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Blast: Trestolone Acetate + Testosterone + Superdrol + LGD / Hairygrandpa blowing up!

HIT4ME said:
So, I have a bunch of research into various aspects of obesity that I have been doing, and this is just a couple of studies, but there's some interesting links between melatonin and diabetes/obesity.

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So, you know me - always a calories in, calories out kind of guy. Don't really buy into a lot of the stuff. I've always pushed back on the "meal timing" ideas or even worse, the idea that eating later at night had some magical impact on weight management - but maybe there are some indirect factors dealing with circadian rhythms.

Of course, I think A LOT of people are in the same boat as you and I certainly am. It's easy to be busy during the day and eat nothing at all, then at night while winding down it's time for the eating disorders to come out. And I am not using eating disorder in a derogatory fashion in any way, to be clear.
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This is definitely something I find.....if I’m active in the day (I.e not driving or sat in airports etc) then I can do 1,000 Cals until 6/7pm easy. Then in the evening I literally can eat for hours, at the moment it’s no issue as I’m maintaining on 4,000 (bear in mind I run in the morning and lift in the pm, I also train bootcamp classes etc) so actually I only just get to that amount - Saturday I start cutting so won’t be as easy right then.....but yeah totally get your comment bro
 
Whisky said:
This is definitely something I find.....if I’m active in the day (I.e not driving or sat in airports etc) then I can do 1,000 Cals until 6/7pm easy. Then in the evening I literally can eat for hours, at the moment it’s no issue as I’m maintaining on 4,000 (bear in mind I run in the morning and lift in the pm, I also train bootcamp classes etc) so actually I only just get to that amount - Saturday I start cutting so won’t be as easy right then.....but yeah totally get your comment bro
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Yeah those studies aren't the best I could find ...but I don't have time to dig into my stuff right now and those were just handy - but basically melatonin actually has a role in insulin signaling. If you delete the melatonin 1 receptor, it actually will induce insulin resistance in mice. Melatonin and insulin are also inversely correlated - when one goes up, the other goes down.

At the end of the day, it may not be good to spike insulin late at night - because that will reduce melatonin levels when you are supposed to be increasing them, and melatonin levels are necessary for insulin to function properly.

It may still be a matter of details having a small impact and your overall habits having a larger impact - but if you are always functioning with reduced melatonin levels because you eat late at night, it could induce diabetes. And I wonder if this might also be a link to things like Alzheimer's since lack of sleep has been shown to heavily correlated with future AD progression. Of course, it's all kind of a jump - but interesting to ponder.
 
The perks of having a training partner:

He called me a "puzzy-man" via whatsup, for having a "off-day". Now I have to go to the gym.
 
for electrolytes I like the Nuun brand tablets. Just drop them in a bottle of water and go.
 
Gym

4x rotator cuff cable exercises x 2 sets

smith machine shrugs:
240lbs x16/14/12

smith machine reverse shrugs, seated:
240lbs x13/10/10

Inclined abs crunches with medicine ball
3 sets

Roman chair leg raises
2 sets

Heavy bag 2 x 1 minute

This was a "off day" workout, for tomorrow is "full out mayhem" planed.
 
Started eating a hour ago, plate is still half full, dammit!

This 1 hour window, 1 meal a day idea, is getting frustrating already.

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Its getting ridiculous...

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Gonna need a "feeding partner"....

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hairygrandpa said:
Started eating a hour ago, plate is still half full, dammit!

This 1 hour window, 1 meal a day idea, is getting frustrating already.

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What is the point of only having 1 hour to eat post workout? What is the biological benefit supposed to be? I am not aware of any that would make that worth while. Pick your macros for post workout and then eat them until you are finished. If it takes one hour or 3 it doesn't matter. Just lead with the carbs and finish higher fats.
 
MrKleen73 said:
What is the point of only having 1 hour to eat post workout? What is the biological benefit supposed to be? I am not aware of any that would make that worth while. Pick your macros for post workout and then eat them until you are finished. If it takes one hour or 3 it doesn't matter. Just lead with the carbs and finish higher fats.
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It's the one hour feeding window I TRY to maintain for intermittent fasting. Not so much about post workout meal benefits.
Getting my protein needs in only one hour down is torture.... May switch to a 2 hour window.
 
hairygrandpa said:
It's the one hour feeding window I TRY to maintain for intermittent fasting. Not so much about post workout meal benefits.
Getting my protein needs in only one hour down is torture.... May switch to a 2 hour window.
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Why not make the protein window 4 hours, so you get an additional synthesis bump 3-4 hours after the big meal (or vice versa)?
 
Hyde said:
Why not make the protein window 4 hours, so you get an additional synthesis bump 3-4 hours after the big meal (or vice versa)?
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After trying to eat all in one session, it is unavoidable, I guess.
 
Just curious, how has the LGD been treating you? And what brand and dosage are you running?
I recently picked up a bottle of Olympus Labs "Legend" for a future run...I just go on TRT so gotta wait till I have my first 6 week labwork done.
Thinking of doing the first 2 weeks of LGD at 4mg then upping if needed. Going for 6 week cycle, may add in DMZ for the first 4 weeks as well...
 
hairygrandpa said:
After trying to eat all in one session, it is unavoidable, I guess.
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The other option is to add in a large amount of protein powder and fats if you just really want to get your macros in during that hour. In that scenario you are so unlikely to stimulate fat storage that getting in 200-250p, 100 fats and 200-300 g carbs and you are set. I would drink some of your carbs too, so it is easier to get them in.
 
Kratom267 said:
Just curious, how has the LGD been treating you? And what brand and dosage are you running?
I recently picked up a bottle of Olympus Labs "Legend" for a future run...I just go on TRT so gotta wait till I have my first 6 week labwork done.
Thinking of doing the first 2 weeks of LGD at 4mg then upping if needed. Going for 6 week cycle, may add in DMZ for the first 4 weeks as well...
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I bought raw powder and dissolved it in grain alcohol. I started low for a week and then stayed at 12.5mg for almost 3 month. This will be my last run of LGD.
I now think that a moderate dose of anavar, t-bol, winstrol blows it out of the water. I thought LGD was a good choice for being more "liver friendly" than most orals -but honestly, its not worth it, at least for me.
 
MrKleen73 said:
The other option is to add in a large amount of protein powder and fats if you just really want to get your macros in during that hour. In that scenario you are so unlikely to stimulate fat storage that getting in 200-250p, 100 fats and 200-300 g carbs and you are set. I would drink some of your carbs too, so it is easier to get them in.
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Will extend the window to 2 hours, finishing with cocktails of whey, whole milk and coconut oil. Maybe I could blend some oats in too.
 
hairygrandpa said:
Will extend the window to 2 hours, finishing with cocktails of whey, whole milk and coconut oil. Maybe I could blend some oats in too.
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You could but my recommendation for what you are trying to achieve would be some Cream of Rice cereal. Much easier to digest, and will allow your blood sugar to return to a baseline faster than oats. Plus even ground up oats will make you feel very full.
 
MrKleen73 said:
You could but my recommendation for what you are trying to achieve would be some Cream of Rice cereal. Much easier to digest, and will allow your blood sugar to return to a baseline faster than oats. Plus even ground up oats will make you feel very full.
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Never heard of cream of rice cereal.
Besides feeling full after oats, if I have oats at night, its not good for my wife. My farts while sleeping are exceeding tolerable decibel levels.
 
MrKleen73 said:
You could but my recommendation for what you are trying to achieve would be some Cream of Rice cereal. Much easier to digest, and will allow your blood sugar to return to a baseline faster than oats. Plus even ground up oats will make you feel very full.
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I also could go low on carbs and backload weekends, maybe the best approach.
 
Hyde said:
No, he means Cream of Rice. Made by same brand and comes in an orange box. Can buy it on Amazon for cheap. Easier to digest than oats or wheat.
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I live in Paraguay. Have to pay US18.- per kilo for transport. Sadly not a good idea for me. Will go with backloading on weekends.
 
hairygrandpa said:
I live in Paraguay. Have to pay US18.- per kilo for transport. Sadly not a good idea for me. Will go with backloading on weekends.
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If you have Chex/Crispix or Rice Bubbles at your supermarket just use them.

Your water weight will be all over the place with weekend backloading.
 
Newth said:
If you have Chex/Crispix or Rice Bubbles at your supermarket just use them.

Your water weight will be all over the place with weekend backloading.
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I doubt we have something like that.... -but will have a look, never searched for a carb source from rice, besides, well, rice.
 
Have you ever considered just buying dextrose? Obviously only if your wanting to hit this 1 hour feeding window......
 
Whisky said:
Have you ever considered just buying dextrose? Obviously only if your wanting to hit this 1 hour feeding window......
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You are right, I have to look at alternatives. I have "Karbolyn" at hand, but it gets expensive when used regularly.
Thinking about it, I'm trying to loose fat, less carbs is welcome anyways.

Today I took 3 hours of a window and gulped down 2 big shakes to get roughly 230gr of protein in.
 
hairygrandpa said:
You are right, I have to look at alternatives. I have "Karbolyn" at hand, but it gets expensive when used regularly.
Thinking about it, I'm trying to loose fat, less carbs is welcome anyways.

Today I took 3 hours of a window and gulped down 2 big shakes to get roughly 230gr of protein in.
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I naturally gravitate to lowish carb myself. But I think it’s relative to activity.....my current strategy is to keep it at 300g on training days or under on non. My logic is that the body can only store 400-500g in muscles and liver cells, because my cardio is high and I’ve definitely depleted those levels to zero at least once a week then by keeping carbs that amount the vast majority will simply be getting stored as glycogen as I have the space.....

I know it’s an oversimplification but it appears to be working better than any other strategy I’ve used in the past to avoid fat gain.

I mean all you have to do is run for 45 mins 6 days a week and lift weights for 2 hours 5 times a week lol
 
Whisky said:
I naturally gravitate to lowish carb myself. But I think it’s relative to activity.....my current strategy is to keep it at 300g on training days or under on non. My logic is that the body can only store 400-500g in muscles and liver cells, because my cardio is high and I’ve definitely depleted those levels to zero at least once a week then by keeping carbs that amount the vast majority will simply be getting stored as glycogen as I have the space.....

I know it’s an oversimplification but it appears to be working better than any other strategy I’ve used in the past to avoid fat gain.

I mean all you have to do is run for 45 mins 6 days a week and lift weights for 2 hours 5 times a week lol
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Your strategy is sound. What are you using as a source for fat?
 
hairygrandpa said:
You are right, I have to look at alternatives. I have "Karbolyn" at hand, but it gets expensive when used regularly.
Thinking about it, I'm trying to loose fat, less carbs is welcome anyways.

Today I took 3 hours of a window and gulped down 2 big shakes to get roughly 230gr of protein in.
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Holy poop and by that I mean r.i.p. Uranus lol.
 
CJNator said:
Holy poop and by that I mean r.i.p. Uranus lol.
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Yes, the dump from yesterday clogged the toilet, had to use 2 buckets of water to get the infant sized turd through. :)
My meal today was 450gr black beans with smoked pork (120gr prot.), 3 bananas (3gr prot), 2x shakes with each 50gr whey, coconut oil, whole milk.
No idea how much calories, I'm too lazy to count anything besides protein.
 
hairygrandpa said:
Yes, the dump from yesterday clogged the toilet, had to use 2 buckets of water to get the infant sized turd through. :)
My meal today was 450gr black beans with smoked pork (120gr prot.), 3 bananas (3gr prot), 2x shakes with each 50gr whey, coconut oil, whole milk.
No idea how much calories, I'm too lazy to count anything besides protein.
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Lmaoo damn ? and as long as you track what you eat is all good.
 
hairygrandpa said:
Your strategy is sound. What are you using as a source for fat?
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Fat sources for me are mainly

- oily fish
- nuts/seeds (almonds, pb and chia seeds mainly)
- olive oil
- eggs
- dairy (milk, yoghurt, butter etc)
- avocado
- some beef (1-2 times a week)

There’s others but they are the main ones I’d say
 
I find it very interesting that Hairygrandpa, Whisky and myself ALL seem to naturally gravitate toward low carb eating...and I know we have all lost a lot of weight in the past. Makes one wonder about the entire low carb thing.
 
hairygrandpa said:
I also could go low on carbs and backload weekends, maybe the best approach.
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It has been working for me.
hairygrandpa said:
I live in Paraguay. Have to pay US18.- per kilo for transport. Sadly not a good idea for me. Will go with backloading on weekends.
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It is really just ground rice or rice powder although not sure if it was ground or not. Low fat Rice pudding is always a good option for easy carbs too.
Whisky said:
I naturally gravitate to lowish carb myself. But I think it’s relative to activity.....my current strategy is to keep it at 300g on training days or under on non. My logic is that the body can only store 400-500g in muscles and liver cells, because my cardio is high and I’ve definitely depleted those levels to zero at least once a week then by keeping carbs that amount the vast majority will simply be getting stored as glycogen as I have the space.....

I know it’s an oversimplification but it appears to be working better than any other strategy I’ve used in the past to avoid fat gain.

I mean all you have to do is run for 45 mins 6 days a week and lift weights for 2 hours 5 times a week lol
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Nothing wrong with that it is working.
HIT4ME said:
I find it very interesting that Hairygrandpa, Whisky and myself ALL seem to naturally gravitate toward low carb eating...and I know we have all lost a lot of weight in the past. Makes one wonder about the entire low carb thing.
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What does it make you wonder about it? It is pretty typical for overweight carb sensitive people. It is the easiest form Of dieting for most. No cravings and so simple it is very convenient.
 
I just wanna say that saying the body can only store a hard number of carbs, like 4-500, isn’t taking into account the individual. A 120lb kiddo isn’t going to have the muscle mass to store glycogen the way a guy with 250lbs stageweight could make use of it.

Same for things like creatine.
 
HGP, someone shared this with me in another thread and I thought that it might be useful for you to know for your next run leveraging Ralox

Also a little tip on Raloxifene: It has an abysmal bioavailability, somewhere around 2% in humans. It gets chewed up my the p450 enzyme in the intestinal tract. One way around this is to take piperine (aka bioperine) with your ralox dosage and this should increase it's effectiveness substantially.
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Sparkss said:
HGP, someone shared this with me in another thread and I thought that it might be useful for you to know for your next run leveraging Ralox
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Hyde said:
So take it with your nighttime turmeric drink and bioperine caps basically and g2g
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Worth a try, piperine is dirt cheap. I'm not on the turmeric train, took it for many months and now I can't stand the taste anymore. My wife is using it with success.
 
Hyde said:
I just wanna say that saying the body can only store a hard number of carbs, like 4-500, isn’t taking into account the individual. A 120lb kiddo isn’t going to have the muscle mass to store glycogen the way a guy with 250lbs stageweight could make use of it.

Same for things like creatine.
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Yeah appreciate this is true - was just talking averages but you are quite right
 
MrKleen73 said:
What does it make you wonder about it? It is pretty typical for overweight carb sensitive people. It is the easiest form Of dieting for most. No cravings and so simple it is very convenient.
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It makes me wonder if low carb diets are really highly misinterpreted. Not saying low carb won't work - but it may actually reduce your ability to lose weight. I mean, nobody ever mentions it, but you would lose more weight burning 1000 calories of carbs vs. 1000 calories of fat.
 
Inclined bench press machine
275lbs x13/12/10
210lbs x partials 21's x2

Seated row narrow grip
265lbs x20 (!)
265lbs holding 1 sec x12

Seated row with chest stop, one armed
165lbs x16
190lbs x12/11

cable lower traps V raises
4-sets

Deadlifts, singles
225lbs x1
270lbs x1
315lbs x1
360lbs x1
405lbs x1
450lbs x1 (almost fainted)
 
The 450 were more like this:

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Edit: actually, I'm kidding. Went up pretty good
 
hairygrandpa said:
Inclined bench press machine
275lbs x13/12/10
210lbs x partials 21's x2

Seated row narrow grip
265lbs x20 (!)
265lbs holding 1 sec x12

Seated row with chest stop, one armed
165lbs x16
190lbs x12/11

cable lower traps V raises
4-sets

Deadlifts, singles
225lbs x1
270lbs x1
315lbs x1
360lbs x1
405lbs x1
450lbs x1 (almost fainted)
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Almost fainting while deadlifting is crazy, one second you’re happy you did the lift and next thing you know you’re forgetting to breath lol.
 
Strong Deadlift !!
 
hairygrandpa said:
Inclined bench press machine
275lbs x13/12/10
210lbs x partials 21's x2

Seated row narrow grip
265lbs x20 (!)
265lbs holding 1 sec x12

Seated row with chest stop, one armed
165lbs x16
190lbs x12/11

cable lower traps V raises
4-sets

Deadlifts, singles
225lbs x1
270lbs x1
315lbs x1
360lbs x1
405lbs x1
450lbs x1 (almost fainted)
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Do you use salts when lifting heavy?
I find they really help to prevent fainting.
 
BennyMagoo79 said:
Do you use salts when lifting heavy?
I find they really help to prevent fainting.
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I bet they work! Love watching the big guys sniffing on them before going for it! They give you the needed kick of aggression too, it seems.
Thought about it -but I rarely go heavy.
 
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