needle size for trt

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For those of you on test cyp, what size needle to you use to pin? My doc just switched me over from gel to test cyp injections. I did my first one at the doctor's office with the nurse, and pretty sure that needle had to be 2" long (23 gauge)! I kept asking her if I had to go all the way in with it. Not gonna lie, it took me a while to get the nerve to plunge that thing into my thigh lol. My thigh was sore as hell for 3 days! Looks like I should be able to go with a 1" long needle with no problem.

Also, do you guys aspirate? What can happen if you don't?
 
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I’d aspirate in quad cuz veins. Never know. I don’t like quad not only Bc of veins but you can strike some mean nerves I’ve heard.
That’s why you pin slowly lol if it starts to tingle or burn then back off a bit
 

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I just picked up some 1" 23G. Wanted 25G but they apparently didn't have any. First time hearing about the nerve thing in the quads....hope that sh1t doesn't happen to me!

So when you say pin slowly, you're just slowly pushing the needle in? Nurse told me to pin it like I was flicking a dart, but not quite as hard...
 
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You'll feel the initial poke, after that, nothing.
Look up ventroglute injections. Basically, that thin muscle that runs along your hip. Absolutely painless and easily accessible, as opposed to twisting around to pin your glutes.
 
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You'll feel the initial poke, after that, nothing.
Look up ventroglute injections. Basically, that thin muscle that runs along your hip. Absolutely painless and easily accessible, as opposed to twisting around to pin your glutes.
 
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You'll feel the initial poke, after that, nothing.
Look up ventroglute injections. Basically, that thin muscle that runs along your hip. Absolutely painless and easily accessible, as opposed to twisting around to pin your glutes.
 
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Why pin quads? Especially if you’re a beginner? I just don’t see a reason to go thru that when there’s much better area... glutes VG Delts
 
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Why pin quads? Especially if you’re a beginner? I just don’t see a reason to go thru that when there’s much better area... glutes VG Delts
Quads are fast, easy and relatively painless, lot more area to pin and you can see what you’re doing
 
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Quads are fast, easy and relatively painless, lot more area to pin and you can see what you’re doing
I know quads work for you and you love them but still facts is you got chances to hit things you don’t want and most people don’t want to run them because they hit a nerve 50% or the time. No joke I could pin my glutes in the dark with my eyes closed I doubt quads are that easy even if you can see them. I haven’t hit a nerve in 500+ injections in glutes / vg...
 
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I know quads work for you and you love them but still facts is you got chances to hit things you don’t want and most people don’t want to run them because they hit a nerve 50% or the time. No joke I could pin my glutes in the dark with my eyes closed I doubt quads are that easy even if you can see them. I haven’t hit a nerve in 500+ injections in glutes / vg...
Fair that’s a very valid point. I can not argue with that
 
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I know you’re a beast With quads tho I don’t doubt it a second.. maybe one day you can hold my quads and show me the way
I pin them 2-4 times a week haha
 

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A 5/8 needle in your glutes? Seems it wouldn’t be long enough for IM but obviously it is. Reading these responses makes me not want to pin my quads now.
 
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Sticking delts is easy imo, quads I hated though, they would twitch like a mother lover everytime
 
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Also, I have no idea how anyone in here does shoulder injections.... I can not reach my delt with my other arm..... I can’t even itch my back. It’s either a lack of flexibility or just being to big.
Must be flexibility bruh...u ain't that big
 
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For those of you on test cyp, what size needle to you use to pin? My doc just switched me over from gel to test cyp injections. I did my first one at the doctor's office with the nurse, and pretty sure that needle had to be 2" long (23 gauge)! I kept asking her if I had to go all the way in with it. Not gonna lie, it took me a while to get the nerve to plunge that thing into my thigh lol. My thigh was sore as hell for 3 days! Looks like I should be able to go with a 1" long needle with no problem.

Also, do you guys aspirate? What can happen if you don't?
28g 5/16" rotating quads. I'm very lean though. I used to aspirate but haven't in the last few years. If it hurts going in, take it out and try again.
 
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I’d aspirate in quad cuz veins. Never know. I don’t like quad not only Bc of veins but you can strike some mean nerves I’ve heard.
outer quads doesn't have the nerves like the inner quads.
 

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I'll let you in on a secret. Test Cyp, believe it or not, can be injected with a 31G needle.
I would do 31G 1/2" in delt, or 31G 1" in thigh. The tremendous pressure allows it to be pushed through.
Simply draw up the Test with a large 22G or 23G, then swap the needle.
 
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This is wrong. It’s not about the ester, all esters are same thickness because the chemical comes in powder which is absorbed into oil when you blend it and boil it in. It depends on which sort of oil you use to mix the powder of the testosterone in, not which ester it is. U can put test cyp and test prop into a water base shot if you really wanted to. That’s why things like sarms and orals is in capsules, liquid, and oil. Capsules is the pure powder not diluted into a liquid, liquid is like boiling the powder in a big pot and letting it dilute into the liquid. then injectable oil is diluting the chemical powder into an oil-based liquid. Also, the more powerful or strong the mg/ml is, the more the shot will hurt.
What is wrong about his statement? Are you saying you can't inject test cyp, or any test for that matter, with a 31g?
 
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What is wrong about his statement? Are you saying you can't inject test cyp, or any test for that matter, with a 31g?
He's saying it's not because it's cyp, the ester don't change the thickness, the oil does.

You can inject almost anything with a slinpin, especially if it's warmed up. it just takes longer with smaller pins.

As to the comment he made on only injecting glutes and all the mumbo jumbo that followed I don't agree. I like rotating glutes and delts most of the time. And about being too big to inject delts, I'm sure if a 275lb off-season bodybuilder can any1 can. Unless you got little T-Rex arms.

Inject wherever you're comfortable. There's like 50 spots on your body to choose from. Glutes tend to be easiest, delts too. Upper chest seems extremely easy but I'm weary about trying it only because I don't know if there's anything important up there that you might hit and I've been too lazy look into it.

I know guys that pick a weak bodypart every cycle and only inject there weather it be lats, triceps, biceps, calves ect. I'm too much of a pussy to stick biceps triceps or calves
 
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Guess I didn't pick up on it that he was saying other esters besides cyp couldn't be used in a 31. I prefer delts. How can you not reach the side of your arm but you can reach around and stick your ass lol.
 

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This is wrong. It’s not about the ester, all esters are same thickness because the chemical comes in powder which is absorbed into oil when you blend it and boil it in. It depends on which sort of oil you use to mix the powder of the testosterone in, not which ester it is. U can put test cyp and test prop into a water base shot if you really wanted to. That’s why things like sarms and orals is in capsules, liquid, and oil. Capsules is the pure powder not diluted into a liquid, liquid is like boiling the powder in a big pot and letting it dilute into the liquid. then injectable oil is diluting the chemical powder into an oil-based liquid. Also, the more powerful or strong the mg/ml is, the more the shot will hurt.
Nope. I didn't say it was because of the ester. Indeed, the oil used for Test. Cyp can be injected through a 31G needle.
 

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He's saying it's not because it's cyp, the ester don't change the thickness, the oil does.

As to the comment he made on only injecting glutes and all the mumbo jumbo that followed I don't agree. I like rotating glutes and delts most of the time. And about being too big to inject delts, I'm sure if a 275lb off-season bodybuilder can any1 can. Unless you got little T-Rex arms.
You need better reading comprehension skills. I don't appreciate you saying that I said things I never did. Again, regardless of the ester, the oil will go through a 31G needle. Most people never try because they assume it will not inject, but the speed of injection is the same as with a larger needle; heating not required.

I never said anything about injecting glutes. Again, please read carefully and think before posting.
 
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Bro why do u understand that there are different types of oil and not just one and there are many oils that are different density and thickness then others ? That’s what I’m trying to say. Ester doesn’t matter, and there is not a universal type of oil for injecting. There are various kinds
All he said was you can inject test c with a 31g and he is correct. You're the one bringing other oils into this that no one even mentioned. Let's chill on this.
 
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You need better reading comprehension skills. I don't appreciate you saying that I said things I never did. Again, regardless of the ester, the oil will go through a 31G needle. Most people never try because they assume it will not inject, but the speed of injection is the same as with a larger needle; heating not required.

I never said anything about injecting glutes. Again, please read carefully and think before posting.
Are you retarded? I never said a single word about you. I wasn't talking about you not 1 time. I was referring to Logan you tard
 

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Are you retarded? I never said a single word about you. I wasn't talking about you not 1 time. I was referring to Logan you tard
I apologize. I thought that comment was from loganyy. I didn't catch that. Lol. Honest, mistake.
 

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All he said was you can inject test c with a 31g and he is correct. You're the one bringing other oils into this that no one even mentioned. Let's chill on this.
Thank you. The vast majority of people use Test. Cyp with the standard oil from the manufacturer and get it from the pharmacy. So, this oil is normally very viscous and difficult to draw up. Everyone knows it takes time drawing up, they assume it will not go through a 31G needle for administration. That is the point of what I was saying.
 
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Warm the oil. Done. Glutes for me but I have done sub q which is nice and easy. 1.5” needle for glutes 25g.
 
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Warm the oil. Done. Glutes for me but I have done sub q which is nice and easy. 1.5” needle for glutes 25g.
 

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A 5/8 needle in your glutes? Seems it wouldn’t be long enough for IM but obviously it is. Reading these responses makes me not want to pin my quads now.
It's plenty long. Anyone trying to say it needs to be more either has no idea or just likes to stick longer needles in.
 
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It's plenty long. Anyone trying to say it needs to be more either has no idea or just likes to stick longer needles in.
I was thinking how fat does your ass have to be for 5/8 of an inch not to make it into the muscle. I probably would'nt shoot 2-3ml in that shallow but for a simple TRT shot...
 

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I was thinking how fat does your ass have to be for 5/8 of an inch not to make it into the muscle. I probably would'nt shoot 2-3ml in that shallow but for a simple TRT shot...
Yep, the average subcutaneous thickness in male glutes is 11-14mm. Females would need a longer needle as the average is 24mm.
 
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I was thinking how fat does your ass have to be for 5/8 of an inch not to make it into the muscle. I probably would'nt shoot 2-3ml in that shallow but for a simple TRT shot...
Are you saying something about me bum?
You looking at me bum?
:p

I have some 1.5" laying around, until I order my 3/4" Vanishpoint Needles.
Yeah, agreed with 1" being the longest needed, 1.5" is just like poking yourself with a cable.
 
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Daily sub q injections sounds horrible
 
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The worst part of any injection is when the needle breaks the skin surface; causing the pain... I dont see a point in daily injections. Test levels stay stable enough with 2 times per week

Cant imagine everyday for the rest of my life. Maybe as well be diabetic
 
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I'd be curious about overall lipids and bloodwork with those that inject daily. I tried 2x weekly for about a year a while back and it seriously screwed with my RBC, HCT, and HgB. Increased them all a ton, but saw no benefit on anything else. Understanding the point is to keep test levels more consistent, it doesn't seem like an actual benefit based on my results. I've never seen anyone post labs or evidence pointing to benefits so it would be nice.
 
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I'd be curious about overall lipids and bloodwork with those that inject daily. I tried 2x weekly for about a year a while back and it seriously screwed with my RBC, HCT, and HgB. Increased them all a ton, but saw no benefit on anything else. Understanding the point is to keep test levels more consistent, it doesn't seem like an actual benefit based on my results. I've never seen anyone post labs or evidence pointing to benefits so it would be nice.
Will be getting bloodwork in February in my log
 
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Are you saying something about me bum?
You looking at me bum?


I have some 1.5" laying around, until I order my 3/4" Vanishpoint Needles.
Yeah, agreed with 1" being the longest needed, 1.5" is just like poking yourself with a cable.
Honestly weather I use a 21g 1.5 or a 25g 1in or 5/8 in glutes it feels the same, but, sometimes with the shorter pin I get a bruise in the glutes. Nothing serious but it's there and I don't get that with the bigger pins. Right now I got 100 25g 1in so no matter where or how much/little I pin that's what's getting used
 

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I use slin pins and inject triceps. No pain, bruising, nothing.
 

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