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I tried the original back when the hype train hadn't left the station. Didn't respond to it at all and went back to Jack3d. I wonder if I've got a real case of ADHD or something that prevented it from doing anything for me.
Certain batches weren't spiked! There were threads telling peoplele which batch were spiked, so they could buy from that batch. Hahahahahahahaha

Also I agree with you I didn't notice much. However, I fuking love 1,3dim. I've tried ever stim, including prescriptions, and NOTHING compares to 1,3dim for me
 

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Certain batches weren't spiked! There were threads telling peoplele which batch were spiked, so they could buy from that batch. Hahahahahahahaha

Also I agree with you I didn't notice much. However, I fuking love 1,3dim. I've tried ever stim, including prescriptions, and NOTHING compares to 1,3dim for me
I had tried Craze a few times and this is way before they started coming out with the secondary flavors. So I really just think I was a non responder.

As for them releasing the OG Craze, I'm not quite sure how they are going to do it. The whole problem with the original is that Cahill was having a synthetic compound, that wasn't found in nature, created in China.

I'm assuming the new operating procedure in crazy synthetic stims is to sell them until the FDA chases you down, and then fight it in long draw out court proceedings so that you can continue to make money until they eventually come and seize your raws.
 

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If I remember correctly it was here in Sweden the hunt on OG Craze began back in the days.
There was some idiot who did double dose the first time he tried it and he got heart race and cried out in media how dangerous Craze was.
But this is odd, the Swedish Police brought in Craze tubes and tested it in the Forensic Center but they did not found anything in it that were close to meth.
 

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I’m one of those people that didn’t like 1,3dim... Great energy during my workout but the crash afterwards would leave me almost useless for the rest of the day. I’d be absolutely exhausted, and almost struggling to breath and the whole time wondering what was wrong with me. I don’t miss that stuff at all.
 
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If I remember correctly it was here in Sweden the hunt on OG Craze began back in the days.
There was some idiot who did double dose the first time he tried it and he got heart race and cried out in media how dangerous Craze was.
But this is odd, the Swedish Police brought in Craze tubes and tested it in the Forensic Center but they did not found anything in it that were close to meth.
They found amphetamine derrivatives
 

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They found amphetamine derrivatives
It was very unclear, they said it could convert to a Amphetamine like drug
in the body but the Swedish authority for Food and health blamed the Dendrobium and later they blamed the combination of Dendro and Fenyletylamine and it was this combo that caused the conversation to an Amphetamine like drug in the body.
 
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I think this was before I discovered PWO's
 
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Might as well just get adderall and take it with your pre of choice if that's what you're looking for lol.

Jeff sent me a scoop or 2 and it didn't do a thing for me. May have been an unspiked batch, but it was the OG grape and I thought it was from that same run.

I have no interest in trying something that was labeled incorrectly the last time around.
 
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C4 has come a long way since there original formula. I know it’s the ultimate version but good for them
 
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I am serious. Never felt like i got any benefit from mono but tried their CN3 recently and notice a nice boost from it.
Then that’s just the benefits of nitrates, and any form of nitrate will do the job if dosed right. If I recall, some studies show that Creatine nitrate isn’t ideal for Creatine loafing though, something like that. The benefit is the nitrates, of course. Also, that means that Creatine nitrate can have acute benefits, where Creatine itself doesn’t, so that may play a role in your perception of them too.
 

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All i can tell you is ive used creatine on and off for years and was never able to discern any benefit at all. Sure, maybe the benefit im getting now is all from the nitrate and not at all from the creatine. Either way, ill take it.
 

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Watch out for a lawsuit cellucor! Great looking pre, but doubt it will last long. Especially with how lawsuit happy the thermolife is with nitrate bound aminos.
It looks like theyre sourcing the creatine nitrate from TLife, though. No?
 
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It was the exact moment I discovered PWOs... It was literally my first one!

I thought they were all supposed to be like that...haha
Yeah it ruined other pre’s for quite some time
 
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From the looks of the label, theyre using the name TLife patented for creatine nitrate. It would appear to me they are in compliance with the patent.
What about the citrulline? Tlife also owns that
 
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From the looks of the label, theyre using the name TLife patented for creatine nitrate. It would appear to me they are in compliance with the patent.
Also if they are this is going to be a VERY EXPENSIVE pre
 

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Also if they are this is going to be a VERY EXPENSIVE pre
Well CN3 isnt cheap but i like it. I dont think theyd be listing the patented name on the label if they weren authorized. Some underground company might be able to get away with that but Cellucor would have to be pretty dumb to think nobody would notice with them.
 
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Watch out for a lawsuit cellucor! Great looking pre, but doubt it will last long. Especially with how lawsuit happy the thermolife is with nitrate bound aminos.
You know they use it in:
C4
CN3
C4 Ultimate
NO3 Ultimate
C4 Extreme Energy

A billion dollar company is not going to have a problem paying for the nitrate in their product.Cellucor has had it in their products for years. If you think a law suit is happening it would of happened when C4 First launched. You are quick to jump the gun with no backing to your statement.
 
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If I remember correctly it was here in Sweden the hunt on OG Craze began back in the days.
There was some idiot who did double dose the first time he tried it and he got heart race and cried out in media how dangerous Craze was.
But this is odd, the Swedish Police brought in Craze tubes and tested it in the Forensic Center but they did not found anything in it that were close to meth.
It’s because all the flavours and tubs had different amounts of the spiked ETH
 

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C4U is a great pre workout so I’m not shocked they’re building around it.
 

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It was the exact moment I discovered PWOs... It was literally my first one!

I thought they were all supposed to be like that...haha
Oh man, I never experienced Craze but my first pre was OG Jack3d. Took full dose first time in the gym and I’m pretty sure I met god.

I’ve been chasing the dragon ever since.
 

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This should be interesting
haha so obvious they're just trying to lure in all the OG craze customers, have no doubt in my mind it will disappoint and be nothing like the original one.

but fk them anyway ill try it.
 
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I tried the original back when the hype train hadn't left the station. Didn't respond to it at all and went back to Jack3d. I wonder if I've got a real case of ADHD or something that prevented it from doing anything for me.
If you had adhd then an amphetamine analogue should have increased your focus and concentration. Some folks simply take tons of drugs to feel what others do.............or so I hear lol.
 
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I will not use the CRZ. I am not going to reward someone who snuck illegal chemicals into the a supplement. Make no mistake I think nothing should be illegal for personal consumption but selling something with undisclosed ingredients, ya **** you Cahill you are a slime ball.
 
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mod edit: nope



And to answer everyone's questions, its simply a method to try and boost sales rank on amazon which can increase sales overall.
 

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I will not use the CRZ. I am not going to reward someone who snuck illegal chemicals into the a supplement. Make no mistake I think nothing should be illegal for personal consumption but selling something with undisclosed ingredients, ya **** you Cahill you are a slime ball.
Yeah no kidding. I remember when the first DS company was like supp royalty and Cahill was like a demigod. Been away from all this for a while and now hear all these stories. Up there with the guys from AX and the spiked slim xtreme, acting like they had no idea.
 
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I will not use the CRZ. I am not going to reward someone who snuck illegal chemicals into the a supplement. Make no mistake I think nothing should be illegal for personal consumption but selling something with undisclosed ingredients, ya **** you Cahill you are a slime ball.
Yep. There's a huge difference between someone buying/using illegal drugs and someone spiking a product with drugs without their knowledge.
 
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Yep. There's a huge difference between someone buying/using illegal drugs and someone spiking a product with drugs without their knowledge.
exactly... ethics and morals haha
 

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Launching a giveaway for Purus Labs new stimpact tonight on our Modern Athletic Health instagram—go follow so you can enter!

instagram.com/modernathletichealth

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STIMPACT pre workout provides an intense neurological & muscular energy boost StimPact is about sheer speed and power, PERIOD.
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425mg of sustained-release caffeine, theobromine provides lasting energy.
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TeaCrine & Dynamine , along with choline & Huperzine A drive neural focus to keep your attention lasered in and your mind on point during your hardest of workouts.
 
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Launching a giveaway for Purus Labs new stimpact tonight on our Modern Athletic Health instagram—go follow so you can enter!

instagram.com/modernathletichealth

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STIMPACT pre workout provides an intense neurological & muscular energy boost StimPact is about sheer speed and power, PERIOD.
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425mg of sustained-release caffeine, theobromine provides lasting energy.
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TeaCrine & Dynamine , along with choline & Huperzine A drive neural focus to keep your attention lasered in and your mind on point during your hardest of workouts.
Good Deal !!
 
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This is so f'n ridiculous lmao

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holy ****, hardly ever saw such a dangerous, idiotic and retarded „sports supplement“

these guys should go straight into jail. 100% there will get some people hurt with this „sports supplement“.

(or is this a joke, a fake?)
 
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I would say its an agent of natural selection, but with the diffusion of accountability in society these days.. this is just going add more fuel to the fire for the ban bills in Congress.. it's almost like this was made specifically for that purpose..
 

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