Swim's cut

[swimfan65]

Side note...I freaking love Tren. First day...alpha male all day.

 

[HIT4ME]

Just finished working out. Definitely running on fumes. Had a protein shake and ground beef in a wheat tortilla so far today. Shaking like a leaf...need some calories. 319 after workout. However, my gym has no air and it's probably 100 in here....so likely lost a lot of water.

How much weight do you think you need to lose again?

It's good to make sure you get enough potassium, salt and magnesium during your diet. The potassium and salt can actually be handled pretty inexpensively if you get Morton's light salt in the supper market. It's an almost 50/50 sodium/potassium mix. I actually put a half t-spoon in a gallon of water with Crystal Light and Vitamin C and that gives me a about 500-600 mg of each per day right there.

Also, Whisky gave me the genius idea to BAKE my broccoli. Game. Changer. Like he said, it isn't cake, but it's way better than steamed. I put it in a pan and I use some non-stick olive oil spray from Aldis (it's pretty much aerosol olive oil) and lightly spray the top...ok, sometimes heavily spray the top. Then I use some garlic, the light salt and pepper and bake it at around 425 for 20 minutes. I'm sure everyone on here does it...but it's new to me

 

[swimfan65]

How much weight do you think you need to lose again?

It's good to make sure you get enough potassium, salt and magnesium during your diet. The potassium and salt can actually be handled pretty inexpensively if you get Morton's light salt in the supper market. It's an almost 50/50 sodium/potassium mix. I actually put a half t-spoon in a gallon of water with Crystal Light and Vitamin C and that gives me a about 500-600 mg of each per day right there.

Also, Whisky gave me the genius idea to BAKE my broccoli. Game. Changer. Like he said, it isn't cake, but it's way better than steamed. I put it in a pan and I use some non-stick olive oil spray from Aldis (it's pretty much aerosol olive oil) and lightly spray the top...ok, sometimes heavily spray the top. Then I use some garlic, the light salt and pepper and bake it at around 425 for 20 minutes. I'm sure everyone on here does it...but it's new to me

I don't know how much weight really. I have a ton of muscle on me from years of gear and heavy lifting, I'm just gonna strip away the fat...not sure how much in pounds. I'm going by the mirror

 

[Matthersby]

I don't know how much weight really. I have a ton of muscle on me from years of gear and heavy lifting, I'm just gonna strip away the fat...not sure how much in pounds. I'm going by the mirror

Exactly ^
Psyched to see where you end up.

 

[swimfan65]

Dinner. Half cup rice. Pound of chicken breast. 6 whole eggs. Half gallon of water. Maybe some oats for a snack later.

 

[DemntedCowboy]

Dinner. Half cup rice. Pound of chicken breast. 6 whole eggs. Half gallon of water. Maybe some oats for a snack later.

Thats a big chicken. Lol

 

[JoePaul39]

Dinner. Half cup rice. Pound of chicken breast. 6 whole eggs. Half gallon of water. Maybe some oats for a snack later.

Excited to follow along on your journey! What macros are you following for this cut?

 

[adammorrow36]

Hey im late to the party. But here now het it bro !

 

[DemntedCowboy]

Excited to follow along on your journey! What macros are you following for this cut?

Hey im late to the party. But here now het it bro !

Added both of y'all to the list for future reference

 

[swimfan65]

Excited to follow along on your journey! What macros are you following for this cut?

Not really following anything right now. Low cals, low carbs, no sugar, low fats. Weight is flying off. Towards the end I might start keeping track...no need to right now.

 

[swimfan65]

Tonight I will see how hard the trensomina hits. That's the only side I hate...the rest I can deal with. But I hate not sleeping.

 

[Matthersby]

Added both of y'all to the list for future reference

Me toooooo!!

 

[adammorrow36]

Tonight I will see how hard the trensomina hits. That's the only side I hate...the rest I can deal with. But I hate not sleeping.

Man im on day 3 and i swear it started on day 2 thats all for sides so far but man it sucks. Not geting the sweats yet but am geting hot.

 

[DemntedCowboy]

Me toooooo!!

Got you

 

[christ83189]

Tonight I will see how hard the trensomina hits. That's the only side I hate...the rest I can deal with. But I hate not sleeping.

I cant wait to run tren but not looking forward to that. I really really really value my sleep lol

 

[Jakeoh]

I'm in

 

[Slapoyjoe]

Man im on day 3 and i swear it started on day 2 thats all for sides so far but man it sucks. Not geting the sweats yet but am geting hot.

I’ve got a friend who swears by Mk-677 in this situation. Says his sleep is much improved

 

[mikeymike85]

On a side note to T3 - I currently take T4 at 100mcg. Does T4 help in regards to bodybuilding, cutting...etc? I know t3 does but never see anything about t4

 

[adammorrow36]

I’ve got a friend who swears by Mk-677 in this situation. Says his sleep is much improved

Ya I've ran it be for but never with tren might give it a go thanks

 

[Matthersby]

Ya I've ran it be for but never with tren might give it a go thanks

My NPP started kicking in yesterday and I was up an extra 2 hours. We need another sleep thread. I’m on 5 hours which sucks bad. Anyone try the sleep inducing peptide or any other methods? I took 2 Benadryl and 1300 mg gabapentin and was up another 4 hours past that.

 

[Whisky]

My NPP started kicking in yesterday and I was up an extra 2 hours. We need another sleep thread. I’m on 5 hours which sucks bad. Anyone try the sleep inducing peptide or any other methods? I took 2 Benadryl and 1300 mg gabapentin and was up another 4 hours past that.

I appreciate this’ll make me sound like a fairy but anyone ever tried meditation before bed for sleep?

Honestly some of the best sleep I’ve had was when I used headspace for 15 mins in bed at night. Did it for about 6 months and then just got out the habit, I actually fell asleep while meditating more than once.

I wasn’t cycling at that time though so no idea if it would work in conjunction with aas......

 

[Matthersby]

I appreciate this’ll make me sound like a fairy but anyone ever tried meditation before bed for sleep?

Honestly some of the best sleep I’ve had was when I used headspace for 15 mins in bed at night. Did it for about 6 months and then just got out the habit, I actually fell asleep while meditating more than once.

I wasn’t cycling at that time though so no idea if it would work in conjunction with aas......

Naw, makes you seem like just the opposite. Someone who doesn’t gaf and isn’t concerned with what’s considered macho, tough or manly. F all that insecure shyt.

 

[HIT4ME]

On a side note to T3 - I currently take T4 at 100mcg. Does T4 help in regards to bodybuilding, cutting...etc? I know t3 does but never see anything about t4

In really lay terms - T4 is to T3 what Androstendione is to Testosterone. T4 is the prohoromone, in a way, to T3. T3 is much more active for accelerating the metabolism. T4, however, does have some functions of its own. It can be beneficial for bodybuilding and medically over T3, but if you're a normal healthy person without thyroid issues to begin with, it is generally accepted that T3 will have much more of an effect for cutting.

 

[mikeymike85]

In really lay terms - T4 is to T3 what Androstendione is to Testosterone. T4 is the prohoromone, in a way, to T3. T3 is much more active for accelerating the metabolism. T4, however, does have some functions of its own. It can be beneficial for bodybuilding and medically over T3, but if you're a normal healthy person without thyroid issues to begin with, it is generally accepted that T3 will have much more of an effect for cutting.

Right on- appreciate your knowledge. In your expertise, (bear in mind I do have hypo) -- I've noticed that when I switched from traditional Levo, to a new capsule called Tirosint (which is pure T4 without filler/binder) - I started to loose weight quicker/metabolism sped up. Is being on this (besides for normal thyroid regulation) any benefit to me in a bodybuilding standpoint?

 

[Matthersby]

Right on- appreciate your knowledge. In your expertise, (bear in mind I do have hypo) -- I've noticed that when I switched from traditional Levo, to a new capsule called Tirosint (which is pure T4 without filler/binder) - I started to loose weight quicker/metabolism sped up. Is being on this (besides for normal thyroid regulation) any benefit to me in a bodybuilding standpoint?

PM fueledpassion
He’s got boatloads of info on t3/t4 and some interesting perspectives on both.

 

[Whisky]

Naw, makes you seem like just the opposite. Someone who doesn’t gaf and isn’t concerned with what’s considered macho, tough or manly. F all that insecure shyt.

Lol, yeah to be honest I’m about what makes me feel good rather than what what other people think. Life’s way too short to spend it now doing the sh1te you wanna do

 

[hairygrandpa]

Lol, yeah to be honest I’m about what makes me feel good rather than what what other people think. Life’s way too short to spend it now doing the sh1te you wanna do

Honestly, for me it goes both ways. Want to feel better -but also want to intimidate others who think all grandpa's are frail -hunched forward suckers.

 

[Brienn8989]

My NPP started kicking in yesterday and I was up an extra 2 hours. We need another sleep thread. I’m on 5 hours which sucks bad. Anyone try the sleep inducing peptide or any other methods? I took 2 Benadryl and 1300 mg gabapentin and was up another 4 hours past that.

I ordered a gram of a 50x kratom/cbd extract, took half of it and I was pretty much drooling on myself after an hour.

 

[Matthersby]

Honestly, for me it goes both ways. Want to feel better -but also want to intimidate others who think all grandpa's are frail -hunched forward suckers.

I actually literally hate everyone and their perceptions of age, men, or anything for that matter. That’s why I could care less to impress them or try to adhere to social standards for men my age.

Guys start small talking me about football, so I just give a blank stare and start talking about pro skateboarding and bodybuilding. Get the same blank stare right back.

I like what I like and I’ve never felt the need to try to fit in with people.

HG, I have a hard time going to my own gym, there’s these 19 year old 120 lb kids with newbie gains strutting around and mean mugging guys my size. Slamming 135lb deadlifts like they’re Hercules. I can’t believe I haven’t killed anyone their yet.

 

[hairygrandpa]

I actually literally hate everyone and their perceptions of age, men, or anything for that matter. That’s why I could care less to impress them or try to adhere to social standards for men my age.

Guys start small talking me about football, so I just give a blank stare and start talking about pro skateboarding and bodybuilding. Get the same blank stare right back.

I like what I like and I’ve never felt the need to try to fit in with people.

HG, I have a hard time going to my own gym, there’s these 19 year old 120 lb kids with newbie gains strutting around and mean mugging guys my size. Slamming 135lb deadlifts like they’re Hercules. I can’t believe I haven’t killed anyone their yet.

Well, its not only to impress other guys of my age, it's to humiliate them. They run to the doc because of a pimple, taking 20 different meds for failing health issues, then comes HGP along, just finished his weighted pull ups and deadlifts, curing his aching joints by pinning research peptides and having a tan from melanotan in mid winter. Take that, half-dead zombies!

 

[swimfan65]

I actually literally hate everyone and their perceptions of age, men, or anything for that matter. That’s why I could care less to impress them or try to adhere to social standards for men my age.

Guys start small talking me about football, so I just give a blank stare and start talking about pro skateboarding and bodybuilding. Get the same blank stare right back.

I like what I like and I’ve never felt the need to try to fit in with people.

HG, I have a hard time going to my own gym, there’s these 19 year old 120 lb kids with newbie gains strutting around and mean mugging guys my size. Slamming 135lb deadlifts like they’re Hercules. I can’t believe I haven’t killed anyone their yet.

Ha...love it!

 

[DemntedCowboy]

I actually literally hate everyone and their perceptions of age, men, or anything for that matter. That’s why I could care less to impress them or try to adhere to social standards for men my age.

Guys start small talking me about football, so I just give a blank stare and start talking about pro skateboarding and bodybuilding. Get the same blank stare right back.

I like what I like and I’ve never felt the need to try to fit in with people.

HG, I have a hard time going to my own gym, there’s these 19 year old 120 lb kids with newbie gains strutting around and mean mugging guys my size. Slamming 135lb deadlifts like they’re Hercules. I can’t believe I haven’t killed anyone their yet.

Just throw a 45 at their head from across the gym. Lol

 

[swimfan65]

Today was my off day at the gym. Was very hungry all day but stayed clean. My phone crapped the bed and had to buy a new one. The phone dude was an idiot and im on Tren...almost made the 6 o'clock news boys. Weight stayed at 319 all day. Body temp is through the roof. Tomorrow is push day at the gym. Sleep last night wasnt too bad...had some lethargy this afternoon..but not bad. Im going to go heavy on bench tomorrow...let ya know how i do. Food today was ground beef eggs cucumbers cheese two slices of bread and ill probably have some oats before bed.

 

[DemntedCowboy]

Today was my off day at the gym. Was very hungry all day but stayed clean. My phone crapped the bed and had to buy a new one. The phone dude was an idiot and im on Tren...almost made the 6 o'clock news boys. Weight stayed at 319 all day. Body temp is through the roof. Tomorrow is push day at the gym. Sleep last night wasnt too bad...had some lethargy this afternoon..but not bad. Im going to go heavy on bench tomorrow...let ya know how i do. Food today was ground beef eggs cucumbers cheese two slices of bread and ill probably have some oats before bed.

Cant wait to jump on Tren in January but mine is oral tren

 

[HIT4ME]

Right on- appreciate your knowledge. In your expertise, (bear in mind I do have hypo) -- I've noticed that when I switched from traditional Levo, to a new capsule called Tirosint (which is pure T4 without filler/binder) - I started to loose weight quicker/metabolism sped up. Is being on this (besides for normal thyroid regulation) any benefit to me in a bodybuilding standpoint?

So Tirosint seems to just be a T4 formulation with fewer additives.

If you are hypo, getting your thyroid hormones up should really help with weight loss.

I have read a lot of different things about different formulations of thyroid hormones. Even amongst pharmaceutical grade products, for instance, different T3 medicines have been reported to have different potencies amongst people using them (this includes reports from people taking it medically). For instance, Pfizer's Cytomel seems to be considered to be very potent with a lot of people having to take much more Tiromel (foreign T3) for a similar effect. I wonder if you just had the same effect with Tirosint - this formulation .at be .ore effective for you.

Lol, yeah to be honest I’m about what makes me feel good rather than what what other people think. Life’s way too short to spend it now doing the sh1te you wanna do

I pretty much agree with this. I figure...a real man just does whatever the fuark he wants to do.

 

[swimfan65]

Cant wait to jump on Tren in January but mine is oral tren

So is mine. I wanted to have a better control of the sides. Will be watching liver enzymes closely with my doc. But i ran anadrol for 4 months and my enzymes didnt budge.

 

[DemntedCowboy]

So is mine. I wanted to have a better control of the sides. Will be watching liver enzymes closely with my doc. But i ran anadrol for 4 months and my enzymes didnt budge.

Yeah I ran Abombs for 4 weeks but not 4 months

 

[Matthersby]

So is mine. I wanted to have a better control of the sides. Will be watching liver enzymes closely with my doc. But i ran anadrol for 4 months and my enzymes didnt budge.

My liver enzymes get skewed but rarely go out of range.
Are you Irish? We have bionic livers.

 

[swimfan65]

My liver enzymes get skewed but rarely go out of range.
Are you Irish? We have bionic livers.

Yes i have some Irish. And at one point in my life i was drinking a case a beer a day..lol

 

[DemntedCowboy]

I got Scottish and German....I'm surprised I wasnt born with cirrhosis. Lol

 

[swimfan65]

Breakfast...protein shake
Lunch...protein bar

Headed to the gym...feeling a little weak and light headed from lack of cals.

Side note...tren had me pounding my girl out all night...lol

 

[Cgkone]

Before pics mandatory to appreciate the changes.

He's massive

 

[swimfan65]

Bench workout

135....bunch of sets to warm up
225...15
315....15
405.....10
495....5
495....3
405....to failure
315...to failure
315...to failure
225...to failure
225...to failure
225...to failure
135....to failure

So hungry!

 

[mixedup]

Cant wait to jump on Tren in January but mine is oral tren

Which tren the designer or real oral tren one is alot harsher and is run in mcg the other is nice I like 90-120mg

 

[HIT4ME]

Bench workout

135....bunch of sets to warm up
225...15
315....15
405.....10
495....5
495....3
405....to failure
315...to failure
315...to failure
225...to failure
225...to failure
225...to failure
135....to failure

So hungry!

Ok, show of hands, how many people here can bench press 405 X 1?

Both my hands are firmly at my keyboard...who else?

 

[DemntedCowboy]

Which tren the designer or real oral tren one is alot harsher and is run in mcg the other is nice I like 90-120mg

DP and is in 250mcg

 

[christ83189]

Ok, show of hands, how many people here can bench press 405 X 1?

Both my hands are firmly at my keyboard...who else?

Pretty soon ill be able to raise my hand for that one. Not at this point in time though

 

[Matthersby]

Barely can do 305. Guys a beast.

 

[swimfan65]

Height 6'6
Starting weight 358
Current weight 318

Current pic

 

[jackedviking]

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