope.

 

[aaronuconn]

New Ginger extract. “26% gingerol content, of which half of that are stabilized in the 6-gingerol form.”

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[totalpackage]

New Ginger extract. “26% gingerol content, of which half of that are stabilized in the 6-gingerol form.”

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That's the ginger extract for gut health which we can find all over, it's the ginger extract in the
form of EnXtra that enhances stimulants is what we're looking for.

 

[sns8778]

I wanted to let everyone know that we will be releasing a slightly new formula of Thermagize XT in the next couple of weeks. It will still have the same kick to it, just a couple of ingredient changes.

For people that love the original formula, DPS has very few bottles left and the are only 29.59 ea. after the discount code listed on the product page. Invalid Link Removed

 

[sns8778]

I want to get everyone's opinions on something.

We already have the formula for the daily use ergogenic but I'm also considering doing muscle building capsule product and I'm curious what ingredients people would like to see in it. I'm not talking about an an anabolic, something more along the lines of things like ActiGin, maybe RipdFactor, S7, things like that.

 

[aaronuconn]

I want to get everyone's opinions on something.

We already have the formula for the daily use ergogenic but I'm also considering doing muscle building capsule product and I'm curious what ingredients people would like to see in it. I'm not talking about an an anabolic, something more along the lines of things like ActiGin, maybe RipdFactor, S7, things like that.

This is great news! I’ll try to think of suggestions that don’t require to much capsule space.

ActiGin - 50mg
AstraGin - 50mg
ElevATP - 300mg
PrimaVie - 500mg
Eurycoma - 300mg (2%+ Eurycomanone)
Fenugreek (as Furosap)- 500mg

I’ll keep thinking on it.

 

[poison]

I wish you guys had sopharma tribulus and testofen.

 

[mavup]

I want to get everyone's opinions on something.

We already have the formula for the daily use ergogenic but I'm also considering doing muscle building capsule product and I'm curious what ingredients people would like to see in it. I'm not talking about an an anabolic, something more along the lines of things like ActiGin, maybe RipdFactor, S7, things like that.

I’d be interested to see/try out Ripfactor in a muscle building capsule product

 

[GQdaLEGEND]

I wish you guys had sopharma tribulus and testofen.

its hit and miss with people .. .5/10 will like it and others will bash it

 

[BigGame84]

I want to get everyone's opinions on something.

We already have the formula for the daily use ergogenic but I'm also considering doing muscle building capsule product and I'm curious what ingredients people would like to see in it. I'm not talking about an an anabolic, something more along the lines of things like ActiGin, maybe RipdFactor, S7, things like that.

Apigenin at like 200/300mg per cap.

 

[sns8778]

Apigenin at like 200/300mg per cap.

My hesitancy with this is the feedback of it giving some people headaches at higher dosages. That would make it more likely that if we ever did do one that it would be a single ingredient rather than a formula. I wouldn't want to risk people not being able to use the formula bc of it.

 

[sns8778]

I wish you guys had sopharma tribulus and testofen.

Testofen - we've never had hardly anyone ask for that. We thought about it years ago. I personally have more interest in Furosap.

Sopharma Tribulus - I honestly think the days of anyone being willing to pay a high price for Tribulus are long gone. Most just prefer to dose regular Tribulus like our Tribulus-750 higher. The version by Sopharma was so expensive you can pretty much buy a natural anabolic like Anabolic Effect for the price of it.

I do appreciate the suggestions. Don't take me as being negative; just if someone suggests something that I know we are unlikely to do, I always try to explain why.

 

[sns8778]

This is great news! I’ll try to think of suggestions that don’t require to much capsule space.

ActiGin - 50mg
AstraGin - 50mg
ElevATP - 300mg
PrimaVie - 500mg
Eurycoma - 300mg (2%+ Eurycomanone)
Fenugreek (as Furosap)- 500mg

I’ll keep thinking on it.

Thank you for the suggestions. Not for this particular product I was asking about, but if you like that combination, I think you're going to be very very happy with a particular upcoming product. It won't have all of it, but a good bit of it

I hadn't even thought of ElevATP being in the one I'm thinking on. Thanks for the suggestion. I always forget about that ingredient for some reason.

 

[poison]

Testofen - we've never had hardly anyone ask for that. We thought about it years ago. I personally have more interest in Furosap.

Sopharma Tribulus - I honestly think the days of anyone being willing to pay a high price for Tribulus are long gone. Most just prefer to dose regular Tribulus like our Tribulus-750 higher. The version by Sopharma was so expensive you can pretty much buy a natural anabolic like Anabolic Effect for the price of it.

I do appreciate the suggestions. Don't take me as being negative; just if someone suggests something that I know we are unlikely to do, I always try to explain why.

Heh, I get not wanting to get too crazy with a throwback like Trib. Unfortunately, all trib is not the same, nor is it a matter of mere percentages. 'Dose higher' means nothing if it's not a quality herb to begin with.

I've never tried Furosap. Testofen has been really good when I tried it in the past.

 

[60Or50UBTJ]

Laxogenin is one that has always had such mixed feedback that we've stayed away from. If enough people want us to do one though, we would consider it.

Maral root is something I've read up on some but we haven't been asked for much. If enough people are interested, we may could do it in the combo you suggested, as a single ingredient, or in something else.

You could also try Ajuga Turkest in lieu of Maral Root. I am using both now stacked with Horny Goat and Tribulus. My arms and legs are bigger. Love sittin down and have pants feel like they’re ready to do a hulk breakout.

 

[Irishobrien]

I wish you guys had sopharma tribulus and testofen.

Testofen makes my balls swollen. Nothing else like it, IMO.

probably TMI

 

[GQdaLEGEND]

You could also try Ajuga Turkest in lieu of Maral Root. I am using both now stacked with Horny Goat and Tribulus. My arms and legs are bigger. Love sittin down and have pants feel like they’re ready to do a hulk breakout.

haha very true that is a great feeling lol

 

[sns8778]

Heh, I get not wanting to get too crazy with a throwback like Trib. Unfortunately, all trib is not the same, nor is it a matter of mere percentages. 'Dose higher' means nothing if it's not a quality herb to begin with.

I've never tried Furosap. Testofen has been really good when I tried it in the past.

Sorry, let me be more clear with what I meant. A lot of people don't take Tribulus for test boosting, a lot take it for Libido. While taking more of a different type like our Tribulus-750 wouldn't be comparable with the one you mentioned, what I meant is that people taking it for Libido can usually achieve the result they are looking for by doing so. I hope that makes sense.

 

[sns8778]

You could also try Ajuga Turkest in lieu of Maral Root. I am using both now stacked with Horny Goat and Tribulus. My arms and legs are bigger. Love sittin down and have pants feel like they’re ready to do a hulk breakout.

What type are you using? Pm me if you'd like.

The issue with Turkesterone is that there are so many low quality raw materials. I know where to get the real stuff from but the cost is so high that it makes it almost impossible to offer it at the dosage that was used in the studies.

 

[sns8778]

As far as Testofen, I've spoken with them before. I'd be glad to look into offering it as a single ingredient item if enough people are interested. We've just never been asked much for it and its price makes it prohibitive to use in a formula. That's why so many formulas with Testofen are prop blends bc the cost of Testofen is so high, there's not enough margin room left for companies to add other good ingredients in there if they are trying to hit a low price point.

 

[Irishobrien]

What’s the difference between “Myotor” and “Ripfactor”?

 

[aaronuconn]

What’s the difference between “Myotor” and “Ripfactor”?

Weird. Idk. Looks like both are from PLT Health, but MyoTor may be exclusive to GNC and their protein powder?

 

[aaronuconn]

Also is Purity the only brand using RipFactor as a solo ingredient? They’re charging close to $45-50 for a month supply. Maybe it’s a pricey raw, though.

 

[BigGame84]

Also is Purity the only brand using RipFactor as a solo ingredient? They’re charging close to $45-50 for a month supply. Maybe it’s a pricey raw, though.

No. Alpha Lion is as well. Both solo and with some other suff.

 

[The Solution]

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The upcoming supplement still has 15 key ingredients with a handful of changes to some of its dosages.
While SNS is not revealing everything you need to know about Lean Edge 2.0 this weekend, as mentioned, it is launching the fat burning product in less than a week, so all of that information is not far away.

@sns8778

 

[Afi140]

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The upcoming supplement still has 15 key ingredients with a handful of changes to some of its dosages.
While SNS is not revealing everything you need to know about Lean Edge 2.0 this weekend, as mentioned, it is launching the fat burning product in less than a week, so all of that information is not far away.

@sns8778

Original is great so it will be interesting to see the upgrades.

 

[sns8778]

Lean Edge upgrade release should be less than a week away

 

[aaronuconn]

Lean Edge upgrade release should be less than a week away

But what about formula release?

 

[djbombsquad]

No. Alpha Lion is as well. Both solo and with some other suff.

Under dosed. Clinical starts at much higher dose . Now the real question how does ripped factor compare to protein so 30 grams of Protein vs 30 grams of protein plus ripped factor ?

 

[aaronuconn]

Under dosed. Clinical starts at much higher dose . Now the real question how does ripped factor compare to protein so 30 grams of Protein vs 30 grams of protein plus ripped factor ?

It’s a good point. Because once muscle protein synthesis is stimulated to the max (~30-45g of protein/meal for an ~80kg person), does it even matter?

I know there is A LOT more at play when it comes to hypertrophy, and I won’t pretend to be an expert (see below for experts) on what amount/type of protein and at what time promotes the most optimal whole-body net positive protein balance, but I believe RipFactor’s key MoA is MPS stimulation.

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[mavup]

Under dosed. Clinical starts at much higher dose . Now the real question how does ripped factor compare to protein so 30 grams of Protein vs 30 grams of protein plus ripped factor ?

Out of curiosity, what is the clinical dose for rip factor?

 

[BigGame84]

Out of curiosity, what is the clinical dose for rip factor?

650mg maybe?

 

[BCseacow83]

Testofen - we've never had hardly anyone ask for that. We thought about it years ago. I personally have more interest in Furosap.

Sopharma Tribulus - I honestly think the days of anyone being willing to pay a high price for Tribulus are long gone. Most just prefer to dose regular Tribulus like our Tribulus-750 higher. The version by Sopharma was so expensive you can pretty much buy a natural anabolic like Anabolic Effect for the price of it.

I do appreciate the suggestions. Don't take me as being negative; just if someone suggests something that I know we are unlikely to do, I always try to explain why.

I would be happy with a trib stand. for protodiocin. I personally love Tribestan but the cost is high. As to the apigenin and headaches I have had ZERO issue at 400mg twice a day as part of Abolic4. I would love a solo high dosed.

 

[aaronuconn]

Another idea, and I mean this respectfully, but I think you guys could use some updated merchandise (shirts, shaker bottles, etc). I think my SNS shirt from when I was a rep about a decade ago is the same style you still sell

Now if it’s just not a big seller, then I get it, but just floating an idea

 

[djbombsquad]

650mg maybe?

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