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Jiigzz said:
That's what the lawsuit claims. Are you telling me that every lawsuit filed should be taken at face value or are you simply showing what the lawsuit alleges?
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I think your being a little naive here.

The Demicans pushed for mail in votes. Where are most of the mail in votes? Urbanized liberal areas. It sucks going to vote in big cities.

Then, who counts the votes? Volunteers. Who are the volunteers primarily in these liberal areas? Liberal volunteers. What have liberals been doing all year?

Then you see places blocking Republicrat observers from simply overseeing these important votes and windows get boarded up so the public cant see in the final seconds.

Its really obvious.
 
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dixonk said:
And don’t confuse me with the all lives matter camp. I stand firmly in the no lives matter camp.
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He pretends to be for BLM but then directly defends the guy who destroyed more lives of black people than the kkk in the entire 20th century.
 
ax1 said:
He pretends to be for BLM but then directly defends the guy who destroyed more lives of black people than the kkk in the entire 20th century.
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What bothers me the most about this election is that out of all of the brilliant people we have in this country, these are the ones we are choosing. Totally pathetic! One shows definite signs of dementia and the other is a loudmouth blowhard. While Trump's sentences are childish, at least they're mostly coherent. With Biden, well, you know, the thing. Even his own party was trying to put stuff in place to remove him and put Harris as the president. The guy is just a puppet.
 
ax1 said:
I think your being a little naive here.

The Demicans pushed for mail in votes. Where are most of the mail in votes? Urbanized liberal areas. It sucks going to vote in big cities.

Then, who counts the votes? Volunteers. Who are the volunteers primarily in these liberal areas? Volunteers. What have liberals been doing all year?

Then you see places blocking Republicrat observers from simply overseeing these important votes and windows get boarded up so the public cant see in the final seconds.

Its really obvious.
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Who are all the volunteers in Republican areas? Republicans. Should we recount all them as well?
 
Jiigzz said:
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Im not sure what source Fox is using here, but I dont mind being in the minority. After all most people voted for either a Demican or Republicrat and I gotta say that was extremely disappointing.
 
Jiigzz said:
Who are all the volunteers in Republican areas? Republicans. Should we recount all them as well?
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You have to look at this as a strategist and where you can most manipulate votes you can put your hands on, and thats by far high populated urbanized areas. Not even close.
 
Jiigzz said:
Who are all the volunteers in Republican areas? Republicans. Should we recount all them as well?
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We should do it all over and use only machines, December 3rd.

Actually, what difference does it make I dont support either, lol
 
lukehayd said:
What bothers me the most about this election is that out of all of the brilliant people we have in this country, these are the ones we are choosing. Totally pathetic! One shows definite signs of dementia and the other is a loudmouth blowhard. While Trump's sentences are childish, at least they're mostly coherent. With Biden, well, you know, the thing. Even his own party was trying to put stuff in place to remove him and put Harris as the president. The guy is just a puppet.
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They both totally suck, I didnt vote for either of them.

Demicans actually had some fresh interesting people in the primary with Yang and Tulsi Gabbard, not that I support them but they were fresh young smart blood at least.
 
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It’s a shame the election has come to this. The last thing people needed in 2020 was more scandal and drama. Trump saw it coming months ago but it was brushed aside and ignored. Now he has been forced into the position of looking like the bad guy again- simply for wanting a fair election.

Things are definitely getting heated in Pennsylvania :unsure:
 
kisaj said:
****, you guys are scary lunatics.
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Really....so the vast amounts of mail in ballots from deceased people doesn't alarm you? Perhaps, you sir, are the lunatic.
 
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manifesto said:
Really....so the vast amounts of mail in ballots from deceased people doesn't alarm you? Perhaps, you sir, are the lunatic.
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What if they mailed it in before they died? You know, in 1905.
 
manifesto said:
Really....so the vast amounts of mail in ballots from deceased people doesn't alarm you? Perhaps, you sir, are the lunatic.
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Some REALLY shady **** goin down in Pennsylvania, and more than likely elsewhere. I am definitely smelling fraudulent activity from the dems.

The fitting end to all this would be if it is ultimately proven, and the Biden-Harris ticket is disqualified.
 
Ricky10 said:
It’s a shame the election has come to this. The last thing people needed in 2020 was more scandal and drama. Trump saw it coming months ago but it was brushed aside and ignored. Now he has been forced into the position of looking like the bad guy again- simply for wanting a fair election.

Things are definitely getting heated in Pennsylvania :unsure:
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LOL.

It's funny how both sides see it. Heres the narrative from the other side:

Coronavirus hits, hundreds of thousands of people will soon be dead. Some people opt to do things as remotely as possible without placing themselves at risk of dying. Others dont care. Typically Democrats are of the camp that social distancing is needed, while Trumpers keep calling it a hoax. Naturally, even early on it was evident that Democrats would vote more by mail and less in person.

Trump refuses to give the post office more funding to ensure ballots arrive on time. He knows doing so would invalidate a large proportion of mail in votes. He also knows that the majority of mail in votes will be Democratic.

Mail in voting kicks off, and an unprecedented number of votes are taken this way.

Election day comes, a lot of the votes at the polling stations have come through showing Trump to be in the lead, or about to take the majority. He wants to call it now, knowing that mail in votes are still being tabulated. Remember, those votes were cast legally and are of your fellow countrymen who's votes deserve to be counted.

Trump knew this was going to happen, and did everything he could to persuade his fervent supporters that the election was fraudulent and rigged, and they have taken the bait hook, line and sinker.

TLDR: mail in votes are legal, a lot of them were for Biden, Trump knew this and is actively trying to take votes away from legitimate voters, Trump supporters mad.
 
Jiigzz said:
TLDR: mail in votes are legal, a lot of them were for Biden, Trump knew this and is actively trying to take votes away from legitimate voters, Trump supporters mad.
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Just because something is legal doesnt mean its not easily manipulated or smart for we the people to allow to happen.

I mean its legal to run your pc without anti-virus, but good luck with that.

And just so you know, this isnt just about Dump supporters being mad, this is also about regular voters who have no direct affiliation to either people who see the process rapidly disintegrating in front of our very eyes.
 
Jiigzz said:
Coronavirus hits, hundreds of thousands of people will soon be dead. Some people opt to do things as remotely as possible without placing themselves at risk of dying. Others dont care. Typically Democrats are of the camp that social distancing is needed, while Trumpers keep calling it a hoax. Naturally, even early on it was evident that Democrats would vote more by mail and less in person.
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So why are Demicans going apeshyt on having observers on site? They even work to overturn judge rulings. Its obvious they are hiding something.
 
These are some of the people counting the votes right now. Like they arent going to cheat?? LMFAO how people so blind????

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Here is more than likely a volunteer vote counter.

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Jiigzz said:
LOL.

It's funny how both sides see it. Heres the narrative from the other side:

Coronavirus hits, hundreds of thousands of people will soon be dead. Some people opt to do things as remotely as possible without placing themselves at risk of dying. Others dont care. Typically Democrats are of the camp that social distancing is needed, while Trumpers keep calling it a hoax. Naturally, even early on it was evident that Democrats would vote more by mail and less in person.

Trump refuses to give the post office more funding to ensure ballots arrive on time. He knows doing so would invalidate a large proportion of mail in votes. He also knows that the majority of mail in votes will be Democratic.

Mail in voting kicks off, and an unprecedented number of votes are taken this way.

Election day comes, a lot of the votes at the polling stations have come through showing Trump to be in the lead, or about to take the majority. He wants to call it now, knowing that mail in votes are still being tabulated. Remember, those votes were cast legally and are of your fellow countrymen who's votes deserve to be counted.

Trump knew this was going to happen, and did everything he could to persuade his fervent supporters that the election was fraudulent and rigged, and they have taken the bait hook, line and sinker.

TLDR: mail in votes are legal, a lot of them were for Biden, Trump knew this and is actively trying to take votes away from legitimate voters, Trump supporters mad.
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Yes, but he also knows that mail in votes can more readily be gateways to fraud. I think he genuinely didn’t like the idea of them because he didn’t want that to be a factor in anyone‘s mind. He also wanted people to be able to know the results the night of election- as it should be.

The fact that the republican poll observers can’t get within six feet in Pennsylvania, doesn’t allow them to see if the ballots are being correctly processed, or if they are legit ballots to begin with.

There will definitely be ongoing investigations. Personally, I don’t trust the democratic party on any level, and their hatred for Trump will make them resort to any means possible to remove him from office.
 
Jiigzz said:
100%. It is actually scaring reading these guys posts.
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I tried, I really did, to play the middle and not fall into the craziness of what his insane followers are doing and saying. Anyone honestly wanting this piece of **** and his corrupt, disgusting family and everyone that supports them is a degenerate. This country is so nasty because of him and it’s embarrassing to live here right now. He’s mentally sick and so is anyone trying to find ways to back him. Disclaimer: I’m not a doctor, just a normal human that sees what is happening.
 
Jiigzz said:
Coronavirus hits, hundreds of thousands of people will soon be dead. Some people opt to do things as remotely as possible without placing themselves at risk of dying. Others dont care. Typically Democrats are of the camp that social distancing is needed, while Trumpers keep calling it a hoax. Naturally, even early on it was evident that Democrats would vote more by mail and less in person.
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This could have been easily resolved with better early voting, and perhaps setting up machines in various locations where you can call in for appointment for high risk people to significantly make it safer for them. Of course Demicans want the most strategic strike to their advantage.

On another note, voting should be mandatory ID or no vote. Its an absolute easy no brainier that takes out alot of the baloney in the air.
 
kisaj said:
I tried, I really did, to play the middle and not fall into the craziness of what his insane followers are doing and saying. Anyone honestly wanting this piece of **** and his corrupt, disgusting family and everyone that supports them is a degenerate. This country is so nasty because of him and it’s embarrassing to live here right now. He’s mentally sick and so is anyone trying to find ways to back him. Disclaimer: I’m not a doctor, just a normal human that sees what is happening.
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Thats fair as long as your not even have the thought as Groper Joe as the other option as he is a war mongering terrorist who destroyed more lives of black and other minorities the past half century than the kkk did the past 100 years.
 
ax1 said:
Just because something is legal doesnt mean its not easily manipulated or smart for we the people to allow to happen.

I mean its legal to run your pc without anti-virus, but good luck with that.

And just so you know, this isnt just about Dump supporters being mad, this is also about regular voters who have no direct affiliation to either people who see the process rapidly disintegrating in front of our very eyes.
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It's legal, therefore a lot of people voted that way, therefore their votes deserve to be counted. Just sounds like you're arguing for a dictatorship if you're actually saying that peoples LEGAL mail in votes shouldnt count.
 
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So why are Demicans going apeshyt on having observers on site? They even work to overturn judge rulings. Its obvious they are hiding something.
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Ah yes, the snowflakes arent being let in so that means DEMOCRATS are cheating.

Yup, good logic
 
Jiigzz said:
It's legal, therefore a lot of people voted that way, therefore their votes deserve to be counted. Just sounds like you're arguing for a dictatorship if you're actually saying that peoples LEGAL mail in votes shouldnt count.
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Im arguing just because its legal doesnt mean its positive for the democratic process. This system makes the democratic process vulnerable to a dictatorship.

But hey, 50 years ago it was legal to tell a black person to get up and go to the back of a bus and you would be defending the person kicking that black person out of their seat, because after all its "legal."
 
Jiigzz said:
Ah yes, the snowflakes arent being let in so that means DEMOCRATS are cheating.

Yup, good logic
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You know what, demicans and republicrats are all nazi terrorists, Im just sick of all of them, lol
 
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These are some of the people counting the votes right now. Like they arent going to cheat?? LMFAO how people so blind????

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Some of these people are counting votes for Trump, and you think they are going to be fair?!?!

LMFAO how are people so blind????
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Ricky10 said:
Yes, but he also knows that mail in votes can more readily be gateways to fraud. I think he genuinely didn’t like the idea of them because he didn’t want that to be a factor in anyone‘s mind. He also wanted people to be able to know the results the night of election- as it should be.

The fact that the republican poll observers can’t get within six feet in Pennsylvania, doesn’t allow them to see if the ballots are being correctly processed, or if they are legit ballots to begin with.

There will definitely be ongoing investigations. Personally, I don’t trust the democratic party on any level, and their hatred for Trump will make them resort to any means possible to remove him from office.
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It is legal, therefore the votes count. Period.
 
kisaj said:
I tried, I really did, to play the middle and not fall into the craziness of what his insane followers are doing and saying. Anyone honestly wanting this piece of **** and his corrupt, disgusting family and everyone that supports them is a degenerate. This country is so nasty because of him and it’s embarrassing to live here right now. He’s mentally sick and so is anyone trying to find ways to back him. Disclaimer: I’m not a doctor, just a normal human that sees what is happening.
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Ironic how that’s exactly how Trump supporters feel about Biden-Harris and the rest of the democrat politicians that stood by and watched their cities turn into war zones from hell.
 
Jiigzz said:
Some of these people are counting votes for Trump, and you think they are going to be fair?!?!

LMFAO how are people so blind????View attachment 199193
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Look at that wall there on the right to the entrance of the voting place. Those nazi's are working in 3rd world villages with population of people in the hundreds tops. Libtards in the cities have wheelbarrels of ballots dumped on their laps, then 1 box for Groper and a paper shredder for the Dumps.
 
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ax1 said:
Look at that wall there on the left to the entrance of the voting place. Those nazi's are working in 3rd world villages with population of people in the hundreds tops. Libtards in the cities have wheelbarrels of ballots dumped on their laps, then 1 box for Groper and a paper shredder for the Dumps.
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You talk so much nonsense it's crazy lol
 
ax1 said:
And I am the opposition. Period.
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It literally matters zero percent what you think. It IS legal, so those votes count.
 
Jiigzz said:
It literally matters zero percent what you think. It IS legal, so those votes count.
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No you dont get it, the process of the vote is legal, but its those counting the votes that may or may not be classified as legal. On top of that you cant confirm if illegal activities were commited in the initial process such as double votes, illegal immigrants, non-registered voters, dead people, etc...
 
Ricky10 said:
Their legitimacy is what concerns me. Hopefully we will find out, and the questions will be answered to everyone’s satisfaction.
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Its legal to put an open suitcase full of money on the front seat of your car's passenger seat in a mall parking lot. Period.

Im so smart.
 
Jiigzz said:
You talk so much nonsense it's crazy lol
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In all seriousness I was never a fan of mail in voting since this started, it wasnt because of Dump, 100% honest on my part.

Im a supporter of blockchain technology being implemented in the voting process and simply voting off your phone, pc with a bitcoin style key. Strict ID requirements and of course booths to help those who cannot afford tech, perhaps set up at grocery stores. And none of this 1 day voting nonesense.

I think implementing retinal or face scans for the voting machines would be a somewhat a deterrent from people selling their keys. I think more can be done as this is something to address but I think overall most people will want to keep their keys.

Without a doubt, election reform needs to be done and modernized. There is no need for crazy packed election days any more or the need for a ton of vote counters.

Im already out of the fight with my candidate, but this process this year is genuinely concerning for me and thats past the "legal" part of it. It is the process today so be it, but alot of things dont appear right.
 
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No you dont get it, the process of the vote is legal, but its those counting the votes that may or may not be classified as legal. On top of that you cant confirm if illegal activities were commited in the initial process such as double votes, illegal immigrants, non-registered voters, dead people, etc...
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Let me make sure I understand this:

So your solution is to simply not count mail in votes, despite millions of people voting legally that way? Because that's what Trump is saying. Hes saying "I think some of these are fake, therefore I want none of them to count".

Is that democracy to you? Is it fair and honest and right to allow people to vote by mail, only to then say "lol that doesnt count"?

Because that's all I'm reading. You guys would rather Trump won than allowing your fellow Americans to have a vote in who their president is.
 
Jiigzz said:
Let me make sure I understand this:

So your solution is to simply not count mail in votes, despite millions of people voting legally that way? Because that's what Trump is saying. Hes saying "I think some of these are fake, therefore I want none of them to count".

Is that democracy to you? Is it fair and honest and right to allow people to vote by mail, only to then say "lol that doesnt count"?

Because that's all I'm reading. You guys would rather Trump won than allowing your fellow Americans to have a vote in who their president is.
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What I am saying is democracy is not secure with a mail in process and is not fair an honest. Its not the voters fault, its the politicians fault that allowed this to happen and their sheep supporters bowed down and obeyed their masters.

I would just scrap this entire election and re-open December 3 for an entire week and start all over again the traditional way. Yeah sure this is impossible but I stay strong by my stand and will not surrender my mind to what I clearly see is a failed process.

In the meantime we had a wonderful woman who was on the mandatory ballot on all 50 states and we owe the people of America a fair set of debates that doesnt just include the 2 complete total geezer cowards who took the stage all to themselves last month.
 
Jiigzz said:
So your solution is to simply not count mail in votes
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Let me clarify your question, I actually want them counted and verified with oversight and transparency, but its too late the system failed and the damage cannot be undone. Thats why we need to scrap this all together.
 
ax1 said:
Let me clarify your question, I actually want them counted and verified with oversight and transparency, but its too late the system failed and the damage cannot be undone. Thats why we need to scrap this all together.
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Oversight from who? Because they are overseen.

"The laws require representatives from the various parties and then the county election board to be present" during vote tallies, Stewart said.
 
Jiigzz said:
Oversight from who? Because they are overseen.

"The laws require representatives from the various parties and then the county election board to be present" during vote tallies, Stewart said.
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Thats why they boarded up windows and blocked observers from checking out the scene, and even when they got there they had to stay 6' away so they couldnt say anything at all and some places forced the observers to stay 25' away.

Its an absolute joke.

All these places should be closely monitored with surveillance camera's, its 2020. They spend billions spying and tracking all American's but refuse to protect the integrity of the vote.
 
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