Donald Trump running for president

[DemntedCowboy]

It sounds nuts, but there is a lot of research in this. It's meant for people that don't respond to the usual meds and I hope it stays that way and doesn't go like opioids did.

I can agree to that. As long as docs just dont pescribe it to prescribe it. But, if you ever worked in the medical field you know how those reps can be

 

[DemntedCowboy]

I've only been here less than a year so far and like it, but it's a really weird mix of people and most of my views would probably be considered far right to them. There are a lot of people that just protest to protest.

When it happen to me I was stationed there from 05 - 08. We deployed in 07 - 08 and thats how they where acting outside of post in Tacoma.
Granted I had a great time when I got away from Post. I climbed Ranier 3 times. St. Helens once. And we mudded all over the place and dunebuggied at the sandunes in Oregon. So, I can't say it was all bad.

 

[Aleksandar37]

I can agree to that. As long as docs just dont pescribe it to prescribe it. But, if you ever worked in the medical field you know how those reps can be

Yep, I do and I do. Just normal anti-depressants were and still are given out too quickly.

 

[DemntedCowboy]

Yep, I do and I do. Just normal anti-depressants were and still are given out too quickly.

I deal with those d*mn reps every day. And try to avoid them if I know they are coming.

 

[ax1]

Another legitimate reason for hating Dump....appointing this unconstitutional police state anti-privacy scum dirt-bag “Swamp” goblins like this...
https://www.cnet.com/news/fbi-director-christopher-wray-tells-cybersecurity-experts-to-partner-with-feds/

 

[muscleupcrohn]

Where are you getting that from? lmao Race has nothing to do with Antifa. It stands for anti-fascist. It started in the 20s after Mussolini's government. They have always been there, but got more active in the US as a response to Trump. However, black bloc protesters (the people that wear masks and all black) who have always held violent protests have also infiltrated the group and that is who Trump and right wing people call out as Antifa.

The ones that wear the all black and physically attack people they deem fascist/Nazis and vandalize property are, as Hillary would say, deplorable, and if they haven’t already, any “other/actual/real/etc.” Antifa members/groups/organizations should publicly/officially denounce and disown these “infiltrators,” assuming any of them claim to be associated with Antifa.

 

[muscleupcrohn]

It's Seattle man. There are protests all the time, with May Day being the worst. I have no doubt there is Antifa here, but you also have the Proud Boys which are violent Trump supporters. Just because people are out protesting Trump though doesn't make them Antifa. They're also not against violence. I'm not a supporter, but when they call out these alt-right ****s who like to talk all tough, but then cry like a bitch when smacked, it does make me smile.

In all fairness, talking tough is not legally sufficient grounds for resorting to physical violence. I’m not saying some of them don’t deserve it, but the people resorting to violence probably don’t have legal justification, and there’s more than a little irony in assaulting people for expressing their freedom of speech while claiming to be anti-fascist.

 

[thebigt]

It's Seattle man. There are protests all the time, with May Day being the worst. I have no doubt there is Antifa here, but you also have the Proud Boys which are violent Trump supporters. Just because people are out protesting Trump though doesn't make them Antifa. They're also not against violence. I'm not a supporter, but when they call out these alt-right ****s who like to talk all tough, but then cry like a bitch when smacked, it does make me smile.

that works both ways...alt-left seem to be making more trouble than the alt-right these days if you haven't noticed-mainstreammedia seems to avoid reporting this...I might be seeing things the way I want too, but every mainstreammedia channel seems far left these days.

 

[thebigt]

I've only been here less than a year so far and like it, but it's a really weird mix of people and most of my views would probably be considered far right to them. There are a lot of people that just protest to protest.

open mindedness is considered right wing to those alt-left fools...anti-fascists, lol.

 

[Aleksandar37]

In all fairness, talking tough is not legally sufficient grounds for resorting to physical violence. I’m not saying some of them don’t deserve it, but the people resorting to violence probably don’t have legal justification, and there’s more than a little irony in assaulting people for expressing their freedom of speech while claiming to be anti-fascist.

Don't recall saying it was legal, just funny. Also, if you find it ironic, then you don't understand what irony or fascism means.

 

[Aleksandar37]

The ones that wear the all black and physically attack people they deem fascist/Nazis and vandalize property are, as Hillary would say, deplorable, and if they haven’t already, any “other/actual/real/etc.” Antifa members/groups/organizations should publicly/officially denounce and disown these “infiltrators,” assuming any of them claim to be associated with Antifa.

Yes, I'm sure they'll get right in line with every other group, nationality, race, and occupation that doesn't call out the troublemakers.

 

[Aleksandar37]

that works both ways...alt-left seem to be making more trouble than the alt-right these days if you haven't noticed-mainstreammedia seems to avoid reporting this...I might be seeing things the way I want too, but every mainstreammedia channel seems far left these days.

Examples are helpful. What are the "alt-left" doing that you're referring to?

 

[thebigt]

Examples are helpful. What are the "alt-left" doing that you're referring to?

harrassing trump people in restaurants...Maxine calling out left to harass trump supporters and tell them they are not welcome here...the kid wearing maga hat getting attacked..Berkley students rioting...seattle mobs...


there are plenty more....

 

[Aleksandar37]

harrassing trump people in restaurants...Maxine calling out left to harass trump supporters and tell them they are not welcome here...the kid wearing maga hat getting attacked..Berkley students rioting...seattle mobs...


there are plenty more....

Again, just because it's not pro-Trump doesn't mean it's automatically alt-left, or liberal, or Antifa. These words all mean things and generalizations don't really benefit anybody. How about if I say what about all those cops killing blacks, or what about all those white people being racist? The "alt-left" has it's fair share of ****heads, although I don't know of anybody that actually calls themselves alt-left as it began as a way to deflect attention from the alt-right. I would urge you to look more into exactly what the alt-right stands for before brushing them off. Start with Richard Spencer since that it typically where the modern alt-right begins.

As far as protests and marches go--regardless of message or side--I'm always in support of people practicing their constitutional rights.

 

[ax1]

harrassing trump people in restaurants...Maxine calling out left to harass trump supporters and tell them they are not welcome here...the kid wearing maga hat getting attacked..Berkley students rioting...seattle mobs...


there are plenty more....

Is Maxine a closet crack head?

 

[thebigt]

Is Maxine a closet crack head?

lol...that woman knows exactly what she is doing...could her enthusiasm be drug enhanced-maybe.

 

[muscleupcrohn]

Don't recall saying it was legal, just funny. Also, if you find it ironic, then you don't understand what irony or fascism means.

My point is that anyone forcibly silencing the opposition’s voices has no right to protest any regime or system that does the same thing. How pedantic do you have to be about definitions? I don’t see how physically assaulting people for saying things is funny, but hey, you’re entitled to your own interests and sense of humor.

 

[muscleupcrohn]

Yes, I'm sure they'll get right in line with every other group, nationality, race, and occupation that doesn't call out the troublemakers.

And they’re all equally wrong for not going so... saying that other people are bad also doesn’t excuse it. It perpetuates it. If your primary purpose is to fight something you think is wrong, you should try to be better than the people doing the thing you’re protesting.

 

[muscleupcrohn]

As far as protests and marches go--regardless of message or side--I'm always in support of people practicing their constitutional rights.

Yet you find it funny when people are physically assaulted for practicing their constitutional right to free speech?

 

[thebigt]

Again, just because it's not pro-Trump doesn't mean it's automatically alt-left, or liberal, or Antifa. These words all mean things and generalizations don't really benefit anybody. How about if I say what about all those cops killing blacks, or what about all those white people being racist? The "alt-left" has it's fair share of ****heads, although I don't know of anybody that actually calls themselves alt-left as it began as a way to deflect attention from the alt-right. I would urge you to look more into exactly what the alt-right stands for before brushing them off. Start with Richard Spencer since that it typically where the modern alt-right begins.

As far as protests and marches go--regardless of message or side--I'm always in support of people practicing their constitutional rights.

doesn't protests and marches fall under 'peaceful assembly'?

 

[Aleksandar37]

i need to see numbers on violent leftists versus violent alt-right...look at Charlottesville, it appeared that militant leftist outnumbered the alt right by a large number and it was a alt-right event.

as far as protests and marches go I don't have a issue until they interfere with my right to travel freely, and start vandalizing property....doesn't the constitution say something about peaceful assembly?

How many people died at that protest in Charlottesville and which side was the attacker on? How many people were injured at that protest and which side were the attackers on?

 

[Aleksandar37]

Yet you find it funny when people are physically assaulted for practicing their constitutional right to free speech?

Depends on the situation. Welcome back. You ever going to answer my question about putting words in my mouth?

 

[Aleksandar37]

doesn't protests and marches fall under 'peaceful assembly'?

When did I say they don't?

 

[ax1]

lol...that woman knows exactly what she is doing...could her enthusiasm be drug enhanced-maybe.

As far as Anti-fa goes, I personally believe these are primarily young manipulated youth by special interest groups (such as Soros and others) and possibly also the FBI and/or the CIA to fuel division domestically. Same crap from the 60s movements, almost nobody ever learns.

I remember seeing a documentary or segment on CiaNN of a particular Anti-fa and their proclamation was to use any means necessary to show up at protests and shut people up even if it means violence and chaos.

Last year I also remember posting the biography of the current leader or modern founder of anti-fa and her main inspiration in life was a wanted fugitive who was in the slammer for murdering a police officer. Doesnt mean she herself prays for murder but this is another example of simply being young and naive or just simply being dumb which is a disease that doesnt discriminate age, lol.

 

[ax1]

lol...that woman knows exactly what she is doing...could her enthusiasm be drug enhanced-maybe.

She is on that Hitler juice. Bet she gets shaky hand in 4 years.

 

[muscleupcrohn]

Depends on the situation. Welcome back. You ever going to answer my question about putting words in my mouth?

You said, and I’m paraphrasing, that you find it funny when alt-right people talk tough and are smacked. And you said this in a post talking about Antifa and violent protests. I’m not putting any words in your mouth. You said it “makes you smile” when “alt-right ****s who... talk all tough... cry like a bitch when smacked.”

How can that be construed as anything except you saying you enjoy it when alt-right protestors expressing their constitutional right to free speech are physically assaulted.

 

[thebigt]

How many people died at that protest in Charlottesville and which side was the attacker on? How many people were injured at that protest and which side were the attackers on?

It was stupid of me to bring up Charlottesville and I deleted post...in my youth there is a good chance I would have been among those protesting the alt-right'ers.

 

[thebigt]

She is on that Hitler juice. Bet she gets shaky hand in 4 years.

you mean like nancy pelossi?

 

[Aleksandar37]

As far as Anti-fa goes, I personally believe these are primarily young manipulated youth by special interest groups (such as Soros and others) and possibly also the FBI and/or the CIA to fuel division domestically. Same crap from the 60s movements, almost nobody ever learns.

I remember seeing a documentary or segment on CiaNN of a particular Anti-fa and their proclamation was to use any means necessary to show up at protests and shut people up even if it means violence and chaos.

Last year I also remember posting the biography of the current leader or modern founder of anti-fa and her main inspiration in life was a wanted fugitive who was in the slammer for murdering a police officer. Doesnt mean she herself prays for murder but this is another example of simply being young and naive or just simply being dumb which is a disease that doesnt discriminate age, lol.

Do you recall this leader's name? I don't think they have one. It's kind of a big mess of separate groups.

 

[Aleksandar37]

It was stupid of me to bring up Charlottesville and I deleted post...in my youth there is a good chance I would have been among those protesting the alt-right'ers.

I'm not defending either side as most times the extreme of anything is bad. I'm just saying if you're going to claim that left violence is more than right violence, where are the numbers? I'm asking because I honestly don't know myself. I do find it odd that some on the right like to characterize those on the left as ***** liberals, but then also warn about how dangerous they are depending on which one fits their story.

 

[muscleupcrohn]

Do you recall this leader's name? I don't think they have one. It's kind of a big mess of separate groups.

This seems to be true. A lot of small groups that identify with a certain group or ideology, but that’s about it. No real overarching structure it seems.

 

[Aleksandar37]

You said, and I’m paraphrasing, that you find it funny when alt-right people talk tough and are smacked. And you said this in a post talking about Antifa and violent protests. I’m not putting any words in your mouth. You said it “makes you smile” when “alt-right ****s who... talk all tough... cry like a bitch when smacked.”

How can that be construed as anything except you saying you enjoy it when alt-right protestors expressing their constitutional right to free speech are physically assaulted.

The constitution applies to the government. somebody can run their mouth all day, but that doesn't mean there won't be consequences from other citizens. Watching a piece of trash like Richard Spencer get punched in the face is funny to me. I didn't say it was morally good or even right, but it doesn't go against the Constitution or the laws of comedy.

As for putting words in my mouth, I'm talking about the last time you were posting in here, not now.

 

[thebigt]

I'm not defending either side as most times the extreme of anything is bad. I'm just saying if you're going to claim that left violence is more than right violence, where are the numbers? I'm asking because I honestly don't know myself. I do find it odd that some on the right like to characterize those on the left as ***** liberals, but then also warn about how dangerous they are depending on which one fits their story.

the numbers are in the youth...most guys my age aren't going to show up at protests or marches.

if someone puts something on facebook or other social media as a call to action my guess is it will be mostly youngsters showing up, and they seem to be predominately liberal.

I doubt you would see nearly as many showing up to defend someone being attacked for wearing a maga hat. and if people did show up to defend the maga hat wearer there is a very good chance 10x that number would show up to defend the attackers of the maga hat wearer.

 

[ax1]

Do you recall this leader's name? I don't think they have one. It's kind of a big mess of separate groups.

Im sorry, I was very wrong. I confused with the co-founder of BLM movment. I dunno, sometimes I cant tell the difference, lol.

My tinfoil wrapped finger tips posted this back in '16.

When I use Assata’s powerful demand in my organizing work, I always begin by sharing where it comes from, sharing about Assata’s significance to the Black Liberation Movement, what it’s political purpose and message is, and why it’s important in our context.

-Alicia Garza In 2013, Alicia co-founded #BlackLivesMatter

http://www.thefeministwire.com/2014/10/blacklivesmatter-2/

The main inspiring figure of the founder of Black Lives Matter's.

Assata Shakur aka Joanne Deborah Chesimard, a radical feminist and Marxist revolutionary. She escaped from prison in 1979 while serving a life sentence for the murder of New Jersey State Trooper Werner Foerster.

 

[muscleupcrohn]

The constitution applies to the government. somebody can run their mouth all day, but that doesn't mean there won't be consequences from other citizens. Watching a piece of trash like Richard Spencer get punched in the face is funny to me. I didn't say it was morally good or even right, but it doesn't go against the Constitution or the laws of comedy.

As for putting words in my mouth, I'm talking about the last time you were posting in here, not now.

I don’t recall the last time you’re talking about honestly. If I put words in your mouth, I’m sorry man. But truth be told, I’d rather not dig up old posts I don’t even remember; we go in circles enough as it is.

I’m probably going to take another long break from this thread, I don’t think it’s a productive use of my time haha.

 

[Aleksandar37]

the numbers are in the youth...most guys my age aren't going to show up at protests or marches.

if someone puts something on facebook or other social media as a call to action my guess is it will be mostly youngsters showing up, and they seem to be predominately liberal.

I doubt you would see nearly as many showing up to defend someone being attacked for wearing a maga hat. and if people did show up to defend the maga hat wearer there is a very good chance 10x that number would show up to defend the attackers of the maga hat wearer.

You'd be surprised by the age of some of these protesters and also the amount of right wing youth. There are a lot of alt-right, regular right, and conservative speakers with huge youtube and other social media followings.

 

[Aleksandar37]

Im sorry, I was very wrong. I confused with the co-founder of BLM movment. I dunno, sometimes I cant tell the difference, lol.

My tinfoil wrapped finger tips posted this back in '16.

You should get the full tinfoil suit on and read the medical testimony from Chesimard's trial.

 

[thebigt]

You'd be surprised by the age of some of these protesters and also the amount of right wing youth. There are a lot of alt-right, regular right, and conservative speakers with huge youtube and other social media followings.

those in the 14-24 age group make up 40% of arrests but account for 14% of the population.

 

[Aleksandar37]

those in the 14-24 age group make up 40% of arrests but account for 14% of the population.

Can't say I'm surprised. That age range is almost all morons who think they're invincible. The brain doesn't really finish developing until 14-16 and is partially responsible for high risk behavior.

 

[Aleksandar37]

Even though Obama was a fan of drone strikes, at least he used an executive order to be transparent about it and report how many civilian casualties there were. Trump just revoked that https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-revocation-reporting-requirement/

 

[ax1]

You should get the full tinfoil suit on and read the medical testimony from Chesimard's trial.

Thats interesting. I think they should make a movie about about her life and what happened. Those were some crazy times.

 

[Aleksandar37]

Thats interesting. I think they should make a movie about about her life and what happened. Those were some crazy times.

She certainly wasn't a saint, but that case has a whole lot of questions. I also didn't know she's been on the run for 40 years.

 

[thebigt]

dnc bars fox news from hosting democratic presidential primary debates....

be funny if trump said presidential debates will only be hosted by fox news.

 

[ax1]

dnc bars fox news from hosting democratic presidential primary debates....

be funny if trump said presidential debates will only be hosted by fox news.

And they all bar Libertarians or other 3rd/non party candidates.

Shyt is more rigged than boxing was in the 20s, lol

 

[ax1]

Its official, Pocahontas wants to destroy everything new, modern and good in life and move us back 30 years and keep us there.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/presidential-candidate-elizabeth-warrens-plan-to-break-up-big-tech-companies-could-affect-apples-app-store.2172639/

 

[Aleksandar37]

Its official, Pocahontas wants to destroy everything new, modern and good in life and move us back 30 years and keep us there.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/presidential-candidate-elizabeth-warrens-plan-to-break-up-big-tech-companies-could-affect-apples-app-store.2172639/

I think about this all the time. We'll probably get to a point where Amazon owns everything and will screw us over, but I also believe in capitalism and enjoy my same day shipping.

 

[Aleksandar37]

dnc bars fox news from hosting democratic presidential primary debates....

be funny if trump said presidential debates will only be hosted by fox news.

I saw an interview with the DNC chair explaining their decision and the guy did a horrible job of it. Personally, I don't think Fox or CNN should be involved.

 

[ax1]

I think about this all the time. We'll probably get to a point where Amazon owns everything and will screw us over, but I also believe in capitalism and enjoy my same day shipping.

I want Amazon to push everyone else to re-invent themselves and make things better.

My beef is when fascism is disguised as capitalism, and companies sign off on regulations that were pushed by lobby that apparently control them and look good to the casual public eye but really regulates their smaller competition out of business.

 

[Aleksandar37]

I want Amazon to push everyone else to re-invent themselves and make things better.

My beef is when fascism is disguised as capitalism, and companies sign off on regulations that were pushed by lobby that apparently control them and look good to the casual public eye but really regulates their smaller competition out of business.

Couldn't agree more with all of that. I also hate the tax incentives and subsidy crap. Companies should sink or swim on their own and not selectively be propped up with tax dollars.

 

[thebigt]

I saw an interview with the DNC chair explaining their decision and the guy did a horrible job of it. Personally, I don't think Fox or CNN should be involved.

cbs,nbc,abc,msnbc,cnn...there is no difference to me, might as well all be the same network.


you know anything about tom perez?



tom perez-'socialist candidates are the future of our party'.