60.Hey how many caps come in a bottle? I see 1 cap is 1 serving but not how many total?
Debating on dosing. 2222 or 1223.
I like gradually increasing doses to keep gains rolling
60.Hey how many caps come in a bottle? I see 1 cap is 1 serving but not how many total?
At 2 caps it's a moderate dmz dose 40. Msten 30 which I think is the sweet spot for msten and I havnt used m1a. But 50 from what I've been told is reasonable. I don't usually touch stuff like this but im bored so... YaIsn't that a high dosage of msten, a moderate one of dmz, and a high one of m1ad?
30msten is fine but gains are sssllliiiigggghtllyy better than 20 and sides are double.At 2 caps it's a moderate dmz dose 40. Msten 30 which I think is the sweet spot for msten and I havnt used m1a. But 50 from what I've been told is reasonable. I don't usually touch stuff like this but im bored so... Ya
1223. Or just 11222 ideally.60.
Debating on dosing. 2222 or 1223.
I like gradually increasing doses to keep gains rolling
I literally get zero sides from msten at 3030msten is fine but gains are sssllliiiigggghtllyy better than 20 and sides are double.
Of course that’s just for me, rickyblobbly and Math. Loads of guys can run it higher. Especially younger guys. But add those other two? NuckingFuts.
50 of DMZ would yield good results
20-30 of msten would yield amazing results(even after 20 cycles, puttin on 15lbs and adding 50/60 to your bench rep with relative ease.
Like yourself, haven’t ran M1A but it’s yet another ran solo bc of its toxicity. It’s almost like 1 cap would be damn near a FULL dose of SuperDMZ 2.0 stack with an additional 25m1a in it. And I, at 37 on only 20/20 DMZ/msten put on more muscle and strength in 4 weeks then I do in a 9 week NPP cycle.
If you’re going to post at least few times a week I would make a log and link it here. Then if people search it later for feedback they can see your thoughts easily.I'm excited for this. I'm hoping I'm still resist into side effects like I used to be 4 years ago or more. For the next week or however long that stuff takes to show up I'm going to increase cardio and not lift very heavy just to make sure everything's Feeling Good by the time I start. Do you guys want me to just log it here or start a new thread
I’ve run it at 30mgs and As you said it’s not really worth it. You barelllyy get more gains, sure strength will be way up compared to 20mg but the sides are horrible. Plus I feel the higher dosages of orals you do the quicker it fires back at you. I’m 29 years and I can’t do orals anymore. I’m 5 days in m1A and my appetit is dead already.30msten is fine but gains are sssllliiiigggghtllyy better than 20 and sides are double.
Of course that’s just for me, rickyblobbly and Math. Loads of guys can run it higher. Especially younger guys. But add those other two? NuckingFuts.
50 of DMZ would yield good results
20-30 of msten would yield amazing results(even after 20 cycles, puttin on 15lbs and adding 50/60 to your bench rep with relative ease.
Like yourself, haven’t ran M1A but it’s yet another ran solo bc of its toxicity. It’s almost like 1 cap would be damn near a FULL dose of SuperDMZ 2.0 stack with an additional 25m1a in it. And I, at 37 on only 20/20 DMZ/msten put on more muscle and strength in 4 weeks then I do in a 9 week NPP cycle.
Just M1A or Silverback? Are you taking at least 500mg TUDCA and 1,000mg NAC daily?I’ve run it at 30mgs and As you said it’s not really worth it. You barelllyy get more gains, sure strength will be way up compared to 20mg but the sides are horrible. Plus I feel the higher dosages of orals you do the quicker it fires back at you. I’m 29 years and I can’t do orals anymore. I’m 5 days in m1A and my appetit is dead already.
Yeah I always take tudca and nac. Since my last msten cycle I just think I gotta realise my body can’t take those harsh orals anymore. I’m feeling very good though no changes except I can’t eat before like 3pmJust M1A or Silverback? Are you taking at least 500mg TUDCA and 1,000mg NAC daily?
People kinda scoff at TUDCA because they think that the liver is tough enough to regenerate on it’s own so damage prevention isn’t that necessary. But it’s not necessarily about that. TUDCA is about being and feeling healthier while on the orals. It directly improves quality of life. It’s a luxury compound, essentially. But it really helps.
Tricks I’ve heard are to eat a really high calorie breakfast in, then take your oral once the food is down. Then get a couple high calorie shakes in, then a big dinner and the 2nd dose of orals.Yeah I always take tudca and nac. Since my last msten cycle I just think I gotta realise my body can’t take those harsh orals anymore. I’m feeling very good though no changes except I can’t eat before like 3pm
I was actually going to try this tomorrow because I noticed my pm dose is completly fine I usually take my am dose 9am with a shake then I go to work and eat breakfest but it’s too late... going to try and get my 800-900 calories in and then take the pill. Thanks for actually confirming thatTricks I’ve heard are to eat a really high calorie breakfast in, then take your oral once the food is down. Then get a couple high calorie shakes in, then a big dinner and the 2nd dose of orals.
Gains awaitingSo i ordered this Saturday and my brother just told me there's a package at my house and this is the only thing I've ordered so if that is what it is, fastest shipping ever
I'm gonna spend the rest of this week planning out exactly what I'm going to do for this cycle and filling up my freezer with meat, tweeking my training blah blah blah. Il probably start Sunday.Gains awaiting
I believe they’re sublingual tabs. You should just be able to break the tab in between your teeth and let it dissolve under your tongue.Soooo..... The bttl says the tablets are watermelon flavor??? Are they chewable lol
Ya watermelons lol and they’re sublingual as mentioned above! Sometimes I get annoyed and swallow what’s left of it because it takes so long.Soooo..... The bttl says the tablets are watermelon flavor??? Are they chewable lol
Yeah they’re methylated so down the hatch should work just as well.Ya watermelons lol and they’re sublingual as mentioned above! Sometimes I get annoyed and swallow what’s left of it because it takes so long.
So I can't figure it out. When I get to a computer I will start a log.I think top right it’s "ask a question"! Not sure though but try it out
Not my normal workout tho. I do 2 to 3 body parts per workout and hit every muscle 2 to 3 times a week lately. Results been good so I'm sticking with that. Just wanted to get a strength idea cus I havnt been writing everything down but will start tracking workouts and food Sunday. Tomorrow I'm gonna eat whatever i want all day. I got some Oreos and zebra cakes I need out the house so I don't pick at them all weekSounds like a killer full body session!
Not pleasant. And it definitely don't taste like watermelonsI have the same burning feeling with m1A atm
Jeeez, is it a sublingual? I don’t know this oral surgeon other than I thought it was the same as SDMZ 3.0.Not pleasant. And it definitely don't taste like watermelons
Idk man, maybe cus i did it like 5 min after waking up it seemed worse but I'm not looking forward to that everyday. It takes a food 15min to dissolve too. I had to chew it a little to speed up the processIt’s not that bad. But you get a little burning effect cause you can feel the chemicals dissolving I guess. Not fun either though
If that's the case do you even need to chew it?Just chew and swallow immediately - ITS METHYLATED! You don’t need to use sublingual, it’s gonna work regardless.
Doubt it’ll change absorption much, if at all. The only reason I’ve always chewed em up and tried to let them dissolve is I’m hoping that would put it straight in the bloodstream. Which, in theory, it would do. Not going down the digestive tract could, maybe, decrease liver strain. That said, I have no idea how well any of those absorb in the mouth, and I’m sure I end up swallowing a good portion anyway.If that's the case do you even need to chew it?
Took it again today, woke up and had a shake and my fishoils, bit the tab and packed it in my lip like a dip. Shook up a watermelon flavored pre workout and once the tabs started burning I swished some pre workout and swollowed it. Not as bad. I think I'm gonna just chew and swollow from here on out.Doubt it’ll change absorption much, if at all. The only reason I’ve always chewed em up and tried to let them dissolve is I’m hoping that would put it straight in the bloodstream. Which, in theory, it would do. Not going down the digestive tract could, maybe, decrease liver strain. That said, I have no idea how well any of those absorb in the mouth, and I’m sure I end up swallowing a good portion anyway.
Also, I think it’s been mentioned, but they don’t taste at all like watermelon. Dissolve slow too. Kinda rough, honestly. I’d recommend having something close by to wash it down.
No just depends on how soon you want it in the blood.If that's the case do you even need to chew it?
That would work actually, but you gotta consider the food stuffs and coloring etc you’re putting down the pipes as well - that’s really only a good option with pure raws.I was thinking I might crush it up into some pre workout lines
I was joking but I did figure if it could be absorbed that way. It feels bad enough in the mouth. I couldn't imagine what snorting it would feel likeNo just depends on how soon you want it in the blood.
Chewing/swallowing is a great way to adjust delivery timing for things like ephedrine, caffeine, viagra. If you want it ASAP, chew it. Pro tip: no drug is going to taste good chewed
That would work actually, but you gotta consider the food stuffs and coloring etc you’re putting down the pipes as well - that’s really only a good option with pure raws.
Medfit Mtren nasal always seemed to mess with my sinuses and that’s a true spray preparation even with menthol and such.
It would be weirder if you didn’t have them but hair everywhere else lolSorry for the hairy nipples
Nothing for traps, shoulders is usually a seated shoulder press and side db raise 2x a week after another body part. I used to do a lot of clean and presses when I was younger.I forget to shave sometimes. It happens.
What do you do for shoulders and traps?
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