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Announcing SNS Higenamine Caps - Energy, Focus, Clarity, Appetite Control, & Fat Loss

Energy, Focus, Clarity, Appetite Control, & Fat Loss!

Extreme Fat Burning & Potent Stimulant Properties Without the Crash!


Higenamine is an exciting ingredient that is highly acclaimed for its positive effects on mental focus, clarity, energy, fat loss, and appetite suppression without the crash feeling that is commonly associated with many popular stimulant and fat burning ingredients.


Higenamine is primarily used for fat burning, appetite suppression, and boosting energy levels and focus during workouts or in day to day life!


Potential Benefits of Higenamine:

Fat Burning

Appetite Control

Mental Focus & Clarity

No ‘Crash’ Feeling

Higenamine has an interesting history in that this exciting ingredient had been quietly working its way into some of the most popular and effective fat loss, energy, and pre-workout products on the market for a while now.


Instead of promoting the benefits of this powerful ingredient, however, it seemed that many brands were including Higenamine in proprietary blends as a way of making people think that their results were dependent upon buying their branded products rather than the more cost effective approach of using just the ingredient itself. Another bad part of brands hiding Higenamine in their proprietary blends is that consumers weren’t able to tell how much Higenamine they were getting.


SNS has changed all that by offering 30 mg Higenamine capsules at a GREAT PRICE!!


This allows you the chance to use and dose Higenamine how you want it, when you want it!


A Quick Higenamine FAQ:


What is Higenamine?

Higenamine is a naturally occurring fat burning stimulant found in a variety of plant species and is most associated with being a member of the Nandina plant family.


What is Higenamine most commonly used for?

Higenamine is most commonly used for fat burning, appetite suppression, boosting energy, and improving mental focus and clarity.


How does Higenamine work?

In simple terms, Higenamine appears to have an affinity for Beta-2 adrenergic receptors, which makes it a popular option for energy and fat burning. It might potentially also work on Beta-3 adrenergic receptors (which means it can potentially burn brown adipose tissue). Since Higenamine works on Beta-2 adrenergic receptors, it has many people excited because this was one of the primary mechanisms of action of Ephedra (and ephedrine)! On top of that, Higenamine also works on alpha-adrenergic receptors, which increases levels of norepinephrine.


A study in human subjects found that acute supplementation of Higenamine stimulated lipolysis, increased energy expenditure (meaning it is thermogenic), resulting in an increasing of circulating free fatty acids, and resulting a caloric deficit in subjects due to Higenamine supplementation. That’s right, a human study. Unlikely many stimulants out there, Higenamine has been studied in humans. No rodents or animal studies here, human studies.


In short, Higenamine not only increases rates of lipolysis, it actually results in a caloric deficit (you lose calories due to Higenamine supplementation).


Stacking & Synergy:


SNS Higenamine caps allow you to use Higenamine when you want to and how you want to (stay within the suggested dosage and read all warnings before using). As powerful as this exciting ingredient is as a stand-alone option, it is very stackable with other SNS products including Focus XT and a wide variety of other SNS products.


SNS Higenamine Caps

Energy, Focus, Clarity, Appetite Control, & Fat Loss

For Less than .35 Cents per Day!
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Another awesome addition to the ever-growing list of high quality, effective ingredients!
 

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I find higenamine to be almost equal to ephedrine hcl on mg to mg basis. With that said DO NOT take to many caps at once!!
 
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I find higenamine to be almost equal to ephedrine hcl on mg to mg basis. With that said DO NOT take to many caps at once!!
I havent tried it solo .. so def will put it to test
 
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I find higenamine to be almost equal to ephedrine hcl on mg to mg basis. With that said DO NOT take to many caps at once!!
wow... thats pretty much the highest praise you can give to any fat burner ingredient haha.
 
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I find higenamine to be almost equal to ephedrine hcl on mg to mg basis. With that said DO NOT take to many caps at once!!
I find this mixed with Yohimbine HCL to be extremely good. I know a lot of people don't like Yohimbine, but this combo I love.

Actually, Synephrine, Yohimbine HCL and Higenamine is my favorite combo right now.
 
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I find this mixed with Yohimbine HCL to be extremely good. I know a lot of people don't like Yohimbine, but this combo I love.

Actually, Synephrine, Yohimbine HCL and Higenamine is my favorite combo right now.
That's prob the cheapest stack you can create too which makes it even better.
 
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I find higenamine to be almost equal to ephedrine hcl on mg to mg basis. With that said DO NOT take to many caps at once!!
I completely agree. I find them results wise almost identical myself.

wow... thats pretty much the highest praise you can give to any fat burner ingredient haha.
The method of action and characteristics are very similar as well.

I find this mixed with Yohimbine HCL to be extremely good. I know a lot of people don't like Yohimbine, but this combo I love.

Actually, Synephrine, Yohimbine HCL and Higenamine is my favorite combo right now.
That’s a great idea for me to see if I can get a retailer to do a stack deal for.
 
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Just a pricing fyi..... 2 - 90 cap bottles listed for 29.99 at first retailer to get it listed!
 
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I find this mixed with Yohimbine HCL to be extremely good. I know a lot of people don't like Yohimbine, but this combo I love.

Actually, Synephrine, Yohimbine HCL and Higenamine is my favorite combo right now.
that looks pretty fun stack
 
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Updated the write up for those who are unfamiliar with this stuff **
 

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Higenamine will make you lose weight like crazy but will certainly affect dopamine levels. So stack with L dopa. Nothing comes without a catch
 

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I find higenamine to be almost equal to ephedrine hcl on mg to mg basis. With that said DO NOT take to many caps at once!!
gotta be some bunk ephedrine..
 
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Higenamine will make you lose weight like crazy but will certainly affect dopamine levels. So stack with L dopa. Nothing comes without a catch
Please don't take me as disagreeing with you, I just want to add something. It's personal choice on whether to add L-Dopa to any stimulant supplements, but I wouldn't say that it is a must for everyone. For example, I myself and a lot of other people notice a very definitive mood increase when using Higenamine and I haven't been using any additional L-Dopa sources. However, I am getting ready to start an M-Test cycle soon which has Mucuna in it and will report back if I observe any change in effect from stacking it with the Higenamine.

gotta be some bunk ephedrine..
I actually agree with the person that posted and said that he found Higenamine to be pretty close to equal to ephedrine on a mg. to mg. basis. SNS just released the product last week but I've said the same thing about Higenamine to people ever since I first tried the ingredient months ago. That doesn't mean that it's going to be that way for everyone, but it definitely for me is the closest thing to Ephedra/Ephedrine I've taken.

For me personally, Ephedra/Ephedrine gave me a smooth feel good energy where I (and people around me) could notice an improvement in my mood whereas some things like DMAA hit me harder but made me anxious, snappy, and not the nicest person to be around.
 

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I find this mixed with Yohimbine HCL to be extremely good. I know a lot of people don't like Yohimbine, but this combo I love.

Actually, Synephrine, Yohimbine HCL and Higenamine is my favorite combo right now.
not directed at my friend above...He's just smart.

Higenamine was terrible when USPlabs introduced it to the market almost SIX years ago.....I think labeled terrible by SNS reps....and now suddenly great similar to Ephedrine...
 
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not directed at my friend above...He's just smart.

Higenamine was terrible when USPlabs introduced it to the market almost SIX years ago.....I think labeled terrible by SNS reps....and now suddenly great similar to Ephedrine...
I don't understand the context of your statement in the above post.

You stated that Higenamine was terrible when USP Labs introduced it to the market 6 years ago - if USP Labs felt it was terrible, then why did they use it? I'm confused. You then said that you thought it was labeled terrible by SNS reps - ? - I don't know that we have hardly any of the same reps as we did 6 years ago so I can't speak for whomever you are attributing that to, but I know that I never said it was terrible because I had never used it until less than a year ago myself.

I'm not trying to argue with you here, but I don't ever post in any other companies announcement or intro threads unless I have something nice to say. This whole interaction was very much unexpected. You say that SNS reps are comparing it to Ephedrine, but I was just relating my personal experience. Hell, there is another company that runs full on banner ads comparing theirs to Ephedrine and a lot of their reviews and feedback seems to back it up.

As far as this thread, someone posted that he found Higenamine similar to Ephedrine. Me agreeing with him based on my personal experience with it isn't comparing it to Ephedrine from a sales and marketing perspective, it was me sharing my personal experience.

If you look at my post, you'll see that I stated I've felt that way about Higenamine since I first tried it months ago. Since we just released ours last week, it's pretty obvious that I was talking about the ingredient itself in general. This was before SNS ever had any intention of making one. I had seen a lot of people comparing Higenamine to Ephedrine at the time and that's what made me want to try it for personal use. When I picked some up, I really wasn't expecting to like it nearly as much as I do & I explained above why I do like it which is because it is the closest thing I've used to ephedrine as far as the feeling and it gives me a smooth feel good energy and I could notice an improvement in my mood similar to what I experience with ephedrine. Also, I clearly stated that it doesn't mean that its going to be that way for everyone, but that it was for me, as it was for the person that made the statement above that I agreed with and also for enough people that reported it being similar that led me to originally try it in the first place, which was before SNS had the intention of offering it.

As far as the original poster that mentioned it and you telling him 'not even close', I took him as relaying his personal experience. I'm one of those people that doesn't believe in telling people that their personal experience or opinion is wrong. Supplements work different for different people. For example, if I tell you that DMHA is as strong as DMAA for me and you say it isn't to you, neither one of us is necessarily wrong; it's just two different opinions about an ingredient.

In summary, I think that most agree that Higenamine is a great ingredient for energy, focus, clarity, appetite control, and fat loss. For me personally, its the closest thing I've taken to Ephedrine since Ephedrine but that doesn't mean its going to be that way for everyone; but there were enough reviews of it being to lead me to buying another brand to try long before SNS planned on making one. And by SNS making one, its allowed people to use it or try it for a great price.
 
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Never tried Higenamine but a good friend of mine also said its closest thing to Ephedrine. Good energy and even better mood too. He usualy dont like stims due to his anxiety but this is totaly different.
 

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I don't understand the context of your statement in the above post.

You stated that Higenamine was terrible when USP Labs introduced it to the market 6 years ago - if USP Labs felt it was terrible, then why did they use it? I'm confused. You then said that you thought it was labeled terrible by SNS reps - ? - I don't know that we have hardly any of the same reps as we did 6 years ago so I can't speak for whomever you are attributing that to, but I know that I never said it was terrible because I had never used it until less than a year ago myself.

I'm not trying to argue with you here, but I don't ever post in any other companies announcement or intro threads unless I have something nice to say. This whole interaction was very much unexpected. You say that SNS reps are comparing it to Ephedrine, but I was just relating my personal experience. Hell, there is another company that runs full on banner ads comparing theirs to Ephedrine and a lot of their reviews and feedback seems to back it up.

As far as this thread, someone posted that he found Higenamine similar to Ephedrine. Me agreeing with him based on my personal experience with it isn't comparing it to Ephedrine from a sales and marketing perspective, it was me sharing my personal experience.

If you look at my post, you'll see that I stated I've felt that way about Higenamine since I first tried it months ago. Since we just released ours last week, it's pretty obvious that I was talking about the ingredient itself in general. This was before SNS ever had any intention of making one. I had seen a lot of people comparing Higenamine to Ephedrine at the time and that's what made me want to try it for personal use. When I picked some up, I really wasn't expecting to like it nearly as much as I do & I explained above why I do like it which is because it is the closest thing I've used to ephedrine as far as the feeling and it gives me a smooth feel good energy and I could notice an improvement in my mood similar to what I experience with ephedrine. Also, I clearly stated that it doesn't mean that its going to be that way for everyone, but that it was for me, as it was for the person that made the statement above that I agreed with and also for enough people that reported it being similar that led me to originally try it in the first place, which was before SNS had the intention of offering it.

As far as the original poster that mentioned it and you telling him 'not even close', I took him as relaying his personal experience. I'm one of those people that doesn't believe in telling people that their personal experience or opinion is wrong. Supplements work different for different people. For example, if I tell you that DMHA is as strong as DMAA for me and you say it isn't to you, neither one of us is necessarily wrong; it's just two different opinions about an ingredient.

In summary, I think that most agree that Higenamine is a great ingredient for energy, focus, clarity, appetite control, and fat loss. For me personally, its the closest thing I've taken to Ephedrine since Ephedrine but that doesn't mean its going to be that way for everyone; but there were enough reviews of it being to lead me to buying another brand to try long before SNS planned on making one. And by SNS making one, its allowed people to use it or try it for a great price.
I was being Facetious. We wouldn't invested close 300k and introduced it into the marketplace. Animal and human data....you wouldn't know about that..
 

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Energy, Focus, Clarity, Appetite Control, & Fat Loss!

Extreme Fat Burning & Potent Stimulant Properties Without the Crash!


Higenamine is an exciting ingredient that is highly acclaimed for its positive effects on mental focus, clarity, energy, fat loss, and appetite suppression without the crash feeling that is commonly associated with many popular stimulant and fat burning ingredients.


Higenamine is primarily used for fat burning, appetite suppression, and boosting energy levels and focus during workouts or in day to day life!


Potential Benefits of Higenamine:

Fat Burning

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Mental Focus & Clarity

No ‘Crash’ Feeling

Higenamine has an interesting history in that this exciting ingredient had been quietly working its way into some of the most popular and effective fat loss, energy, and pre-workout products on the market for a while now.


Instead of promoting the benefits of this powerful ingredient, however, it seemed that many brands were including Higenamine in proprietary blends as a way of making people think that their results were dependent upon buying their branded products rather than the more cost effective approach of using just the ingredient itself. Another bad part of brands hiding Higenamine in their proprietary blends is that consumers weren’t able to tell how much Higenamine they were getting.


SNS has changed all that by offering 30 mg Higenamine capsules at a GREAT PRICE!!


This allows you the chance to use and dose Higenamine how you want it, when you want it!


A Quick Higenamine FAQ:


What is Higenamine?

Higenamine is a naturally occurring fat burning stimulant found in a variety of plant species and is most associated with being a member of the Nandina plant family.


What is Higenamine most commonly used for?

Higenamine is most commonly used for fat burning, appetite suppression, boosting energy, and improving mental focus and clarity.


How does Higenamine work?

In simple terms, Higenamine appears to have an affinity for Beta-2 adrenergic receptors, which makes it a popular option for energy and fat burning. It might potentially also work on Beta-3 adrenergic receptors (which means it can potentially burn brown adipose tissue). Since Higenamine works on Beta-2 adrenergic receptors, it has many people excited because this was one of the primary mechanisms of action of Ephedra (and ephedrine)! On top of that, Higenamine also works on alpha-adrenergic receptors, which increases levels of norepinephrine.


A study in human subjects found that acute supplementation of Higenamine stimulated lipolysis, increased energy expenditure (meaning it is thermogenic), resulting in an increasing of circulating free fatty acids, and resulting a caloric deficit in subjects due to Higenamine supplementation. That’s right, a human study. Unlikely many stimulants out there, Higenamine has been studied in humans. No rodents or animal studies here, human studies.


In short, Higenamine not only increases rates of lipolysis, it actually results in a caloric deficit (you lose calories due to Higenamine supplementation).


Stacking & Synergy:


SNS Higenamine caps allow you to use Higenamine when you want to and how you want to (stay within the suggested dosage and read all warnings before using). As powerful as this exciting ingredient is as a stand-alone option, it is very stackable with other SNS products including Focus XT and a wide variety of other SNS products.


SNS Higenamine Caps

Energy, Focus, Clarity, Appetite Control, & Fat Loss

For Less than .35 Cents per Day!
wrong section bro...
 

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Actually it is the right section...you are jyst in wrong thread.
BTW thanks for funding the studies
Definitely wrong section...I pay nicely to have that sticky up top and if it was this easy to advertise in the supplement section, I would...

no problem....
 
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I was being Facetious. We wouldn't invested over 300k introducing it into the marketplace. Animal and human data....you wouldn't know about that..
I got the facetious part. Just wasn't sure why. I don't post enough to follow any of your interactions with other SNS reps but I've never spoken or interacted with you at all that I know of. And no disrespect intended but I never knew that USP Labs introduced it. The first time I ever saw it was in a PES product but I know that the huge network marketing company Plexus for a long time claimed that it was them that introduced it. I know that SNS never claimed to have introduced it as we acknowledged in our own write up that it was a popular ingredient in a lot of other products and that we were happy to be able to offer it as a single ingredient product at a great price.

If you'd like to pm me and let me know why you felt the need to come into another company's intro/announcement thread just to be facetious as you acknowledged, I'd be glad to message with you. This was totally unexpected because I never recall interacting with you in any way and don't think I've ever said anything negative about USP Labs products at all.

Also, not sure why you'd be pissed at SNS for offering Higenamine as a single ingredient product because to my knowledge, USP Labs doesn't offer it as a single ingredient product. And SNS isn't the first company to even offer it as a single ingredient product, we just happen to be offering it at a helluva lot better price than anyone else has :)

As far as the Ephedra/Ephedrine comparisons, to the best of my knowledge it was Plexus that started the comparisons to the ingredient on paper being as strong as Ephedra/Ephedrine but they had their dosage listed in a prop blend. Then another company that not going to mention here by name started a full on banner campaign comparing it to Ephedrine and DMAA. The feedback on the ingredient with people really liking it and the number of reviews I read comparing it to Ephedra/Ephedrine is what led me to wanting to try it myself and I was very pleasantly surprised. Then over the last few months we started getting a lot of requests to do one so we did.

And you are absolutely right. SNS doesn't mark up its products enough to spend x amount or brag about spending x amount on studies or introducing new ingredients to market. Instead, SNS would prefer to operate off lower margins and offer top quality products at cost effective prices, which is something we can't do if we sink that much into studies (think about it .... doing so is basically admission that a company marks up products enough to fund studies like that).

Instead, SNS would rather offer and use ingredients that have really high customer satisfaction and great feedback and also partner with major ingredient suppliers such as Compound Solutions, Sabinsa, and others who specialize in bringing high end, clinically studied ingredients to the marketplace.
 

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I can tolerate any stim, except yohimbine (cold sweats, nausea, etc.). Does this have similar potential sides, or is it unique to yohimbine?
 
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I can tolerate any stim, except yohimbine (cold sweats, nausea, etc.). Does this have similar potential sides, or is it unique to yohimbine?
I cant handle yohimbine as well... but can handle yohimbine hcl

as for comparison, i am unsure since i havent ran it solo yet but def have it set to run in future and have read good reviews on it
 
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I need to incorporate this into my stim routine...why compare it to ephedra-stack em!!!!
 
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I can tolerate any stim, except yohimbine (cold sweats, nausea, etc.). Does this have similar potential sides, or is it unique to yohimbine?
I can't do Yohimbine myself. I can do Alpha Yohimbine/Rauwolscine, but not regular Yohimbine. I've never heard of anyone having Yohimbine type sides off of Higenamine.

I need to incorporate this into my stim routine...why compare it to ephedra-stack em!!!!
My thoughts also
^^^^ From a company perspective, of course we cannot suggest that. But from a personal perspective, pm me your thoughts if you do.
 
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I can't do Yohimbine myself. I can do Alpha Yohimbine/Rauwolscine, but not regular Yohimbine. I've never heard of anyone having Yohimbine type sides off of Higenamine.





^^^^ From a company perspective, of course we cannot suggest that. But from a personal perspective, pm me your thoughts if you do.
will do...im a big time 'stimmer', lol.
 
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I can tolerate any stim, except yohimbine (cold sweats, nausea, etc.). Does this have similar potential sides, or is it unique to yohimbine?
Yohimbe/bine stands alone. I've never had any other stim, hig included that made me feel like death anywhere near what any form or how small of a mg dose that Y gives me.

Unrelated; USPlabsRep I thought PES was the first to introduce hig? I recall at least trying the beta stim product at the time all those years ago which wound up being hig...unless they were just the first to introduce it to AM....

Thread relevancy; super stoked to pick some SNS hig up to test the upper end of dosing. I like da stims.
 
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What’s weird is Yohimbe doesn’t bother me that bad but alpha Y at the same mg makes me feel like I’m on deaths doorstep.
 

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Yohimbe/bine stands alone. I've never had any other stim, hig included that made me feel like death anywhere near what any form or how small of a mg dose that Y gives me.

Unrelated; USPlabsRep I thought PES was the first to introduce hig? I recall at least trying the beta stim product at the time all those years ago which wound up being hig...unless they were just the first to introduce it to AM....

Thread relevancy; super stoked to pick some SNS hig up to test the upper end of dosing. I like da stims.
Could of been, we studied it...point was the ingredient was viciously attacked as ineffective at the time....
 

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I can tolerate any stim, except yohimbine (cold sweats, nausea, etc.). Does this have similar potential sides, or is it unique to yohimbine?
So in theory it works very different than yohimbine. Y is an alpha 2 antagonist. Alpha 2 receptors decrease Nor Epi levels and decrease sympathetic response (although it hits a wide variety of other receptors and isn’t selective for alpha 2), alpha 2 agonists such as clonidine have anti anxiety and anti hypertensive effects.

Higenamine is on paper thought to be a primary B2 agonist with possible B3 activity. B2 receptors are responsible for other sympathetic mediated responses and cause vasodilation, activation of lipolysis, glucose release from the liver, increase in metabolic rate, bronchodilatory effects. Higenamine is not completely selective for B2 and may have some B1 effects which would increase HR and BP (haven’t seen data on B1 affinity). I have seen some stuff about it theoretically having B3 effects which activates brown fat lipolysis. There are not a ton of known B3 agonists , octopamine is one but it isn’t in many products.

Individual side effects may vary, don’t substitute this for medical advice, all stimulants should be used under the advice of a doctor and all can potentially be dangerous depending on someone’s volume status, underlying heart arrhythmia , or a number of other situations.
 

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Anyone know if higenamine should be used for 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off like many reccomend wjtb ECA or Clen.

I would guess since other B2 agonists are used this way this might be the case?
 

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Just a pricing fyi..... 2 - 90 cap bottles listed for 29.99 at first retailer to get it listed!
Is there a link to take advantage of this promo? Also, can this be stacked with another stim such as radiate? Thank you!
 
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What’s weird is Yohimbe doesn’t bother me that bad but alpha Y at the same mg makes me feel like I’m on deaths doorstep.
I’m the exact opposite but definitely respect that different things work differently for different people. What dosage of Alpha Y have you tried?

Anyone know if higenamine should be used for 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off like many reccomend wjtb ECA or Clen.

I would guess since other B2 agonists are used this way this might be the case?
I’ve never seen anywhere that was recommended and can’t recall ever seeing anyone do it that way. So to the best of my knowledge I would say that it doesn’t need to be (but of course could be).

I will say that from personal experience I haven’t noticed a tolerance to it yet and that’s rare for me bc I usually get used to stims very quickly. That was another thing that reminded me of ephedra bc I didn’t get used to that quickly either. (Now weirdly and interestingly enough, I didn’t get used to ephedra quickly but after 2 weeks on ephedrine I did).
 
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Is there a link to take advantage of this promo? Also, can this be stacked with another stim such as radiate? Thank you!
I believe there is more info about it in our sub forum. I don’t think I am supposed to put an outside link here, but it’s A1 that has that offer. Also, I want to state that we didn’t make this product with the intention of A1 having any type of exclusivity on the first batch. They just bought the entire first batch so it worked out that way.

As far as stacking it with other stims, it is versatile and can be stacked with a lot of different things. In the specific case you mentioned, that product already has some in there so I can’t really give an opinion on that.
 

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How would a typical cycle look like, how many mg and length? I’m fairly stim tolerant...
 
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Just a pricing fyi..... 2 - 90 cap bottles listed for 29.99 at first retailer to get it listed!
Got the bogo over at A1!
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Going to be putting up a log/review of this.
 

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To add on to my post earlier...

Yohimbine is actually a notoriously dirty drug, It hits a number of other receptors other than alpha 2 including serotonin and dopamine receptors. It has a ton of drug interactions. I believe it is used as a pharmaceutical in other countries to reverse the effects of anasthesia. Based on its mechanism of increasing catecholamines or blunting negative feedback of the effects of catecholamines it has more of a systemic adrenaline response by increasing NorEpi levels, and also affecting dopamine and serotonin.

I get extreme chills, goosebumps, cold sweats, anxiety , nausea from Y-hcl, I’m not sure if this was the dose in the proprietary blend but I pretty much refuse to try anything with it in there. Alpha Y on the other hand I seem to do ok with, some sides but tolerable, atleast in the reasonable doses I’ve tried in one product.

Y-Hcl has significant drug interactions with drugs that effect NE, dopamine, and serotonin, and also could be dangerous if used prior to surgery as it obv effects anasthesia.

I may try a low dose of alpha y in the future but I refuse to use anything with y-hcl
 
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So those of us on a high dose of effexor proy do best not doin the yohimbe... But with the comparison to ec stack.. I've read some on using ecy stack as the synergy works well. Any yohimbe alternatives to use if one were to do school stack + hig to boost efficacy?
 

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