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Transformation & Physique Goal Challenge 2018! Let's get it done!!!

JCR97 said:
Currently on week 5 of 6 of my LGD cycle then I’m going complete natty without natty sups and I’ll be on pct during this contest. So you guys tell me if it’s natty or not? Pct won’t have any peptides just nolva and a bit of exemestane. If you guys say I’m in the enhanced I’ll just extend the run. So up to you guys it doesn’t matter much to me. Also just hit my goal of 205. I’m a bit fluffy but I’m ok with that. Invalid Link Removed
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Congratulations on the 205!!!! Me I am fine with it being Natty, you will have a disadvantage there in my opinion. Coming off of a cycle into PCT is typically a very hard time to make improvements. So for me personally you could be natty...
HIT4ME said:
Yeah, my point is, I was late to the game so I don't want to take anything from anyone who was on time...but I won't say no. Regardless, all I wanna do is stop making excuses and kick azz and take names.

As far as the glutamine, I agree with that 100%. The thing for me with the Vitamin C is just experience. I've noticed that when I routinely take 4-6 grams of vitamin C a day, I rarely get sick (like once every few years). The C is not foolproof and normally I get taken down when EVERYONE in my family gets sick. When I go to work and everyone is sick, visit my parents and they are sick, and go home to my sick gf - I'm screwed.

Last time I was sick was in this same situation. People at work had whatever it was, then my mom and dad got it, and then my gf and then me. Everyone who had that cold was in bed for literally a week and sick for 2 weeks. No exaggeration at all. I was working one afternoon and my head started feeling like SH1T and I took off work an hour early, went home and started downing Vitamin C like this in mega doses. The next day I went to work, a little sick and the next day after that I was fine. I literally got over something that put people in bed for a week and kept them sick for 2 in about 36 hours and only missed 1 hour of work. Is it scientific? Heck no. Does it sound like crazy talk? Yes, it certainly does. Absolutely. But I will tell you what, for $30/KG if I go spend $6 when I'm about to get sick and get explosive diarrhea and get over it in a day, I'm not gonna fight it. If it's placebo, it's well worth it.

I also credit Gut Health to keeping me from getting sick too.

And I truly believe whey proteins have a lot of immune promoting properties, including their glutamine content.



Pfffft. Natty, not natty, whatever. I'm still gonna kick your butt.
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I know what your point was but I want you in this one, it isn't like you are getting extra days to turn in your last pic because your first was a few days late. Means you have 11.5 weeks from your pic instead of the 12 that I had.

Keep notes on the above regarding the 11.5 weeks compared to my 12... Why you ask?


You are going to need an excuse as to why I whooped your tail!!!!!

JCR97 said:
I’m loving the feistiness
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Yeah this is the fun part because once we talk a little mess we really have to work harder to back it up!
Mowglisml said:
Increased my protein this week and lowered my carbs.
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Nice, so same caloric intake just adjusting macros at this point?
JCR97 said:
Just remember when you skimp out on the diet someone else isn’t
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AMEN! That goes for cardio, and or skipping a workout!
 
MrKleen73 said:
Yeah this is the fun part because once we talk a little mess we really have to work harder to back it up!
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Pffftt. Hard work, hardly working. It don't matter. I'm still gonna kick your butt.

[video=youtube;K5o1rd09R1Q]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5o1rd09R1Q[/video]
 
That’s correct kleen. I’ve been doing good (hunger wise) at the cals i’ve been working with 1550-1700 cals. Some days i really need the 1700 cals. For instance yesterday after legs. I felt that i needed to adjust macros a bit and see how I do.
 
HIT4ME said:
Pffftt. Hard work, hardly working. It don't matter. I'm still gonna kick your butt.

[video=youtube;K5o1rd09R1Q]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5o1rd09R1Q[/video]
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The closest you are ever going to get to kicking my butt is if I accidentally sat on your foot!
 
My running sucks. But it's time to start working on it.

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MrKleen73 said:
The closest you are ever going to get to kicking my butt is if I accidentally sat on your foot!
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Yeah, Pretty much what I've been saying. I don't even need to raise my foot. Eventually, you will just give up and need a break, and BAM! No effort on my part.
 
Finally coming off 3days of Throwing up and Sh1tting due to food poisoning. Lost about 4lbs. So, lost an extra pound of what I gained for my lean bulk. Awuful start to my bulk. Will start training on Thursday. Just giving my body to heal 100% before hitting the gym.
 
HIT4ME said:
Yeah, Pretty much what I've been saying. I don't even need to raise my foot. Eventually, you will just give up and need a break, and BAM! No effort on my part.
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LOL. I am gonna have to give creativity points for tying that one in slickly! Not sure how well it works as trash talk, but one hell of a tie in!!!
 
jtmass said:
Finally coming off 3days of Throwing up and Sh1tting due to food poisoning. Lost about 4lbs. So, lost an extra pound of what I gained for my lean bulk. Awuful start to my bulk. Will start training on Thursday. Just giving my body to heal 100% before hitting the gym.
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Get that food back in and you will be alright. Fill those glycogen stores back up and get plenty hydrated. Be a great time for some vegetable glycerine to help with that.
 
Transformation & Physique Goal Challenge 2018! Let's get it done!!!

Part of me is happy I no longer have to bulk kinda sick of eating a **** tonne lol so jtmass no worries muscle isn’t lost in a few days. Basically you just did a mini fast. And itll burn a bit of fat leaving you for room to bulk a little dirtier.
 
jtmass said:
Finally coming off 3days of Throwing up and Sh1tting due to food poisoning. Lost about 4lbs. So, lost an extra pound of what I gained for my lean bulk. Awuful start to my bulk. Will start training on Thursday. Just giving my body to heal 100% before hitting the gym.
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Yuck. Get better and don't worry about the weight, it wasn't muscle mass. It will come right back once you get better.

MrKleen73 said:
LOL. I am gonna have to give creativity points for tying that one in slickly! Not sure how well it works as trash talk, but one hell of a tie in!!!
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Yeah, you had the good comeback, I couldn't just let it stand...but there wasn't much room to go with it.
 
HIT4ME said:
Yuck. Get better and don't worry about the weight, it wasn't muscle mass. It will come right back once you get better.



Yeah, you had the good comeback, I couldn't just let it stand...but there wasn't much room to go with it.
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Yeah but it was clever and made me laugh out loud! Just like when you say you're going to beat me!!!
 
JCR97 said:
Part of me is happy I no longer have to bulk kinda sick of eating a **** tonne lol so jtmass no worries muscle isn’t lost in a few days. Basically you just did a mini fast. And itll burn a bit of fat leaving you for room to bulk a little dirtier.
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Just feeling weak. In the mirror I look the same though. This bulk is not going to be dirty at all. I may indulge in some funonce in couple weeks though.
HIT4ME said:
Yuck. Get better and don't worry about the weight, it wasn't muscle mass. It will come right back once you get better.
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It’s just the feeling of being weak and sick. Will get back stronger in a couple days.

Thanks guys...
 
jtmass said:
Just feeling weak. In the mirror I look the same though. This bulk is not going to be dirty at all. I may indulge in some funonce in couple weeks though.

It’s just the feeling of being weak and sick. Will get back stronger in a couple days.

Thanks guys...
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Hydration Hydration Hydration! Water, Electrolytes and Carbs for a quicker recovery.
 
MrKleen73 said:
I am really contemplating putting myself in the Natty category here. If no one has a problem with me being on real TRT that is. It has been a little while since I really pushed myself without any chemical assistance. I kind of want to see what I can do here. Plus I think I am really going to be focusing more on getting healthier in the process so not hopping on anything during this time makes more sense with that goal.

So does anyone have any issue with me being in the natty group while taking my prescribed testosterone dose? I will end up running some natty supps with this set up too, as I imagine most are but since on TRT I wanted to get everyone's buy in on the "Natty" selection for me.
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fine by me! trt only puts you on an even playing field with the younger guys anyways so no reason to discount that.
 
MrKleen73 said:
Yeah but it was clever and made me laugh out loud! Just like when you say you're going to beat me!!!
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Boom!

But, for real, seriously, it's a good thing you're bald or someone might confuse you for my redheaded step child with the beating that's in store for you.
 
booneman77 said:
fine by me! trt only puts you on an even playing field with the younger guys anyways so no reason to discount that.
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Good deal, I think this being the case that I will be closer to 200 possibly even under at the end of this. Without any PED's this will end up being a cut until I reach my desired bodyfat levels. So really just going to to focus on leaning up, getting in better condition, and trying to maintain most of my muscle mass.
 
HIT4ME said:
Boom!

But, for real, seriously, it's a good thing you're bald or someone might confuse you for my redheaded step child with the beating that's in store for you.
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Shhhh... quick delete that one and no one will notice you are reaching! ;)
 
MrKleen73 said:
Good deal, I think this being the case that I will be closer to 200 possibly even under at the end of this. Without any PED's this will end up being a cut until I reach my desired bodyfat levels. So really just going to to focus on leaning up, getting in better condition, and trying to maintain most of my muscle mass.
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I think I will shoot for the same. Leaning up and hopefully keep some muscle mass.
 
Studhorse said:
I think I will shoot for the same. Leaning up and hopefully keep some muscle mass.
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Good! Now I have my sights set on you too!

We are in about the same shape, lets push each other to see who can come out of this looking the best. Faces don't count. I already know I am ugly, so that is an easy win for you! ;) Plus I am excited to see you trim down to abs. All that muscle you get lean you are going to look unreal!

It's a win win, no one can lose if we all improve!
 
MrKleen73 said:
Good! Now I have my sights set on you too!

We are in about the same shape, lets push each other to see who can come out of this looking the best. Faces don't count. I already know I am ugly, so that is an easy win for you! ;) Plus I am excited to see you trim down to abs. All that muscle you get lean you are going to look unreal!

It's a win win, no one can lose if we all improve!
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I will see if I can get close to you brother? If I can be 1/2 of what you are I will consider it a win.
FYI: I just had some birthday cake! getting off to a great start!
 
Studhorse said:
I will see if I can get close to you brother? If I can be 1/2 of what you are I will consider it a win.
FYI: I just had some birthday cake! getting off to a great start!
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Don't be humble, be competitive! Nothing any more impressive about my physique than yours brother. We are both muscular beasts! You just can't see yourself through other people's eyes.
 
MrKleen73 said:
Don't be humble, be competitive! Nothing any more impressive about my physique than yours brother. We are both muscular beasts! You just can't see yourself through other people's eyes.
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OKAY! Bring it Bitch............:dance2:
 
Just gonna let you guys destroy each other and calmly step over the carnage...
 
jtmass said:
Finally coming off 3days of Throwing up and Sh1tting due to food poisoning. Lost about 4lbs. So, lost an extra pound of what I gained for my lean bulk. Awuful start to my bulk. Will start training on Thursday. Just giving my body to heal 100% before hitting the gym.
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That is the worst! Makes your abs look good after you have tossed your cookies!
 
Studhorse said:
OKAY! Bring it Bitch............:dance2:
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That's more like it!!!

and back to you I say

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booneman77 said:
Just gonna let you guys destroy each other and calmly step over the carnage...
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If you think you are gonna slide by me unaware you have lost it! I already know you are a dark horse. Head down doing what is needed without fanfare and then BOOM! Look what i did!!!

No Sir! I am going to keep an eye on you! I know you have even bigger reasons for motivation, and now being on keto... FUGGEDABOUDIT! :) You are a definite threat! We all are really, you have the best reason to really try to lean up. At least that I know of so that is some good motivation that isn't going to wain at all.
Studhorse and I have to make up more motivation via competitiveness to get on your motivation level.
 
Doing some intermittent fasting today, and probably over the next few days, with a trip to the beach going down this weekend...coming up on 19 hours with nothing but some BCAAs and 150 calories of MCT powder...ugh.

I sure do love my gf!
 
Ok, I forget what I said I had done for squats when I jumped in, but I think I was wrong. I got 255 x 14 and 285 x 5 last workout.

Just completed tonight's workout and got 265 x 12 and 295 x 3 on squats.

Bench: 185 x 13 and then a drop set of 2 x 235, 1 x 225, 2 x 215, 2 x 205, 2 x 195, 1 x 185.

Barbell curls: 12 x 80, drop set of 5 x 95, 1 x 90, 1 x 85, 1 x 80, 1 x 75.

Lying French presses: 13 x 61, 3 x 91.

That's it for tonight.
 
Hyde said:
Doing some intermittent fasting today, and probably over the next few days, with a trip to the beach going down this weekend...coming up on 19 hours with nothing but some BCAAs and 150 calories of MCT powder...ugh.

I sure do love my gf!
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Smart Man! I hope you really enjoy your weekend!

I have no idea what my nutrition is going to look like for the next couple of days. Work is sending me to San Franciso this afternoon and I won't be back until Saturday. So nutrition is all going to be from what is around me. I plan on doing IF as well since I don't know how well I will be able to hone the diet. Plus I will be in a new city I have never been too. I am going to check some stuff out end enjoy my visit. Have a couple fingers of bourbon or whiskey as a night cap. I already know this, so caloric restriction will be during the day. Basically aminos and I plan on buying a box of lower carb protein bars once I get there. Not ideal but as long as protein is over 150 and calories are between 1500-3000 a day then I should make some more progress regardless.

HIT4ME said:
Ok, I forget what I said I had done for squats when I jumped in, but I think I was wrong. I got 255 x 14 and 285 x 5 last workout.

Just completed tonight's workout and got 265 x 12 and 295 x 3 on squats.

Bench: 185 x 13 and then a drop set of 2 x 235, 1 x 225, 2 x 215, 2 x 205, 2 x 195, 1 x 185.

Barbell curls: 12 x 80, drop set of 5 x 95, 1 x 90, 1 x 85, 1 x 80, 1 x 75.

Lying French presses: 13 x 61, 3 x 91.

That's it for tonight.
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Nice work!

Deepwatercook said:
Anyone else only on a multivitamin like myself ? Lol all i can afford last 8 months
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No, but most of us don't have the discipline of a fighter either! I think you still have an advantage over me with discipline over supplementation. By the way, what's your record?
hairygrandpa said:
You can afford a Multivitamin? I'm only on one, LOL!
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Yep and ONE is VITAMIN D!!! Yeah you know what I am saying here! ;)
 
Checking in - down to 201.4 pounds this morning. I figured I would rebound after the Vitamin C, but I am down another pound. 7 pounds in 2 days. At this rate I should hit my goals in....I don't know...next week?

Would be nice. Wishful thinking haha.

On the flip side, maybe I was holding water and kind of unintentionally sandbagged...
 
Also, I can't afford a multi-vitamin. I take 10,000 IU of vitamin D per day, 4-6 grams (scoop powder, don't weigh) of Vitamin C per day, 6 grams of fish oil and 1/2 gram of TUDCA. Mostly because I had stock and it hasn't run out yet. My multi's ran out a while back.
 
HIT4ME said:
Checking in - down to 201.4 pounds this morning. I figured I would rebound after the Vitamin C, but I am down another pound. 7 pounds in 2 days. At this rate I should hit my goals in....I don't know...next week?

Would be nice. Wishful thinking haha.

On the flip side, maybe I was holding water and kind of unintentionally sandbagged...
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As long as it was unintentional... :)
I don't take a multi, but I do take greens powder when I remember too. I feel it probably has more bio-availability that way, but I should get into the habit of taking a multi too.
 
HIT4ME said:
Also, I can't afford a multi-vitamin. I take 10,000 IU of vitamin D per day, 4-6 grams (scoop powder, don't weigh) of Vitamin C per day, 6 grams of fish oil and 1/2 gram of TUDCA. Mostly because I had stock and it hasn't run out yet. My multi's ran out a while back.
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I call shenanigans on that. Plenty of people don’t take a multi and that’s fine, but don’t make excuses for the sake of it. TUDCA costs way more than an expensive comprehensive multi, and you can buy a cheapo at a big box store for about $6 for months.

If you’re an adult male with a job in America, you can afford a multi if you want one.
 
Hyde said:
I call shenanigans on that. Plenty of people don’t take a multi and that’s fine, but don’t make excuses for the sake of it. TUDCA costs way more than an expensive comprehensive multi, and you can buy a cheapo at a big box store for about $6 for months.

If you’re an adult male with a job in America, you can afford a multi if you want one.
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Tuff Love ...I Like It!!
 
Hyde said:
I call shenanigans on that. Plenty of people don’t take a multi and that’s fine, but don’t make excuses for the sake of it. TUDCA costs way more than an expensive comprehensive multi, and you can buy a cheapo at a big box store for about $6 for months.

If you’re an adult male with a job in America, you can afford a multi if you want one.
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Lol, wasn't it obvious?
 
Speaking generally, people say they want to accomplish X, but then they will convince themselves of 5 different reasons why they can’t right now.

It’s not always easy, and sometimes it can be very long and hard, but it’s almost always worth it.
 
Hyde said:
You would be surprised at the excuses I hear daily for why people won’t step out and do what they say they want
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Lol, well...keep in mind I don't have a job that pays me a paycheck in a regular basis. I haven't bought any supplements maybe in about 6 months with the exception if the fish oil. I tend to buy a bunch and stock up. I ran out of the multis I use...and well...I could get another or more but I don't really want to. Haha. You are dead right there.

Hyde said:
Speaking generally, people say they want to accomplish X, but then they will convince themselves of 5 different reasons why they can’t right now.

It’s not always easy, and sometimes it can be very long and hard, but it’s almost always worth it.
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You are 100% right. Must people want to want things. We all do it. Mist people don't even really know what they want, they are busy spending too much time focusing on what they don't want.
 
Weighed in 221 this morn. Been a hectic few days but still able to grind it out. Cleaning up diet (I’ve had a few extra cheat days the past month during PCT) and I have been using IF randomly the past 6 months (keto coffee works wonders in this regard) and plan to continue on. Not expecting anything too drastic as I am stubborn and refuse to give up on strength. I know I can lean out and keep numbers climbing with a diet tune up. I have been chasing a 4 plate bench for a while now and it’s happening in 2018.
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Looking great, guys!
 
SkRaw85 said:
Weighed in 221 this morn. Been a hectic few days but still able to grind it out. Cleaning up diet (I’ve had a few extra cheat days the past month during PCT) and I have been using IF randomly the past 6 months (keto coffee works wonders in this regard) and plan to continue on. Not expecting anything too drastic as I am stubborn and refuse to give up on strength. I know I can lean out and keep numbers climbing with a diet tune up. I have been chasing a 4 plate bench for a while now and it’s happening in 2018.
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"I am stubborn and refuse to give up on strength" I have been fighting this for 35 years! I think I'm just going to try to cut some fat and If I lose some strength, Just try to deal with the mental part of it. wish me luck!

I can always put it back on if it gets to me too much.
 
SkRaw85 said:
Weighed in 221 this morn. Been a hectic few days but still able to grind it out. Cleaning up diet (I’ve had a few extra cheat days the past month during PCT) and I have been using IF randomly the past 6 months (keto coffee works wonders in this regard) and plan to continue on. Not expecting anything too drastic as I am stubborn and refuse to give up on strength. I know I can lean out and keep numbers climbing with a diet tune up. I have been chasing a 4 plate bench for a while now and it’s happening in 2018.
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Studhorse said:
"I am stubborn and refuse to give up on strength" I have been fighting this for 35 years! I think I'm just going to try to cut some fat and If I lose some strength, Just try to deal with the mental part of it. wish me luck!

I can always put it back on if it gets to me too much.
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You guys both look great. What you have been doing has taken you a long way. For most people that's a really good reason to be stubborn. Why change something that's taking you so far?

The thing to keep in mind is I think when people start to diet they lose strength and they assume that they are losing muscle. The fact of the matter is you just don't have the energy to create as much force so your muscles can contract is hard. It's more chemical than it is muscle mass. Couple this in with glycogen depletion from dieting and your muscles appear to shrink because you're not as full of water. All these things will come back very quickly once you carb up and get back on a normal diet. It can be a real brain game though.

I know that personally the first 2 weeks of an extreme diet, and I mean extreme, I will see some dramatic drop in how much weight I can lift. Once I adjust this tends to start rebounding. And then when I come off a diet the strength comes back fast. It isn't that I'm rebuilding muscle is that I've always had that muscle and never lost it. I just lost the ability to fuel it.
 
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