VECTOR pre release leaks and info

[Studhorse]

You obviously didn't read his post carefully. He has a great point, no need to attack him for it. I don't believe blr would do that, but studhorses poses were exactly what people do to enhance the results..and it really does work. In fact, I can link you to a video showing how it's done. Before anyone aims their daggers at me, once again, im not accusing anyone of anything! Im just supporting the posters right to question. The day anyone stops questioning things, is the day you hand over your brain to someone else.

"studhorses poses were exactly what people do to enhance the results"
I would like to see this video. please post it maybe my professional photographer, my wife and a cell phone can learn a few things.

To be honest with you I don't see much. the pictures are taken at different distances.

all I know is I actually gained 12 lbs in 46 days (had to look back at my log notes) and my pants got a little looser around the waste.
Note: I have no stake in BLR or there products.
But maybe brundel should send me some money now that i'm a pro! Whoooo

Bottom line is if you think its BS then don't buy it! That is what I would do.

 

[Studhorse]

Don’t lie about not being a model. Your 1993 Playgirl centerfold still counts.

Damn it you caught me. lmao

 

[Mack19]

I could give two sheets about the label as long as the product works and I don't won't BLR to get someone to pretty the product up and charge more money

 

[Mack19]

Just put a good product out !!!!

 

[Studhorse]

I half-jokingly already mentioned this to her. Considering her going rate is $35 an hour, and she said a label like this would take roughly 10 hours, I’m not sure Brundel is willing to dish out $350 for a new label. I will say, that’s on the lower end for freelance graphic designers, and she does some bang up work — but I don’t see BLR pumping out that kind of money if they’re not concerned about the appearance.

I bet he would put up $350 for a sweet label. no telling what he spent on the raws. Im sure $350 would be a piss in the sea.

 

[Mack19]

Fk the label - just hoping the product works - c'mon BLR show us the way

 

[mechka_grizli]

LET US ASK OURSELVES THIS QUESTION....

If Brundel got the containers in, noticed the mistakes on the label, and then told everyone the release would be delayed another 3-4 weeks because of it, how many of you would have said "f*ck the labels, just release the product?"

Can anyone in this thread say with complete honesty that they would rather wait 3 to 4 weeks for correct grammar on the label, instead of having the product released on the 6th????

 

[Mike NCR]

LET US ASK OURSELVES THIS QUESTION....

If Brundel got the containers in, noticed the mistakes on the label, and then told everyone the release would be delayed another 3-4 weeks because of it, how many of you would have said "f*ck the labels, just release the product?"

Can anyone in this thread say with complete honesty that they would rather wait 3 to 4 weeks for correct grammar on the label, instead of having the product released on the 6th????

This is a straw man example, as it wouldn't have taken 3 to 4 weeks to proofread the label. About 30 seconds maybe, after the 2 minutes it would take to find someone with a decent command of the English language to do it..

This is actually pretty common where I'm from (Canada), as there are a few small supplement companies in Quebec (a French-speaking province) cranking out products. The French text on the label is fine, but the English part looks like it was simply put through Google Translate. It's not that hard to find an English person in Canada to at least give it a proofread, even in Quebec.

 

[jt75]

All this bitch in about a fcuking label, all sounding like blr hat3rs!!
Shouldn't have bought the product in the first place. Just take it as directed and shut the fcuk up!

 

[jt75]

I know if my wife told me to return it I would. I’m also certain she would have looked past the label at the ingredients & studies behind them.

BLR’s products have proven themselves. If labels are what you’re after, there are plenty of companies who do them quite well.

Easy solution to your problem, sell them. Make sure your girl is cool with how much money you get for them.

Do you always do what your wife tells you to do?

 

[BBiceps]

I think acknowledging there are mistakes would’ve been key. It rubs me the wrong way when something as simple as asking a friend to proofread before publishing to the masses wasn’t even done. I would’ve done it. You probably would’ve done it. I just wish there was some sort of attention to detail... any at all. I don’t think that’s an unreasonable ask... And the bigger question, now that BLR knows mistakes have been made, will there be adjustments? To accept and take responsibility for your mistakes and be willing to make changes is a noble thing, and I’d respect them for that. To be stubborn, not acknowledge errors, and not change despite all of this is just being neglectful and bush league. I’m hoping there’s a change. He can even hit me up for assistance if he wants. For the sake of professionalism, adjustments really should be made.

You’re not very fun at parties huh?

 

[jt75]

You’re not very fun at parties huh?

He'd get ****ed out of a window at one of my parties

 

[Transhuman]

He'd get ****ed out of a window at one of my parties

Sure he would.

 

[mechka_grizli]

I think acknowledging there are mistakes would’ve been key. It rubs me the wrong way when something as simple as asking a friend to proofread before publishing to the masses wasn’t even done. I would’ve done it. You probably would’ve done it. I just wish there was some sort of attention to detail... any at all. I don’t think that’s an unreasonable ask... And the bigger question, now that BLR knows mistakes have been made, will there be adjustments? To accept and take responsibility for your mistakes and be willing to make changes is a noble thing, and I’d respect them for that. To be stubborn, not acknowledge errors, and not change despite all of this is just being neglectful and bush league. I’m hoping there’s a change. He can even hit me up for assistance if he wants. For the sake of professionalism, adjustments really should be made.

This is a straw man example, as it wouldn't have taken 3 to 4 weeks to proofread the label. About 30 seconds maybe, after the 2 minutes it would take to find someone with a decent command of the English language to do it..

This is actually pretty common where I'm from (Canada), as there are a few small supplement companies in Quebec (a French-speaking province) cranking out products. The French text on the label is fine, but the English part looks like it was simply put through Google Translate. It's not that hard to find an English person in Canada to at least give it a proofread, even in Quebec.

It was released 3 days ago not weeks. People are just now getting the product in hand. Give him a change to respond to these posts before saying he hasn't acknowledged anything.

 

[robshef]

Honestly no disrespect to the model. I’m sure he trains very hard. But if your promoting something that is gonna rock our world. Im not sold on his physique after taking this supplement. How many testers were there and if it’s that effective where are their pics for comparison. Would love to see different age groups. I’ll back off. Spelling on the label should be critical of a company. I know my grammar and spelling isn’t perfect but I’m not selling the promise pill. Would you take a prescription drug to help prolong your life and noticed it was spelled wrong ?? How foolish can one be? Yes, I know the reputation of black lion. Not here to bash or discredit. But definitely odd and suspicious. Make you own decisions.

Pretty sure no one is taking vector to "prolong their life."

 

[jt75]

Sure he would.

Transhuman what is your problem with me? You don't know me but yet you neg repped me several times in a row a cpl weeks ago when I was having problems with a rep from another company and admin had to step in?
Looks like your here with a ulterior motive and an agenda.

 

[BlockBuilder]

To be perfectly fair and honest I like the labels to look professional as well but I know it means nothing as far as quality of the product goes. I have seen grammar errors on evomuse and serious Nutrition solutions products. I dare someone to tell me they don’t put out good products. I can post a pic right now if you’d like

 

[toddmuelheim]

Has anybody tried vector yet? I know it’s designed to work over time, but wondering if there’s any acute differences people are noticing.

 

[taylor8461]

Has anybody tried vector yet? I know it’s designed to work over time, but wondering if there’s any acute differences people are noticing.

Lmao ask again in like two weeks people are just now getting their bottles

 

[toddmuelheim]

Lmao ask again in like two weeks people are just now getting their bottles

If someone has had even a single workout, they may or may not notice something. Hence my “acute benefits” comment.

 

[jt75]

Probably libido change may be noticed first

 

[max silver]

I'm not taking sides on the issue, but I don't see a reason to attack him. He has a valid concern. There is a huge difference between making a quick post on your phone on a bb forum vs. making sure your grammer is correct on a products label. If I saw a label like this at the vitamin shoppe, I would have the same concerns. Can't we ever have a discussion in here without automatically trying to shut someone down?

The man is certainly entitled to his opinion, no denying that. I simply disagree with his opinion. My post was more intended to point out how deliciously ironic it was that he was so concerned about some formatting errors on a label when his own post contained similar issues. The fact that he was puffing out his chest pimping out his technical writing ability was the icing on the cake.

 

[Mission1]

What is it that you are looking for?

Maybe different results in physique. See how it’s use in a lean or cut style or lean bulk? How about a variation in a certain age group. If you had let’s say 5 testers at different levels I would love to see different ages, heights, weight, etc. Nothing crazy. Not asking for there dna and blood type. Is that fair. If there’s more testers why one set of pics from person . Remember I like BLR and order consistently.

 

[max silver]

Pretty sure no one is taking vector to "prolong their life."

I totally agree here. I find it surprising that a few individuals here fully expect supplement manufacturers to be held to the same standards as pharmaceutical companies. If this were the case, we would have next to no new ingredients/supplements to try out, as everything that was discovered would be subject to years of clinical trials before release. I shudder to think how much our supplements would cost if this were the case as well.

The whole label kerfuffle is totally making mountains out of molehills. To suggest that some formatting errors and poor wording on the label somehow diminishes the quality of the product inside the bottle is a huge stretch. The label is just window dressing. I do agree that it looks unprofessional that it slipped into production, but keep in mind that all of this product was rushed to an online supplement retailer, and may not even reflect the final intended retail release of the product, for all we know it was a placeholder that slipped out into production. Do we all need personal apologies because the label has room for improvement? Are we really that entitled in this day and age that this really matters to us?

 

[max silver]

Maybe different results in physique. See how it’s use in a lean or cut style or lean bulk? How about a variation in a certain age group. If you had let’s say 5 testers at different levels I would love to see different ages, heights, weight, etc. Nothing crazy. Not asking for there dna and blood type. Is that fair. If there’s more testers why one set of pics from person Remember I like BLR and order consistently.

I definitely agree with you here. We have been provided with tester data, but very little in the way of photographic evidence. I suspect though if we are a little patient, there is going to be an explosion of logs and reports on here for this product as people get Vector into their hands.

 

[jt75]

Instead of bickering let's just wait until brundel is available to explain what went wrong

 

[TheMovement]

Maybe different results in physique. See how it’s use in a lean or cut style or lean bulk? How about a variation in a certain age group. If you had let’s say 5 testers at different levels I would love to see different ages, heights, weight, etc. Nothing crazy. Not asking for there dna and blood type. Is that fair. If there’s more testers why one set of pics from person Remember I like BLR and order consistently.

Honestly I didn’t expect to see such results. I don’t think many of the testers even knew that the product would come out to being Vect! I was an eye opener for me and I’m 28, 6’3 and was up around 250 when I was within my prime with this product. I even had concerns of negative effects so brundel allowed me to run it at an even higher dose and the only negative that I actually observed was a sleep disturbance. I think I may have been among the youngest, I have been eating at around 5500 calories, and had actually felt the best I had in a long time. Strength increases, increased performance in the bedroom as well as the workplace, and I could actually enjoy eating food again. I’m a pretty quantitative guy so instead of pictures I relied on my bf% with circumference measurements.

I do plan on using it for a cut while in a deficit. I do believe I have the willpower and the benefits are amazing.

 

[horizons]

Honestly I didn’t expect to see such results. I don’t think many of the testers even knew that the product would come out to being Vect! I was an eye opener for me and I’m 28, 6’3 and was up around 250 when I was within my prime with this product. I even had concerns of negative effects so brundel allowed me to run it at an even higher dose and the only negative that I actually observed was a sleep disturbance. I think I may have been among the youngest, I have been eating at around 5500 calories, and had actually felt the best I had in a long time. Strength increases, increased performance in the bedroom as well as the workplace, and I could actually enjoy eating food again. I’m a pretty quantitative guy so instead of pictures I relied on my bf% with circumference measurements.

I do plan on using it for a cut while in a deficit. I do believe I have the willpower and the benefits are amazing.

Any hair loss? Lol

 

[justhere4comm]

Hell in the future, contact me to do the write-ups for you. I’m in grad school now doing research papers on chemicals and exercises. Provide me the peer-reviewed studies, and I’ll do the summarization. Just, please, put it through some type of vetting process. Good luck y’all.

One thing that I'd like to respectfully point out. You stated you purchased four tubs, but only photographed one of them.
It's a detail I know, but let's see all four of your tubs.

You certainly have a very interesting methodology for applying for a job. I think you would agree as to why it may be a hard pass. brundel? I could be wrong.

I'm sure the label will be fixed, but the product inside is already G2G. Take it, return it, or sell it. You wouldn't be losing anything by selling it on AM. I'm sure there would be plenty of takers with PayPal at the ready.



-M, M.Ed.


Edit:
(In an effort of transparency, and those on mobile devices, you don't get the benefit of seeing whom is a rep for a company or not, so I am trying to add this into my posts. I represent Black Lion Research, and as an added benefit can use MARK15 for 15% price reductions for all products currently sold on http://www.blacklionresearch.com)

 

[Mission1]

I definitely agree with you here. We have been provided with tester data, but very little in the way of photographic evidence. I suspect though if we are a little patient, there is going to be an explosion of logs and reports on here for this product as people get Vector into their hands.

Thank you. Honestly proof is in the pudding. Funny thing is most pictures that get posted are before and after are people that are on gear. My vision especially in this area of a natural anabolic is seeing it, is believing it. Kudos to the first example of the product. I’m sure he work very hard to get his gains. I’ll sit back and relax and watch the logs. In reality everybody gets different results and I understand that. I would of pushed back a little longer maybe fix the bottle labels which someone needs to be held accountable for. And yes I know some don’t give a crap and I would of shown more testers achievements with the product and really create the frenzy. Like putting blood in the water and watch the sharks go crazy.

 

[jt75]

One thing that I'd like to respectfully point out. You stated you purchased four tubs, but only photographed one of them.
It's a detail I know, but let's see all four of your tubs.

You certainly have a very interesting methodology for applying for a job. I think you would agree as to why it may be a hard pass. brundel? I could be wrong.

I'm sure the label will be fixed, but the product inside is already G2G. Take it or sell it my good man.



-M, M.Ed.

100% correct!!
If you were dubious you'd buy 1 but he bought 4 because he trusts in brundel and has faith that the product will deliver, and now he doubts the effectiveness of the contents because of a label, idiot!

 

[banjobounce]

brundel is there anything that we should avoid taking around Vector.... ie. berberine, forskolin, etc?

 

[jt75]

You sound like a really pleasant guy, jt75. Quite the internet bully you are. You must be so swole. I bought four bc of the hype. I love dabbling in new supps. I’m disappointed bc of the attached pic.View attachment 161506 No, I’m not expecting Brundel to be confused with Ernest Hemingway. Im not expecting OL or MT fancy labels. I was just expecting to get something kind of professional looking — and sounding — and it’s not. So that’s where we stand. But, feel free to continue to attack me bc I’m disappointed my new supplement bottle looks like it not only contains Chinese plants but also appears to have been written by a Chinese worker with little grasp of the English language. It looks like the description in one of those spam emails about a miracle diet pill. No one can deny that. If you received that picture in an email about a new supp, you’d hit the “trash” button faster than you’ll hit me back with another asinine comment. I’m going to try Vector out after I hear back from some people that try it out first. Maybe in a week or two. I’m still allowed to think the effort put into the finishing touches on this are crap.

I'm a bully because I called you an idiot??
Man up and grow up gravy vampire

 

[banjobounce]

You sound like a really pleasant guy, jt75. Quite the internet bully you are. You must be so swole. I bought four bc of the hype. I love dabbling in new supps. I’m disappointed bc of the attached pic.View attachment 161506 No, I’m not expecting Brundel to be confused with Ernest Hemingway. Im not expecting OL or MT fancy labels. I was just expecting to get something kind of professional looking — and sounding — and it’s not. So that’s where we stand. But, feel free to continue to attack me bc I’m disappointed my new supplement bottle looks like it not only contains Chinese plants but also appears to have been written by a Chinese worker with little grasp of the English language. It looks like the description in one of those spam emails about a miracle diet pill. No one can deny that. If you received that picture in an email about a new supp, you’d hit the “trash” button faster than you’ll hit me back with another asinine comment. I’m going to try Vector out after I hear back from some people that try it out first. Maybe in a week or two. I’m still allowed to think the effort put into the finishing touches on this are crap.

I can see where you are coming from man, but the label obviously says KOREAN mistletoe. All jokes aside, if this stuff works, I would rather have a lower cost of a final product than paying extra for a better looking tub. That's just my opinion though. .... But, yeah, the grammar caught my attention too.

 

[coltonwalker]

Funny how we can turn a pre release thread into an unneeded, ridiculous argument. I for one got my 3 tubs and started with 2 caps this morning. Love follidrone, time for VECTOR. thanks brundel for the new shiz.

 

[jt75]

Funny how we can turn a pre release thread into an unneeded, ridiculous argument. I for one got my 3 tubs and started with 2 caps this morning. Love follidrone, time for VECTOR. thanks brundel for the new shiz.

This^^^^^^^
That's what we need in here, optimism not pessimism

 

[BlockBuilder]

Anyone remember elite muscles. I used to laugh at some of the misspellings on the bottles but by god that man made amazingly pure products. Company went under because the guy who owned it got really sick. Not sure what happened to him

 

[justhere4comm]

Anyone remember elite muscles. I used to laugh at some of the misspellings on the bottles but by god that man made amazingly pure products. Company went under because the guy who owned it got really sick. Not sure what happened to him

He got better, won the lottery; bought an island in the pacific rim; made an entire tribe of people with several wives then died in bed with a smile on his face. That man was my father...

j/k. <- was this really necessary?

 

[Mission1]

Funny how we can turn a pre release thread into an unneeded, ridiculous argument. I for one got my 3 tubs and started with 2 caps this morning. Love follidrone, time for VECTOR. thanks brundel for the new shiz.

I think it’s a discussion.

 

[justhere4comm]

I think it’s a discussion.

It is a discussion and an argument both depending on points of view. You just argued it's a discussion.
In an effort to progress the discussion, I'm both looking forward to seeing how people view the product after taking it, and seeing his 4 tubs. I'm just a little pedantic, and CDO.

 

[jt75]

I think it’s a discussion.

You think it's a discussion because that's your opinion, he thinks an unneeded ridiculous argument because that's his opinion

 

[jt75]

Yip let's see the 4 tubs

 

[Mission1]

It is a discussion and an argument both depending on points of view. You just argued it's a discussion.
In an effort to progress the discussion, I'm both looking forward to seeing how people view the product after taking it, and seeing his 4 tubs. I'm just a little pedantic, and CDO.

I agree totally.

 

[Jpv20]

Thank you. Honestly proof is in the pudding. Funny thing is most pictures that get posted are before and after are people that are on gear. My vision especially in this area of a natural anabolic is seeing it, is believing it. Kudos to the first example of the product. I’m sure he work very hard to get his gains. I’ll sit back and relax and watch the logs. In reality everybody gets different results and I understand that. I would of pushed back a little longer maybe fix the bottle labels which someone needs to be held accountable for. And yes I know some don’t give a crap and I would of shown more testers achievements with the product and really create the frenzy. Like putting blood in the water and watch the sharks go crazy.

Bro, we already discussed and most of us agree.

Is time to move on.. and if you not interested in the product, there’s no point of coming here to keep talking of same topic..just don’t buy it if you don’t want to. Is you to choose, no one is obligating you to buy or use lol.

 

[Mission1]

You think it's a discussion because that's your opinion, he thinks an unneeded ridiculous argument because that's his opinion

And it can go on forever. Let the games begin. Before and after pics are where it’s always been. I could care less about labs at this point. Have fun.

 

[Mission1]

Bro, we already discussed and most of us agree.

Is time to move on.. and if you not interested in the product, there’s no point of coming here to keep talking of same topic..just don’t buy it if you don’t want to. Is you to choose, no one is obligating you to buy or use lol.

Just my closing comments. Im finished. I don’t need you to tell me want I can or cannot do

 

[justhere4comm]

And it can go on forever. Let the games begin. Before and after pics are where it’s always been. I could care less about labs at this point. Have fun.

Yes! I don't know any company on AM that provides labs, and can quote them if needed on the arguments for against labs.
I do have labs with LETRONE though, and the E2 drop. I can probably dig them up from 2016.

BLR products are solid; effective; and will not be copied. (Attempts for sure will be made as in the past).
Still waiting on the picture of the 4 tubs GravyVampire.

 

[Jpv20]

Just my closing comments. Im finished. I don’t need you to tell me want I can or cannot do

Good.. finally

 

[jt75]

Just my closing comments. Im finished. I don’t need you to tell me want I can or cannot do

Shut the door on the way out

 

[jt75]

View attachment 161507

Since you seem hung up on a pic of my stash, here you go. I put your fav part of the label facing the camera, and I put my personal favorite stack on top. If Vector comes close to OG Anabeta + Massacr3 stack, I’ll be very impressed. Also, a little taste of a very well done simple design and a very well done artistic design on both the Anabeta and Massacr3 bottle.

Massacr3 lol