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Blast: Trestolone Acetate + Testosterone + Superdrol + LGD / Hairygrandpa blowing up!

rtmilburn said:
Yes it is. One of the best strength compunds there is and lean mass thats hard as a rock too. But 12 weeks of it seems rough, especially with hpgs joint problems and old age ;) it may be rough for him
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Could be , I've heard mk266 is great again at winstrol joints. But again more moneyyyyy haha..
 
Chados said:
Could be , I've heard mk266 is great again at winstrol joints. But again more moneyyyyy haha..
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My guess is, the trest-methyl-estrogen-from-hell should take care of the joints. But will buy some raw ibutamoren in future, it has tons of benefits.
 
hairygrandpa said:
My guess is, the trest-methyl-estrogen-from-hell should take care of the joints. But will buy some raw ibutamoren in future, it has tons of benefits.
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Yes my guess too and indeed there are options to joint problems, I use glucosamine with winny.. again 25mg is like half of what I take so I'm not sure you'll notice any problems but better be safe. Have you ran winstrol before?
 
Chados said:
Yes my guess too and indeed there are options to joint problems, I use glucosamine with winny.. again 25mg is like half of what I take so I'm not sure you'll notice any problems but better be safe. Have you ran winstrol before?
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Yes, at 50mg/d, without joint problems, even though I'm prone to it. Was not in awe about how winnie worked for me -but I'm a weirdo when its about roids.
 
hairygrandpa said:
I'm lucky that I couldn't get trest enanthate -but I tried, LOL.
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Not only the half life, I heard that trest enanth is also stronger than trest ace. I know a compound is a compound, regardless of the ester attached, but some users reported it being too strong and having to bail on it completely and just go back to trest ace.
 
hairygrandpa said:
In that case the future cycle would look like:

-150mg/w test/u (does not want to go without, as it is my TRT and the undecanoate takes weeks to get stable)
-20mg/d trest ace
-75mg/d-100mg/d proviron (3x25mg or 2x 50mg)
-20mg winstrol/d (is this enough?)
-pregnenolone
-0.5mg/d adex
-60mg/d ralox (preloading at 120mg for a week to tap all receptors before using trest)

Not opting for masteron here to avoid pinning, proviron should do.

Is that sound?
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rtmilburn said:
Looks good other than i wouldnt not use winnie. Proviron should be enough. You can if you want, as i wont hurt the cycle, but i think it may be a bit of a hassle and extra cost.
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I was not aware of that benefit of proviron. I have enough for one month at 75 mg/d. that should be enough for a short trest ace cycle later this year. I did read some logs where they also ran high doses of exem to keep the bloat down, something like 12.5 mg/d, and ended up in a recomp cycle, just using trest ace and exem. I would be too worried about crashing e2 :).
 
hairygrandpa said:
Cycle update / Day 32

3 days ago my left nipple started aching. I upped letro and ralox to no avail.
So I ditched trest. Implemented cardarine at 20mg/d to get my lipids in range for the upcoming t-bol cut/recomp.

Today, pain in nipple got better -but a small lump formed. Will keep taking 50mg ralox/day and switch from letro to 0.5 adex eod, to not crush e2 too hard.

Cycle as of today is:

-350mg test/w
-12.5mg LGD/d
-50mg Ralox/d
-adex 0.5mg/eod
-20mg cardarine/d

What I learned is:
-Trest ace aromatizes into a methyl-estrogen that's very difficult to control. Ralox at 15mg/d was not enough to safeguard against gyno, even with low dosage of trest (10mg/d). Letro has apparently only a small impact on "methyl estrogen". Daily 1mg of letro did not crush -or lower e2 enough to prevent gyno (one explication could be my letro is fake -but I also tried 1mg pharma adex/d without success.)
Will try again with a higher dose of ralox in future. This time pre-loading ralox for a week at 120mg/d before starting trest.

-S-drol at 20mg can be tolerated by me for only 4 weeks, after that cramps, lethargy and overall ill feeling sets in.

I am somewhat disappointed. Trest is awesome and I wished I could use it longer -but after 3 weeks the estro-trouble starts. Maybe I should use it in short cycles, as it kicks in relative quickly.
Sdrol kicked in late for me (week 2), almost everyone else is claiming that you can feel it after a few days.
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Sounds like your experience with sd was similar to mine. Gained no weight until week 2, had to seriously up calories to add weight. By week 4 was happy to see the back of it.
 
Gym

Legs/Shoulders

Mostly machines. Focus was on legs, now getting used to the unilateral leg curls.
Strength is still up, could use more weights on lateral rises and squats -but did not ego lift.

Bloat is wearing off slowly, revealing whats underneath (hint: looking good).
 
Glad you are getting things dialed in !
 
hairygrandpa said:
Gym

Legs/Shoulders

Mostly machines. Focus was on legs, now getting used to the unilateral leg curls.
Strength is still up, could use more weights on lateral rises and squats -but did not ego lift.

Bloat is wearing off slowly, revealing whats underneath (hint: looking good).
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Glad to hear about the bloat going away. I get frustrated when I bloat as I never know how much is bloat and how much it fat. When do you think you will be at a point where you are ready to take some progress pictures?
 
I tried some MK from an RC company once the bloat was insane, needless to say I did not use it long.
 
Rocket3015 said:
I tried some MK from an RC company once the bloat was insane, needless to say I did not use it long.
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At 30mg MK I got tons of bloat, I dropped it to 20mg/d and it was better, but not optimal. I run at 10mg/d now, taken just before bedtime and don't really notice any bloat from it. Been running for months now.. I actually am not sure how long, maybe close to a year :). It is just a staple supp for me.
 
Sparkss said:
At 30mg MK I got tons of bloat, I dropped it to 20mg/d and it was better, but not optimal. I run at 10mg/d now, taken just before bedtime and don't really notice any bloat from it. Been running for months now.. I actually am not sure how long, maybe close to a year :). It is just a staple supp for me.
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Why do you tack it before bed ?
 
Rocket3015 said:
Why do you tack it before bed ?
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That turns the negative (lethargy/sleepiness) into a positive, at least for me it does.

EDIT: Of course that would not be the case if you are one that it acts like a stim for.
 
Sparkss said:
Glad to hear about the bloat going away. I get frustrated when I bloat as I never know how much is bloat and how much it fat. When do you think you will be at a point where you are ready to take some progress pictures?
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I think he took some about a week ago didn't he? Looking all massive! Would like to see more though I bet he is looking beastly.
Rocket3015 said:
Why do you tack it before bed ?
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Probably the GH supplementation mentality, most GH supps are taken at night but this one causes GH bleed, not spikes so it is a 24 hours a day thing.
 
Sparkss said:
That turns the negative (lethargy/sleepiness) into a positive, at least for me it does.
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Interesting, I never got any of the lethargy or sleepiness from it around dosing time. I did end up dreaming a little more vividly so deeper sleep but I felt refreshed all day taking it in the morning. We all react a little differently huh.
 
I have some I have not opened, I may try it before bed.
 
Sparkss said:
Glad to hear about the bloat going away. I get frustrated when I bloat as I never know how much is bloat and how much it fat. When do you think you will be at a point where you are ready to take some progress pictures?
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MrKleen73 said:
I think he took some about a week ago didn't he? Looking all massive! Would like to see more though I bet he is looking beastly.
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I lost a considerable amount of size again, probably intra cellular water and glycogen -but now veins are showing.
Will take pics when changes are more obvious.
 
Gym

Got eager to the gym -but noticed no strength today. I declared it a deload day.

My weight went down from 233.5 lbs to 216.5 lbs in 6 days.

The amount of water I was holding from trest was ridiculous.

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Basically, I ended up leaner than I started while bulking with 4500-6000 kcal/day for over a month. That is weird beyond belief.
 
Awesome job HGP! Looking good, I do believe this is the best I have seen you look.
 
hairygrandpa said:
Gym

Got eager to the gym -but noticed no strength today. I declared it a deload day.

My weight went down from 233.5 lbs to 216.5 lbs in 6 days.

The amount of water I was holding from trest was ridiculous.

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Basically, I ended up leaner than I started while bulking with 4500-6000 kcal/day for over a month. That is weird beyond belief.
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The magic of superdrol and trest. Those two steriods are something else. Seriously though I think superdrol is the single most effective recomp agent there is. Even better than tren. The results with it are astonishing. I think it may be the most effective steriods period (obviously can't be run for long though, so that's a major draw back).
 
MrKleen73 said:
Awesome job HGP! Looking good, I do believe this is the best I have seen you look.
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Thank you, still a long way to go, almost 2 month of cycle left. Recomp starts today. Will add T-bol in 2 weeks.
 
rtmilburn said:
Btw you are looking great man
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Thank's. I'm not as happy. It should have been a bulk. How the heck did I end up leaner? What would have happened, if I had stayed around 2500-3000 kcal instead of up to 6000 ?

I just don't get it.
 
hairygrandpa said:
Thank's. I'm not as happy. It should have been a bulk. How the heck did I end up leaner? What would have happened, if I had stayed around 2500-3000 kcal instead of up to 6000 ?

I just don't get it.
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You probably would have shredded the hell up.
 
Sorry you had to cut your cycle short, but man you got a lot out of it.......looking good.
Great job......It was smart to stop early, because health is more important than extra gains.
 
MrKleen73 said:
You probably would have shredded the hell up.
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gphagan1 said:
Sorry you had to cut your cycle short, but man you got a lot out of it.......looking good.
Great job......It was smart to stop early, because health is more important than extra gains.
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I will definitely repeat this cycle in a few month, this time with less calories. The cycle is not over yet. Now comes the recomp part (hilarious, the bulk was actually a recomp....anyway). As soon as my lipids are in range -and the liver had a rest, I start T-bol. T-bol will treat me well, had very good experience with it in the past.
 
hairygrandpa said:
I will definitely repeat this cycle in a few month, this time with less calories. The cycle is not over yet. Now comes the recomp part (hilarious, the bulk was actually a recomp....anyway). As soon as my lipids are in range -and the liver had a rest, I start T-bol. T-bol will treat me well, had very good experience with it in the past.
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You definitely grew even though you weigh less.
 
hairygrandpa said:
Thank's. I'm not as happy. It should have been a bulk. How the heck did I end up leaner? What would have happened, if I had stayed around 2500-3000 kcal instead of up to 6000 ?

I just don't get it.
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I feel the same. I didn't lose weight like you but basically was on 2500cal maintenence started taking superdrol. Upped cals by 500... Nothing... Another 500... Nothing... Another 500... Started gaining finally but still if I tried that **** without the sd I would have gained pounds of pure fat per week easy. I think sd just spikes metabolism and nutrient partitions like a b1tch.
 
Wobmarvel said:
I feel the same. I didn't lose weight like you but basically was on 2500cal maintenence started taking superdrol. Upped cals by 500... Nothing... Another 500... Nothing... Another 500... Started gaining finally but still if I tried that **** without the sd I would have gained pounds of pure fat per week easy. I think sd just spikes metabolism and nutrient partitions like a b1tch.
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Yeah they always tell you to feed the hell out of SD.
 
Super jealous HG! Looking swole brother! Funny how you guys move the scale and mine won’t budge!
 
hairygrandpa said:
I will definitely repeat this cycle in a few month, this time with less calories. The cycle is not over yet. Now comes the recomp part (hilarious, the bulk was actually a recomp....anyway). As soon as my lipids are in range -and the liver had a rest, I start T-bol. T-bol will treat me well, had very good experience with it in the past.
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What dosage are you planning to run T-bol at?
 
hairygrandpa said:
I will definitely repeat this cycle in a few month, this time with less calories. The cycle is not over yet. Now comes the recomp part (hilarious, the bulk was actually a recomp....anyway). As soon as my lipids are in range -and the liver had a rest, I start T-bol. T-bol will treat me well, had very good experience with it in the past.
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You look great HG, bulk may have turned into a recomp but it’s not a bad outcome imho in any way...... inspires me to keep pushing anyway

My next cycle (first pin cycle) will start with 6 weeks of t Bol - From what I’ve read it’s awesome the leaner you are (I’m taking 3 months plus inbetween to cut right down) when you start (I know this is true for them all) so you should be ideally placed for great gains.
 
hairygrandpa said:
I will definitely repeat this cycle in a few month, this time with less calories. The cycle is not over yet. Now comes the recomp part (hilarious, the bulk was actually a recomp....anyway). As soon as my lipids are in range -and the liver had a rest, I start T-bol. T-bol will treat me well, had very good experience with it in the past.
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I like Tbol.....not the strongest, but good results whether bulking or cutting, and I get no negative sides from it.....smart choice.
 
Shoulders and Arms look Great and I think there may be some ab under that shag carpet.
 
Sparkss said:
What dosage are you planning to run T-bol at?
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70mg for about 7 weeks, together with 350mg test/w and 50mg proviron/d. AI only when I feel its necessary. Intermittent fasting with one huge meal a day.

Now I'm also off of LGD. Taking cardarine to bring cholesterol in range. So, everything is off, besides 350mg test/w, waiting until liver and lipids are good to go.
 
BennyMagoo79 said:
Wow dude you are looking awesome!
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Thank you. I would say: "Good for my age." -but that is not enough.



Weight is still going down, looking leaner again. I'm getting a bit worried now. Body is virtually morphing around. Today I looked better than the day I took the pics.
 
hairygrandpa said:
Thank you. I would say: "Good for my age." -but that is not enough.



Weight is still going down, looking leaner again. I'm getting a bit worried now. Body is virtually morphing around. Today I looked better than the day I took the pics.
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Isn't that the goal? :)
 
MrKleen73 said:
Isn't that the goal? :)
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Remember, I bulked for over a month and lost weight. I just can't wrap my head around it.
I gained size on my quads, calfs -and a little on my traps, weighting now less than before the bulk. It would indicate I lost fat and gained muscle -but I sport the same hip tire as before and still holding on to fat at the chest.

I'm eager to see what happens next. Started proviron today to help hardening up for the upcoming t-bol cycle.
 
hairygrandpa said:
Remember, I bulked for over a month and lost weight. I just can't wrap my head around it.
I gained size on my quads, calfs -and a little on my traps, weighting now less than before the bulk. It would indicate I lost fat and gained muscle -but I sport the same hip tire as before and still holding on to fat at the chest.

I'm eager to see what happens next. Started proviron today to help hardening up for the upcoming t-bol cycle.
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The chest fat waits around until last for me unfortunately. You are obviously leaner though, I am sure the hip tire has gone down just not as much as you would like yet. It will.
 
hairygrandpa said:
Remember, I bulked for over a month and lost weight. I just can't wrap my head around it.
I gained size on my quads, calfs -and a little on my traps, weighting now less than before the bulk. It would indicate I lost fat and gained muscle -but I sport the same hip tire as before and still holding on to fat at the chest.

I'm eager to see what happens next. Started proviron today to help hardening up for the upcoming t-bol cycle.
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Its hard to see for you, since you see yourself every day and body dysmorphia is real amongst us lifters. However, that hip tire is MUCH smaller from the two pictures you showed us. I bet you moved a notch or two on your belt, didnt you?
 
rtmilburn said:
Its hard to see for you, since you see yourself every day and body dysmorphia is real amongst us lifters. However, that hip tire is MUCH smaller from the two pictures you showed us. I bet you moved a notch or two on your belt, didnt you?
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My thoughts too!
 
hairygrandpa said:
Remember, I bulked for over a month and lost weight. I just can't wrap my head around it.
I gained size on my quads, calfs -and a little on my traps, weighting now less than before the bulk. It would indicate I lost fat and gained muscle -but I sport the same hip tire as before and still holding on to fat at the chest.

I'm eager to see what happens next. Started proviron today to help hardening up for the upcoming t-bol cycle.
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Sounds like a tren cycle. I'd say nice job
 
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