The New Product Release Thread

The Solution said:
Do people really need 425mg of caffeine to actually workout (325mg Caffeine + 100mg DiCaffeine Malate)?
If so I truly question their sole reason for working out or mental fortitude in the first place.
It is like its a race to see who can make the larger stim bomb now and days.
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I can't imagine taking that much caffeine in one dose. That's more in one dose than most people have in a day. Jeez
 
Uk brand dropping some new things

I know that the pump product will contain vaso6

Other then that no labels have been shown

They also have a stim product coming out called stim head.. again no labels yet



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bbartsche said:
I can't imagine taking that much caffeine in one dose. That's more in one dose than most people have in a day. Jeez
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Eh, I don’t think you’re considering the law of diminishing returns. You don’t get double the effect from 400mg caffeine as 200, as it’s not linear. Like many things, doubling the dose might get you, say, 25% more pop.

That’s how people can work up to 600mg servings & such sometimes. Just because you can’t fathom it doesn’t mean plenty of people aren’t fine with it. I had a friend who could drink GREEN tea and be absolutely wired, couldn’t sleep for 8 hours. On 3mg caffeine. People vary in response significantly.
 
Hyde said:
Eh, I don’t think you’re considering the law of diminishing returns. You don’t get double the effect from 400mg caffeine as 200, as it’s not linear. Like many things, doubling the dose might get you, say, 25% more pop.

That’s how people can work up to 600mg servings & such sometimes. Just because you can’t fathom it doesn’t mean plenty of people aren’t fine with it. I had a friend who could drink GREEN tea and be absolutely wired, couldn’t sleep for 8 hours. On 3mg caffeine. People vary in response significantly.
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Never once mentioned doubling the amount or even gave a number. Was referring to the fact that 300+ mg caffeine is a lot for a single dose
 
bbartsche said:
Never once mentioned doubling the amount or even gave a number. Was referring to the fact that 300+ mg caffeine is a lot for a single dose
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I understand that. And I am saying they sell it because there are plenty of people that don’t feel that way, and that individuals respond differently.

I cannot take any amount of Yohimbine. 2mg is an uncomfortable excessive feeling for me. There are folks who feel good on 20mg!
 
Hyde said:
I understand that. And I am saying they sell it because there are plenty of people that don’t feel that way, and that individuals respond differently.

I cannot take any amount of Yohimbine. 2mg is an uncomfortable excessive feeling for me. There are folks who feel good on 20mg!
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True, the garbage Yohimbine is an anxiety nightmare for me, but HCL is perfectly fine.
 
The Solution said:
I find it hard to believe that drinking 300mg of caffeine two times before noon does much for you.
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And that’s kinda really illustrating all I’m trying to point out here: 400+mg caffeine may be crazy for some, but same as Starbucks will throw extra shots of espresso into a 20oz coffee if you pay for it, there’s a real and prominent market.
 
Hyde said:
And that’s kinda really illustrating all I’m trying to point out here: 400+mg caffeine may be crazy for some, but same as Starbucks will throw extra shots of espresso into a 20oz coffee if you pay for it, there’s a real and prominent market.
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There are also many factors that go into this and can be modified so people don't have to abuse and rely on stims to live their day to day lives. If you have to wake up and slam 300mg of caffeine from an energy drink to wake up there is an issue or red flag that needs to be addressed (proper sleep)We did not grow up over decades of drinking energy drinks to survive. People use to farm, hunt, and live day in and day out and never touch a gram of caffeine. There will be some outliers, but it hasn't been until the last 5-10 years or so there has been a major increase in caffeine intake in the forms of carbonation beverages (hence why you see everyone and their mother joining that part of the industry)

- Stress Management
- Sleep Pattern
- Proper Hydration
- Yoga, Meditation, Stretching

These are just some of the things that can remedy an overabundance of caffeine intake. For the most part in this day and age, people work too much which causes extra stress, lack of sleep, and the overuse of caffeine to operate on a day to day lifestyle. Again not the case for everyone, but it is becoming more frequent with not allowing ourselves to get proper rest and recovery to help function on a daily basis.
 
Purple Wraath new flavor from Controlled Labs

Freedom Pop

CL be taking all my money with orange Beat and the new probiotic coming out soon!

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I saw that on their site earlier when I was trying to decide what to get for my 30 labels!

I was beyond excited, as I had no idea they had released this flavor!
 
m1k3_d0z4 said:
I saw that on their site earlier when I was trying to decide what to get for my 30 labels!

I was beyond excited, as I had no idea they had released this flavor!
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Bro. I’ll pay you. Cut these!!! There’s only 24 (not counting the 5+ in my pantry )
I always feel like imma lose finger when I cut the OT bottles.
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Afi140 said:
Bro. I’ll pay you. Cut these!!! There’s only 24 (not counting the 5+ in my pantry )
I always feel like imma lose finger when I cut the OT bottles. ]
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Not even lying here I resorted to using a saw. Trying to cut all my oximega bottles was one of the most frustrating experiences ever haha
 
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The Solution said:
So for those who said Ghost Chips Ahoy tasted bad I found an answer:

There was a flavor consistency issue on the first run of the product, so Ghost is going back to re-fix the issue before launching a second run of the product. That may be why there was so hit or miss feedback on the product.

Which makes more sense since feedback was very inconsistent.
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Thanks for that info but they aren’t getting my money a 2nd time.
 
The Solution said:
So for those who said Ghost Chips Ahoy tasted bad I found an answer:

There was a flavor consistency issue on the first run of the product, so Ghost is going back to re-fix the issue before launching a second run of the product. That may be why there was so hit or miss feedback on the product.

Which makes more sense since feedback was very inconsistent.
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So we're just stuck with shitty tasting whey because of their screwup? Sweet, I'm never buying from them again.
 
The Solution said:
So for those who said Ghost Chips Ahoy tasted bad I found an answer:

There was a flavor consistency issue on the first run of the product, so Ghost is going back to re-fix the issue before launching a second run of the product. That may be why there was so hit or miss feedback on the product.

Which makes more sense since feedback was very inconsistent.
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I didn't buy this protein flavor cause I've always been afraid of Ghost'$ :D but if they
know they have an issue with the flavoring they should make good on all the people
who had bad flavored tubs and issue them a replacement cause I've heard more bad
feedback than good on this flavor. Just my opinion.:)
 
I sent an email expressing my displeasure with the clumping on the CG V3 legend....they sent me a link to their YouTube video saying it might clump, but use a fork

I sent them photos of the massive bricks inside the tub and they just said to shake the canister. Yeah no, I had to break them apart in my blender to make a powder again and then store in the fridge.

They should’ve used a better moisture pack, as I used other preworkouts with similar ingredients and have never experienced those types of clumping issues. If they knew clumping would be an issue, then they should have done a better job of preventing that from happening. For what we had to pay for the pre-workout, I would expect a better result.

I’m pretty sure they wouldn’t have accepted those clumping issues from their manufacturer.
 
The Solution said:
So for those who said Ghost Chips Ahoy tasted bad I found an answer:

There was a flavor consistency issue on the first run of the product, so Ghost is going back to re-fix the issue before launching a second run of the product. That may be why there was so hit or miss feedback on the product.

Which makes more sense since feedback was very inconsistent.
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Haven’t seen any positive feedback here aside from yours. I’m really glad I held off on this one
 
The Solution said:
So for those who said Ghost Chips Ahoy tasted bad I found an answer:

There was a flavor consistency issue on the first run of the product, so Ghost is going back to re-fix the issue before launching a second run of the product. That may be why there was so hit or miss feedback on the product.

Which makes more sense since feedback was very inconsistent.
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Inconsistent meaning you were the only one who liked it.
 
Ghost is definitely style over substance. You've got companies discussing the correct synergy of ingredients for the best effects and results... Ghost release a video where they all sit round trying to decide if pastel blue labels look better on a white tub or maybe the more green label on a black tub.
 
m1k3_d0z4 said:
I sent an email expressing my displeasure with the clumping on the CG V3 legend....they sent me a link to their YouTube video saying it might clump, but use a fork

I sent them photos of the massive bricks inside the tub and they just said to shake the canister. Yeah no, I had to break them apart in my blender to make a powder again and then store in the fridge.

They should’ve used a better moisture pack, as I used other preworkouts with similar ingredients and have never experienced those types of clumping issues. If they knew clumping would be an issue, then they should have done a better job of preventing that from happening. For what we had to pay for the pre-workout, I would expect a better result.

I’m pretty sure they wouldn’t have accepted those clumping issues from their manufacturer.
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honestly pretty upset I purchased this one for $50 lol the serving is huge which isn’t an issue but it sits heavy on the stomach and I’ve nearly had to go throw up because of the stomach discomfort mid workout. Also their Friity Cereal protein was bottom 3 protein I’ve ever bought as far as taste goes lol happy I held off on the chips ahoy
 
Raw Dog said:
Haven’t seen any positive feedback here aside from yours. I’m really glad I held off on this one
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Wobmarvel said:
Inconsistent meaning you were the only one who liked it.
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Disagree. It's by far the best tasting protein I've had in years (going back to the old Xtreme Formulations Lemon Cream Pie days). I'm on a cut right now so it's pretty much the highlight of my day (in terms of meals) when I drink this with milk (albeit it's not the most cut-friendly profile but I make it work).
 
The Express 42 said:
honestly pretty upset I purchased this one for $50 lol the serving is huge which isn’t an issue but it sits heavy on the stomach and I’ve nearly had to go throw up because of the stomach discomfort mid workout. Also their Friity Cereal protein was bottom 3 protein I’ve ever bought as far as taste goes lol happy I held off on the chips ahoy
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Hey brother, don’t suffer through your workouts, send it to me!!!

I will say, aside from the issues I mentioned above, I truly enjoy this pre. I don’t use the full serving as it’s just too much for me and how I want to feel, so the value for me is great! It’s interesting you mentioned it cussing you stomach issues, as I train first thing in the morning with only this and water in my body and I have had no such issues.
 
The Solution said:
Purple Wraath new flavor from Controlled Labs

Freedom Pop

CL be taking all my money with orange Beat and the new probiotic coming out soon!

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Here’s to a happy summertime! This is such a great flavor, versatile for stacking and great on its own. The kind of flavor you throw in with some ice cubes and sip when outside just cuz.
 
I had high hopes for the ghost protein line and jumped on the hype train. The blueberry was meh at best but the cookie pieces in it where really good.
The cereal milk was a better flavor but still enjoy other brands more. But everyone’s taste buds are different
 
Resolve10 said:
Well that’s great!



To a certain extent I agree, but I also find for some formulas it just takes the edge off of any come down and training in the middle of the day I love it because it leaves me feeling good heading back to work after.

I think the bigger issue is how small of doses some companies use or not disclosing it is 40% in the label so it “seems” like it’s dosed higher.
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Exactly. If they are using Teacrine in a powdered product, it is very likely flavorless Teacrine, which is only like 40% theacrine. Unless the manufacturer sends the product to a flavoring house and they cover up the flavor, it is almost certainly 40% theacrine. I have my upcoming pre-workout at a flavoring house right now trying to cover up the flavor, along with othere things. The 150 mg theacrine I have in my product is a true 150 mg theacrine. However, the dynamine in my product is 40%, which is why I dose it at 250 mg, which equals 100 mg dynamine. :)
 
Resolve10 said:
Those are both what I thought haha

They are out of California though so it’s prob the latter.

I do like a few of their products so far so interested in what this ends up being like, especially if they really did take that long to put it together.
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Not a clue, and Looking back they haven’t actually said what it stands for either


Interesting to see how ‘advanced’ a pump pre is too

Looking forward to seeing the label


Also, performax labs have announced that Vasomax is getting an update too
 
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Nothing particularly scary there. I'm sure statements like "not for beginners" is pure marketing ploy. It's obviously to make everyone think it's got some crazy secret too it. Should just say ”for everyone, beginners use half a scoop only" at least then you are not turning away potential customers who may take your "not for beginners" literally.
 
Wobmarvel said:
Nothing particularly scary there. I'm sure statements like "not for beginners" is pure marketing ploy. It's obviously to make everyone think it's got some crazy secret too it. Should just say ”for everyone, beginners use half a scoop only" at least then you are not turning away potential customers who may take your "not for beginners" literally.
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I know, but it’s a hardcore stim for hardcore advanced PHD 70 years in the gym game users only


You can’t be a gym noob taking this
 
DEVANS89 said:
I know, but it’s a hardcore stim for hardcore advanced PHD 70 years in the gym game users only


You can’t be a gym noob taking this
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I can just picture noobs drinking this and going crazy and jumping from the windows. All because they didn't heed the warnings.
 
Wobmarvel said:
I can just picture noobs drinking this and going crazy and jumping from the windows. All because they didn't heed the warnings.
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Happens more often then you’d think


It’s a pandemic over here, it’s not yet hit the US

Like 28 days later the ‘stim virus’
 
The Solution said:
Just type Ghost Chips Ahoy on Youtube and found this in seconds. 9 out of the 10 videos published show positive feedback. I could also post screenshots via social media (on IG), but you get the point. See if you can get someone to send you a few samples and form your own conclusion in the future when the 2nd run comes out.
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If there are any issues with Chips Ahoy you can contact Ghost CS about the Chips Ahoy flavor.
Or if you got it from GNC they offer a return policy.. exchange for another flavor or product to your liking. This way you don't have to let it collect dust.
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How many of those are sponsored in some way?

I’ve learned to pay zero attention to reviews now, especially video reviews on YouTube, as you just can’t tell who’s being honest and who’s being paid.
 
Wobmarvel said:
I can just picture noobs drinking this and going crazy and jumping from the windows. All because they didn't heed the warnings.
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Jack3d was the first one I saw with a ‘expert use only’ warning on the label. I perhaps should’ve heeded this the first time I used it (OG version) as I thought I was going to die
 
faipdeooiad said:
How many of those are sponsored in some way?

I’ve learned to pay zero attention to reviews now, especially video reviews on YouTube, as you just can’t tell who’s being honest and who’s being paid.
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True, problem with ghost is its "cool" to like it regardless as to whether they are any good. Not saying their formulas are rubbish but they are pretty safe and mainstream similar to say redcon 1. Only way more expensive. Someone who jumps on the "ghost" Train and supports them will probably get more followers and views due to its trendiness. This will lead to YouTube lies. They are marketed very well and I assure you there are people that use ghost supplements that don't have a clue what the ingredients are, what they are supposed to do and who have never heard of the likes of Sparta, OL, PES, redcon etc.
 
faipdeooiad said:
How many of those are sponsored in some way?

I’ve learned to pay zero attention to reviews now, especially video reviews on YouTube, as you just can’t tell who’s being honest and who’s being paid.
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yeah, i was thinking the same thing, I'm very skeptical about reviews and certain brands..

its strange how people on here didn't like it yet youtube, a quick search and the top ones are all positive... strange.

i know we are a small minority, but even after ghost admitted there was an error with flavouring all these people love it
 
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