I was SO close to going with Dbol, just didn’t know about the liver issues and whatnot being my first cycle. Especially since the source I found I could get a ton for very cheap when compared to what these mild Andro’s cost and also make way more gains.
Liver ain't bad on DBol just take some NAC, or TUDCA and drink a lot of water.
Yeah i did 2 x Dbol stand alone back in the day and M1-T but want something a little more mild + dbol really should be used with Test and i am not going to be pinning.
Theres an outlet here in the UK that sells 1-AD and ive messaged them a few questions as its cheap but we all know the raws must be hard to source so am reluctant to try.
You do realize that the statement you make about you should be running test with DBol applies to every oral out there right? Including these andros... These weak prohormones still shut you down/ suppress you & then you need test. It is not any different except you aren't getting anywhere near the progress you could for half the money.
Just to clarify for anyone reading, all orals "should" be run with testosterone. The only reason you are hearing it about DBol and the like is because no one expects someone who is settling for a prohormone as an anabolic to be willing to run test with it. However that doesn't change the reality that the orals start to shut you down and without test you start running into other issues, and often lose a larger chunk of the gains post cycle due to having to have a shorter run so the muscle does not get a chance to settle in to create a new set point.
Oh and the Dbol did make me feel alpha but also didnt do much for my lipids either though.
Yeah any stronger anabolic/androgen is not going to do anything positive for your lipids including these andros. If you take enough to see real gains your lipids are going to be off. Plus their are lots of things you can do to mitigate that on cycle. Something like LGD is not going to be nice to them either.