Our Favorite AAS

Thanks, and no problem. I'm the king of making typos when in a sleep-deprived state. Hey, look at the bright side... maybe one day I'll be legit enough to inject test prop (or any kind of test, for that matter) at a dose of 100 mg+ per day.

I’d say that’s a pretty standard blast. It doesn’t build up in your system. Much more manageable than what it adds up to per week if you took that number as cypionate. Not entirely sure why either. Just is. (The bloat thing is still a myth though)
 
I’d say that’s a pretty standard blast. It doesn’t build up in your system. Much more manageable than what it adds up to per week if you took that number as cypionate. Not entirely sure why either. Just is. (The bloat thing is still a myth though)

I guess at this point, I'd like to stay pretty lean, so I figure it's a better idea to keep the test dose fairly low and let the DHB (and possibly TBol or Anavar) shine. Even if running a fairly low dose of test costs me something in the way of gains, I'm fine with that if it means the gains will be mostly lean muscle.

Just curious, have you ever run test prop before? If so, do you notice mood/confidence/libido changes pretty quickly (as in, within a few days of taking your first dose)?
 
I guess at this point, I'd like to stay pretty lean, so I figure it's a better idea to keep the test dose fairly low and let the DHB (and possibly TBol or Anavar) shine. Even if running a fairly low dose of test costs me something in the way of gains, I'm fine with that if it means the gains will be mostly lean muscle.

Just curious, have you ever run test prop before? If so, do you notice mood/confidence/libido changes pretty quickly (as in, within a few days of taking your first dose)?

Yes and yes. Though I’m hyper reactive to steroids, psychologically. Very little of the right thing and I’m kind of wigged out.
 
So a low dose (e.g., ~30 mg) injected every single day is a better idea if using test prop? Btw, do you think an AI would be necessary at 200-210 mg/wk?

I am on trt. 200 mg test injected once a week with bloods taken on the 7th day right before next test injection and with no AI my E2 tested at 40 on Labcorp’s Estradiol Sensitive test. This is slightly above normal as I believe 38 or so is the maximum to still be considered “in range”, even so I don’t think it justified an AI (though my doctor thought so) since it is only a bit above range and I exhibited no symptoms of high Estradiol such as water bloat or itchy or tender nipples. The doctor was fine if I wanted to stay at that dose test with no AI amd just monitor Estradiol. To be safe, instead i just had him lower my test dose to 175 mg a day to decrease my E.
 
Good to see you around Abe... Its been a while.

But let me get this straight... You once ****ed a lady boy.... Because of the tren sides?

Thanks, been growing and learning.. Thought I'd check back in here.

Let's say the my mentality was really ****y when I was running over 1g of it, but even not over a gram.

Stay away from thailand if you on tren, these ladyboys look better than most american women
 
Thanks, been growing and learning.. Thought I'd check back in here.

Let's say the my mentality was really ****y when I was running over 1g of it, but even not over a gram.

Stay away from thailand if you on tren, these ladyboys look better than most american women
Hahaha well man my girlfriend is from Thailand (and I can assure you has an amazing puzzy) but we are planning to take a trip there.... Thats good to know man I'll stay off the tren while there for sure

I think last time you popped up you were headed over there to do some mma training?
 
So coming up I’m thinking I’m going to use dhb and primo together on a long haul recomposition. That’s my final decision. 20 weeks, a cruise, and 20 more weeks, then pct. hcg will be used the whole cycle. I’m not taking any more chances than what I’ve calculated I can take.
 
Hahaha well man my girlfriend is from Thailand (and I can assure you has an amazing puzzy) but we are planning to take a trip there.... Thats good to know man I'll stay off the tren while there for sure

I think last time you popped up you were headed over there to do some mma training?
I mean I didn't just mess with just the lady boys, the girls over there are amazing so good on you for snagging one
Yeah I was there doing mainly muay thai and I slept at the dojo, which had other martial arts.
The food is amazing and super cheap in thailand so have fun, just make sure you have identification with you the cops can easily be paid off
 
So coming up I’m thinking I’m going to use dhb and primo together on a long haul recomposition. That’s my final decision. 20 weeks, a cruise, and 20 more weeks, then pct. hcg will be used the whole cycle. I’m not taking any more chances than what I’ve calculated I can take.

Primo is another steroid I was strongly considering throwing into my cycle, especially since it seems to be one of the only AAS out there with a reputation for being almost "good for you" (in terms of promoting feelings of well-being, boosting immune system, and however else it's good), but I've heard it can be pretty rough on the hairline... in addition to being really expensive. Have you run primo before? If so, did you notice anything in the way of hairloss? (assuming you're genetically susceptible in the first place)
 
Primo is another steroid I was strongly considering throwing into my cycle, especially since it seems to be one of the only AAS out there with a reputation for being almost "good for you" (in terms of promoting feelings of well-being, boosting immune system, and however else it's good), but I've heard it can be pretty rough on the hairline... in addition to being really expensive. Have you run primo before? If so, did you notice anything in the way of hairloss? (assuming you're genetically susceptible in the first place)

I am and no, neither dhb nor it’s 1-methylated counterpart primobolan have resulted in any shedding for me. Winstrol and epistane however... I’m lucky I don’t look like Hulk Hogan.
 
In all, thanks to rogaine and no thanks to epistane, I kept a full thick head of chest length hair til I was 26. Almost didn’t.

Now I’m losing it again, and have been for the past five years or so. Receding hairline, no bald spots.
 
i lost an inch or two of hairline with oral primo ... the real sh17 back in the day pharma.

Damn, really? So I'm assuming that injectable primo (if it's the real deal) would cause the same effect in someone who's genetically susceptible?

My hairline has mildly receded over the last few years to what I guess would be considered a "mature hairline" with almost no recession at the temples, so I really want to keep it where it's at now.

BTW, from what I've researched, DHB supposedly doesn't promote hair loss in MPB-susceptible guys (I am one) because it's already been 5-alpha-reduced. Does this mean it should be as hairline-safe as TBol (which, strangely enough, almost seemed to make my hair thicker while on-cycle)?
 
In all, thanks to rogaine and no thanks to epistane, I kept a full thick head of chest length hair til I was 26. Almost didn’t.

Now I’m losing it again, and have been for the past five years or so. Receding hairline, no bald spots.

Have you considered using RU58841 topically?
 
Yes tren with any bulking oral is massive. If you eat right and work out hard it can really make you look like a bodybuilder and not just another big gym guy.

Agreed. Im on test tren and SD at 20mg preworkout during a cut. Even with 45mins to an hour of cardio ed and a super clean diet...I am exploding. Everytime I look in the mirror, I am bigger and leaner. Pretty crazy. I find myself wearing loose shirts to cover up at the gym because it is just so obvious that I am on. Also training like a madman..2 hours weights and an hour of cardip ED. Im going to force myself to take a day off on Thursday. Must say...this is easily the most effective cycle I have ever done.
 
Damn, really? So I'm assuming that injectable primo (if it's the real deal) would cause the same effect in someone who's genetically susceptible?

My hairline has mildly receded over the last few years to what I guess would be considered a "mature hairline" with almost no recession at the temples, so I really want to keep it where it's at now.

BTW, from what I've researched, DHB supposedly doesn't promote hair loss in MPB-susceptible guys (I am one) because it's already been 5-alpha-reduced. Does this mean it should be as hairline-safe as TBol (which, strangely enough, almost seemed to make my hair thicker while on-cycle)?

Primo, winstrol, dhb, anavar, epistane... all 5a reduced. All may cause MPB. They’re dhts. ****in proviron even.
 
Tbol is not 5a reduced. It is dianabol that has an attachment to prevent conversion to estrogen.
 
Agreed. Im on test tren and SD at 20mg preworkout during a cut. Even with 45mins to an hour of cardio ed and a super clean diet...I am exploding. Everytime I look in the mirror, I am bigger and leaner. Pretty crazy. I find myself wearing loose shirts to cover up at the gym because it is just so obvious that I am on. Also training like a madman..2 hours weights and an hour of cardip ED. Im going to force myself to take a day off on Thursday. Must say...this is easily the most effective cycle I have ever done.

Aren’t you glad you took my suggestion of the superdrol pwo seriously?
 
Primo, winstrol, dhb, anavar, epistane... all 5a reduced. All may cause MPB. They’re dhts. ****in proviron even.

Damn, so are there any steroids out there that are good for lean bulking (aside from TBol) that won't cause MPB? Or is applying RU58841 basically my only choice (since finasteride wouldn't work for these), unless I just get lucky and don't lose any hair on DHB?
 
Your running Primo now? Or did I misunderstand... What dose are you at and how long to you intend to run it for?

Edit: if not your first time, what’s the longest you have ran it for?

I am prone to MPB is what I said. I’ve used it a bunch in the past. Plan to again. 20 weeks easy as pie. High as I can afford to run it.

Looking like a piddly amount is what I’ll be able to afford, unless I just take a leap of faith and buy less, use more, and then buy more. Which I hate doing. It never works out, I never buy more and end up cutting short. Hate it when that happens. So I’d rather get enough that I can run the test dhb and primo at 500 600 400 for the entire 20 weeks.
 
I saw your log, but tbh didn’t read thru all the pages to see doses..

Test, Tren and SD only?
What doses are you running Test and Tren at?

Test was 250...but bumped back up to 500. Tren is 100mgs..two days on..one day off..so like 400 to 500. SD is 20mgs PWO.
 
How many days a week are you training?

Im going to force myself to take Thursday off. It will be 8 straight. My routine in the past has been 3 on one off, 3 on one off. But on this cycle, I feel like i can go balls out ED..i know I shouldnt..but hell I feel better than i ever have.
 
We could have thrown out half this thread if you guys stopped trying to look like Ashton Kutcher and just shave your da** head
 
We could have thrown out half this thread if you guys stopped trying to look like Ashton Kutcher and just shave your da** head

Never! I’ll rock a skullet if I must.

I am a real American, fight for the rights of every man...
 
Im going to force myself to take Thursday off. It will be 8 straight. My routine in the past has been 3 on one off, 3 on one off. But on this cycle, I feel like i can go balls out ED..i know I shouldnt..but hell I feel better than i ever have.

I don’t know, the way I was raised, if you feel like you can train, then you can train, And you should train.
 
I’m actually back exactly where I was before I took lifting seriously, except with much larger arms. So I guess I’m starting over. I’ve been saying it all year.
 
You have no idea to what lengths I would go to just never have stopped and never have succumbed to depression etc.


But I think you might have some idea of to what lengths I might go to get it all back.
 
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