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HiTech and IGF-1

excuse my lack of knowledge but what is the big difference between an oral product like MK 677 and this new Hi Tech product
 
BBiceps said:
When will this be released? I'll try a bottle
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we have it on our website currently, and a1supps has it so far it looks like.

We just started shipping to retailers on Monday, so it should start popping up everywhere soon

rowz4broz said:
excuse my lack of knowledge but what is the big difference between an oral product like MK 677 and this new Hi Tech product
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MK 677 causes the body to produce/release more growth hormone. It is widely speculated that the majority of GH's benefits come from the increased levels of IGF-1 it provides.


HTP IGF-1 takes out the middle man, and instead of messing with GH levels, it provides the body with higher levels of IGF-1 directly.

In THEORY...it's like taking a steroid instead of taking a prohormone. They both get you the same active hormone, one is just more effective at delivering it.


NOTE: I am not saying Pro IGF-1 is a steroid or will deliver steroid like gains. What it will produce for results in muscle growth, strength enhancement, or recovery benefits in end users will take a few weeks to garner as more and more try it. I know what our alpha/beta testers experienced on it, but what I claim our employees/testers got from the product is not going to matter to many here so I've decided to simply omit those results in the hopes of providing as unbiased of information as possible
 
VaughnTrue said:
we have it on our website currently, and a1supps has it so far it looks like.

We just started shipping to retailers on Monday, so it should start popping up everywhere soon



MK 677 causes the body to produce/release more growth hormone. It is widely speculated that the majority of GH's benefits come from the increased levels of IGF-1 it provides.


HTP IGF-1 takes out the middle man, and instead of messing with GH levels, it provides the body with higher levels of IGF-1 directly.

In THEORY...it's like taking a steroid instead of taking a prohormone. They both get you the same active hormone, one is just more effective at delivering it.


NOTE: I am not saying Pro IGF-1 is a steroid or will deliver steroid like gains. What it will produce for results in muscle growth, strength enhancement, or recovery benefits in end users will take a few weeks to garner as more and more try it. I know what our alpha/beta testers experienced on it, but what I claim our employees/testers got from the product is not going to matter to many here so I've decided to simply omit those results in the hopes of providing as unbiased of information as possible
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Mind sharing what benefits your employees/testers saw from it? Did they get bloodwork?
 
user567 said:
Mind sharing what benefits your employees/testers saw from it? Did they get bloodwork?
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The results I have received first hand from alpha/beta testers was significantly enhanced recovery times, painful pumps (especially when dosed ~90 mins preworkout), reduced body weight (almost everyone noted that they were getting noticeably leaner while using this), and pretty impressive LBM gains (3-6lbs)...all when not changing any other factors like diet/supplements.


I am waiting for official before/after blood test pdf/files, once I receive them and am given the OK, I'll post them up here.
 
VaughnTrue said:
The results I have received first hand from alpha/beta testers was significantly enhanced recovery times, painful pumps (especially when dosed ~90 mins preworkout), reduced body weight (almost everyone noted that they were getting noticeably leaner while using this), and pretty impressive LBM gains (3-6lbs)...all when not changing any other factors like diet/supplements.


I am waiting for official before/after blood test pdf/files, once I receive them and am given the OK, I'll post them up here.
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sounds good..since we're talking about hyperplasia needing to take place I assume the LBM gains took place over a matter of months.(?)
 
JohnnieFreeze said:
sounds good..since we're talking about hyperplasia needing to take place I assume the LBM gains took place over a matter of months.(?)
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testers each used it for 4-8 weeks.

With normal IGF-1 LR3 cycles, people dont usually take it for longer than 6-8 weeks due to receptor degradation from what I've read. Not sure how legit that is. I personally never messed with peptides while I was competing.
 
VaughnTrue said:
testers each used it for 4-8 weeks.

With normal IGF-1 LR3 cycles, people dont usually take it for longer than 6-8 weeks due to receptor degradation from what I've read. Not sure how legit that is. I personally never messed with peptides while I was competing.
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right..short cycle lengths..but results from IGF-1 use in terms of muscle cell proliferation/differentiation would still take a while...results showing up long after the cycle has ended.
 
JohnnieFreeze said:
right..short cycle lengths..but results from IGF-1 use in terms of muscle cell proliferation/differentiation would still take a while...results showing up long after the cycle has ended.
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ive done a lot of reading on IGF-1 cycles over the past few weeks, and from what logs/reviews I've seen is people report pretty impressive size gains within 4-8 weeks time
 
VaughnTrue said:
ive done a lot of reading on IGF-1 cycles over the past few weeks, and from what logs/reviews I've seen is people report pretty impressive size gains within 4-8 weeks time
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That would just be a different mechanism than muscle cell differentiation but gains are gains. :-)
 
true hyperplasia takes about 6 months so would this be a 6 month product ? Also that means when I stack this with mk677 I would be assuming mk677 bed time and igf1 preworkout with my pre workout shake .
 
I'm interested in comparisons to MK-677 and other injectable peptides. If it can stack up to peptides I would be very interested due to the purity issues.
 
djbombsquad said:
true hyperplasia takes about 6 months so would this be a 6 month product ? Also that means when I stack this with mk677 I would be assuming mk677 bed time and igf1 preworkout with my pre workout shake .
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This is what I was getting at.. hyperplasia takes months...but you shouldn't have to take it for 6 months straight in order to get results in 6 months..although I wonder what a decent cycle length should be.
 
VaughnTrue has there been any logs here or elsewhere. I'm curious about trying this out but would love to see some feedback before dropping about $150 Canadian. Thanks
 
VaughnTrue has there been any logs here or elsewhere. I'm curious about trying this out but would love to see some feedback before dropping about $150 Canadian. Thanks
 
I should have my bottle in the next day or so. Already got my blood work done for IGF-1 level. Ready to go with a log
 
ironkill said:
VaughnTrue has there been any logs here or elsewhere. I'm curious about trying this out but would love to see some feedback before dropping about $150 Canadian. Thanks
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no, the product was just made available this week. No one has had enough time to run it yet on the forums for that.

djbombsquad said:
true hyperplasia takes about 6 months so would this be a 6 month product ? Also that means when I stack this with mk677 I would be assuming mk677 bed time and igf1 preworkout with my pre workout shake .
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IGF-1 cycles usually tap out at 6 weeks. Again, compare this directly to how one would traditionally run IGF-1 Lr3
 
IGF-1 cycles usually tap out at 6 weeks. Again, compare this directly to how one would traditionally run IGF-1 Lr3
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Hence the 50 day supply ..props to your company for actually giving the entire cycle length in 1 bottle.
 
JohnnieFreeze said:
Hence the 50 day supply ..props to your company for actually giving the entire cycle length in 1 bottle.
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yup...i was surprised at how perfect the dosing/length included is.

traditionally, when you buy IGF-1 as a peptide, you buy it in 1mg increments.

Our product contains that exact amount.
 
ironkill said:
Any deals anywhere for this?
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i would not expect to see any big discounts any time soon. From what I have been shown, it is an extremely expensive product to produce. I think the current price of $94.95 is going to be pretty rock steady.
 
I have always, ALWAYS been intrigued by IGF-1. I personally have never used it though but I have been following this Hi-Tech product very closely (since it was announced). And although a bit skeptical (like everyone else on oral IGF-1) I'm definitely going to give it a run and like Vaughn said, all the beta users seemed to have excellent results so that has my hopes pretty high.

I'm going to buy a bottle off a1 and start a log here. Once I get it, and start my log I'll post the link up here :)






-Spaz
 
VaughnTrue said:
no, the product was just made available this week. No one has had enough time to run it yet on the forums for that.




IGF-1 cycles usually tap out at 6 weeks. Again, compare this directly to how one would traditionally run IGF-1 Lr3
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I think of igf1 lr3 more like a gda vs igf1.
 
Should all 5 be taken at once or spread out?

Also this warning is in the description: Individuals who consume caffeine with this product may experience serious adverse health effects. Individuals who are sensitive to the effects of caffeine should consult a licensed healthcare professional before consuming this product.

Is caffeine really a concern when taking this product?
 
Big_Spaz said:
Hi-Tech's official site says take 5 daily and do not exceed the recommended dosage.

So when I run mine, I'm going to spread each dose out, 5 AM, 10 AM, 2 PM, 5 PM, 8 PM



-Spaz
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I'd take 5/day in one bolus dose, either 90 mins prewo, or directly post workout.

ironkill said:
Should all 5 be taken at once or spread out?

Also this warning is in the description: Individuals who consume caffeine with this product may experience serious adverse health effects. Individuals who are sensitive to the effects of caffeine should consult a licensed healthcare professional before consuming this product.

Is caffeine really a concern when taking this product?
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not sure why that would be listed tbh...i can't foresee any issues there
 
VaughnTrue said:
I'd take 5/day in one bolus dose, either 90 mins prewo, or directly post workout.



not sure why that would be listed tbh...i can't foresee any issues there
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Good to know Vaughn. I don't have product in hand (yet) so I'll change my dosing scheme. I'm going to do all 5 caps pre-workout like Vaughn explained. So for me that will be all 5 caps at 4 AM :)




-Spaz
 
Was doing some resurch, and stumbled acrosss multiple
articals that said IGF-1 will make your organs grow? What's up with that?
 
Just went ahead and ordered a bottle. I had recent tendon surgery so I'm looking for recovery and a little extra boost with healing.
 
Know some people that will be purchasing and using a some of this soon. Interested to hear some reviews, very good product in theory with the delivery system
 
Essentially I just feel that this would be in the hands of the FDA/Big Pharma if it did anything significant. If it turns out that it actually does work, I think it will be a short run for Hi-Tech with this product before they take over, or just ban it altogether..
 
Ricky10 said:
Essentially I just feel that this would be in the hands of the FDA/Big Pharma if it did anything significant. If it turns out that it actually does work, I think it will be a short run for Hi-Tech with this product before they take over, or just ban it altogether..
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That was my biggest skepticism.
 
Ricky10 said:
Essentially I just feel that this would be in the hands of the FDA/Big Pharma if it did anything significant. If it turns out that it actually does work, I think it will be a short run for Hi-Tech with this product before they take over, or just ban it altogether..
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Well no ones been able to make actual IGF stable enough for any amount of trouble so if hi-tech have figured it out then you're probably right! It's such and unstable and sensitive peptide id like too know how they made it more stable! Even LR3 and DES degrade super quick.
 
Joe12 said:
Was doing some resurch, and stumbled acrosss multiple
articals that said IGF-1 will make your organs grow? What's up with that?
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There's IGF receptors all around your body, it's mainly systemic growth when your muscles aren't asking for them
 
Juicedeez utz said:
Well no ones been able to make actual IGF stable enough for any amount of trouble so if hi-tech have figured it out then you're probably right! It's such and unstable and sensitive peptide is like too know how they made it more stable! Even LR3 and DES degrade super quick.
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So is the product bs?
 
Juicedeez utz said:
There's IGF receptors all around your body, it's mainly systemic growth when your muscles aren't asking for them
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Joe12 said:
Yea that's to high of a risk for me. I was thinking about trying it until I read more.
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Well, I don't know about you, but if I end up taking this product at some point...I will be channeling any excess IGF to one very specific organ only.

I don't want to hear anyone say that I can't do it either!
 
Ricky10 said:
Well, I don't know about you, but if I end up taking this product at some point...I will be channeling any excess IGF to one very specific organ only.

I don't want to hear anyone say that I can't do it either!
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Bro, that literally made me lol
 
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