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Donald Trump running for president

Let's assume they now have the key guy who will roll on him to save his own ass?? From what I'm seeing hes facing 30+ years? They will wave the freedom carrot and he with sing like a bird.
 
LiveToLift said:
Let's assume they now have the key guy who will roll on him to save his own ass?? From what I'm seeing hes facing 30+ years? They will wave the freedom carrot and he with sing like a bird.
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Cohen may see prison time mostly due to his own stupidity and arrogance as he seems to think he is on the same level as Trump. The higher up people rarely go to prison for the actual crime that gets them on the authority's radar. It's usually something like perjury and I think that is a big reason why Trumps' lawyers have been advising him not to cooperate with Mueller. He can't seem to help himself from lying about even unimportant things and once he does that under oath, he's screwed.
 
Aleksandar37 said:
Cohen may see prison time mostly due to his own stupidity and arrogance as he seems to think he is on the same level as Trump. The higher up people rarely go to prison for the actual crime that gets them on the authority's radar. It's usually something like perjury and I think that is a big reason why Trumps' lawyers have been advising him not to cooperate with Mueller. He can't seem to help himself from lying about even unimportant things and once he does that under oath, he's screwed.
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if cohen is as smart as he thinks he is any incriminating evidence would have been secreted in a very secure place out of the reach of Mueller-or anyone else!!!

especially after manifort!!!
 
thebigt said:
if cohen is as smart as he thinks he is any incriminating evidence would have been secreted in a very secure place out of the reach of Mueller-or anyone else!!!

especially after manifort!!!
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He believes himself to be much smarter and more clever than he actually is. He's pure arrogance and thinks that he's above the law. I'm sure he's had a good time over the years dealing with typical Trump antics, but this is far different. Even Trump-appointed attorneys like Geoffrey Berman are recusing themselves and walking away because they actually are smart enough to know how the law works.
 
Aleksandar37 said:
He believes himself to be much smarter and more clever than he actually is. He's pure arrogance and thinks that he's above the law. I'm sure he's had a good time over the years dealing with typical Trump antics, but this is far different. Even Trump-appointed attorneys like Geoffrey Berman are recusing themselves and walking away because they actually are smart enough to know how the law works.
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everyone has something they don't want getting into the public domain, Mueller himself is no angel!!!


trump haters should remember one thing, pence is behind curtain #1......
 
thebigt said:
everyone has something they don't want getting into the public domain, Mueller himself is no angel!!!


trump haters should remember one thing, pence is behind curtain #1......
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This isn't about hiding affairs with porn stars from his ex-illegal immigrant hooker wife. If you have dirt on Mueller, lets hear it.

Some, like myself, that you want to write off as Trump haters have repeatedly said that it's not about Trump. This should be about finding the truth and whoever is guilty should be prosecuted and punished, whether that includes Trump or not. Just because Pence would step up isn't a reason to let Trump get a pass either.
 
Aleksandar37 said:
This isn't about hiding affairs with porn stars from his ex-illegal immigrant hooker wife. If you have dirt on Mueller, lets hear it.

Some, like myself, that you want to write off as Trump haters have repeatedly said that it's not about Trump. This should be about finding the truth and whoever is guilty should be prosecuted and punished, whether that includes Trump or not. Just because Pence would step up isn't a reason to let Trump get a pass either.
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are you familiar with Mueller's history? if not you should look into it....
 
thebigt said:
dr. Jeffrey macdonald/Olympic anthrax case/uranium one to name a few.
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What exactly are you accusing him of in regards to MacDonald?

Yes he messed up the investigation of the anthrax case. That's life.

What exactly are you accusing him of in regards to Uranium One? He was part of a very well documented transfer of a uranium sample found in Georgia to Russia for analysis. That sample was taken from uranium that was found during the capture of Russians by Georgia and the US while they were trying to sell it in Georgia.
 
Aleksandar37 said:
What exactly are you accusing him of in regards to MacDonald?

Yes he messed up the investigation of the anthrax case. That's life.

What exactly are you accusing him of in regards to Uranium One? He was part of a very well documented transfer of a uranium sample found in Georgia to Russia for analysis. That sample was taken from uranium that was found during the capture of Russians by Georgia and the US while they were trying to sell it in Georgia.
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i'm not accusing him of anything, I don't have nearly enough facts to do that...merely pointing out that he has been involved in controversies in his career, but in all honesty who hasn't. including trump!!!
 
Aleksandar37 said:
Which part? Melania came here on a fraud EB-1 visa while working as a model and hooker. Her parents are currently here, more than likely due to chain migration which Trump is supposedly against and wanted to end.
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I will assume you have some legitimate evidence about all of that and are just taking a few extra moments to upload it all.

From everything I have seen, she came here on a legitimate tourist visa. I have seen reports that indicate that she may have illegally worked as a model in the month before receiving a worker's visa. Then she got a green card and, ultimately, citizenship.

I have seen nothing reputable that indicates that she worked as a prostitute or that she came to the U.S. illegally, as you claimed.

I don't know what her parents being here today have to do with any of that. President Trump may want to end that, but, as far as I'm aware, he hasn't yet.
 
thebigt said:
i'm not accusing him of anything, I don't have nearly enough facts to do that...merely pointing out that he has been involved in controversies in his career, but in all honesty who hasn't. including trump!!!
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ummm...he's an attorney. Attorney's do indeed participate in trials. He has also worked for the federal government so he has indeed participated in a variety of roles there. And you are accusing him of things so be a big boy and out with it already.
 
jimbuick said:
I will assume you have some legitimate evidence about all of that and are just taking a few extra moments to upload it all.

From everything I have seen, she came here on a legitimate tourist visa. I have seen reports that indicate that she may have illegally worked as a model in the month before receiving a worker's visa. Then she got a green card and, ultimately, citizenship.

I have seen nothing reputable that indicates that she worked as a prostitute or that she came to the U.S. illegally, as you claimed.

I don't know what her parents being here today have to do with any of that. President Trump may want to end that, but, as far as I'm aware, he hasn't yet.
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Which part are you saying is false? That she had an EB-1 or that she was a hooker? I mentioned her parents because it follows along with the conversation on hypocrisy that you jumped into.
 
You said she was an illegal immigrant and a hooker. I'm not necessarily saying that is false, because I am certainly not privy to all of the info (and don't pretend to be); I am just saying that you have provided no evidence of those claims.

If she had a visa, she wasn't illegal, and you have provided no evidence of her being a hooker.
 
Aleksandar37 said:
ummm...he's an attorney. Attorney's do indeed participate in trials. He has also worked for the federal government so he has indeed participated in a variety of roles there. And you are accusing him of things so be a big boy and out with it already.
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dude are you freaking drunk again? I clearly stated that I wasn't accusing him of anything, just pointing out controversial cases he has been involved with.

your reply is so inept, you must be totally inebriated-get help!!!
 
thebigt said:
dude are you freaking drunk again? I clearly stated that I wasn't accusing him of anything, just pointing out controversial cases he has been involved with.

your reply is so inept, you must be totally inebriated-get help!!!
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Or you can grow a pair and actually stand behind your comments rather than these constant cop-outs. I do understand that Mueller upsets you though since he actually served honorably. We'll set you up a nice safe space where my big bad words can't hurt you.
 
Aleksandar37 said:
Or you can grow a pair and actually stand behind your comments rather than these constant cop-outs. I do understand that Mueller upsets you though since he actually served honorably. We'll set you up a nice safe space where my big bad words can't hurt you.
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go away boy....im tired of you!!!

come back when you sober up....
 
Aleksandar37 said:
We all have our vices. Mine allows me to enjoy a nice bourbon once a week; your requires you to register anytime you move and occassionaly appear on Dateline. Que sera, sera.
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just out of curiosity, do you have any friends-even just 1?
 
thebigt said:
lol...nice deflection...I take it you have NO friends-congrats!!!
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Here we go with the usual cycle. You keep accusing me of being drunk all the time and so I bring up something you bragged about in this thread. Everybody gets all upset at me, I don't give a ****, and life moves on. To answer your moronic question, yes, I have friends. Why does that matter to you?
 
For the record, I think you both are acting like children.

Also, if people in here generally get more upset with you than him, then it just means they have higher expectations of you.
 
Anybody care to explain how pardoning Scooter Libby is a good move or helps our country in any way? Also please add how it's not at all hypocritical for Trump to pardon this piece of **** who should have been shot for treason while tweeting about Comey's leaks in the same day.
 
Aleksandar37 said:
Anybody care to explain how pardoning Scooter Libby is a good move or helps our country in any way? Also please add how it's not at all hypocritical for Trump to pardon this piece of **** who should have been shot for treason while tweeting about Comey's leaks in the same day.
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I was thinking the same thing...Skrooter Labia committed obstruction of justice, so much for Hitlery's emails and hard drives. Now I guess obstruction of justice is ok.

How can one drain the swamp when they ARE the swamp!!!!!! Dump for the most part is Obama's 3rd term. Grrr make 'Merica great again!
 
Aleksandar37 said:
Anybody care to explain how pardoning Scooter Libby is a good move or helps our country in any way? Also please add how it's not at all hypocritical for Trump to pardon this piece of **** who should have been shot for treason while tweeting about Comey's leaks in the same day.
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Did someone here say it was a good move?

Why do you think it was such a bad move, and what did he do, in your opinion, that would warrant a death sentence for treason?

I'm not incredibly familiar with the case (I was pretty young back then), but my Google-fu said he was accused (and convicted) of obstruction and perjury, not anything warranting a death sentence.
 
jimbuick said:
Did someone here say it was a good move?

Why do you think it was such a bad move, and what did he do, in your opinion, that would warrant a death sentence for treason?

I'm not incredibly familiar with the case (I was pretty young back then), but my Google-fu said he was accused (and convicted) of obstruction and perjury, not anything warranting a death sentence.
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Did I say anybody here did?

Scooter Libby leaked the classified identity of a covert CIA agent, putting her life and possibly the lives of other agents in jeopardy, simply to get back at her husband. He then lied about it and was charged with perjury. The reason I am asking is for two reasons: 1) maybe there is an angle that I'm not seeing here because all I see is a piece of **** who betrayed his country and should be currently in the ground and 2) the Trump apologists here seem to not have any limit to what they'll make excuses for when they constantly rant about Democrats that have been caught lying.
 
Aleksandar37 said:
Did I say anybody here did?

Scooter Libby leaked the classified identity of a covert CIA agent, putting her life and possibly the lives of other agents in jeopardy, simply to get back at her husband. He then lied about it and was charged with perjury. The reason I am asking is for two reasons: 1) maybe there is an angle that I'm not seeing here because all I see is a piece of **** who betrayed his country and should be currently in the ground and 2) the Trump apologists here seem to not have any limit to what they'll make excuses for when they constantly rant about Democrats that have been caught lying.
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According to CNN, Dick Armitage admitted to leaking the name. Libby was jailed for perjury, or lying to the FBI, not leaking classified information.

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That mass murderer is now bombing Syria, reports are of explosions in Damascus. There is absolutely no proof the Syrian government used chemical weapons on their people. The people most likely responsible for the chemical attack (if it even happened) are the US backed Rebels, Saudi Arabia, Israel, CIA, MI6, etc...who had the absolute most to gain while Assad had absolutely and complete zero strategic benefit to do something like this, its almost impossible and I dont question Assad's intelligence. It would be only one of the most strategic blunders in military history, but for other interests there is everything to gain strategically with a false flag chemical attack. Now this is all assuming the rebels did not make fake video's which has been done many times in the past.

Regardless at the end of the day it looks like Dump will forever be known as a genocidalist. If he topples the government this will officially be Dump's Lybia. I have a feeling the Syrian Christians which Assad has been protecting will get hit the most post war.

I bet if we all out invade with ground troops the first thing we take are the oil pipelines. I can guarantee that. Hopefully he isnt going any further than blowing up old useless crap and not going to mass murder Syrians but we will see how this rolls out. Potential with a larger scale war including Russia is always possible. My prayers to all Syrians and world peace.
 
ax1 said:
That mass murderer is now bombing Syria, reports are of explosions in Damascus. There is absolutely no proof the Syrian government used chemical weapons on their people. The people most likely responsible for the chemical attack (if it even happened) are the US backed Rebels, Saudi Arabia, Israel, CIA, MI6, etc...who had the absolute most to gain while Assad had absolutely and complete zero strategic benefit to do something like this, its almost impossible and I dont question Assad's intelligence. It would be only one of the most strategic blunders in military history, but for other interests there is everything to gain strategically with a false flag chemical attack. Now this is all assuming the rebels did not make fake video's which has been done many times in the past.

Regardless at the end of the day it looks like Dump will forever be known as a genocidalist. If he topples the government this will officially be Dump's Lybia. I have a feeling the Syrian Christians which Assad has been protecting will get hit the most post war.

I bet if we all out invade with ground troops the first thing we take are the oil pipelines. I can guarantee that. Hopefully he isnt going any further than blowing up old useless crap and not going to mass murder Syrians but we will see how this rolls out. Potential with a larger scale war including Russia is always possible. My prayers to all Syrians and world peace.
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Mussad is giving the US targets to hit but don't want to get involved. Along with other NATO countries, cause they know if they get involved WWIII starts.
Every Veteran get your uniform and boots ready. You should get a phone call soon. Russia stated if US Warships fire anything, Russian Subs and warships will fire back.
 
DemntedCowboy said:
Mussad is giving the US targets to hit but don't want to get involved. Along with other NATO countries, cause they know if they get involved WWIII starts.
Every Veteran get your uniform and boots ready. You should get a phone call soon. Russia stated if US Warships fire anything, Russian Subs and warships will fire back.
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No matter what the reason and involvement, my deepest prayers to our troops. I put all blame on our policy makers. I hope all this all comes and goes just like the first strike last year and all our vets stay with their families.
 
Them missiles were meant for flying so that's just what they'll do.
From the reports is sounds russia backed out and turned off its radars so to speak. We shall see.
 
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