Hyde’s Strength Odyssey

[Hyde]

Ugh, it is getting harder and harder to read about be doing squats and deadlifts... This foot needs to heal!!!!

Looking forward to seeing how well you have recovered. You did a nice run, and your PCT was solid and diet has been pretty good so expecting it to be pretty squared away.

I always seem to pretty well, HPTA-wise. Honestly I have felt and functioned better than ever so I don’t care what the hormone levels are as much as I wanna see lipids, hematocrit, blood glucose, triglycerides, liver are doing.

I tried the vertical diet months ago but didn’t stick with it because of a bunch of things I have fixed, prep-wise: I don’t like cooked spinach, rice cooked in stock is a nasty slime, carrots the same, steak is too hard to eat and digest multiple times a day, meatballs don’t really fit in my pressure cooker, ricecooker is a pain to clean daily. Solution: blend spinach with OJ, eat carrots raw (better nutritionally too), fill ricecooker so I have 2-3 days of rice, grill 90/10 burgers in bulk that can be mashed, and add stock to mash at time of heating meal. On third day doing it this way and it’s been so much better.

 

[jswain34]

295x16 RDL...bruh...what are you trying to do to yourself?! ??

 

[MrKleen73]

I always seem to pretty well, HPTA-wise. Honestly I have felt and functioned better than ever so I don’t care what the hormone levels are as much as I wanna see lipids, hematocrit, blood glucose, triglycerides, liver are doing.

I tried the vertical diet months ago but didn’t stick with it because of a bunch of things I have fixed, prep-wise: I don’t like cooked spinach, rice cooked in stock is a nasty slime, carrots the same, steak is too hard to eat and digest multiple times a day, meatballs don’t really fit in my pressure cooker, ricecooker is a pain to clean daily. Solution: blend spinach with OJ, eat carrots raw (better nutritionally too), fill ricecooker so I have 2-3 days of rice, grill 90/10 burgers in bulk that can be mashed, and add stock to mash at time of heating meal. On third day doing it this way and it’s been so much better.

I was more so referring to your vital stats and not testosterone recovery.


Yes that sounds almost exactly like i intend to run it. The cooking and prep won't always be the same. Hell right now i am just shooting the bone stock down the hatch premeal. I like peppers, so fresh raw peppers with Himalayan Sea salt, doing the Cranberry for iodine, but may end up just getting my iodine from salt. Also planning on getting some potassium citrate, so I don't have to worry about getting my potassium in. I love spinach in shakes you can't really taste it but I also love the taste of cooked spinach too. I am only trying to get in 8-10 oz of beef a day tops, I like the nutritional benefit of it but I won't be able to do all redmeat due to digestion.

To be honest, I am mostly following the horizontal part of the diet to get my nutrients in, but some of the extra limitations like mostly red meat are being left undone. My digestion is simply not good enough for that. Plus I like to have some variety. I do see it as a nice introduction to a lower FODMAP type of diet that should cause less stress on the gut. The high red meat content not included in that statement as far as I am concerned.

Bottom line red meat takes longer to digest, therefore it is harder to digest... end of discussion. I understand he is relying on the ease of the rest of the required food on the digestive system to alleviate and allow for the higher red meat but if I even tried that it would have to be something I built up too and not so sure that it is needed.

Stan likes to say, "Have you ever seen a big chicken?" My answer is no, but I have seen lots of huge guys that built themselves off of chicken... a lot of it is marketing hype...

 

[Hyde]

295x16 RDL...bruh...what are you trying to do to yourself?! ??

That was actually the easiest part of the session - you can tell by the reps I was sandbagging my 4x8 hard. I was like forget doing 2 more sets of 8; I’m doing 16 and being done with it

To be honest, I am mostly following the horizontal part of the diet to get my nutrients in, but some of the extra limitations like mostly red meat are being left undone. My digestion is simply not good enough for that. Plus I like to have some variety. I do see it as a nice introduction to a lower FODMAP type of diet that should cause less stress on the gut. The high red meat content not included in that statement as far as I am concerned.

Stan likes to say, "Have you ever seen a big chicken?" My answer is no, but I have seen lots of huge guys that built themselves off of chicken... a lot of it is marketing hype...

Yeah it’s mega hype now. Truth is the only staple bro foods I’ve always liked was jasmine rice and ground beef. Everything else had one thing or another against it for mass consumption, but I can eat ground beef and white rice for 2-3 meals day in and day out provided the meals are moist enough - enter chicken stock. Before I loved Franks hot sauce but it would have to be swimming in it to be lubed enough and that would promote acid reflux. But stock is perfect!

I also like salmon, and it’s super easy to bake once a week (gives me 6 big pieces), but wild caught is super pricey. Always was told that farm-raised was crap & didn’t have the same omega 3s- then last year’s America’s Strongest Man in the 231s told me about how when you actually go look at the studies the difference is negligible! He said he even had a nutrition course try to feed him that myth, then when he forced their hand they couldn’t provide any counter research.

 

[MrKleen73]

That was actually the easiest part of the session - you can tell by the reps I was sandbagging my 4x8 hard. I was like forget doing 2 more sets of 8; I’m doing 16 and being done with it



Yeah it’s mega hype now. Truth is the only staple bro foods I’ve always liked was jasmine rice and ground beef. Everything else had one thing or another against it for mass consumption, but I can eat ground beef and white rice for 2-3 meals day in and day out provided the meals are moist enough - enter chicken stock. Before I loved Franks hot sauce but it would have to be swimming in it to be lubed enough and that would promote acid reflux. But stock is perfect!

I also like salmon, and it’s super easy to bake once a week (gives me 6 big pieces), but wild caught is super pricey. Always was told that farm-raised was crap & didn’t have the same omega 3s- then last year’s America’s Strongest Man in the 231s told me about how when you actually go look at the studies the difference is negligible! He said he even had a nutrition course try to feed him that myth, then when he forced their hand they couldn’t provide any counter research.

Yeah, I guess I have noticed that ground meat was easier to digest. It just never occurred to me, but I think the stomach issues were more related to steak, we shall see. I just made a lb of 93/7 turkey and 93/7 beef and brought it to work with a vat of rice, and a bottle of chicken bone stock, been eating peppers and carrots raw, spinach in just about any way I feel like eating it. Fruits well they are yum so that part is easy!

I really like the idea of taking care of the vitamins and minerals via whole foods first and foremost then adding in the rest. Although calling it a Foundation diet would have made more sense but not as cool sounding...

How I am doing it may not be his exact set up but I love the idea of knowing my vitamins and mineral intake is squared away, plus it is a lot more veggies than I have really eaten in a long time and that is a plus. Still a little low on my potassium intake but far better than I was.

 

[jswain34]

Hmm. I like the sound of this modified vertical diet you have going here Kleen. I always tend to stray away from things with too much marketing hype (ie vertical diet on instagram) but seeing you talk about it this way has me more intrigued. Keep posting updates about it if you dont mind, i will be curiously following along. Like you seem to have been previously, i have been working on getting much more fruits and veggies into my diet. Veggies were always in there to some degree, not as much as they should have been or should be though. And fruits...ya, i still suck at that.

 

[MrKleen73]

Hmm. I like the sound of this modified vertical diet you have going here Kleen. I always tend to stray away from things with too much marketing hype (ie vertical diet on instagram) but seeing you talk about it this way has me more intrigued. Keep posting updates about it if you dont mind, i will be curiously following along. Like you seem to have been previously, i have been working on getting much more fruits and veggies into my diet. Veggies were always in there to some degree, not as much as they should have been or should be though. And fruits...ya, i still suck at that.

I will definitely be talking about it in my log, although I am contemplating starting a temporary one for the No New Year Resolution challenge thread. I don't want to gum up Hyde's log updating about it.

By the way, I don't think you were on the pre written mention list so come on over and join in if you want too. Invalid Link Removed

 

[MrKleen73]

Hmm. I like the sound of this modified vertical diet you have going here Kleen. I always tend to stray away from things with too much marketing hype (ie vertical diet on instagram) but seeing you talk about it this way has me more intrigued. Keep posting updates about it if you dont mind, i will be curiously following along. Like you seem to have been previously, i have been working on getting much more fruits and veggies into my diet. Veggies were always in there to some degree, not as much as they should have been or should be though. And fruits...ya, i still suck at that.

I will definitely be talking about it in my log, although I am contemplating starting a temporary one for the No New Year Resolution challenge thread. I don't want to gum up Hyde's log updating about it.

By the way, I don't think you were on the pre written mention list so come on over and join in if you want too. Invalid Link Removed

 

[Hyde]

Years back I was told by this huge fat natural guy that if I want to be as strong as possible I need to stick to red meat and potatoes. He was a SHW and benched about 550.

Fast forward to a year or so ago and a juicehead powerlifting buddy was in a bad crash and broke one lower leg and tore both hamstrings on impact. After a few weeks of rest I started picking him up (he was in a wheelchair) every week and we benched together. He had brought his cruise dose to TRT after the accident. As soon as he could walk again he started eating steak and rice 4x a day and bumped his test to 500/wk. In the next 2-3 months he benched a lifetime PR of 465 and looked more jacked than I’d ever seen his upper body.

It’s not magic; it’s just consistency in quality fuel sources. That’s gonna vary for the individual. But studies have shown that the greater your variety in diet the more you crave variety, which promotes a lack of adherence. So the more you can stick to what works for you and meets nutritional needs, the more consistently you can progress.

 

[MrKleen73]

Years back I was told by this huge fat natural guy that if I want to be as strong as possible I need to stick to red meat and potatoes. He was a SHW and benched about 550.

Fast forward to a year or so ago and a juicehead powerlifting buddy was in a bad crash and broke one lower leg and tore both hamstrings on impact. After a few weeks of rest I started picking him up (he was in a wheelchair) every week and we benched together. He had brought his cruise dose to TRT after the accident. As soon as he could walk again he started eating steak and rice 4x a day and bumped his test to 500/wk. In the next 2-3 months he benched a lifetime PR of 465 and looked more jacked than I’d ever seen his upper body.

It’s not magic; it’s just consistency in quality fuel sources. That’s gonna vary for the individual. But studies have shown that the greater your variety in diet the more you crave variety, which promotes a lack of adherence. So the more you can stick to what works for you and meets nutritional needs, the more consistently you can progress.

Facts, all facts... it is a lot harder for me to follow a diet that has me eating something different every single meal and day... It just becomes too much, too inconvenient to deal with and doesn't allow for much consistency. I do the best with a pretty set menu with lots of repetitive meals. Adherence is just so much easier for me that way.

 

[Hyde]

Bloods pulled this morning and then had a couple gourmet donuts and some fresh coffee while listening to Brian Shaw’s latest podcast ️

https://youtu.be/3bL9IsNlNMc

Getting ready to go hit some bench press - feeling really good!

 

[Ulfhednar]

Subd!

 

[Hyde]

Subd!

Welcome!

10/20/18

Bench
45,95x8
145,185x4
235x2
260,265,270,275x4

Incline DB Fly
50 3x12

DB Bench
90x8
80 2x10

Cable Flyes
33,27,22x12

Machine Press
80/side 4x12

Laying Rolling Ez Bar Tri Ext
87.5 3x10

Reverse Grip Cable Tri Ext
70 2x12
80 2x12

Triangle Cable Tri Pressdown ss w/ Push-ups
12 each x4 rounds, 30 sec rest between supersets

Man it felt good to bench 275x4 again - I think my bench is probably sitting around 308-315, and coming back up. I really had to back off of it for a while to get my static overhead up, and honestly lost interest in the lift - but lately I have had the hunger again!

 

[Hyde]

10/21/18

Axle Continental Clean & Press away
70,120,170x5
200x3
210x2
220x2

Axle Continental Clean
180x5
190x5

Went to a different gym with the old training crew. They hit some circus db as 2 are doing it at Nationals this coming weekend, & I worked on my axle clean as I may do a little show in a few weeks that has max axle event - and you can’t press something if you can’t clean it after all. Really glad I came as the last set of cleans really started to feel confident finally.

 

[Ulfhednar]

10/21/18

Axle Continental Clean & Press away
70,120,170x5
200x3
210x2
220x2

Axle Continental Clean
180x5
190x5

Went to a different gym with the old training crew. They hit some circus db as 2 are doing it at Nationals this coming weekend, & I worked on my axle clean as I may do a little show in a few weeks that has max axle event - and you can’t press something if you can’t clean it after all. Really glad I came as the last set of cleans really started to feel confident finally.

Im curious as to how those axle cleans looked like!

 

[Hyde]

Im curious as to how those axle cleans looked like!

This is from a few months back, but this shows how you catch the first pull on your belly, then start a second pull where you rotate the elbows under and catch it in a tall rack position:

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[Ulfhednar]

This is from a few months back, but this shows how you catch the first pull on your belly, then start a second pull where you rotate the elbows under and catch it in a tall rack position:

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Nice! I cant imagine having that weight just chilling on me like that lol it would break me. I'd like to try those one day!

 

[Hyde]

Nice! I cant imagine having that weight just chilling on me like that lol it would break me. I'd like to try those one day!

The guys I train with all pressed a 200lb db with one arm today for at least 2 reps each lol - your human potential is much greater than you realize!

 

[Ulfhednar]

The guys I train with all pressed a 200lb db with one arm today for at least 2 reps each lol - your human potential is much greater than you realize!

Damn thats crazy impressive lol. Youre right though, its minds over matter for sure.

 

[Hyde]

Damn thats crazy impressive lol. Youre right though, its minds over matter for sure.

Definitely. I’m not saying that just because you tell yourself you can squat a grand you can, but if you were ever going to you will NOT do so without believing in your own ability to do something you’ve never done.

Dentist this morning so have to wait til this evening for heavy deadlift! Can’t wait

 

[BennyMagoo79]

Damn thats crazy impressive lol. Youre right though, its minds over matter for sure.

Gravity is just illusion...

 

[Hyde]

10/22/18

Back Extension x30

Deadlift on Powerbar; Hookgrip
135x5
225x3
315,385,455x1
485x4
+straps
495x3

SSB Boxsquat to 19” Highbox
+vs Light Bands
242 2x3
332 4x3
362,382,402x2

10 Sec DOH Holds on Powerbar
335,345

GHR
vs Light Band
4x12

Rotated the SSB Highbox in place of SSB GMs to try to build some absolute bracing strength and get used to staying upright under heavier load - definitely tough despite a very high squat. If I can progress them I think it will transfer to my max squat, deadlift, & heavier yoke carries.

My 1RM deadlift is probably sitting around 550-560 based on calculation, so I think I’ve made a good 10lbs progress since end of cycle in July. I find calculators to be very accurate for my bench and deadlift, and I typically can max squat more than the estimation.

 

[Hyde]

Also got my blood results from 12 weeks of cycle. They look awesome! Essentially the same as pre-cycle in April, with a few important distinctions:

-Total Billirubin was 0.4 lower. I believe staying on 1.2g NAC constantly til a week ago has promoted this.
-Fasting Glucose was 98, up 7 points from 91 in April and 90 in July at end of cycle. So the 2.5mg CJC/dac e6d & 10mg Mk677 nightly protocol this off-cycle must have my IGF-1 sky high, & validates my belief that I am recovering & retaining muscle better than ever while off cycle using these.
-LDL cholesterol is down 26 points from April while good cholesterol is back to the same. I have been eating better overall.
-Total test (850), estro (31), and FSH (4.2) were basically identical, but LH was almost double (7.2 vs 4.0). This has too many loose ends to speculate, such as using Torem through cycle, but I have been off Clomid for 8 weeks so I think this is a real number.

Nov 1st is projected start...

 

[MrKleen73]

Also got my blood results from 12 weeks of cycle. They look awesome! Essentially the same as pre-cycle in April, with a few important distinctions:

-Total Billirubin was 0.4 lower. I believe staying on 1.2g NAC constantly til a week ago has promoted this.
-Fasting Glucose was 98, up 7 points from 91 in April and 90 in July at end of cycle. So the 2.5mg CJC/dac e6d & 10mg Mk677 nightly protocol this off-cycle must have my IGF-1 sky high, & validates my belief that I am recovering & retaining muscle better than ever while off cycle using these.
-LDL cholesterol is down 26 points from April while good cholesterol is back to the same. I have been eating better overall.
-Total test (850), estro (31), and FSH (4.2) were basically identical, but LH was almost double (7.2 vs 4.0). This has too many loose ends to speculate, such as using Torem through cycle, but I have been off Clomid for 8 weeks so I think this is a real number.

Nov 1st is projected start...

Bloods look awesome, but the Fasting glucose of 98 is bordering on Pre Diabetic isn't it? I believe 100-125 is considered prediabetes. However I would think the DAC and MK would be the cause of this.

How does the fasting BG being higher tell you that you are retaining more muscle. I have no doubt that you are. Just trying to understand why having lower insulin sensitivity would be a sign of better recovery and more muscle in this situation.

The only time my fasting BG has been close to 100 is when I was running 30mg of MK677 a day. So it is not surprising but curious on your conclusion based on fasting BG levels.

 

[Hyde]

Bloods look awesome, but the Fasting glucose of 98 is bordering on Pre Diabetic isn't it? I believe 100-125 is considered prediabetes. However I would think the DAC and MK would be the cause of this.

How does the fasting BG being higher tell you that you are retaining more muscle. I have no doubt that you are. Just trying to understand why having lower insulin sensitivity would be a sign of better recovery and more muscle in this situation.

The only time my fasting BG has been close to 100 is when I was running 30mg of MK677 a day. So it is not surprising but curious on your conclusion based on fasting BG levels.

99 is top of healthy range - there’s no potential health consequences til past 120 like you mentioned, but 100-120 is where you need to start changing something to stay under 120.

It’s not telling me I’m retaining more muscle - I am telling you guys I have retained much more muscle. The 9% rise in fasting blood glucose tells me my igf1 levels are significantly elevated by the low dose CJC+MK, which is corroborated by the muscle retention. This going back to most pros blasting gh constantly and becoming diabetic.

 

[Hyde]

10/24/18

10” Rogue Log Strictpress from rack
162x8
167 2x7

Military Press
145 2x8
155 2x8

Pulldowns
150 4x15

Seated DB Laterals
20 2x12

All she wrote. Not exactly a PR kinda day but everything is sore and tired.

 

[BennyMagoo79]

Also got my blood results from 12 weeks of cycle. They look awesome! Essentially the same as pre-cycle in April, with a few important distinctions:

-Total Billirubin was 0.4 lower. I believe staying on 1.2g NAC constantly til a week ago has promoted this.
-Fasting Glucose was 98, up 7 points from 91 in April and 90 in July at end of cycle. So the 2.5mg CJC/dac e6d & 10mg Mk677 nightly protocol this off-cycle must have my IGF-1 sky high, & validates my belief that I am recovering & retaining muscle better than ever while off cycle using these.
-LDL cholesterol is down 26 points from April while good cholesterol is back to the same. I have been eating better overall.
-Total test (850), estro (31), and FSH (4.2) were basically identical, but LH was almost double (7.2 vs 4.0). This has too many loose ends to speculate, such as using Torem through cycle, but I have been off Clomid for 8 weeks so I think this is a real number.

Nov 1st is projected start...

Are you noticing any other effects of elevated IGf?

 

[Hyde]

Are you noticing any other effects of elevated IGf?

My experience pinning 2.5mg of CJC1295 with DAC every 6 nights and 10mg Mk677 nightly has been:
-increased muscle fullness
-faster perceived recovery, both joints & muscles
-increased ability to handle frequency
-greater muscle retention off cycle
-the ability to sleep in longer and get more out of sleep cycles

All of these kinda go hand in hand - am I retaining muscle better because IGF-1 is higher or because I can train harder more often because I recover better? Who can say.

I am really glad I did this. I will take bloods after next gear cycle (where I won’t be using these) and if blood glucose isn’t back around 90 then I won’t use it next off-time, but it’s a great tool to have in the arsenal.

*did NOT notice an appreciable amount of water retention at all. Maybe 2 lbs.

 

[Hyde]

10 WEEK KITCHEN SINK

Compound - Day - Dose + Duration

M1T 1-20 (15mg 7, 22.5mg 13)
LGD 1-70 (12mg 55, 16mg 15)
Andro Bulk 8-70 (6 caps)
EpiAndro 11-40 (500mg)
1-Andro 21-70 (330mg)
Liquid “Var” 21-70 (50mg)
Rad 26-70 (10mg)
4–Andro 41-70 (300mg)
Pheraplex 41-70 (30mg 20, 40mg 10)

Toremifene 60mg daily
Exemestane 12.5mg eod or as needed
Ralox as needed

TUDCA, NAC, ALA, Celery Seed Extract, Nattokinase, B5, L-Carnitine added in addition to usual supps (D3, E, K2, Oximega Fish Oil & Greens, Orange Triad, Calcium, Potassium, Magnesium, Sodium)



Winter is coming...

 

[hairygrandpa]

10 WEEK KITCHEN SINK

Compound - Day - Dose + Duration

M1T 1-20 (15mg 7, 22.5mg 13)
LGD 1-70 (12mg 55, 16mg 15)
Andro Bulk 8-70 (6 caps)
EpiAndro 11-40 (500mg)
1-Andro 21-70 (330mg)
Liquid “Var” 21-70 (50mg)
Rad 26-70 (10mg)
4–Andro 41-70 (300mg)
Pheraplex 41-70 (30mg 20, 40mg 10)

Toremifene 60mg daily
Exemestane 12.5mg eod or as needed
Ralox as needed

TUDCA, NAC, ALA, Celery Seed Extract, Nattokinase, B5, L-Carnitine added in addition to usual supps (D3, E, K2, Oximega Fish Oil & Greens, Orange Triad, Calcium, Potassium, Magnesium, Sodium)



Winter is coming...

Holy sh1t! All those andros must have cost you the equivalent of a small car. Interesting to see if the epiandro/4-andro and torem will suffice as a test base.

Let the gains begin!

 

[SkRaw85]

Party time!

 

[MrKleen73]

99 is top of healthy range - there’s no potential health consequences til past 120 like you mentioned, but 100-120 is where you need to start changing something to stay under 120.

It’s not telling me I’m retaining more muscle - I am telling you guys I have retained much more muscle. The 9% rise in fasting blood glucose tells me my igf1 levels are significantly elevated by the low dose CJC+MK, which is corroborated by the muscle retention. This going back to most pros blasting gh constantly and becoming diabetic.

Oh okay, that makes sense. I misread it that some how you were seeing the increased fasting BG as a marker stating you were recovering better and retaining more mass. I do find it odd that the higher IGF-1 levels result in lower insulin sensitivity though. I know consistently elevated GH does this. I have not actually looked into the MOA. I guess consistently higher levels of IGF-1 could down regulate the insulin receptors, but I imagine there is probably more to it.

Do you happen to know? Have you actually taken the time to research that aspect? I haven't... YET!

My experience pinning 2.5mg of CJC1295 with DAC every 6 nights and 10mg Mk677 nightly has been:
-increased muscle fullness
-faster perceived recovery, both joints & muscles
-increased ability to handle frequency
-greater muscle retention off cycle
-the ability to sleep in longer and get more out of sleep cycles

All of these kinda go hand in hand - am I retaining muscle better because IGF-1 is higher or because I can train harder more often because I recover better? Who can say.

I am really glad I did this. I will take bloods after next gear cycle (where I won’t be using these) and if blood glucose isn’t back around 90 then I won’t use it next off-time, but it’s a great tool to have in the arsenal.

*did NOT notice an appreciable amount of water retention at all. Maybe 2 lbs.

These were my experiences as well as faster fat loss. However I did hold more water on the MK but I ran it 3 times higher. I didn't get any bloating from CJC w DAC though. Loved that stuff!!!!

10 WEEK KITCHEN SINK

Compound - Day - Dose + Duration

M1T 1-20 (15mg 7, 22.5mg 13)
LGD 1-70 (12mg 55, 16mg 15)
Andro Bulk 8-70 (6 caps)
EpiAndro 11-40 (500mg)
1-Andro 21-70 (330mg)
Liquid “Var” 21-70 (50mg)
Rad 26-70 (10mg)
4–Andro 41-70 (300mg)
Pheraplex 41-70 (30mg 20, 40mg 10)

Toremifene 60mg daily
Exemestane 12.5mg eod or as needed
Ralox as needed

TUDCA, NAC, ALA, Celery Seed Extract, Nattokinase, B5, L-Carnitine added in addition to usual supps (D3, E, K2, Oximega Fish Oil & Greens, Orange Triad, Calcium, Potassium, Magnesium, Sodium)



Winter is coming...

I am so jealous right now... I wish I had a run of VAR and HGH to hop on to help get some of these stupid aches and pains to heal...

 

[Hyde]

Holy sh1t! All those andros must have cost you the equivalent of a small car. Interesting to see if the epiandro/4-andro and torem will suffice as a test base.

Let the gains begin!

Nahhh, got em for pennies - literally all the andros averaged $20/bottle! The Supplement Auction section is something worth watching - sometimes people just wanna get rid of stuff.

The bulk up is 4andro and Androsterone, and epi Andro in first half with Radarine and extra 4andro in the second half. Plus the Desoxymethyltest - all of that should keep me feeling good enough. The actual bulking with be handled by the LGD + 1-Test supps + Var + Phera.

I do find it odd that the higher IGF-1 levels result in lower insulin sensitivity though. I know consistently elevated GH does this. I have not actually looked into the MOA. I guess consistently higher levels of IGF-1 could down regulate the insulin receptors, but I imagine there is probably more to it.

Do you happen to know? Have you actually taken the time to research that aspect? I haven't... YET!


I am so jealous right now... I wish I had a run of VAR and HGH to hop on to help get some of these stupid aches and pains to heal...

I do NOT know why IGF-1 & GH down-regulates insulin sensitivity. Bro-postulation: elevating GH raises IGF-1, and perhaps INSULIN-Like Growth Factor-1 presence jades receptors in the same way insulin does?

CJC, Mk, & legit Var would probably be about $100/month. The Liquid Var I’m gonna use definitely isn’t real var, or its way underdosed, but the lady isn’t going to use it anymore - so I’m gonna! Probably low dose ostarine lol

 

[Ulfhednar]

10 WEEK KITCHEN SINK

Compound - Day - Dose + Duration

M1T 1-20 (15mg 7, 22.5mg 13)
LGD 1-70 (12mg 55, 16mg 15)
Andro Bulk 8-70 (6 caps)
EpiAndro 11-40 (500mg)
1-Andro 21-70 (330mg)
Liquid “Var” 21-70 (50mg)
Rad 26-70 (10mg)
4–Andro 41-70 (300mg)
Pheraplex 41-70 (30mg 20, 40mg 10)

Toremifene 60mg daily
Exemestane 12.5mg eod or as needed
Ralox as needed

TUDCA, NAC, ALA, Celery Seed Extract, Nattokinase, B5, L-Carnitine added in addition to usual supps (D3, E, K2, Oximega Fish Oil & Greens, Orange Triad, Calcium, Potassium, Magnesium, Sodium)



Winter is coming...

Nice! I look foward to seeing your gainz fron this!

 

[BennyMagoo79]

10 WEEK KITCHEN SINK

Compound - Day - Dose + Duration

M1T 1-20 (15mg 7, 22.5mg 13)
LGD 1-70 (12mg 55, 16mg 15)
Andro Bulk 8-70 (6 caps)
EpiAndro 11-40 (500mg)
1-Andro 21-70 (330mg)
Liquid “Var” 21-70 (50mg)
Rad 26-70 (10mg)
4–Andro 41-70 (300mg)
Pheraplex 41-70 (30mg 20, 40mg 10)

Toremifene 60mg daily
Exemestane 12.5mg eod or as needed
Ralox as needed

TUDCA, NAC, ALA, Celery Seed Extract, Nattokinase, B5, L-Carnitine added in addition to usual supps (D3, E, K2, Oximega Fish Oil & Greens, Orange Triad, Calcium, Potassium, Magnesium, Sodium)



Winter is coming...

This is going to be interesting!

 

[Hyde]

This is going to be interesting!

Yep, if the lethargy doesn’t kill me lol. Not locked on a number, but I’d like to see 250lb bodyweight - that would be a ~10% increase from my current 228.0 this morning. 13 weeks off today - Monday the fun begins!

 

[Hyde]

10/25/18

Squat, beltless
45 3x5
135,225x5
275x3
325 3x8

Glute Bridges
205 3x12

Machine Legpress
360x12
400 (stack) 4x8

Seated Leg Curl
120 2x12

Took forever to recover between the 8s on squat, but the actual sets felt really easy, RPE 6. Knee had a bad feeling on third set of leg curls so I chose to live to fight another day and packed it up.

 

[Hyde]

10/26/18

Bench
9,000 warmups & stretches
275 2x3
280 2x3 RPE10

Low Incline DB
80 2x12
90x12

DB Flyes
50,55,60x12

Cable Flyes ss w/ Cable Tri Pressdown
27.5 / 130 4x12 each

Pull-Ups
3x6

Damn if my shoulders, biceps and forearms weren’t a hot mess today. Did get some good bench numbers knocked out though so I’m not complaining - got to do what I love!

 

[tyga tyga]

9,000 warmups ?

 

[hairygrandpa]

10/26/18

Bench
9,000 warmups & stretches
275 2x3
280 2x3 RPE10

Low Incline DB
80 2x12
90x12

DB Flyes
50,55,60x12

Cable Flyes ss w/ Cable Tri Pressdown
27.5 / 130 4x12 each

Pull-Ups
3x6

Damn if my shoulders, biceps and forearms weren’t a hot mess today. Did get some good bench numbers knocked out though so I’m not complaining - got to do what I love!

Your DB flies are heavy as fugg... ! I do them with 40's. One moment, something is itching...ah, its my vagina.

 

[hairygrandpa]

Well -but your pull up game sucks bad.

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[Hyde]

Your DB flies are heavy as fugg... ! I do them with 40's. One moment, something is itching...ah, its my vagina.

I thought mine were weak!

Well -but your pull up game sucks bad.

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It really does. And I thought my forearms/biceps were going to rip off too. Only reason I got what I did was because I thought of you, seriously! Chin-ups can get very strong for me (weird cuz I have some weak biceps) but pull-ups were always hard even when I was 190. Gaining back up to 227 these last few weeks hasn’t done me any favors either.

 

[Hyde]

Don’t want to imagine the full retail on this, but lucky for me that’s not how I acquired it all...

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Operation 250 - LET’S F*CKIN’ GOOOO!!!

 

[BennyMagoo79]

Don’t want to imagine the full retail on this, but lucky for me that’s not how I acquired it all...

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Operation 250 - LET’S F*CKIN’ GOOOO!!!

Lol I'd have trouble remembering which ones I am supposed to take and whether I have actually taken them!

 

[Ulfhednar]

Lol I'd have trouble remembering which ones I am supposed to take and whether I have actually taken them!

Right? Lol, a legitimate schedule is needed for that amount of caps he's taking.

 

[Hyde]

Right? Lol, a legitimate schedule is needed for that amount of caps he's taking.

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Always schedule your drugs, even if the feds haven’t

 

[Ulfhednar]

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Always schedule your drugs, even if the feds haven’t

Lmao thats right for sure, i was curious as to if you adhere to the half life for the compounds? I know at that point it get a little OCD lol but im sure its useful, but i cpuld be wrong.

 

[SkRaw85]

 

[Hyde]

DAY 1 of OPERATION 250

10/29/18

Back Extensions

Powerbar Deadlifts; Hookgrip
135,225,275x5
315 2x3
355 5x2

+70 chain (links off floor at top, straps)
355 2x3

Powerbar DOH Holds
355,365 x10 sec each

Snatchgrip Seal Rows
135x12
155 3x10

1-Arm DB Rows
100 4x10

Average Band Rows from high attachment
4x12

ss w/
Light Band Curls from high attachment
4x10 SQUEEEEEEZE

Pull-ups
2x7

Speed day. Started M1T & LGD. Training buddy turned Pro in the 231 weightclass by winning the middleweights at Strongman Corporation Nationals this weekend. My other friend took 4th in heavyweight so I believe he’ll be invited to compete in the Arnold Amateur World Championship, so it was an exciting time.

 

[Hyde]

Lmao thats right for sure, i was curious as to if you adhere to the half life for the compounds? I know at that point it get a little OCD lol but im sure its useful, but i cpuld be wrong.

Kinda, but most important is being able to go to sleep or have energy when needed. The M1T & LGD will be taken in 2 doses, one with first meal/pre-training and another about 10 hours later. Drugs never taken with a high-fiber meal and any andros will always have some fats present.