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Unanswered Mk677 in short cycles

You might get hungry, bloated and some pump in the gym. The feeling is great but you won't notice and sustainable gains in that time. Your body can look more fuller giving you a better look temporarily.
 
Hcicis777 said:
What you can suggest to stack with or better just stick it in pct for 4 weeks?
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You can run it through cycle and pct, it does help keep gains more than "give gains". As a product to spare muscle from getting wasted i think at least for me its been great
 
Anabaholic said:
I'm curious too. I'm about a week in at 10mg a day and my sleep is the same, no vivid dreams, no weight gain, no extra hunger, I almost wonder if I got bunch stuff.
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Um.. I start gettinga little bloated on day 1 and then it goes away, but from then on its 24/7 pump in the hands and feet.
 
Bummer, it sounds like I got bunk, I bought kind of a lot too. I guess I'll keep taking it and see where things go.
 
Im just gonna answer a few messages without quoting. It kicks in very fast and 10mg is a low dosage, for me 20-30 is where i feel the effects. 10 will still be effective but not as much with changing physique but to keep the physique
 
Chados said:
Im just gonna answer a few messages without quoting. It kicks in very fast and 10mg is a low dosage, for me 20-30 is where i feel the effects. 10 will still be effective but not as much with changing physique but to keep the physique
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Actually I tried 20 last night and had some very vivid dreams and today I've been not exactly "hungry" but I've eaten a lot more than usual and don't feel full. Could be coincidence though
 
Chados said:
Im just gonna answer a few messages without quoting. It kicks in very fast and 10mg is a low dosage, for me 20-30 is where i feel the effects. 10 will still be effective but not as much with changing physique but to keep the physique
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Wouldnt 2 10mg doses be better than 1 due to the 4 to 6 hour half life?
 
U should feel it instantly, I feel like a tired kind of feeling, Idk how to describe it but I can feel the GH pulses.. and instantly more water helt the day after, and stronger
 
ValiantThor08 said:
Wouldnt 2 10mg doses be better than 1 due to the 4 to 6 hour half life?
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I think it has 24 hour half life. The only thing is the "peak" which could in theory be beneficial during specific times but i wouldn't worry about timing. If you get hungry take it at night etc.
 
Anabaholic said:
Actually I tried 20 last night and had some very vivid dreams and today I've been not exactly "hungry" but I've eaten a lot more than usual and don't feel full. Could be coincidence though
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Sounds like it could be legit then
 
ValiantThor08 said:
So I might not see any water gain from MK if I have a ketogenic base?
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I know you do that and i did low carb and i didnt notice much of that, i did medium carb and i gained 3 lbs or so and got fuller. As carbs will bind water youd decrease it and probably eliminate it with keto
 
Chados said:
I know you do that and i did low carb and i didnt notice much of that, i did medium carb and i gained 3 lbs or so and got fuller. As carbs will bind water youd decrease it and probably eliminate it with keto
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You think it would necessarily be more pro anabolic to up the carbs. Or is it more temporal aesthetic rather than function enhancement?
 
ValiantThor08 said:
You think it would necessarily be more pro anabolic to up the carbs. Or is it more temporal aesthetic rather than function enhancement?
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People nowadays grow up with the mentality that we need to eat a ton of rice but arnold didnt. The difference is better gear, insuline and gh. You can now look bigger than ever but in my opinion carbs are overrated but shouldn't be ignored.

A ketodiet is good but you do want carbs to be more anabolic, you don't need 600 gr of carbs. Carbs will make you fuller and fat will decrease water making you more dry. Have some carbload day or a little carbs during workout and i think youd be happy. Will you look fuller with more carbs? For sure but your abs will probably be less noticible
 
Chados said:
People nowadays grow up with the mentality that we need to eat a ton of rice but arnold didnt. The difference is better gear, insuline and gh. You can now look bigger than ever but in my opinion carbs are overrated but shouldn't be ignored.

A ketodiet is good but you do want carbs to be more anabolic, you don't need 600 gr of carbs. Carbs will make you fuller and fat will decrease water making you more dry. Have some carbload day or a little carbs during workout and i think youd be happy. Will you look fuller with more carbs? For sure but your abs will probably be less noticible
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Arnold also only ate 250g of protein per day, too.

His diet would be considered both “low calorie” and “impossible to get big on” by today’s “standards”
 
I decided what to do with mk677 I put thru cycle and pct for 40 days cycle + 40 days pct 5 on 2 da off 25mg is that sounds ok?
 
Chados said:
You might get hungry, bloated and some pump in the gym. The feeling is great but you won't notice and sustainable gains in that time. Your body can look more fuller giving you a better look temporarily.
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would adding it to a 10-12 week steroid cycle be enough time? I have heard everything from if you cant afford to take it a year then dont, or if you cant 6 months then dont. Then a couple people say as long as you can afford 12 weeks you get benefits?
 
jtbull said:
would adding it to a 10-12 week steroid cycle be enough time? I have heard everything from if you cant afford to take it a year then dont, or if you cant 6 months then dont. Then a couple people say as long as you can afford 12 weeks you get benefits?
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Sure it would, your gh still goes high it just won't get "as" high. Id run it during cycle and pct and probably a month more as i believe a body will need time to adapt to the new weight, the cortisol will go up and it can really help increase but mostly help maintain muscle and not add fat.
 
jtbull said:
would adding it to a 10-12 week steroid cycle be enough time? I have heard everything from if you cant afford to take it a year then dont, or if you cant 6 months then dont. Then a couple people say as long as you can afford 12 weeks you get benefits?
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You can take it one day and get benefits. You literally feel the GH pulses. The water retention is instant. Take it for however long you want
 
jtbull said:
would adding it to a 10-12 week steroid cycle be enough time? I have heard everything from if you cant afford to take it a year then dont, or if you cant 6 months then dont. Then a couple people say as long as you can afford 12 weeks you get benefits?
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Yes you will have benefits, if you can run it through cycle and pct that's the best, if not, run it during pct and for a month or more afterwards
 
TheSuppGuy said:
You can take it one day and get benefits. You literally feel the GH pulses. The water retention is instant. Take it for however long you want
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I hear about water weight with mk677, but that it works like gh iu. If that is that case i dont get how you get leaner on it if you get a bunch of water weight? Also very hypothetical, but it seems if am running say 600 mg a week of test and 500 of deca or eq that adding mk677 each month is just about what an extra 200mg per week of ttest would cost. Would it be better to take the extra test in that case?
 
jtbull said:
I hear about water weight with mk677, but that it works like gh iu. If that is that case i dont get how you get leaner on it if you get a bunch of water weight? Also very hypothetical, but it seems if am running say 600 mg a week of test and 500 of deca or eq that adding mk677 each month is just about what an extra 200mg per week of ttest would cost. Would it be better to take the extra test in that case?
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When your carb intake is low, or basically when you go into a deficit, you don't get much water retention. But I guess it's still more than if you didn't take it at all. I hate my bloated face on MK. But I instantly feel the weights get lighter and the pumps insane
 
jtbull said:
I hear about water weight with mk677, but that it works like gh iu. If that is that case i dont get how you get leaner on it if you get a bunch of water weight? Also very hypothetical, but it seems if am running say 600 mg a week of test and 500 of deca or eq that adding mk677 each month is just about what an extra 200mg per week of ttest would cost. Would it be better to take the extra test in that case?
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The water is normally temporarily and yes both mk and carbs will hold water but thats when you can go low carb and drink a lot of water.

200mg of extra test will likely give you more bloat than the mk.


200mg test trumps mk but during a cycle you can only put on so much muscle and im not confident saying adding 200mg more to an already powerful cycle would be more beneficial. You got many benefits with mk that makes the cycle better and you shouldnt see mk as a muscle builder by itself.

The best thing is that when you start having cortisol problems, muscle waste and fat increase after the cycle and you come off steroids the mk will preserve muscle and make it harder to add fat.
 
Chados said:
The water is normally temporarily and yes both mk and carbs will hold water but thats when you can go low carb and drink a lot of water.

200mg of extra test will likely give you more bloat than the mk.


200mg test trumps mk but during a cycle you can only put on so much muscle and im not confident saying adding 200mg more to an already powerful cycle would be more beneficial. You got many benefits with mk that makes the cycle better and you shouldnt see mk as a muscle builder by itself.

The best thing is that when you start having cortisol problems, muscle waste and fat increase after the cycle and you come off steroids the mk will preserve muscle and make it harder to add fat.
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Can you explain the last paragraph a little more? Thanks I appriciate the good info
 
TheSuppGuy said:
Can you explain the last paragraph a little more? Thanks I appriciate the good info
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Mk isnt a superb muscle builder lets make that clear. It could take months to a year for it to reallt work in those regards and say you add 5lbs extra a year, (not close to aas).

Adding gh to a cycle will improve the cycle just like a better diet would. Optimal would be to add during the cycle, maybe not the whole cycle but the last 2-3 weeks +pct and after pct for a month or two while body is recovering.

If money is a problem run it through pct and after and not during cycle as the aas will be strong enough to make the difference. Now when you come off steroids your body will become catabolic, youll have to manage diet, maybe youd lose muscle and weight, your body will add more fat than it would before cycle.

Most people will have to learn how to deal with this problem by having some cycles behind them but mk is something that will make it harder to gain fat, itll keep you pumped as you lose that from the cycle, improve recovery which will not directly build muscle but recovery will make your body grow better. Its an amazing compound but not a miracle pill and diet still has to be good but you can get away with eating some goodies (not recommended) but you can if diet is good in general.
 
Chados said:
Mk isnt a superb muscle builder lets make that clear. It could take months to a year for it to reallt work in those regards and say you add 5lbs extra a year, (not close to aas).

Adding gh to a cycle will improve the cycle just like a better diet would. Optimal would be to add during the cycle, maybe not the whole cycle but the last 2-3 weeks +pct and after pct for a month or two while body is recovering.

If money is a problem run it through pct and after and not during cycle as the aas will be strong enough to make the difference. Now when you come off steroids your body will become catabolic, youll have to manage diet, maybe youd lose muscle and weight, your body will add more fat than it would before cycle.

Most people will have to learn how to deal with this problem by having some cycles behind them but mk is something that will make it harder to gain fat, itll keep you pumped as you lose that from the cycle, improve recovery which will not directly build muscle but recovery will make your body grow better. Its an amazing compound but not a miracle pill and diet still has to be good but you can get away with eating some goodies (not recommended) but you can if diet is good in general.
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Sounds like it might just be a good pct regimen. I am on trt so i dont go off, but like now I take 300mg extra and my trt of 150 week for 450. When i go off and cruise it will be 150mgs a week. I am hoping i dont see a or much loss in gains during the 8-10 weeks i am off.

HOw about this for a next cycle
1-12 600 mg test per week plus trt
1-10 500 mg eq
10-22 Mk 25-30mg As you se i would be using it mostly during my cruise as i dont think when my doc runs bloods this will raise test levels....... Does injectable GH cause less water retention? If not its cheaper to take the mk i think I might run dboll for the first 4 weeks as i have 100 10mg pills. would i get any benefit if i take 20mg a day to take it longer or is that a waste?
 
jtbull said:
Sounds like it might just be a good pct regimen. I am on trt so i dont go off, but like now I take 300mg extra and my trt of 150 week for 450. When i go off and cruise it will be 150mgs a week. I am hoping i dont see a or much loss in gains during the 8-10 weeks i am off.

HOw about this for a next cycle
1-12 600 mg test per week plus trt
1-10 500 mg eq
10-22 Mk 25-30mg As you se i would be using it mostly during my cruise as i dont think when my doc runs bloods this will raise test levels....... Does injectable GH cause less water retention? If not its cheaper to take the mk i think I might run dboll for the first 4 weeks as i have 100 10mg pills. would i get any benefit if i take 20mg a day to take it longer or is that a waste?
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Nah injectible is the same they just work different ways raising gh but what makes a difference is the dosage and injectible you can use a higher amount but with mk you can only increase gh by say 70%.

Sorry you mean if dbol will make a difference? Of course, and same with mk but id be careful with the eq as blood can get thicker even at low dosages, else from that eq is really safe compared to many others.
 
If anyone was curious, I'm more or less positive my mk-677 is bunk, no weight gain, and no change in fasting glucose. It's a reputable brand that recently stopped producing, but I picked it up at a local store who said it was the last of their stock on it, anyway . . . I guess there's more knock offs out there than I would have imagined. Lesson learned, I'll stick to sponsors.
 
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