Finally. THE BLR PRE WORKOUT THREAD. New product leaks
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Ricky10
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Cool! I wonder who/where the others are..
Afi140
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Not me. Smh lol
The Solution
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Same
Ricky10
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Ha, well unfortunately...my gym closed early for the holiday weekend. No workout today 
I work all day tomorrow and Monday, (and my gym is closed for the holiday weekend-university gym) so I can’t use this until Tuesday...
Hopefully somebody else who received a sample pops up in the meantime!
I work all day tomorrow and Monday, (and my gym is closed for the holiday weekend-university gym) so I can’t use this until Tuesday...
Hopefully somebody else who received a sample pops up in the meantime!
jtmass
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WTH! I thought this post would be your experience with the PREHa, well unfortunately...my gym closed early for the holiday weekend. No workout today
I work all day tomorrow and Monday, (and my gym is closed for the holiday weekend-university gym) so I can’t use this until Tuesday...
Hopefully somebody else who received a sample pops up in the meantime!
brundel
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I only had a few of these samples. They are also missing an ingredient but work very well. Interested to see how it works with higher stims. As you guys know not all vasodilators work the same and ours are specifically used to be able to withstand some stims. In addition there is glycergrow and 2.5g betain.
Already noticing clumping from the osmolytes. I would rather it clump a bit and be super effective than make it less effective but non clumping.
Im waiting on some flavored, full ingredient samples and Ill send some of those out as well before launch.
For now we are just waiting on the raws to land at the manufacturer. Still looking at JUNE launch.
Already noticing clumping from the osmolytes. I would rather it clump a bit and be super effective than make it less effective but non clumping.
Im waiting on some flavored, full ingredient samples and Ill send some of those out as well before launch.
For now we are just waiting on the raws to land at the manufacturer. Still looking at JUNE launch.
Ricky10
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I know, I am not a fan when life gets in the way either!
Oh, you already informed me about the lack of flavor system. I will just mix it with some amino powder and down it quickly...not worried at all about that! I’m not all that picky about what I put in my mouth - well, you know what I mean.
Ricky10
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OK, so today was the big day!
I showed some self-restraint, and took my sample along with 1 capsule of this mild stimulant. I also chose it because it is not a proprietary blend, so I would know exactly how much caffeine I was adding.
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Anyway, I mixed my sample in 32oz of water that was flavored with some BCAA powder, a bit of lemonade crystal light, and 4 mg taurine. It mixed quite well and there was only a bit of sediment that was easily redispersed with a shake or two. I didn’t taste anything revolting at all...it just tasted like the crystal light and BCAA. I took this down about 30 minutes before hitting the gym, and I felt plenty of what I would describe as a natural feeling energy. Preworkout pumps were hitting me, and I actually got a few cramps in my foot and in one hand.
Upon entering the gym, I definitely felt ready to go and things more or less felt on par to how I am used to feeling in terms of focus, pump etc. Again, energy was possibly slightly better though because of how clean it felt. Zero side effects were noted at any time..
I carried on with a full body workout (not uncommon for me), and I would be lying if I said that I noticed anything all that different from current leading PWOs in terms of pumps, strength, vascularity, endurance etc. Also, I did end up taking another somewhat mild stimulant mid workout for a little boost (also not uncommon for me).
While nothing out of this world occurred for me during this experience, it certainly did perform as a PWO in all aspects, and I will definitely buy it when it’s available. It’s the kind of product I remain very interested in transitioning to. Let’s face it, it’s difficult to go from exotic ultra stim products to even moderate stim products. I would really be in trouble taking a stim-free PWO! I think people with low stim requirements (the cup of coffee people) will likely be more than impressed from day one.
Also, this sample is missing a final ingredient, and I think the formula is supposed to have cumulative benefits. It’s actually kind of difficult to judge any product based on 1 experience. Some of my favorite products weren’t always over the top impressive from the first try.
Bottome line, it definitely works and I feel lucky that I was given the opportunity to take part in this!
I showed some self-restraint, and took my sample along with 1 capsule of this mild stimulant. I also chose it because it is not a proprietary blend, so I would know exactly how much caffeine I was adding.
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Anyway, I mixed my sample in 32oz of water that was flavored with some BCAA powder, a bit of lemonade crystal light, and 4 mg taurine. It mixed quite well and there was only a bit of sediment that was easily redispersed with a shake or two. I didn’t taste anything revolting at all...it just tasted like the crystal light and BCAA. I took this down about 30 minutes before hitting the gym, and I felt plenty of what I would describe as a natural feeling energy. Preworkout pumps were hitting me, and I actually got a few cramps in my foot and in one hand.
Upon entering the gym, I definitely felt ready to go and things more or less felt on par to how I am used to feeling in terms of focus, pump etc. Again, energy was possibly slightly better though because of how clean it felt. Zero side effects were noted at any time..
I carried on with a full body workout (not uncommon for me), and I would be lying if I said that I noticed anything all that different from current leading PWOs in terms of pumps, strength, vascularity, endurance etc. Also, I did end up taking another somewhat mild stimulant mid workout for a little boost (also not uncommon for me).
While nothing out of this world occurred for me during this experience, it certainly did perform as a PWO in all aspects, and I will definitely buy it when it’s available. It’s the kind of product I remain very interested in transitioning to. Let’s face it, it’s difficult to go from exotic ultra stim products to even moderate stim products. I would really be in trouble taking a stim-free PWO! I think people with low stim requirements (the cup of coffee people) will likely be more than impressed from day one.
Also, this sample is missing a final ingredient, and I think the formula is supposed to have cumulative benefits. It’s actually kind of difficult to judge any product based on 1 experience. Some of my favorite products weren’t always over the top impressive from the first try.
Bottome line, it definitely works and I feel lucky that I was given the opportunity to take part in this!
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kisaj
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Curious what is drawing you to this if you added a variable with another stim and you state that you didn't notice anything different than any other PWO? In general, PWOs all provide a pump and a stim, with the better ones helping with endurance and no crash. So how can we measure how one is better than the other? Just having a hard time understanding what novel ingredient could be added in to make something stand out.
Ricky10
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I hear ya...
The other stim added was actually an attempt to minimize variables on my part, since I am so used to consuming considerably more stim than what is already in the formula. Most PWOs are high stim along with performance/pump ingredients. This product is low stim with performance/pump (and whatever else) ingredients. My goal today was to level the playing field a bit to gain a sense of how the non-stimulant ingredients performed...which was not disappointing.
I remain interested in the product as opposed to my current and past choices because I would ultimately like to transition to a healthier alternative. I also typically have great experiences with BLR products, so I do believe this will have some novel benefits. Even if they weren’t overtly apparent from day 1.
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Ricky10
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To be fair, I am just 1 reviewer that only had 1 sample. We can’t draw too many conclusions based on that. I still know that I will be buying it, so that should say something. I definitely had a strong workout..it’s not like I was going through it wishing I had added 2 scoops of High Volume to the mix. Is this better than other low stim or no-stim options? I guess only time will tell, and hopefully we will soon get to hear some reports from other people who got the sample packets as well. We likely need more feedback from a variety of people who have different PWO supplement rituals..
Yes, I have tried some of the healthier preworkouts out there that stay away from the exotic stims etc, and a few of them certainly aren’t too bad. This particular product though is something many people have had high hopes for, and I still have an open mind for its potential. Once I go through a full tub of the finalized product and hopefully get used to working out with lower stims, I am optimistic that it would be a rewarding transition.
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aaronuconn
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Unrelated, but I like the profile of the “mild stimulant”. Looks perfect to me for work settings or when you need a small boost without being overstimulated
TheMovement
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I can say the comparison to whats on the market doesn't really do it justice. Its indeed on its own in several areas.
brundel
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Unfortunately adding 250mg stims in the beginning and again mid workout will for sure negate any possible benefits of vasodilators. This is the point of not having 700mg stims.
For sure will make a difference when testing a LOW STIM pre.
I dont care what you add to the mix the stims will overpower it. May as well just be stims. For someone taking this high of a stimulant volume you should probably not be taking a normal pre workout product. Its a waste of your money. Just buy some cheap stims in bulk and mix em up yourself. Itll be 5x less expensive.
We will have some flavored samples soon
Will likely let the public decide on best flavor.
For sure will make a difference when testing a LOW STIM pre.
I dont care what you add to the mix the stims will overpower it. May as well just be stims. For someone taking this high of a stimulant volume you should probably not be taking a normal pre workout product. Its a waste of your money. Just buy some cheap stims in bulk and mix em up yourself. Itll be 5x less expensive.
We will have some flavored samples soon
Will likely let the public decide on best flavor.
ValiantThor08
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Open to try and provide opinion on flavor and profileUnfortunately adding 250mg stims in the beginning and again mid workout will for sure negate any possible benefits of vasodilators. This is the point of not having 700mg stims.
For sure will make a difference when testing a LOW STIM pre.
I dont care what you add to the mix the stims will overpower it. May as well just be stims. For someone taking this high of a stimulant volume you should probably not be taking a normal pre workout product. Its a waste of your money. Just buy some cheap stims in bulk and mix em up yourself. Itll be 5x less expensive.
We will have some flavored samples soon
Will likely let the public decide on best flavor.
mechka_grizli
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brundel
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Gonna try to have 3 flavors to test drive within a week or so. In fact for everyone reading this. Please list the flavors you find most appealing.Open to try and provide opinion on flavor and profile
I love the gummy bear flavor and blood orange flavor.
TheMovement
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I for one cant wait for this to drop already! Hell can I preorder a tub!
TheMovement
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Lemon drop/zinger/lemonade for sure, Green apple, and I know its a long shot but I would love a refreshing lime flavor. Lets get summer going strong!
soxbsbll05
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Dymatize makes a Cherry Watermelon flavor for their pre and it is the best tasting pre I've ever had.
ValiantThor08
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Never tried a gummy bear flavor, it sounds good. And so does blood orange.
The Solution
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Cherry Limeade // Apple Limeade
Blood Orange // Orange Creamsicle
Rainbow Candy // Sour Patch Kids // Smarties
Blood Orange // Orange Creamsicle
Rainbow Candy // Sour Patch Kids // Smarties
determination
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Gummy bear and blood orange sound good. I always like mango. Orange creamsicle is might be good too
Would 150 mg of caffeine affect this pre negatively? I don't like heavy stims, but I like a little bit.
Would 150 mg of caffeine affect this pre negatively? I don't like heavy stims, but I like a little bit.
Ricky10
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Let’s make something clear here. Just because unicorns didn’t fly out of my buttocks during the 1 workout that I got to sample this product doesn’t mean that I didn’t feel that the product was something worth while. Yes, I added some stims - still less and milder than usual - yet I still had a very productive feel good workout by all means. To me, that is a positive sign that something in this formula was providing me with a more natural source of energy and stamina..
I get the sense that my review was perceived in a more negative light than I intended to portray, which I feel is unfortunate. I will say that workout ended up being the best one of that week. Is it because of this product or other factors? I can’t really be sure yet...and I honestly thought more people were going to be receiving some of these first batch samples.
I just hope everyone remains as excited as they were for the release of this product from the beginning, as there is no reason not to be..
I get the sense that my review was perceived in a more negative light than I intended to portray, which I feel is unfortunate. I will say that workout ended up being the best one of that week. Is it because of this product or other factors? I can’t really be sure yet...and I honestly thought more people were going to be receiving some of these first batch samples.
I just hope everyone remains as excited as they were for the release of this product from the beginning, as there is no reason not to be..
jtmass
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I was expecting you to take the PRE standalone and not add stims to it.
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Bingo Adding stims will skew the result of what he is actually trying to review.
That is the biggest issue I have with loggers on here. They throw in multiple variables or other supplements and try to give feedback on one item. Just run what you are reviewing solo, update with your progress and exclude any external factors which can change feedback.
jtmass
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Should have sent one to you. As an experienced reviewer, it would have been great to get some feedback. Will just have to wait for others who received the sample.
jtmass
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Grape!
Ricky10
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Not quite sure what gave you that impression from my post #151 which was quite clear on what my approach was going to be.
What u don’t know is that through PM, I asked brundel if he would prefer that I add zero stims to it and take as is. I was up for either way. Next thing I know, brundel stated that he was “interested to see how it was going to work with higher stims” in post #159. That lead to me thinking that he was into my plan, and I never heard otherwise.
Everyone had plenty of opportunity to request that I add no stims to it. It’s not like I wasn’t being more than open about what was going on here. The product will be out soon enough so everyone will be able to try it out and none of this is really going to matter. Seems people continue to miss the point that it still worked out to be positive experience for me.
jtmass
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Not quite sure what gave you that impression from my post #151 which was quite clear on what my approach was going to be.
What u don’t know is that through PM, I asked brundel if he would prefer that I add zero stims to it and take as is. I was up for either way. Next thing I know, brundel stated that he was “interested to see how it was going to work with higher stims” in post #159. That lead to me thinking that he was into my plan, and I never heard otherwise.
Everyone had plenty of opportunity to request that I add no stims to it. It’s not like I wasn’t being more than open about what was going on here. The product will be out soon enough so everyone will be able to try it out and none of this is really going to matter. Seems people continue to miss the point that it still worked out to be positive experience for me.
Honestly.. I didn't know what your approach was. When you say "I suspect I will add stims", to me, it means you're not sure that you will add stims to it. To assess the benefits of mystery ingredients, the formula should have been used the way it was designed to be used. So, the entire statement was confusing. Anyway, hopefully other reviewers will come up soon and use it standalone.
Jeremyk1
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Honestly, I do feel that his review is still valid. By adding caffeine to keep it more in line with what he’s used to, he actually limited variables in a way. If he took it solo and got good pumps, is that because the product delivers pumps, or because he took a lower amount of vasoconstrictors?
Ricky10
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Someone who gets it....right here ^^
It’s almost like you actually thoroughly read my posts too!
jtmass
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I wasn't saying his review is invalid. But, simply stating my expectation. It's a preworkout afterall.. People use it differently all the time. Also, with your statement above, it should mean that a lot of heavy non-stim Preworkouts should give massive pumps. but, that's never the case as well. I have tried many of the heavy duty non-stims and didn't get anything extra ordinary. So, having less or no vasoconstrictors, doesn't really equate to greater pumps.