Anyone worried if Corona virus keeps spreading the gyms will shut down?
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Woody
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The bill that was written by republicans behind closed doors and without any democrat involvement? God damn democrats hate the homeless!!!!!
xR1pp3Rx
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at least there is 350 million in there for refugees and immigration .
Whisky
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Honestly fellas, if you have family members who are obese they need to be staying away from this thing. Front line medics here in the UK are seeing more and more people being ventilated (and still not looking good) with obesity as the only underlying health factor. These are 30, 40, 50 year olds as well!!
We have an obesity problem but we do sit behind the USA in percentage terms I believe. You could have a real problem on you hands over there.
keep your loved ones safe.
We have an obesity problem but we do sit behind the USA in percentage terms I believe. You could have a real problem on you hands over there.
keep your loved ones safe.
HIT4ME
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This is the drum I have been beating for weeks. America has a population that is 70% overweight and 40% obese and THIS is a pre-existing medical condition. This makes us extremely vulnerable.
HIT4ME
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at least there is 350 million in there for refugees and immigration .
Yeah, this sounds like something Republicans would come up with behind closed doors. Let's send money to the refugees and immigrants!
Unless by $350M for refugees and immigrants you mean for walls, fences, land mines and ammo.
thebigt
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what planet are you living on?
democrats control the house and that is where bills originate, look at all the crap democrats put into that bill that has nothing to do with the immediate needs of AMERICANS!!!!!!
xR1pp3Rx
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you will have to forgive me.. I misspoke. the actual wording says "migration and refugees" !!!
proves these assholes were behind the flocks of illegals coming in, in recent history.
thebigt
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I wonder if fools like sanders, biden and others are still preaching open borders?
Woody
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I live on the planet where the Senate created the $2T stimulus package bill that is now being sent to the house for approval. The house is set to vote on the bill today, and assuming it gets unanimous consent, it will be sent to Trump to be signed into law.
This stimulus package originated in the Senate. That is a fact. Republicans drafted the bill behind closed doors. That also is a fact.
The better question may be what planet do you live on?
Edit: I did a quick google search for you. Here are some sources showing this is a Senate bill that the House is now set to vote on.
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thebigt
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'house passes aid bill after trump declares virus emergency'.
you really think republicans behind closed doors would have come up with a bill so full of bullshit?
Woody
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I have a very strong inclination that your definition of bullshit and my definition of bullshit aren’t anywhere near the same.
thebigt
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I agree 100%!!!
manifesto
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It's because we are testing more than anyone else...why is that ridiculous?
Renew1
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We're certainly the only country our size (population) that will share the numbers.
manifesto
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Exactly
BamBam54
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Yes, the $2T bill being discussed/voted now originated in the Senate.
Where it needs 60 votes to pass.
With several republicans out on quarantine.
With some democrat support needed to pass the bill (even in the Senate).
And THAT is how this left-leaning liberal bullshit got into the Senate bill.
Example here (crappy left biased VOX source)....
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Where it needs 60 votes to pass.
With several republicans out on quarantine.
With some democrat support needed to pass the bill (even in the Senate).
And THAT is how this left-leaning liberal bullshit got into the Senate bill.
Example here (crappy left biased VOX source)....
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Woody
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So you’re against an independent committee determining which corporations get the money? And you’re against restrictions on corporations using government funds on stock buybacks and executive bonuses?
I don’t understand why anyone would be against that.
thebigt
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BAM
Nac
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I have no interest in trying to convince a Christian that there is no God.
Its all the Chinese' fault, anyway.
Trump will no doubt take all the credit for any economic turnaround the US sees, though.
Woody
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Before you stroke out about the CNBC article, you should really review the context on why it was posted.
Woody
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The performing arts center should not have been included. Although, the JFK had bipartisan support. The NEA did not. I haven’t read the provisions as to what the refugee funds are supposed to be used for, but it looks like it goes to the state department to prevent the virus from spreading to refugees and migration population, no? That’s tolerable - but if it’s direct payments or financial support to refugees, it shouldn’t have been included.
thebigt
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I guess that is the bullshit we can agree on-eh?
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Ricky10
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That’s why I wrote confirmed, but I was more referring to the fact that it never should have had the opportunity to permeate our country..
Intubated my first COVID today immediately upon arriving at work. I then proceeded to spend 12 hrs in isolation which is not comfortable for even 10 minutes. Aside from a half hour lunch- no drinking, pissing..nothing....it really sucks! On top of that, it really limits my opportunities to take my stims.
Yes, all of the COVID positive patients I have personally treated so far have been quite overweight as @HIT4ME mentioned.
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HIT4ME
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That’s why I wrote confirmed, but I was more referring to the fact that it never should have had the opportunity to permeate our country..
Intubated my first COVID today immediately upon arriving at work. I then proceeded to spend 12 hrs in isolation which is not comfortable for even 10 minutes. Aside from a half hour lunch- no drinking, pissing..nothing....it really sucks! On top of that, it really limits my opportunities to take my stims.
Yes, all of the COVID positive patients I have personally treated so far have been quite overweight as @HIT4ME mentioned.
That sucks man. Sorry you had to go through that.
manifesto
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It could have been much much worse if Trump wouldn't have input the China travel ban as fast as he did....
Ricky10
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Back at it tomorrow at 6am and I anticipate it will be much busier. Most of the other RTs don’t want the level of exposure you get in the COVID ICU, so I am taking it for the team! I can’t do it every shift for sure though.
Yeah, I just never understood why we were letting people in from other countries that didn’t have the same restrictions in place themselves. All that did was buy us a little time, which definitely did help..
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manifesto
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Lol yes we doThe world has a fookin obesity problem....I go out for a couple items and people have multiple 2liters of SODA in each hand...So not only are these fat asses getting less activity than usual, they’ve upped their poor nutrition habits.
Ricky10
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Our society doesn’t have much to do right now for pleasurable activities and many people are stressed. Comfort eating is surely on the rise...hahaThe world has a fookin obesity problem....I go out for a couple items and people have multiple 2liters of SODA in each hand
Meanwhile, they banned ICU Covid workers from the hospital cafeteria starting tomorrow. It’s not a horrendous idea, but they gave us no solution as to how we are supposed to get food or water for lunch. To me, it’s a no brainer that the very least they could do is provide us with free food and water in an area of their choice.
JoePaul39
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Really? Most Americans would disagree with your view on how is handling things as his approval rating is at a all times high
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Also, do you consider it a big time “fukt” up when he was one of the first counties to ban travel with China even though the Democrats called him a “racist” at the time for doing so? Finally, have you considered while we have the most infections (mainly due to having a HIGH population) we also have one of the lowest fatality rates in the world for those infected? Invalid Link Removed
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JoePaul39
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JoePaul39
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In an order issued Friday, federal officials announced that as of 5 p.m. Sunday, “Foreign nationals other than immediate family of U.S. citizens and permanent residents who have traveled in China in the last 14 days will be denied entry into United States.”
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Nac
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I dont even live in America (thank fuk) and based on most people's opinion in my work place smoko room Trumps "approval" rating here is at an all time low...do I win a Mars bar?
The countries that appear to be fairing best are those that went into a nationwide lockdown early.
But as I indicated previously, discussing politics with "some" Americans is fundamentally no different to an Atheist and a Christian arguing.
The countries that appear to be fairing best are those that went into a nationwide lockdown early.
But as I indicated previously, discussing politics with "some" Americans is fundamentally no different to an Atheist and a Christian arguing.
JoePaul39
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10 bucks says it will be good old USA “big pharma” companies that eventually come up with the vaccine for the rest of the world. Funny how Dems love to villanize “big pharma” though. Also Bernie likes to talk about how our healthcare system sucks ass so bad, yet our recovery rate for American’s infected by this virus beats most of the countries in the entire world. Dems also claim to be “pro worker”, thus many were against bailing out corporations in this bill, yet they seem to forget the corporations are the very ones who employ the worker they claim they are for! They have a word for it when you separate employers from employees...it is called “UNEMPLOYMENT” which is exactly what would happen if we hadn’t bailed out these companies with this relief bill. And let’s not forget the bail out loans have to be paid back WITH INTEREST so the government will actually make money on that portion of the bill just like the government did with the auto loan bailouts that got paid back. Well I am done “ranting” for the night lol!
Whisky
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Few posts above about fatality rates......
these are somewhat misleading when comparing country to country as the differences in testing are vast.
for example, South Korea tested everyone they suspected, this picking up on many who had mild symptoms, low fatality rate in percentage terms compared to the Uk who early on only tested those hospitalised, therefore not recording those well enough to stay at home and recover. Fatality rate will always look higher where your majority of testing is on those I’ll enough with it to be hospitalised.
I believe the USA has been testing fairly extensively?
the amount of testing will also throw out total case numbers - the UK is significantly higher than the recorded numbers. The US clearly has scope for most cases based on population size
but none of that really matters
what matters is the people dying through lack of equipment (I.e deaths that otherwise may have been preventable).
If a healthcare system has the infrastructure and equipment to deal with massive numbers in a short space of time then just let it spread. It can’t be stopped and the population will build immunity.
the reason that can’t be allowed to happen is that no healthcare system in the world can cope with that volume needing ICU and ventilation.
Having a 1% fatality rate is nothing to be proud of if 80% of the population get the virus - just think how many millions of deaths that is.
the spread has to be slowed down to allow healthcare systems to give people a fair chance. Many will die but less than need to.
Over in the UK we have two polar opposite leaders of the main parties in agreement. Corbyn is a hard left wing socialist (pretty much a communist) and Johnson is as far right wing capitalist as we’ve had for many many years. These two fucking hate each other, over brexit it was crazy arguing yet on this not one bit of disagreement over what needs to be done.
these are somewhat misleading when comparing country to country as the differences in testing are vast.
for example, South Korea tested everyone they suspected, this picking up on many who had mild symptoms, low fatality rate in percentage terms compared to the Uk who early on only tested those hospitalised, therefore not recording those well enough to stay at home and recover. Fatality rate will always look higher where your majority of testing is on those I’ll enough with it to be hospitalised.
I believe the USA has been testing fairly extensively?
the amount of testing will also throw out total case numbers - the UK is significantly higher than the recorded numbers. The US clearly has scope for most cases based on population size
but none of that really matters
what matters is the people dying through lack of equipment (I.e deaths that otherwise may have been preventable).
If a healthcare system has the infrastructure and equipment to deal with massive numbers in a short space of time then just let it spread. It can’t be stopped and the population will build immunity.
the reason that can’t be allowed to happen is that no healthcare system in the world can cope with that volume needing ICU and ventilation.
Having a 1% fatality rate is nothing to be proud of if 80% of the population get the virus - just think how many millions of deaths that is.
the spread has to be slowed down to allow healthcare systems to give people a fair chance. Many will die but less than need to.
Over in the UK we have two polar opposite leaders of the main parties in agreement. Corbyn is a hard left wing socialist (pretty much a communist) and Johnson is as far right wing capitalist as we’ve had for many many years. These two fucking hate each other, over brexit it was crazy arguing yet on this not one bit of disagreement over what needs to be done.
HIT4ME
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This is an excellent post. Well said.
thebigt
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if anyone was wondering why mainstream media seems so biased in favor of china---look at how much china has invested in American media corporations-comcast in particular.
there are many rumors that American politicians[both republican and democrat]are getting huge kickbacks from the Chinese.
unlike what joe biden has said said, china is not our friend.
there are many rumors that American politicians[both republican and democrat]are getting huge kickbacks from the Chinese.
unlike what joe biden has said said, china is not our friend.
BamBam54
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Good article about why forecasts are lately being revised down.
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Meanwhile death toll keeps rising fast. Still doubling about every 4 days. That's gotta mean a horrible rush on limited hospital beds/people/equipment. I hope we don;t ever reach THAT breaking point! Really appreciate the @Ricky10 updates from the front lines!
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Meanwhile death toll keeps rising fast. Still doubling about every 4 days. That's gotta mean a horrible rush on limited hospital beds/people/equipment. I hope we don;t ever reach THAT breaking point! Really appreciate the @Ricky10 updates from the front lines!