DC's New Year, New Life 2019

hairygrandpa said:
DC, to me your food consumption is contrary to anyone who lifts... I mean, really. Its not about tasty -or delicious, because IT IS delicious!.
People around me eat chicken and rice multiple times a day. I eat instead, cow meat...at least 2-4 pounds a day just to conserve the muscles I have.

Thing is , calories in vs calories out, ok. BUT, watch your macros!

There is nothing you can do, or say, to defend your choices. Your nutrition for bodybuilding sucks azz!

Sorry I had to say this, it is what it is.

Don't be offended, bro.

Edit: 2-3 pounds of meat.... I overreached.
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Wow, glad your not gonna comment on the food pics.
 
I have a question to all who said, DC is leaning out and looking great. Where is it? I know that I am not blind. And I am a straight shooter. I call it what it is. Been restraining to comment because I didn’t want a pile of Sh1t all over me. But here it is anyway. Tell me what I am not seeing. DC clearly needs to get his nutrition in shape and I don’t know about training.
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DC. I still stand by what I said when I started following your log “I hope to see you get shredded”. But that’s not going to happen if you put your taste buds and preference of food first. You will lose weight because you’re eating less. But that’s not why you’re doing this, right? This is you 2yrs ago.
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I am not here to offend you. But to tell you the truth unlike many others here. It would truly be great to see you transform. I am not going to say anything anymore
 
Okay...I gonna blow the lid off:


Before: 8.16 2017 found in nudzz bank forum
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after: 02.23.2019 found here
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Now , everybody...anyone can tell the difference between August 2017 and February 2019?

Being a veteran -or not I have no mercy. Between those pics (and there are MUCH more to choose from), is no much difference.

Anyone who beliefs this progress, after 1.5 years AND GEAR is worth even mentioning, is a scumbag! I'm tired to bow to liars.

This forum sucks azz!!!
BEAST73 , the defender of DC... claiming to be natty and willfully licking the azz of others to stay in the game, you are a liar and pusher!

I very well know this will be my end here on AM. I was the one who never willfully advised bullsh1t . I always swam with the fishes...but you know what, I'm an honest person and I hate bullsh1t. In this forum, the bullsh1t is no longer acceptable, its full of reps trying to go along with everyone while pushing their needless supplements.
Honest critique is downplayed and at the end I stay here in the rain.

People: I am not willing to take part anymore in that deception!

Over and out

HGP
 
hairygrandpa said:
I'm well aware that there will be a sh1t storm my way... but I REALLY am interested in seeing DC succeed.

I am not the foe here! Don't blame the Russians. Just pointing out, AGAIN, the obvious and most important....nutrition.

Staple is protein. Where is it in these pics? It should be covering 55-70% of his meals.

School me.
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That is my diet..chicken, rice, and beans...all mixed together. My fridge is full of containers of it. I ate 5 meals of it. Every 4 days I go through 12 plus pounds of chicken breast, 10 plus cans of beans, and 2 boxes of rice. Is it good, not really...but thats not why I eat it. I also go through 10 to 12 eggs a day. However, if someone makes me something, Ill eat it. Or if Im out doing something, Ill pick up a sub for lunch or something. A big change Im starting to make is training early on an empty stomach to burn body fat better.
 
swimfan65 said:
That is my diet..chicken, rice, and beans...all mixed together. My fridge is full of containers of it. I ate 5 meals of it. Every 4 days I go through 12 plus pounds of chicken breast, 10 plus cans of beans, and 2 boxes of rice. Is it good, not really...but thats not why I eat it. I also go through 10 to 12 eggs a day. However, if someone makes me something, Ill eat it. Or if Im out doing something, Ill pick up a sub for lunch or something. A big change Im starting to make is training early on an empty stomach to burn body fat better.
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Thank you for the support -be aware that in the past I was ridiculed for pointing it out. DC is WAY behind what he could have achieved, if the false liars here wouldn't have squashed any good willed advise from me (and others) early.
You are a good man, swim.
 
Ok, lets start here. Yesterdays meals, now explain to me all you mighty Nutritionist. Whats wrong with meal 1. 2 eggs hmmm thats protein, waffles, and hashbrowns, both carbs right before working out. Lunch was the frenchbread pizza, again had protein, and carbs post workout. Dinner, the bacon wrapped chicken and Asparagus came from a keto diet website and contained over 40g of protein in it just in the portion I ate. So go? Tell me where I was wrong in my choices?
 
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DemntedCowboy said:
Ok, lets start here. Yesterdays meals, now explain to me all you mighty Nutritionist. Whats wrong with meal 1. 2 eggs hmmm thats protein, waffles, and hashbrowns, both carbs right before working out. Lunch was the frenchbread pizza, again had protein, and carbs post workout. Dinner, the bacon wrapped chicken and Asparagus came from a keto diet website and contained over 40g of protein in it just in the portion I ate. So go? Tell me where I was wrong in my choices?
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Have you read swimfan65 's post?

-Please point out the differences in your physique, using a pic from 2017 and now.
-Why did you not have progressed at all? (or do you think you have progressed, because everyone else dishonestly said so?)
-will you play the "veteran card" again?
-was your gear fake?
-anyone else to blame?


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What do you see?
I'm asking, because talking about your fancy " frenchbread pizza", "hashbrowns" and "bacon wrapped chicken and Asparagus" takes us nowhere, most of it I wouldn't even consider to be food at all.
You are excusing yourself like always....and wait....in a minute appears someone...probably a rep, who takes your side and strengthens your delusion.

You my friend are the "Emperor without clothes", AND I am the one to point that out. Why? Because I was ridiculed here for trying to help, now, the water spilled over. I don't take that lying anymore, GOT IT?
 
DemntedCowboy said:
Ok, lets start here. Yesterdays meals, now explain to me all you mighty Nutritionist. Whats wrong with meal 1. 2 eggs hmmm thats protein, waffles, and hashbrowns, both carbs right before working out. Lunch was the frenchbread pizza, again had protein, and carbs post workout. Dinner, the bacon wrapped chicken and Asparagus came from a keto diet website and contained over 40g of protein in it just in the portion I ate. So go? Tell me where I was wrong in my choices?
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I never said you were, just what I do. Different strokes for different folks. I just eat in way that is the most effective for me and my goals...it sucks...but it is effective. By the the 5th meal, Im forcing it down because I really really dont want to eat it, but I know I need the cals and need to hit 400 grams of protein for the day...and I cant afford to buy shakes. Also, the cleaner I eat the less cardio I will have to do...and I hate cardio. Also, a few times a week I eat a meal that is similar to what 99 percent of the population eats. If someone invites me out for a burger, Im running to their car..lol. I do what I do because after 20 years I have learned what works for me. Your body doesnt change in the gym, it changes in the kitchen.
 
swimfan65 said:
I never said you were, just what I do. Different strokes for different folks. I just eat in way that is the most effective for me and my goals...it sucks...but it is effective. By the the 5th meal, Im forcing it down because I really really dont want to eat it, but I know I need the cals and need to hit 400 grams of protein for the day...and I cant afford to buy shakes. Also, the cleaner I eat the less cardio I will have to do...and I hate cardio. Also, a few times a week I eat a meal that is similar to what 99 percent of the population eats. If someone invites me out for a burger, Im running to their car..lol. I do what I do because after 20 years I have learned what works for me. Your body doesnt change in the gym, it changes in the kitchen.
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I wasnt calling you out brother, and if anything since HGP wants to ask if my gear is fake. I'm sure you can verify it since we use the same brand
 
What progress have you seen in the last 2yrs? It's time you be cognizant of the fact that there hasn't been much. And quite a few people will give you "attaboy" "looking leaner" "awesome job" and all that. But, you should know what you have NOT achieved in the last two years. Taking gear is not going to help you anyway and that's proven here. Diet and training is king has also been proved here.

Stop listening to these liars. buncha motivators.. They are demotivators in your case.
 
DemntedCowboy I don't want to pile on here I like you, respect you, and want you to succeed, but I do think you could make much better food choices. I am not the right person for the job, but I would love to see someone, like The Solution or BEAST73 wright you out a 4 week nutrition plan, I believe you would be amazed at the difference it would make. At the end of the 4 weeks you could that decide if you are pleased with the difference in you physique and wish to continue or go back to "Your Way". I did not comment on your before and after pics because I agree with hairygrandpa I don't see a difference, with your training and the gear you are on I think you could make some huge gains with the right nutritional program. I hope you realize that I and everyone else here want to see you succeed. As they say you can't keep doing the same thing and expect different results.

We are all stronger when we support one another in the relentless pursuit of our passion !!
 
Ok, this is where I'm gonna stop it here, and then I'm done. I may quit posting all together. What I see here is an old hairy guy who does a cr@p ton of gear, and crazy fad diets, that he cant even stick to, and has a bf% higher than mine trying to give a guy with a nutrition background advise. Then his buddy who posted a pic in another log, and a disciple of king bob, that has legs 1" bigger than mine talking sh*t. Then lets all talk about the almighty king bob, the guy who swears he's a bodybuilder but is skinny fat, and should have abs, but has a gut instead that post pics of food that is 1,000,000x worse than the food I post. But, everyone follows his every word, and pays for his college loans by buying cr@p overpriced Walmart supplements from him. Then just because lets talk about the guy he is "training" who post horrendous food bob tells him to eat, and hasnt posted pics of himself in months because oh wait, because he is getting fatter which was obvious from the last pic he posted. I'm tired of all the fakes, and wanna be's here. Some of the guys here are genuine, but you know why people leave its because people that have no idea what they are talking about try to give advise about sh*t they know nothing about. And then you get bashed if you tell the truth about some people. So, I will stick with IG, along with the others that have left AM, that are there, and This thread is done.
 
DC, You’re leaning out. The guys just looking at the front images,but I’am looking at all angles. Your foods choices could be better,just like My food choices could be better as well.

We all here on AM are Amateurs when it comes to professional pro card bodybuilders,and We live and Learn. If you see a person in need of help,It’s many positive ways of approaching the person and the situation.

DC,keep doing your thing and what makes you happy,because if I listen to some of the people here on AM,I would be fat,overweight,injured,or have damaged organs due to gear.
 
BEAST73 said:
DC, You’re leaning out. The guys just looking at the front images,but I’am looking at all angles. Your foods choices could be better,just like My food choices could be better as well.

We all here on AM are Amateurs when it comes to professional pro card bodybuilders,and We live and Learn. If you see a person in need of help,It’s many positive ways of approaching the person and the situation.

DC,keep doing your thing and what makes you happy,because if I listen to some of the people here on AM,I would be fat,overweight,injured,or have damaged organs due to gear.
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You are spot on. Everyones diet could be better but for some reason everyone feels like bashing on me. Thats why I'm gonna do me, and I'm done posting threads here. Cause to many fakes here.
 
BEAST73 said:
DC, You’re leaning out. The guys just looking at the front images,but I’am looking at all angles. Your foods choices could be better,just like My food choices could be better as well.

We all here on AM are Amateurs when it comes to professional pro card bodybuilders,and We live and Learn. If you see a person in need of help,It’s many positive ways of approaching the person and the situation.

DC,keep doing your thing and what makes you happy,because if I listen to some of the people here on AM,I would be fat,overweight,injured,or have damaged organs due to gear.
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Okay. In that case, why lift? just do the diet. You can still "lean out" as you say it. Please stop this. What angles are you looking at which many over here with eyes can't see. As DC keep saying that he is an army guy.. Do you think people get positive motivation there to do their job? Stop this BS! "DC,keep doing your thing and what makes you happy" He's taking all the gear to stay happy or look better?

And finally nobody here in their right mind is sold on your natty card bro.. So, save it! Damn.. I am just done!
 
hairygrandpa said:
Okay...I gonna blow the lid off:


Before: 8.16 2017 found in nudzz bank forum
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after: 02.23.2019 found here
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Now , everybody...anyone can tell the difference between August 2017 and February 2019?

Being a veteran -or not I have no mercy. Between those pics (and there are MUCH more to choose from), is no much difference.

Anyone who beliefs this progress, after 1.5 years AND GEAR is worth even mentioning, is a scumbag! I'm tired to bow to liars.

This forum sucks azz!!!
BEAST73 , the defender of DC... claiming to be natty and willfully licking the azz of others to stay in the game, you are a liar and pusher!

I very well know this will be my end here on AM. I was the one who never willfully advised bullsh1t . I always swam with the fishes...but you know what, I'm an honest person and I hate bullsh1t. In this forum, the bullsh1t is no longer acceptable, its full of reps trying to go along with everyone while pushing their needless supplements.
Honest critique is downplayed and at the end I stay here in the rain.

People: I am not willing to take part anymore in that deception!

Over and out

HGP
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HGP,Thanks for the Compliment. Natty!
 
DemntedCowboy said:
Ok, this is where I'm gonna stop it here, and then I'm done. I may quit posting all together. What I see here is an old hairy guy who does a cr@p ton of gear, and crazy fad diets, that he cant even stick to, and has a bf% higher than mine trying to give a guy with a nutrition background advise. Then his buddy who posted a pic in another log, and a disciple of king bob, that has legs 1" bigger than mine talking sh*t. Then lets all talk about the almighty king bob, the guy who swears he's a bodybuilder but is skinny fat, and should have abs, but has a gut instead that post pics of food that is 1,000,000x worse than the food I post. But, everyone follows his every word, and pays for his college loans by buying cr@p overpriced Walmart supplements from him. Then just because lets talk about the guy he is "training" who post horrendous food bob tells him to eat, and hasnt posted pics of himself in months because oh wait, because he is getting fatter which was obvious from the last pic he posted. I'm tired of all the fakes, and wanna be's here. Some of the guys here are genuine, but you know why people leave its because people that have no idea what they are talking about try to give advise about sh*t they know nothing about. And then you get bashed if you tell the truth about some people. So, I will stick with IG, along with the others that have left AM, that are there, and This thread is done.
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Lol.. Disciple.. I like that.. Just because me and Bob agree on a few things doesn't mean anything.. And DC, (at least address it to me when you're talking about me. Like I just did) I have an extra inch because I worked for it by eating right and training my a$$ off. Not with any gear.
 
jtmass said:
Okay. In that case, why lift? just do the diet. You can still "lean out" as you say it. Please stop this. What angles are you looking at which many over here with eyes can't see. As DC keep saying that he is an army guy.. Do you think people get positive motivation there to do their job? Stop this BS! "DC,keep doing your thing and what makes you happy" He's taking all the gear to stay happy or look better?

And finally nobody here in their right mind is sold on your natty card bro.. So, save it! Damn.. I am just done!
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Your right, I was in the Army, and I was also an NCO, and I feel like I am a SGT in charge of a bunch of basic trainees that thing they know more than the old SGT.
 
hairygrandpa said:
Okay...I gonna blow the lid off:


Before: 8.16 2017 found in nudzz bank forum
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after: 02.23.2019 found here
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Now , everybody...anyone can tell the difference between August 2017 and February 2019?

Being a veteran -or not I have no mercy. Between those pics (and there are MUCH more to choose from), is no much difference.

Anyone who beliefs this progress, after 1.5 years AND GEAR is worth even mentioning, is a scumbag! I'm tired to bow to liars.

This forum sucks azz!!!
BEAST73 , the defender of DC... claiming to be natty and willfully licking the azz of others to stay in the game, you are a liar and pusher!

I very well know this will be my end here on AM. I was the one who never willfully advised bullsh1t . I always swam with the fishes...but you know what, I'm an honest person and I hate bullsh1t. In this forum, the bullsh1t is no longer acceptable, its full of reps trying to go along with everyone while pushing their needless supplements.
Honest critique is downplayed and at the end I stay here in the rain.

People: I am not willing to take part anymore in that deception!

Over and out

HGP
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Don’t leave dude. JT, You and a handful of other people keep it blunt.. the forum needs that.

Get ready though lol Beast is going to have his panties in a severe wad
 
jtmass said:
Lol.. Disciple.. I like that.. Just because me and Bob agree on a few things doesn't mean anything.. And DC, (at least address it to me when you're talking about me. Like I just did) I have an extra inch because I worked for it by eating right and training my a$$ off. Not with any gear.
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Yall all keep saying the ton of gear I'm on. Pls explain this to me. Really. What ton of gear am I on. I'm on TRT, a little EQ, and Tbol low dosed. I am not doing, nor have ever done huge freakin cycles.
 
tyga tyga said:
Don’t leave dude. JT, You and a handful of other people keep it blunt.. the forum needs that.

Get ready though lol Beast is going to have his panties in a severe wad
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I'm not leaving. I am just done with this thread. I will still post when I feel it is warranted.
 
jtmass said:
Okay. In that case, why lift? just do the diet. You can still "lean out" as you say it. Please stop this. What angles are you looking at which many over here with eyes can't see. As DC keep saying that he is an army guy.. Do you think people get positive motivation there to do their job? Stop this BS! "DC,keep doing your thing and what makes you happy" He's taking all the gear to stay happy or look better?

And finally nobody here in their right mind is sold on your natty card bro.. So, save it! Damn.. I am just done!
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Bro,to be honest to your statement about me being natty,it’s Truly a compliment. Thanks a Million!
 
Here they are. The official reps and the undercover reps, to save the day!

Should I crawl the logs for more before pics? I don't think so. Its not the angle, its not the shadow, its plain laziness and lies I see.
Rocket3015 I like you and I think you are a good guy. I have respect, because you are sporting the physique I'm trying to achieve.

But be honest.... how many times did you post a thumb up to DemntedCowboy ? How many times, like me, have you stated to see differences in his before -and after pics? Just to oblige and keep his delusions up?
I understand what your job is -and believe that you are one of very few who does it good. Shouldn't be pointing out flaws ( done politely) be seen as a form of help? Don't you think DC would have needed some month's ago?
BEAST73 you are an athlete. A very good looking one. I don't think you are natty -but I can't proof the opposite. What I know is, you are feeding DC's delusions and are logging supplements, stating they work -by manipulating your diet instead, claiming that either the weight loss -or gain is due to the supplement, when its in reality due to nutrition manipulation and your advanced knowledge. That my brother, is dishonest.
 
DemntedCowboy said:
Ok, lets start here. Yesterdays meals, now explain to me all you mighty Nutritionist. Whats wrong with meal 1. 2 eggs hmmm thats protein, waffles, and hashbrowns, both carbs right before working out. Lunch was the frenchbread pizza, again had protein, and carbs post workout. Dinner, the bacon wrapped chicken and Asparagus came from a keto diet website and contained over 40g of protein in it just in the portion I ate. So go? Tell me where I was wrong in my choices?
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I have very little time for AM lately and hate to jump in on all kinds of fights. I think what everyone here is saying @dementedcowboy is that you could do better...if you want to. If you don't want to, that is your right as well. Like you said, you do you.

But I think that sometimes love hurts. One of the reasons I don't have time right now is because my father had a stroke and requires a LOT of care. My mom is extremely overweight and out of shape and does not yet realize that she probably isn't capable of caring for him (he has been in nursing homes, hospitals and rehab since it started) - but that she is part of the problem. She continues to bring him take out food for 2 meals a day in ADDITION to his nursing home food.

And when I point out that Wendy's isn't acceptable for a stroke patient, she says, "Its a salad with eggs and cheese, what's wrong with that?" Or "Its ground beef with beans and beef, what's wrong with that?"

It is a kind of justification that ignores the discomfort of the facts - it isn't that some foods are good or bad. It is the overall picture. It is the caloric intake, macro and micro breakdown.

And I have been on the other side - I was in their shoes and 300+ pounds. I told myself all kinds of lies. One being "I am a big guy". The fact is, I never was. And I had to accept I am smaller - and be ok with it. A lot of guys on here criticize me for my size too. And it is valid. I am not a big guy.

I also told myself, "I can be fat and healthy at the same time."

And "I don't need to lock down my diet to lose weight."

And when I started changing those thoughts and beliefs and accepting reality, I made major progress. I did things that people thought were crazy. But then I stopped making progress toward my goal and Hairygrandpa gave me the same hard love that he and others on here are giving you...and I responded and got in the best shape of my life.

And then I got comfortable and lost a bunch.

I've won, I've lost. I have been on both sides. It can be really hard. But we need to get you to the winners table.

Waffles and hash browns are not justified just because they are "carb sources". Are you tracking and logging your food? Do you have a meal plan?

I find for myself I do best with a plan that eliminates any need for food decisions. If I make on-the-fly food choices, they will be inevitably worse than if I had a plan in place beforehand.
 
Every chill the f5ck out. These post are all made by people I respect and honest, RESPECTFUL, opinions should be considered. If anything, the guys in this thread have been giving out some of the best advice on AM..myself included. As core the core members of this site, we cannot be BLASTING one another.
 
hairygrandpa said:
Here they are. The official reps and the undercover reps, to save the day!

Should I crawl the logs for more before pics? I don't think so. Its not the angle, its not the shadow, its plain laziness and lies I see.
Rocket3015 I like you and I think you are a good guy. I have respect, because you are sporting the physique I'm trying to achieve.

But be honest.... how many times did you post a thumb up to DemntedCowboy ? How many times, like me, have you stated to see differences in his before -and after pics? Just to oblige and keep his delusions up?
I understand what your job is -and believe that you are one of very few who does it good. Shouldn't be pointing out flaws ( done politely) be seen as a form of help? Don't you think DC would have needed some month's ago?
BEAST73 you are an athlete. A very good looking one. I don't think you are natty -but I can't proof the opposite. What I know is, you are feeding DC's delusions and are logging supplements, stating they work -by manipulating your diet instead, claiming that either the weight loss -or gain is due to the supplement, when its in reality due to nutrition manipulation and your advanced knowledge. That my brother, is dishonest.
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HGP, maybe its the lack of food, or maybe the Vodka you drank at your BBQ. But, your definetly talking alot of sh*t up in here tonight. No my pics arent the best, but you know who can see changes. I can, my wife does, my co-workers, hell even bman who is in my log has seen it. Why, because these are people that see me everyday in real life. You going off pics on an online forum. And pictures dont always tell the whole story.
 
HIT4ME said:
I have very little time for AM lately and hate to jump in on all kinds of fights. I think what everyone here is saying @dementedcowboy is that you could do better...if you want to. If you don't want to, that is your right as well. Like you said, you do you.

But I think that sometimes love hurts. One of the reasons I don't have time right now is because my father had a stroke and requires a LOT of care. My mom is extremely overweight and out of shape and does not yet realize that she probably isn't capable of caring for him (he has been in nursing homes, hospitals and rehab since it started) - but that she is part of the problem. She continues to bring him take out food for 2 meals a day in ADDITION to his nursing home food.

And when I point out that Wendy's isn't acceptable for a stroke patient, she says, "Its a salad with eggs and cheese, what's wrong with that?" Or "Its ground beef with beans and beef, what's wrong with that?"

It is a kind of justification that ignores the discomfort of the facts - it isn't that some foods are good or bad. It is the overall picture. It is the caloric intake, macro and micro breakdown.

And I have been on the other side - I was in their shoes and 300+ pounds. I told myself all kinds of lies. One being "I am a big guy". The fact is, I never was. And I had to accept I am smaller - and be ok with it. A lot of guys on here criticize me for my size too. And it is valid. I am not a big guy.

I also told myself, "I can be fat and healthy at the same time."

And "I don't need to lock down my diet to lose weight."

And when I started changing those thoughts and beliefs and accepting reality, I made major progress. I did things that people thought were crazy. But then I stopped making progress toward my goal and Hairygrandpa gave me the same hard love that he and others on here are giving you...and I responded and got in the best shape of my life.

And then I got comfortable and lost a bunch.

I've won, I've lost. I have been on both sides. It can be really hard. But we need to get you to the winners table.

Waffles and hash browns are not justified just because they are "carb sources". Are you tracking and logging your food? Do you have a meal plan?

I find for myself I do best with a plan that eliminates any need for food decisions. If I make on-the-fly food choices, they will be inevitably worse than if I had a plan in place beforehand.
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I do track my food, I have also been all over the weight spectrum. Both sides of it. And as I said people are going off pics, and thatrs great. But they dont tell the whole story, because people in my real life, have seen the changes.
 
swimfan65 said:
Every chill the f5ck out. These post are all made by people I respect and honest, RESPECTFUL, opinions should be considered. If anything, the guys in this thread have been giving out some of the best advice on AM..myself included. As core the core members of this site, we cannot be BLASTING one another.
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Agree 100%
 
DemntedCowboy said:
I do track my food, I have also been all over the weight spectrum. Both sides of it. And as I said people are going off pics, and thatrs great. But they dont tell the whole story, because people in my real life, have seen the changes.
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Hey, Im prepared for the comments when I post my pics a little later today...just be gentle..im very fragile..lol.
 
hairygrandpa said:
Here they are. The official reps and the undercover reps, to save the day!

Should I crawl the logs for more before pics? I don't think so. Its not the angle, its not the shadow, its plain laziness and lies I see.
Rocket3015 I like you and I think you are a good guy. I have respect, because you are sporting the physique I'm trying to achieve.

But be honest.... how many times did you post a thumb up to DemntedCowboy ? How many times, like me, have you stated to see differences in his before -and after pics? Just to oblige and keep his delusions up?
I understand what your job is -and believe that you are one of very few who does it good. Shouldn't be pointing out flaws ( done politely) be seen as a form of help? Don't you think DC would have needed some month's ago?
BEAST73 you are an athlete. A very good looking one. I don't think you are natty -but I can't proof the opposite. What I know is, you are feeding DC's delusions and are logging supplements, stating they work -by manipulating your diet instead, claiming that either the weight loss -or gain is due to the supplement, when its in reality due to nutrition manipulation and your advanced knowledge. That my brother, is dishonest.
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The supplements that I logged about has truly aid and made a difference in my physique and overall health.

DC, need to make changes and I hope he will make changes,because he have Great determination and discipline to go to waste. But If I was there training with DC,his Body and Performance would be Elite Level.
 
I want us all to succeed end story (for me)
 
This is why I say pics dont tell the whole story these pics where taken 24 hours apart, can you see a difference. They where both taken in the same place, same ligthing just in different waysInvalid Link Removed
 
swimfan65 said:
Every chill the f5ck out. These post are all made by people I respect and honest, RESPECTFUL, opinions should be considered. If anything, the guys in this thread have been giving out some of the best advice on AM..myself included. As core the core members of this site, we cannot be BLASTING one another.
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I did share my opinions to be ridiculed here. You should stay out of this. This IS NOT OVER. The dishonesty on this board, paired with dubious "rep moves" lit my fuse. There are people here literally working their azz off to achieve their goals, while there is DC claiming to have achieved (partly) his goals already -and half of this forum is feeding his delusions, you too!

I want to get to the bottom of that pit.
 
swimfan65 said:
Every chill the f5ck out. These post are all made by people I respect and honest, RESPECTFUL, opinions should be considered. If anything, the guys in this thread have been giving out some of the best advice on AM..myself included. As core the core members of this site, we cannot be BLASTING one another.
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However, as you guys are well aware, Im all for blasting the dbags that troll around here.
 
BEAST73 said:
Same here Brother! I think the 6 days fasting did something to HGP,because I never seen him like this before.
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Call it enlightenment, if you will, mental focus is enhanced on a zero cal diet, wanna see the studies? I see you back-paddling :

DC, need to make changes and I hope he will make changes,because he have Great determination and discipline to go to waste. But If I was there training with DC,his Body and Performance would be Elite Level.
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Don't make me look up your reply to me criticizing DC's approach a week ago. Now suddenly, he could be helped? Before it was HIS choice, and "what works for him", remember?

Not only I was dumbfounded by your reply defending his (non-existing) nutrition, my PM's filled up like my adrenaline now, while typing here.
 
hairygrandpa said:
I did share my opinions to be ridiculed here. You should stay out of this. This IS NOT OVER. The dishonesty on this board, paired with dubious "rep moves" lit my fuse. There are people here literally working their azz off to achieve their goals, while there is DC claiming to have achieved (partly) his goals already -and half of this forum is feeding his delusions, you too!

I want to get to the bottom of that pit.
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This is over, cause you cant see a difference in a picture, while people in my real life can. You want to rant do it. But dont come at me like I don't put in the time or effort. I dont meal prep cause my wife cooks for our family. I have posted before 90% of our food comes from our land, not from a store. Do we have some store bought stuff, sure. Do I eat it from time to time. I do. But, my diet is good, and I have made changes, and wont be talked down to by people that think they know more about me, than I do. Because they go by what they learned reading some garbage online. As far as training goes I have trained with some of the best, pro's and amatuers alike. My former training partner who I will post a pic of is an amateur and his wife is a pro. I dont do gear to be a bodybuilder, I dont eat like a bodybuilder, because I'm not a bodybuilder. And if your not a pro, you shouldnt be eating like one. It isnt helping you.Invalid Link Removed
 
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