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Best natty test booster?

Johnold said:
So, i didnt realize that MAN Sports brought back the old stuff and have been busy strong. Might have to reconsider.
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Johnold you giving me the impression you never researched test boosters..Stop spamming please and search the forums and write comments in one reply..
 
Curious, has anybody used Test1fy by Olympus Labs. I compared ingredients, and K1ngs Blood seems to be just better in everyway, unless I'm not quite catching something?
 
YamahaC76 said:
Curious, has anybody used Test1fy by Olympus Labs. I compared ingredients, and K1ngs Blood seems to be just better in everyway, unless I'm not quite catching something?
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I did, save your money! Alphamax XT blows it to pieces, starting my m-test run nxt week so hoping it's as good or better
 
jt75 said:
I did, save your money! Alphamax XT blows it to pieces, starting my m-test run nxt week so hoping it's as good or better
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I like it so far (at the 4 pill mark) so one month supply (if you need that much?) I'm unfamiliar with the estrogen control. I have only used suicide AI control compounds like Arimistane and Exemestane. These are obviously WAY too much if I'm not running a cycle (which I'm not) so this is a more casual approach to Estrogen control?
 
YamahaC76 said:
I like it so far (at the 4 pill mark) so one month supply (if you need that much?) I'm unfamiliar with the estrogen control. I have only used suicide AI control compounds like Arimistane and Exemestane. These are obviously WAY too much if I'm not running a cycle (which I'm not) so this is a more casual approach to Estrogen control?
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I would always run a test booster for 8 weeks to get the full benefits from them, 1 month isn't enough imo
 
jt75 said:
I would always run a test booster for 8 weeks to get the full benefits from them, 1 month isn't enough imo
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Well I won't get Test1fy, that's for sure. It's between K1ngs Blood and Alphamax XT seem to be my comparisons now. I guess it comes down to how much stinging nettle actually works haha. That vs 1 gram of L-DOPA in KB...BUT, at 50$ a month, I'm not sure. Just want to keep my Leydig cells happy haha.
 
00A said:
Johnold you giving me the impression you never researched test boosters..Stop spamming please and search the forums and write comments in one reply..
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Nah ive taken quite a few test boosters/muscle builders.

Just wondering if MAN Sports is truly bringing back PR-XT. That was among the greats back in the day.
 
Dare I ask: Is anyone getting blood drawn to show that one "booster" blows another "out of the water"? Or is it just highly susceptible to influence, "feel"?
 
Even if its not this time. The ingredients listed would still work.

Im not saying it was spiked either. I took PR-XT for a year back to back over and over and i dissagree that it was spiked. I didnt get shut down or and crazy negative sides etc.
 
I love pr-XT ..it def does feel like a cycle

I was doing 8weeks and cut it short to 6 due to nose bleed & acne .. which is a good indication of what's in there (only happens to me in cycle)

I do have 3.5bottles stashed away

Still can't say for sure but def feels like it
 
YamahaC76 said:
Well I won't get Test1fy, that's for sure. It's between K1ngs Blood and Alphamax XT seem to be my comparisons now. I guess it comes down to how much stinging nettle actually works haha. That vs 1 gram of L-DOPA in KB...BUT, at 50$ a month, I'm not sure. Just want to keep my Leydig cells happy haha.
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GQdaLEGEND said:
I love pr-XT ..it def does feel like a cycle

I was doing 8weeks and cut it short to 6 due to nose bleed & acne .. which is a good indication of what's in there (only happens to me in cycle)

I do have 3.5bottles stashed away

Still can't say for sure but def feels like it
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One of my friends felt lethargic and had pretty dark urine while on PR XT. (Old batch). New batch didnt gave any results
 
Danes said:
One of my friends felt lethargic and had pretty dark urine while on PR XT. (Old batch). New batch didnt gave any results
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Ill check my batch and exp date .. unsure if it was new or old

regardless i put on about 5-7lbs in 5weeks ..pretty rare
 
this thread keeps getting better and better, lol!!!

I think it is on gps autodrive:party:
 
Well, All jokes aside after my Sparta Labs Trojan PCT is done, Ill be getting bloods done at the end of June a month after I complete the product to see if it worked. I have my mid cycle bloods to compare it too, and the ingredient list in the PCT. I can definitely say it's working. I feel great, and if my serum is anywhere above 300, we are looking good. Granted I am also taking 50mg of Arimistane a day and have lips dryer than the Sahara.. (not really but I blew through a lot of chapstick in 2 weeks haha).

Point is, I DO have bloods to compare to, after taking Osta getting shutdown/slowed production. Jewels were noticeably smaller and was super moody, getting gyno symptoms at an estrogen level of 60 (15pts above natural max range). I stopped after I broke out in my face and started to lightly scar. Wasn't for me.

The conclusion is, I wanted something that wasn't an Rx Serm to get me back to normal due to a 5 week cycle. I didn't touch anything for most of April and that was a slowwww month, wasn't a fan. Had enough, picked up my Sparta PCT (got two bottles for cheap) and I liked the ingredients on it vs 95% of what I have seen out there(laxogenin is whatever though). This was before I cam across this thread. But I feel loads better and everything in the land down under is where I remember it being.

So....If this works, Ill come back, give an update on bloods, and Pick the test booster that has the ingredients I'm looking for.

-BTW, 10mg of Boron I believe is the clinical dose you need to see results, this is equivalent to 200mg of Boron Citrate, so if you're seeing anything less, I doubt it's doing anything. I COULD be mistaken on this, in that case, please point out what I'm missing. Iv'e also seen 100mg of boron citrate = 10mg of boron. So I believe boron citrate is not the same as boron which is where the studies are. so basically 5mg of boron citrate is useless if this is the case.

I'd imagine adding 25mg of Arimistane a day to these test boosters will put them over the top unless they have a heavy natural estrogen control already....
 
YamahaC76 said:
Well, All jokes aside after my Sparta Labs Trojan PCT is done, Ill be getting bloods done at the end of June a month after I complete the product to see if it worked. I have my mid cycle bloods to compare it too, and the ingredient list in the PCT. I can definitely say it's working. I feel great, and if my serum is anywhere above 300, we are looking good. Granted I am also taking 50mg of Arimistane a day and have lips dryer than the Sahara.. (not really but I blew through a lot of chapstick in 2 weeks haha).

Point is, I DO have bloods to compare to, after taking Osta getting shutdown/slowed production. Jewels were noticeably smaller and was super moody, getting gyno symptoms at an estrogen level of 60 (15pts above natural max range). I stopped after I broke out in my face and started to lightly scar. Wasn't for me.

The conclusion is, I wanted something that wasn't an Rx Serm to get me back to normal due to a 5 week cycle. I didn't touch anything for most of April and that was a slowwww month, wasn't a fan. Had enough, picked up my Sparta PCT (got two bottles for cheap) and I liked the ingredients on it vs 95% of what I have seen out there(laxogenin is whatever though). This was before I cam across this thread. But I feel loads better and everything in the land down under is where I remember it being.

So....If this works, Ill come back, give an update on bloods, and Pick the test booster that has the ingredients I'm looking for.

-BTW, 10mg of Boron I believe is the clinical dose you need to see results, this is equivalent to 200mg of Boron Citrate, so if you're seeing anything less, I doubt it's doing anything. I COULD be mistaken on this, in that case, please point out what I'm missing. Iv'e also seen 100mg of boron citrate = 10mg of boron. So I believe boron citrate is not the same as boron which is where the studies are. so basically 5mg of boron citrate is useless if this is the case.

I'd imagine adding 25mg of Arimistane a day to these test boosters will put them over the top unless they have a heavy natural estrogen control already....
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Sparta Labs ? You mean Sparta Nutrition?
 
NMDA by APS Nutrition, is that voted too dangerous for testosterone? 100x Seems dangerous,...since DAA already works to some degree...I took it out of my cart, elected not to since I can't find any safe info on this.
 
I had a bad experience with M-Test, long story short I felt edgy and ****ty on it, and I had what I presume to be a large DHT response on it. My hairline suffered, and my skin was as greasy as ****. Now I know theres a ton of people will say that those side effects were indicators of test increase, but Ive had much better results with different natural test boosters, without these side effects. Namely, Kingsblood, which is awesome as ****. Back on the Kingsblood, and luckily, My hairline has recovered.
 
dbuckley82 said:
I had a bad experience with M-Test, long story short I felt edgy and ****ty on it, and I had what I presume to be a large DHT response on it. My hairline suffered, and my skin was as greasy as ****. Now I know theres a ton of people will say that those side effects were indicators of test increase, but Ive had much better results with different natural test boosters, without these side effects. Namely, Kingsblood, which is awesome as ****. Back on the Kingsblood, and luckily, My hairline has recovered.
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I dunno about those sides on a natty product.
 
Well ive never tried it. But ill pass for now.

On the subject, did IFORCE reformulate tropinol xp?


Because on their Facebook page they show tropinol xp with a new label.
 
Can someone tell me why there are 2 different versions of IFORCE Dexaprine products?

Dexaprine
Dexaprine XR
 
Ok, dishonesty bugs me. dbuckley82 has stated he lost hair when using a Fadogia before. Buys M-Test, which contains said ingredient, and loses hair. Not a single other person lost hair. I maintained my long, glorious mane when I use it. So it wasn't M-Test itself, which is filled with lots of people not going bald. You don't respond to Fadogia well, which is cool. We all have stuff we don't like/respond to. But to make a blanket statement is silly.
 
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Lol. Wow. It would appear I touched a nerve. Dishonesty eh? You're just annoyed that I voiced a displeasure over having a negative response to your product, SNS rep. Lets get that really out in the open. I had a negative experience your product. Yes I had a bad experience with fadogia, but that was years ago, took a second chance at it, didn't work out. I didn't say that it was a bad product, I simply responded to another poster who referred to a study on Fadogia in which it negative affected testicular function, and I shared my experience with the product, and offered insight on the aforementioned poster on Kingsblood, which he also stated he was considering. You calling your customers 'dishonest' is not the way to support your fan base, SNS rep.
 
YamahaC76 said:
...and if my serum is anywhere above 300, we are looking good. Point is, I DO have bloods to compare to, after taking Osta getting shutdown/slowed production... at an estrogen level of 60 (15pts above natural max range).
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Do you have "Pre Taking Anything" Bloodwork? I'd like to know what your normal baseline is. To clarify, you took Ostarine (How much, how long?) and were suppressed down to 300ng/dl Total T, at Mid-Cycle? You then took a full bottle of Sparta Nutrition PCT (4 weeks I assume?) and are waiting another 4 weeks after completion of that, to draw blood again? And you just want to be better than 300ng/dl (as much as possible, obviously)?

JMO, and I know money doesn't grow on trees - but with a Natty product, your highest levels will probably be toward the end of the bottle. It's not like a SERM, where you need to wait 8 weeks to get a "natural" level, due to half-life. But I guess it depends on what you are going for.

UncleSARM's Log of Ostarine and "recovering" with a "Natty PCT":

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/276430-first-osta-cycle.html
 
The_Old_Guy said:
Do you have "Pre Taking Anything" Bloodwork? I'd like to know what your normal baseline is. To clarify, you took Ostarine (How much, how long?) and were suppressed down to 300ng/dl Total T, at Mid-Cycle? You then took a full bottle of Sparta Nutrition PCT (4 weeks I assume?) and are waiting another 4 weeks after completion of that, to draw blood again? And you just want to be better than 300ng/dl (as much as possible, obviously)?

JMO, and I know money doesn't grow on trees - but with a Natty product, your highest levels will probably be toward the end of the bottle. It's not like a SERM, where you need to wait 8 weeks to get a "natural" level, due to half-life. But I guess it depends on what you are going for.

UncleSARM's Log of Ostarine and "recovering" with a "Natty PCT":

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/276430-first-osta-cycle.html
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Pre taking Bloodwork is VERY important.
Example:
I am running Natural Test booster and my liver enzymes are elevated due to stress, fatigue or even some health issues without knowing it.
So if I ran Bloodwork after usage of the product, I will easily blame the product for my elevated liver enzymes.
 
The_Old_Guy said:
Do you have "Pre Taking Anything" Bloodwork? I'd like to know what your normal baseline is. To clarify, you took Ostarine (How much, how long?) and were suppressed down to 300ng/dl Total T, at Mid-Cycle? You then took a full bottle of Sparta Nutrition PCT (4 weeks I assume?) and are waiting another 4 weeks after completion of that, to draw blood again? And you just want to be better than 300ng/dl (as much as possible, obviously)?

JMO, and I know money doesn't grow on trees - but with a Natty product, your highest levels will probably be toward the end of the bottle. It's not like a SERM, where you need to wait 8 weeks to get a "natural" level, due to half-life. But I guess it depends on what you are going for.

UncleSARM's Log of Ostarine and "recovering" with a "Natty PCT":
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Appreciate the help. I regretfully do not have Pre-Cycle Bloods. I rushed into this in desperation assuming the doctors had my blood work (I had lot's done that year for various hormones, but apparently never testosterone?) I was fairly clueless on how that all worked...I had to be stern with my doctor when asking for the hormone panel mid cycle, as they were telling me to just "wait it out"...thats my GP for ya.

I took 25mg a day, for 4 weeks. I stopped after that due to early gyno symptoms coupled with (perceived) shrinking of the testicles. I honestly thought they looked and felt smaller than what I was use to. Estrogen serum at that time was 60. I then waited 1 month consuming no products. After that 4 weeks, I had enough of feeling like crap, so I took the Trojan PCT which made me feel loads better. And I still do. I will be getting blood drawn on this following Monday.

I suppose I'm not going for the highest number immediately after the bottle, but thought it would be better to wait month to see where my body falls in homeostasis as that would be a more accurate number. Is this better?
 
YamahaC76 said:
I suppose I'm not going for the highest number immediately after the bottle, but thought it would be better to wait month to see where my body falls in homeostasis as that would be a more accurate number. Is this better?
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Waiting is certainly the best way to hopefully get a homeostatic level - I was just thinking if you wanted to "test" (pun intended) the Test Booster, you want bloods soon after finishing. Oh, and was your E2 assayed using the "Sensitive" method? See:

The commonly used Estradiol test may overestimate Estradiol. That test uses immunoassay technology that cannot differentiate C-Reactive Protein (involved in inflammation) from Estradiol, so it reads the combination of the two as Estradiol. The Sensitive Estradiol test is based on Liquid Chromatography/Mass Spectrometry (LC/MS), an assay technology that does not have that limitation.
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dbuckley82 said:
Lol. Wow. It would appear I touched a nerve. Dishonesty eh? You're just annoyed that I voiced a displeasure over having a negative response to your product, SNS rep. Lets get that really out in the open. I had a negative experience your product. Yes I had a bad experience with fadogia, but that was years ago, took a second chance at it, didn't work out. I didn't say that it was a bad product, I simply responded to another poster who referred to a study on Fadogia in which it negative affected testicular function, and I shared my experience with the product, and offered insight on the aforementioned poster on Kingsblood, which he also stated he was considering. You calling your customers 'dishonest' is not the way to support your fan base, SNS rep.
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It's how you PHRASED it. You phrased like an old "Reefer Madness" video. "Don't take the M-Test! Your hair will fall out!" If you said, "I used a fadogia product before and had a bad experience. Decided to give it another whirl and I had a bad experience again. If you don't like fadogia, you won't like this." I can get behind and even support what you say because fadogia doesn't agree with you. I actually think it's a GOOD thing if you put out something like that because it shows that it's a legit ingredient. I don't expect everyone to enjoy M-Test. It just isn't possible for everyone to be pleased. But I will call out poor phrasing, especially when you didn't throw in your prior experience. That is all. :)
 
The_Old_Guy said:
Waiting is certainly the best way to hopefully get a homeostatic level - I was just thinking if you wanted to "test" (pun intended) the Test Booster, you want bloods soon after finishing. Oh, and was your E2 assayed using the "Sensitive" method? See:
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Alright, good to know then. I may have crashed my estrogen (or lowered it too low) a few days ago. I noticed instead of feeling better after taking the Sparta PCT, I felt well...worse lol. And I took it again that day because it was the final dose (dosed evenly out through the day) and no...just no, felt very strange. So the 50mg of Arimistane added up for sure.

As for my Estradiol, I can only assume it was ran this way. If it was overestimating, then I embarrassingly get gyno symptoms at a very low estrogen range for any mild form of anabolic...Well who knows really. Isn't the max range in a male for E2, 45? Normal range being 15-45?

As for the Test Booster M-Test, I will see about any of these after my blood work and will give an update here. Just curious, my Free Test was at 98.8. Is this high? It's either that or K1ngs blood, but I personally find M-Test much more appealing due to ingredients, and numbers...as for Fadogia in it, I am going to go for it :)
 
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