I listen to a radio show at night--'ground zero'...if even a small percentage of what he says is true....!!!Anyone seen this plandemic documentary the hidden agenda on YouTube??? Check it out, very interesting
I listen to a radio show at night--'ground zero'...if even a small percentage of what he says is true....!!!Anyone seen this plandemic documentary the hidden agenda on YouTube??? Check it out, very interesting
Made by an antivaxxer and conspiracy theorist...im sure she doesnt have any agenda at all.Anyone seen this plandemic documentary the hidden agenda on YouTube??? Check it out, very interesting
Well, that certainly puts a new twist on things. It’s rather disturbing that Dr. Fauci was involved in giving a 3.7 million dollar grant to the Wuhan laboratory back in 2015.Anyone seen this plandemic documentary the hidden agenda on YouTube??? Check it out, very interesting
if they do come out with a vaccine they better be damned sure it is safe, or many people will never trust them again.Well, that certainly puts a new twist on things. It’s rather disturbing that Dr. Fauci was involved in giving a 3.7 million dollar grant to the Wuhan laboratory back in 2015.
This article (including some apparently official documents) is rather incriminating in regard to what happened in the Wuhan laboratory. The last document is apparently a resume of a Dr. Shi, that shows she was ”researching” coronavirus as recently as 12/24/2019. There is obviously no question it leaked from there, yet Dr. Fauci dismisses it.
BREAKING: Dr. Fauci and Obama Admin Gave Wuhan Lab $3.7 Million After Its Top Dr. Shi Zhengli Had US Project Shut Down and She Was Sent Back to China | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft | 2
Chinese Doctor Shi Zhengli was part of a team that working on a coronavirus project jointly with US doctors in 2014 in the United States before it was shut down by the DHS for being too risky. After the US research project was shut down, Dr.www.thegatewaypundit.com
When they do come out with a “vaccine,” I will likely feel more uneasy about receiving that than getting the virus itself. As a healthcare worker, I will definitely be required to receive one first. I don’t envision anyone else being given much of a choice in the matter either. That’s a rather scary thought in itself..
That is still far away from us though, so maybe some truths will emerge before that point that will change our approach.
In my eyes, you can’t test an entirely new vaccine for a few months and call it safe for the longterm. I’m not an anti-vaxxer, but there are some that have stood the test of time for safety, while others have been recalled/taken off the market.if they do come out with a vaccine they better be damned sure it is safe, or many people will never trust them again.
I agree with you in regards to the vaccine and potential safety issues from rushing its development and safety testing. I’m also more than likely going to be required to get it for my job once it comes out (edit: if it does)...so, I feel you on your reservations.In my eyes, you can’t test an entirely new vaccine for a few months and call it safe for the longterm. I’m not an anti-vaxxer, but there are some that have stood the test of time for safety, while others have been recalled/taken off the market.
At my last physical I politely refused a flu shot. My doctor treated me like I was insane and repeatedly tried to pressure me into it. I can't imagine the pressure that will come with the coronavirus vaccine.Well, that certainly puts a new twist on things. It’s rather disturbing that Dr. Fauci was involved in giving a 3.7 million dollar grant to the Wuhan laboratory back in 2015.
This article (including some apparently official documents) is rather incriminating in regard to what happened in the Wuhan laboratory. The last document is apparently a resume of a Dr. Shi, that shows she was ”researching” coronavirus as recently as 12/24/2019. There is obviously no question it leaked from there, yet Dr. Fauci dismisses it.
BREAKING: Dr. Fauci and Obama Admin Gave Wuhan Lab $3.7 Million After Its Top Dr. Shi Zhengli Had US Project Shut Down and She Was Sent Back to China | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft | 2
Chinese Doctor Shi Zhengli was part of a team that working on a coronavirus project jointly with US doctors in 2014 in the United States before it was shut down by the DHS for being too risky. After the US research project was shut down, Dr.www.thegatewaypundit.com
When they do come out with a “vaccine,” I will likely feel more uneasy about receiving that than getting the virus itself. As a healthcare worker, I will definitely be required to receive one first. I don’t envision anyone else being given much of a choice in the matter either. That’s a rather scary thought in itself..
That is still far away from us though, so maybe some truths will emerge before that point that will change our approach.
i am truly hoping if a vaccine is released it proves to be safe, if it isn't the anti-vaxxer movement will grow, imo.I agree with you in regards to the vaccine and potential safety issues from rushing its development and safety testing. I’m also more than likely going to be required to get it for my job once it comes out (edit: if it does)...so, I feel you on your reservations.
However I do not condone the support of an antivaxxing fraudulent pseudoscientist in the woman who created the Plandemic documentary. We, more than ever, need to be very careful on who we listen to as ignorance literally has the potential to kill or cause significant morbidity in the long term. I don’t have a great answer on who exactly to trust as there isnt a great deal of objective data out there, but I do think its fairly easy to determine who most likely shouldnt be trusted - she and “Dr.” Buttar being two of them.
Yes, I definitely take what she claims with a grain of salt. I was mostly surprised to find out about Dr Fauci’s funding of the lab in Wuhan which has apparently had a shady history for years to begin with. I think one of the biggest problems is that we don’t know who to listen to. We have all these organizations and experts who put on a show of being an “expert” in regard to something we have never seen. Shyt, I could pretend to be an expert on this.I agree with you in regards to the vaccine and potential safety issues from rushing its development and safety testing. I’m also more than likely going to be required to get it for my job once it comes out (edit: if it does)...so, I feel you on your reservations.
However I do not condone the support of an antivaxxing fraudulent pseudoscientist in the woman who created the Plandemic documentary. We, more than ever, need to be very careful on who we listen to as ignorance literally has the potential to kill or cause significant morbidity in the long term. I don’t have a great answer on who exactly to trust as there isnt a great deal of objective data out there, but I do think its fairly easy to determine who most likely shouldnt be trusted - she and “Dr.” Buttar being two of them.
Unless things change in the meantime, I picture it being mandatory for everyone who wants to participate in society.At my last physical I politely refused a flu shot. My doctor treated me like I was insane and repeatedly tried to pressure me into it. I can't imagine the pressure that will come with the coronavirus vaccine.
Bing-friggin-go. We havent seen anything like this before. Its uncharted territory. People dont get that collecting real data and analyzing it to the point where it actually means something by it becoming actionable takes a great deal of time. We didnt have time. There wasnt the data to allow for that to happen. So now you have all these conspiracy folks coming out of the woodwork acting like they truly know everything thats going on and bingo people have what they want - answers. They just dont stop to consider how full of S those people who provided them may be.I think one of the biggest problems is that we don’t know who to listen to. We have all these organizations and experts who put on a show of being an “expert” in regard to something we have never seen. Shyt, I could pretend to be an expert on this.
Well, we still don’t know a vaccine would work either right? If it starts mutating every year, a vaccine is fruitless, correct?i am truly hoping if a vaccine is released it proves to be safe, if it isn't the anti-vaxxer movement will grow, imo.
if you know this and I know this then it's a safe bet that they know this...but it won't stop them from releasing a vaccine-there is too much money to be made!!!!Well, we still don’t know a vaccine would work either right? If it starts mutating every year, a vaccine is fruitless, correct?
Q: How did you find that article?Gates, W.H.O., Fauci, Adhanom, etc... All retarded criminals...
The corruption and lies being spread by those tards, and the libtard media is just brutal. GOOG, Twitter (also full-blown libtard) censoring as they see fit. The mighty dollar, patents, fear, control, communism...
The video was already taken downAnyone seen this plandemic documentary the hidden agenda on YouTube??? Check it out, very interesting
Youtube has a policy about misinformationThe video was already taken down
If a vaccine is released it cannot be proven safe if it was just invented. No1 would know what happens 10, 15, 20 years after you take it. I'm not anti vaccine at all. I just want to know the long term results. Unless it's something that builds muscle, then I just worry later loli am truly hoping if a vaccine is released it proves to be safe, if it isn't the anti-vaxxer movement will grow, imo.
I don't think they will come up with a vaccine that gives permanent immunity, rather it will be like a flu shot, ongoing yearly shots to keep up with mutation...this really should concern people over long term effects.If a vaccine is released it cannot be proven safe if it was just invented. No1 would know what happens 10, 15, 20 years after you take it. I'm not anti vaccine at all. I just want to know the long term results. Unless it's something that builds muscle, then I just worry later lol
Holy smokes. What’s interesting is that my state (VA) is planning on phased opening starting next Friday. Some of the gyms in my association will open with strict protocols, followed by a few more 2 weeks later, and the last few a couple weeks later. But the amount of new cases in the association’s main area jumped the past week. While NY is past the peak, it seems we are in the peak and about to reopen. Unless there’s data I don’t have (which easily could be true), it just doesn’t make sense to me.Meanwhile the US mortality rate has crept up to 5.9%
1,263,243 Total Cases
74,810 Dead
Enough of your fear mongering BS dude. Your numbers are falsely elevated by a good 30k.. nearly 70% elevatedMeanwhile the US mortality rate has crept up to 5.9%
1,263,243 Total Cases
74,810 Dead
I Googled it, so of course just that mere fact makes it suspect..
Coronavirus Update (Live): 128,788,291 Cases and 2,815,033 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Pandemic - Worldometer
Live statistics and coronavirus news tracking the number of confirmed cases, recovered patients, tests, and death toll due to the COVID-19 coronavirus from Wuhan, China. Coronavirus counter with new cases, deaths, and number of tests per 1 Million population. Historical data and info. Daily...www.worldometers.info
Enough of your fear mongering BS dude. Your numbers are falsely elevated by a good 30k.. nearly 70% elevated
Find a legitimate source, maybe the CDC.gov
Not that I trust CDC but their numbers Are going to be more accurate that “worldometers”
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Fair enough the math says 5.7Mortality rate of 5.7% by your numbers listed. Dude.
No fear mongering here.
I treat this just like some moron running a cycle without a PCT lined up. Truth.
"Trusted Authority
Worldometer was voted as one of the best free reference websites by the American Library Association (ALA), the oldest and largest library association in the world.
Worldometer is a provider of global COVID-19 statistics for many caring people around the world. Our data is also trusted and used by the UK Government, Johns Hopkins CSSE, the Government of Thailand, the Government of Pakistan, the Government of Sri Lanka, Government of Vietnam, Financial Times, The New York Times, Business Insider, BBC, and many others. "
Would he had died that day if he had not had Covid-19?I've looked at multiple places for these numbers and there all different, lots of them ranging from less then 1%-3.4%
I don't really know what's what but I definitely believe that there are deaths wrongly recorded as coronavirus being the cause. I know for a fact in my state there are a few death reported wrongly. There's a guy that comes into my cousin's restruant for years on one of those breathing machines. He's been on the brink of death for a few years. "Cystic fibrosis" he died from coronavirus, but he didn't. They reported another case saying first infant to die from coronavirus around here. It was sids.
what percentage of that mortality rate were otherwise healthy individuals?Mortality rate of 5.7% by your numbers listed. Dude.
No fear mongering here.
I treat this just like some moron running a cycle without a PCT lined up. Truth.
"Trusted Authority
Worldometer was voted as one of the best free reference websites by the American Library Association (ALA), the oldest and largest library association in the world.
Worldometer is a provider of global COVID-19 statistics for many caring people around the world. Our data is also trusted and used by the UK Government, Johns Hopkins CSSE, the Government of Thailand, the Government of Pakistan, the Government of Sri Lanka, Government of Vietnam, Financial Times, The New York Times, Business Insider, BBC, and many others. "
I want to give healthcare 'experts' credit here...they are putting out infomercials stressing that although otherwise healthy younger people may not be very affected by covid 19, if they don't follow protocols they are putting other more at risk peoples lives in danger...I like seeing this.I've looked at multiple places for these numbers and there all different, lots of them ranging from less then 1%-3.4%
I don't really know what's what but I definitely believe that there are deaths wrongly recorded as coronavirus being the cause. I know for a fact in my state there are a few death reported wrongly. There's a guy that comes into my cousin's restruant for years on one of those breathing machines. He's been on the brink of death for a few years. "Cystic fibrosis" he died from coronavirus, but he didn't. They reported another case saying first infant to die from coronavirus around here. It was sids.
He's been at the point where he could die any day for God knows how long. When you get to the point that your lungs are working at <10%, yes it's very possible he could have died that day regardless.Would he had died that day if he had not had Covid-19?
I'm going to guess, no.
A lot are being under reported as well.
Just like back in "1917" ... 50-200 mil died of Spanish Flu...
How about we say, a lot of people are dying, and it's too many, too fast.
SIDS is defined as sudden death in an infant without an identifiable cause on autopsy. If they did an autopsy and found signs of covid it literally cannot be SIDS.They reported another case saying first infant to die from coronavirus around here. It was sids.
You are correct, but the parents are saying they were told nothing about the baby having covid, it was after the fact that someone put a headline on whatever saying that infant dies of covid. I don't know all the details on this this so I can't talk further then that.SIDS is defined as sudden death in an infant without an identifiable cause on autopsy. If they did an autopsy and found signs of covid it literally cannot be SIDS.
Well, that certainly puts a new twist on things. It’s rather disturbing that Dr. Fauci was involved in giving a 3.7 million dollar grant to the Wuhan laboratory back in 2015.
Gotta look at the numbers apples to apples, for the numbers to have meaning.Actually I stand by my original numbers: (Adjusted by Johns Hopkins)
1,240,513 Confirmed cases
74,852 Deaths Confirmed
That demonstrates a current mortality rate of 6%
One can argue all they want, so where is all that testing if anyone can get tested when they want?
It's been stated already, even at 1% that's 3,200,000 deaths if permitted to go unchecked.
The Spanish Flu is the closest parallel and that claimed about 675,000 Americans
They had 3 waves.
We will have at least several.
INDIANA REOPENED...stores were fcking packed, probably less than half wearing masks and a ton of illinois plated cars in parking lots.My area of PA just extended stay at home orders to June 4. I get it but this is getting crazy I feel like we’ll never reopen.
so you finally agree with me that REQUIRING face masks not just recommending is the route we should have taken at least 2 months ago?
Youre putting a lot of words in my mouth and inferring a lot of info based on me posting a graph. I dont disagree with you about masks and I never have (as far as I remember), fwiw.so you finally agree with me that REQUIRING face masks not just recommending is the route we should have taken at least 2 months ago?
but they do make recommendations...and they should be ashamed of themselves for not recommending MANDATORY masks in public places 2 months ago...according to graph you posted the way those other countries did containment was REQUIRING masks in public places, if the usa is suffering more than those other countries guess who I blame?Youre putting a lot of words in my mouth and inferring a lot of info based on me posting a graph. I dont disagree with you about masks and I never have, fwiw.
Im not going to get back into the discussion you’re trying to get me into any more than saying, again, medical providers make recommendations and the cdc has made a pretty clear recommendation. They dont make laws.
Probably not the very questionable actions of millions of US citizens completely disregarding both social distancing recommendations as well as the mouth covering recommendations that came out over 2 months and 1 month ago respectively, right?but they do make recommendations...and they should be ashamed of themselves for not recommending MANDATORY masks in public places 2 months ago...according to graph you posted the way those other countries did containment was REQUIRING masks in public places, if the usa is suffering more than those other countries guess who I blame?
get the f*ck outta here, republicans have just as much blame in this game---but it was not politicians making recommendations on tv everyday, it was the so called experts and not one of them were recommending making masks MANDATORY and you damned well know it....Probably not the very questionable actions of millions of US citizens completely disregarding both social distancing recommendations as well as the mouth covering recommendations that came out over 2 months and 1 month ago respectively, right?
Probably THE DEMS!
I figured the would portray the fact that I was joking with you lol.get the f*ck outta here, republicans have just as much blame in this game---but it was not politicians making recommendations on tv everyday, it was the so called experts and not one of them were recommending making masks MANDATORY and you damned well know it....
your defense that medical experts don't make policy is a piece of shyt argument.....they make the recommendations and they failed to make the recommendation that masks be mandatory.
just for clarification-you are a part of the medical community-correct?
I ain't looking for no damned recommendations, or suggestions...the countries in graph you post had containment by REQUIRING MASKS BE WORN. are the medical experts in this country so stupid they don't realize thIs is what we HAVE to do to get containment in this country?I figured the would portray the fact that I was joking with you lol.
If you are an American citizen and havent heard the recommendation for social distancing, cloth face coverings, and hand hygiene you have been living under a rock or purposely not paying attention. Everyone knows the recommendations. They CHOOSE not to follow them.
That’s irrelevant to the discussion, but no im currently not employed in the medical field.