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Unanswered Shilajit - best natural substance for testosterone?

TheSuppGuy

TheSuppGuy

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Have anyone experiance with this? Everything I have read indicates this is like a "miracle" product? That it is supposed to give you increases of like 20%.

I believe alot of Indian cultures have used this since way back and it is known as a strengthening and energizing substance.

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if we are talking indian stuff i might be in favor of the KSM-66 extract
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aaronuconn said:
Ferodrox. Search Ferodrox Lean Mass Accrual and the write up I did on it should pop up

...but no, this is a natural OTC supplement. Not comparable to steroids
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Found it.

Kaged Muscle Ferodrox - Underrated Lean Body Mass Accrual Agent
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My plan for my upcoming PCT is to use Black Magic Super Natty.

Fadogia, PrimaVie, and some other big players. I am also curious about the Byroviron..

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We include it in CEL MTEST because the data certainly is very promising.
 
Ricky10 said:
My plan for my upcoming PCT is to use Black Magic Super Natty.

Fadogia, PrimaVie, and some other big players. I am also curious about the Byroviron..

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The Byroviron looks promising

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Increase in body weight as well as weight of testis, prostate, seminal vesicle, and epididymis was noticed. Transverse sections of testis exhibited increased spermatogenesis and a significant increase in sperm count in epididymis. The fructose content of seminal vesicle was also increased. The extract treatment also brought a significant increase in serum testosterone and luteinizing hormone levels. The studies clearly reflect androgenic activity of the extract and its effects on hypothalamic pituitary gonadal axis.

So it raised T and LH levels and increased the size of sex organs.
 
stimtron said:
The Byroviron looks promising

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Sure does.

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What’s throwing me off is the LH doesn’t seem to go up a huge amount, maybe 20-30 percent, but the testosterone skyrockets! I’d be interested in finding out its mechanism(s) of action.
 
stimtron said:
Go with whatever human studies show increases levels the highest then sups based on animal studies. This way you are insured to get good results.
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But it’s relevant to note that increasing testosterone levels within normal ranges (ie, not supraphysiological) will not lead to increased lean body mass.

That’s why I opt for ingredients that have been shown to increase lean body mass specifically (such as KSM-66, LJ100). These two have also been shown to increase testosterone levels as well, but the lean body
mass increases most likely aren’t due to the increase in testosterone levels.
 
aaronuconn said:
But it’s relevant to note that increasing testosterone levels within normal ranges (ie, not supraphysiological) will not lead to increased lean body mass.

That’s why I opt for ingredients that have been shown to increase lean body mass specifically (such as KSM-66, LJ100). These two have also been shown to increase testosterone levels as well, but the lean body
mass increases most likely aren’t due to the increase in testosterone levels.
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Well no that's why 1-Andro is the best option. 330 mg daily was just as effective as 300 mg of T weekly. No herb compares to that so far in studies.

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stimtron said:
Well no that's why 1-Andro is the best option. 330 mg daily was just as effective as 300 mg of T weekly. No herb compares to that so far in studies.

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I don’t understand your post. 1-Andro and herbs aren’t comparable
 
stimtron said:
OP questions was = Shilajit - best natural substance for testosterone?

1-Andro would be the best. He wasn't asking which herb is the best. Everyone should know their options.
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I could take AAS and get a solid PCT and do everything right but it's a risk and I already have super high test and GH levels, and am only 21, never touched any AAS. I don't want some gains in return of maybe not getting those natural productions back to where they were... I hope you understand what I mean.

Like I could do a cycle, do a PCT, but I highly doubt I would get back to where I am. And if that would be the case, I could just do cycles after cycles and get bigger and bigger. Eventually I would need TRT, or just have to stick with the lower test levels. And as the body constantly adapts and strives for homoestasis, the lower test levels would eventually make me end up with gains, worse than currently. Like my hormones now are at a very high and I don't want to change that for some "temporary" gains. I already bench like 315 for 2-3 reps at this age, at a bodyweight of 180 or less. Fairly lean too!
 
stimtron said:
OP questions was = Shilajit - best natural substance for testosterone?

1-Andro would be the best. He wasn't asking which herb is the best. Everyone should know their options.
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Not so sure 1 andro is considered natural in the sense the op is talking
 
I really enjoyed the Black Magic Natty product. Amazing increase in libido. Maybe moreso than Diesel Test Hardcore. It def gave me better erections. Hard to tell if I got much else (gains) from it tho. DPS had twinpacks last I checked.
 
Danksta710 said:
I really enjoyed the Black Magic Natty product. Amazing increase in libido. Maybe moreso than Diesel Test Hardcore. It def gave me better erections. Hard to tell if I got much else (gains) from it tho. DPS had twinpacks last I checked.
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I wonder what that is attributed to the increase in libido, which ingredient specifically?
 
aaronuconn said:
But it’s relevant to note that increasing testosterone levels within normal ranges (ie, not supraphysiological) will not lead to increased lean body mass.

That’s why I opt for ingredients that have been shown to increase lean body mass specifically (such as KSM-66, LJ100). These two have also been shown to increase testosterone levels as well, but the lean body
mass increases most likely aren’t due to the increase in testosterone levels.
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Hi mate, how much was shown for lean body mass increase with LJ100?
 
AndroRage said:
I wonder what that is attributed to the increase in libido, which ingredient specifically?
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Every ingredient in Black Magic is beneficial- that’s the beauty of it! The Fadogia is likely the biggest player in the libido department, but the others are also big players. The proprietary blend is a bit disappointing but it works, and it works well so who cares!

I know you have been considering it for a while now....you just have to get it!

I will be getting more very soon. The twin pack available at the place @Danksta710 mentioned is the way to go, and makes it very reasonably priced.
 
Genuine Shilajit has a ton of benefits, which I'll be using. That said, most of the stuff on the market is bunk/bs, even from reputable suppliers.
 
Ricky10 said:
Every ingredient in Black Magic is beneficial- that’s the beauty of it! The Fadogia is likely the biggest player in the libido department, but the others are also big players. The proprietary blend is a bit disappointing but it works, and it works well so who cares!

I know you have been considering it for a while now....you just have to get it!

I will be getting more very soon. The twin pack available at the place @Danksta710 mentioned is the way to go, and makes it very reasonably priced.
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What are the main benefits you noticed from Black Magic ?
 
What was that one test booster that had this and took over the boards for a few years before M-Test.
I used to buy it all the time.
 
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