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I wasn't speaking in terms of individuals but as a generation as a whole.
Still applicable man. I can have a ton of respect for a generation and disagree fundamentally with what they, as a whole, believe on any number of topics.

Hypothetically, I can, say, respect the hell out of people, a generation that fought for our independence in the 1700s, but also say they were sort of dicks for having slaves.
 
Still applicable man. I can have a ton of respect for a generation and disagree fundamentally with what they, as a whole, believe on any number of topics.

Hypothetically, I can, say, respect the hell out of people, a generation that fought for our independence in the 1700s, but also say they were sort of dicks for having slaves.
it is entirely possible future generations will consider us 'dicks' for being meat eaters?
 
it is entirely possible future generations will consider us 'dicks' for being meat eaters?
Not to nearly the same extent as owning slaves. I love me the founding fathers, but there’s a little irony in someone saying “all men are created equal” while you literally own other men.

Eating meat was also a biological necessity for a long time for humans. Being able to be totally vegan is a pretty modern invention, with the advent of modern supermarkets, food processing, farming, and supplements. Owning slaves was never an absolute necessity from a survival of the species perspective.
 
it is entirely possible future generations will consider us 'dicks' for being meat eaters?

No. They'll hate you for other reasons, there already is a generation that hates your meat consumption now.
That said, who's going to start taking their Hydrchlorquine since POTUS is taking it..?

Edit: I just ate a delicious sausage deep dish pizza with my wife, who also loves meat.
That didn't come out right... or did it?
 
Not to nearly the same extent as owning slaves. I love me the founding fathers, but there’s a life irony in someone saying “all men are created equal” while you literally own other men.

Eating meat was also a biological necessity for a long time for humans. Being able to be totally vegan is a pretty modern invention, with the advent of modern supermarkets, food processing, farming, and supplements. Owning slaves was never an absolute necessity from a survival of the species perspective.

Impossible burger changes everthing....I still like the nutrition profile of lean beef patty, but Impossible meat was impressive to me.
 
No. They'll hate you for other reasons, there already is a generation that hates your meat consumption now.
That said, who's going to start taking their Hydrchlorquine since POTUS is taking it..?

Edit: I just ate a delicious sausage deep dish pizza with my wife, who also loves meat.
That didn't come out right... or did it?
lol...if they are going to hate me anyways, I will continue to eat da meat and enjoy every bite.

but I agree, every generation is going to find reasons to hate the previous generation.
 
Impossible burger changes everthing....I still like the nutrition profile of lean beef patty, but Impossible meat was impressive to me.

I also love my vegan protein drink. It's got a nice profile, and is between casein and whey for digestion.
I'd love to try the impossible burger. I wonder if its' on Amazon.com lol...

We don't really eat a lot of meat TBH.
We're by no means veggie bound however.
 
I also love my vegan protein drink. It's got a nice profile, and is between casein and whey for digestion.
I'd love to try the impossible burger. I wonder if its' on Amazon.com lol...

We don't really eat a lot of meat TBH.
We're by no means veggie bound however.

You mean vegetarian protein drink, right? Or am I not understanding that right?

They dont sell that at your burger king?
 
You mean vegetarian protein drink, right? Or am I not understanding that right?

They dont sell that at your burger king?

Yes. Vegetarian protein drink.
We don't eat fast food. Entirely cook at home, except rare occasion when we feel the need to have food poisoning...
 
It *will* change everything when the price comes down. And what’s the amino acid profile look like?

I dont really remember the profile, I remember not being totally impressed but its something. Or maybe I wasnt impressed with the overall macro ratio? It was a while ago I looked into it. Im thinking the amino complete profile will improve over time as more competition looks to cater certain markets.
 
I dont really remember the profile, I remember not being totally impressed but its something. Or maybe I wasnt impressed with the overall macro ratio? It was a while ago I looked into it. Im thinking the amino complete profile will improve over time as more competition looks to cater certain markets.
True. Most people don’t know anything about leucine and EAAs haha.
 
Not to nearly the same extent as owning slaves. I love me the founding fathers, but there’s a little irony in someone saying “all men are created equal” while you literally own other men.

Eating meat was also a biological necessity for a long time for humans. Being able to be totally vegan is a pretty modern invention, with the advent of modern supermarkets, food processing, farming, and supplements. Owning slaves was never an absolute necessity from a survival of the species perspective.
I agree, no defnse for owning a slave...

being vegan is a choice, many won't willingly give up eating meat.
 
Yes. Vegetarian protein drink.
We don't eat fast food. Entirely cook at home, except rare occasion when we feel the need to have food poisoning...
we probably have more in common than either of us would care to admit, lol.
 
True. Most people don’t know anything about leucine and EAAs haha.

The Impossible Whopper has 10 grams of usable protein and the Whopper has 22 grams of usable protein. So you would have to eat two and a quarter impossible whoppers to get the same protein in one Whopper.

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I agree, no defnse for owning a slave...

being vegan is a choice, many won't willingly give up eating meat.
I’m on a limited diet due to medical conditions. No whole nuts, no raw veggies, etc. So meat is pretty much a necessity for me unless I wanted nothing but vegan shakes for protein.
 
I’m on a limited diet due to medical conditions. No whole nuts, no raw veggies, etc. So meat is pretty much a necessity for me unless I wanted nothing but vegan shakes for protein.
hence your monicker, crohn's is horrible but it seems you mostly have it controlled?

I eat meat because I like it.
 
Are people getting arrested for peeing in a pool? What did I miss?

Social consequences: the other kids may make fun of you, the lifeguard may scold you, if you make a habit of it, I imagine you'd be asked not to come back. Nobody wants to go to pool with the kid that always has the oddly warm water around them.
 
I just think it’s funny how a ton of people consider people who are 16-21 today to be “millennials,” even though it’s really for people born between 1981 and 1996, which means millennials are, today, ~24-39 years old.

Nah that's Gen. Z but Boomers do still treat us like we're 16. My wife and I were just discussing this today, actually.
 
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Nah that's Gen. Z but Boomers do still treat us like we're 16. My wife and I were just discussing this today, actually.
lol...I bet you are younger than my oldest daughter and probably the same age as my son. I treat them as the adults they are, just like I do you!!!
 
lol...I bet you are younger than my oldest daughter and probably the same age as my son. I treat them as the adults they are, just like I do you!!!

You're an exception.

I own a small business and when I talk about economics I litterally have Boomers tell me to get a part time job.
 
You're an exception.

I own a small business and when I talk about economics I litterally have Boomers tell me to get a part time job.
they are probably the ones credence clearwater sang about in fortunate son, ask them where they were during nam.

most of baby boomers with a college degree were fortunate sons, poor guys I grew up with had brothers who went went to nam. my friends and I were all going to nam before the war/draft ended.
 
they are probably the ones credence clearwater sang about in fortunate son, ask them where they were during nam.

most of baby boomers with a college degree were fortunate sons, poor guys I grew up with had brothers who went went to nam. my friends and I were all going to nam before the war/draft ended.

The individuals I have in mind did not fight in Vietnam, you are correct.
 
So first the bad news....I would post an article showing the other way around but that would be the same bad news!

Dump has a real shot of winning

Analysis by Harry Enten, CiaNN
Updated 8:30 AM ET, Wed May 20, 2020

(CiaNN) Former Vice President Groper Joe is ahead of President Dondumb Dump in the presidential race. He leads in the Invalid Link Removed and is up somewhere between Invalid Link Removed and 8 points nationally, depending on what methodology you use.

Yet it's important to point out that even if the polls are an accurate representation of the current state of the race, presidential races can shift a lot during the final six months of the campaign.

Groper Joe may be favored, but this race is far from over.

Take a look at every presidential election involving an incumbent since 1940. It's 13 races in total and gives us a good baseline from which to work.

There's been a 11-point difference between an average of May polls and the result in the average election. That would be more than enough to change the course of the 2020 race, if the shift occurred in Dump's direction.

Now some of these races (most notably 1964) had polling leaders with large margins that have never occurred in any modern presidential election and were bound to shrink during the course of the campaign. If we look at the only races where the polling leader had a 25-point advantage or less, the average difference between the polls at this point and the result has still been a fairly high 8 points.

If the 2020 race moved 8 points in Dump's direction, he'd win.

You could even concentrate on just the most recent incumbent elections of 2004 and 2012. Like 2020, opinions of the incumbents (Bushy Coke Sniffer in 2004 and Bareback Obobo in 2012) Invalid Link Removed. The final national results in those races differed from the May polls by 3 and 4 points.

If the 2020 race moved 3 to 4 points in Dump's direction, he might not win the popular vote, but he would have a pretty good shot of winning the electoral college.

Interestingly, there have been Invalid Link Removed since 1940 (Gerald Bored in 1976, Jimmy Farter in 1980 and George The Satan Bush in 1992). Two of them (Farter and Satan Bush) were actually ahead in the polls at this point. Farter was up by 6 points and lost by 10 points nationally. Satan Bush was up by 8 points over Bill Blowmi Dikton and 6 points over Ross The Parrot, and Dikton would defeat Satan Bush by 6 points and Ross The Parrot by 24 points. Meanwhile, Hairy Duumman and Bushy Coke Sniffer were trailing by small margins in the May 1948 and 2004 polls respectively, and both would go on to win by small margins.

Of course, just because something is possible doesn't mean it's likely.

Even if we saw a swing in the 2020 race, there's no guarantee it would go in Dump's favor. In the 13 races since 1940, seven times the incumbent did better than he was polling now. The other six times, the challenger did better. Just based on that data alone, it's really no better than a 50/50 proposition that Dump will do better in the results than he is polling currently.

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Dick Fixedon Yellow People Killer in 1972 and The Celebrity in 1984 ended up outperforming their May polling and came in closer to where their net approval (approval - disapproval) ratings suggested they'd be. Farter in 1980 and Bushy Coke Sniffer in 1992 trended toward their negative net approval ratings.

Dump's net approval rating is in the mid to high negative single digits, which is right in line with his polling against Groper Joe.
The bottom line is six months is a lifetime in politics, but you'd rather be in Groper Joe's position than Dump's.

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The GOP Governors in their respective states are lying about the numbers and people will die.
Their blood is on their hands along with Trump.

"Georgia governor forced to apologize for releasing fake numbers on Coronavirus infections"
Now do Florida.

So what about Colorado? Few days ago it came out number were actually inflated by almost 25% in the state. Polis isn’t GOP.
 
So what about Colorado? Few days ago it came out number were actually inflated by almost 25% in the state. Polis isn’t GOP.

What about Colorado?
I don't care if they inflated the deaths by 50%... how do they figure in all the states? Let's get some perspective here.
It's about two systems of reporting that were in conflict. Read some kind of source other than FOX ok?

What about Florida? (I find this disturbing)
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Do you have data on Retirement Home deaths in Colorado? Have they reported?
Florida is UNDER reporting... as are other states. (All GOP sic.)

That said, if someone is 95 years old and dies in a car accident...
What was the cause of death? Old age driving a car?
 
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What about Colorado?
I don't care if they inflated the deaths by 50%... how do they figure in all the states? Let's get some perspective here.
It's about two systems of reporting that were in conflict. Read some kind of source other than FOX ok?

What about Florida? (I find this disturbing)
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Do you have data on Retirement Home deaths in Colorado? Have they reported?
Florida is UNDER reporting... as are other states. (All GOP sic.)

That said, if someone is 95 years old and dies in a car accident...
What was the cause of death? Old age driving a car?

A: I don’t Fox News
B: “I don’t care if they inflated the deaths by 50%”

Lol. Nuff said.
 
We delayed our response for too long with ample warning just like the rest of the world. That 100,000 deaths should be far less than that. Somebody didn't respond adequately... We had the same notice as the rest of the world, if not more.

Bill Clinton (1993)
Appointed the 1st official on the National Security Council to focus solely on health threats

George W. Bush (2005)
"If we wait for a pandemic to appear, it will be too late to prepare."

Barack Obama (2014)
Warned to prepare for an upcoming pandemic, and built a team and a plan.

Donald J. Trump (2020)
Fired the team from Barack Obama, and ignored his pandemic plan.
"Nobody new a pandemic was coming."
 
We delayed our response for too long with ample warning just like the rest of the world. That 100,000 deaths should be far less than that. Somebody didn't respond adequately... We had the same notice as the rest of the world, if not more.

Bill Clinton (1993)
Appointed the 1st official on the National Security Council to focus solely on health threats

George W. Bush (2005)
"If we wait for a pandemic to appear, it will be too late to prepare."

Barack Obama (2014)
Warned to prepare for an upcoming pandemic, and built a team and a plan.

Donald J. Trump (2020)
Fired the team from Barack Obama, and ignored his pandemic plan.
"Nobody new a pandemic was coming."

Nice to see a group of Dump's 3 predecessors who are mass murdering psychopaths combined slaughtering far more babies and children than global CCP Virus deaths a whole give a crap about humans and pandemics.
 
Nice to see a group of Dump's 3 predecessors who are mass murdering psychopaths combined slaughtering far more babies and children than global CCP Virus deaths a whole give a crap about humans and pandemics.

Everyone's a mass murdering psychopath in your view, though, so, that's kind of a moot point.
 
Everyone's a mass murdering psychopath in your view, though, so, that's kind of a moot point.

But if you wanna defend terrorism and but continue to pretend to give a crap about people over some bug, go ahead and knock yourself out!!
 
Nice to see a group of Dump's 3 predecessors who are mass murdering psychopaths combined slaughtering far more babies and children than global CCP Virus deaths a whole give a crap about humans and pandemics.
They can be war-hawks and still have good plans for preparing for pandemics...

The Founding Fathers owned slaves, but the Constitution is still pretty legit.
 
They can be war-hawks and still have good plans for preparing for pandemics...

The Founding Fathers owned slaves, but the Constitution is still pretty legit.

Yeah that’s true, certainly better than being evil and irresponsible for everything. Even Hitler and the Nazi’s did good things for people.
 
But if you wanna defend terrorism and but continue to pretend to give a crap about people over some bug, go ahead and knock yourself out!!

As sad as it is, if you wanna discuss US politics, but you're going to demonize (albeit appropriately) anyone who has been within spitting distance of the military industrial complex, then you're not left with much to discuss.

Otherwise, you have to adopt an ever so slightly more nuanced approach to foreign policy.
 
As sad as it is, if you wanna discuss US politics, but you're going to demonize (albeit appropriately) anyone who has been within spitting distance of the military industrial complex, then you're not left with much to discuss.

Otherwise, you have to adopt an ever so slightly more nuanced approach to foreign policy.

Ok, so dont get involved with my political discussions then, then thats your choice. I dont support mass murdering terrorists /story and will oppose it till Im 6 feet under. Your free to skip to the next. Wont stop me from quoting you though but you can ignore me.
 
What good did the Nazi's do and Hitler?...
aside from perfecting the giant OVEN / GAS chamber and then burying the evidence?
 
What good did the Nazi's do and Hitler?...
aside from perfecting the giant OVEN / GAS chamber and then burying the evidence?

From the point of view that mass murdering terrorists wanting to prepare to protect US citizens from a pandemic...like Bushy and Obobo, the Nazi's did great things to raise their people out of poverty, the country was economically devastated and Hitler lifted the Germans out of that.

Whats the difference between a Oven and Gas chamber and dropping a bomb at a wedding in the middle east full of innocent women and children all because of a "suspected" terrorist was near by at the scene? Or bombing a hospital? Ever hear of "collateral murder" event in 2007?

They are all the same pile of mass murdering crap, but Hilter was sure the worst.
 
Ok, so dont get involved with my political discussions then, then thats your choice. I dont support mass murdering terrorists /story and will oppose it till Im 6 feet under. Your free to skip to the next. Wont stop me from quoting you though but you can ignore me.

If you want to dictate who does and doesn't get involved in your conversations don't post them on a public forum. 🤷‍♂️
 
If you want to dictate who does and doesn't get involved in your conversations don't post them on a public forum. 🤷‍♂️

You said there is nothing for me to discuss, I think there is alot to discuss. If there wasnt anything for me to discuss as you claim, how can I technically order you not to discuss politics with me? You first set the standard that there was nothing on my side to discuss. Its like if I was claiming you ran out of money, but you have wads of cash in your pocket and you tell me not to ask you for your money right now. It doesnt work that way, I already am claiming you dont have money.
 
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