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One should always be saving for future pescience sales/insiders. But stay tuned as we will have much more info on specifics in the next few weeks. :)
Good news. But I agree. You should always save for a rainy day or another PES Insider
 
Hahaha, I'm a judge in a margarita contest tonight for a charity event...I should give a plug for margarita alphamine!

make sure you take some before you go... you know, to make sure you don't pass out ;)
 
A question to PES reps. May be Ben could chime in on this.

How's the sales for Alphamine so far after the change of formula? If indeed the reason was to target the larger crowd by changing the formula to an "energy" like drink, how's the sale after almost a year now compared to the OG?
 
A question to PES reps. May be Ben could chime in on this.

How's the sales for Alphamine so far after the change of formula? If indeed the reason was to target the larger crowd by changing the formula to an "energy" like drink, how's the sale after almost a year now compared to the OG?

There were many, many reasons we decided to reformulate. One of which was removing yohimbe as it is a very problematic ingredient (diverse bioavailability, high risk of side effects which is an issue when your customer base becomes larger and larger). After removing yohimbe, coming up with a compliant stimulant which has human data on fat loss is nearly impossible. As you well know, many companies have "fat loss" formulas which use ingredients with no actual fat loss data (long term human data which actually measures body composition rather than a single surrogate biomarker).

Also, calling it a fat loss powder is tricky from a marketing perspective because people trying to gain weight thought that they shouldn't use Alphamine, despite using pre workouts which shared the same ingredients (viewing one as a fat loss powder which wasn't conducive to their bulking goals and viewing the other as a pre workout which is fine for them to use).

Some people hate that we changed it but there are so many factors that went into the product change that they simply don't consider. These include safety, compliance, marketing, sales trends and global availability. We viewed it as an intellectually honest way of selling the product because we didn't want to follow the trend of calling something a fat loss powder if the ingredients we used only had a tenuous link to fat loss. Therefore it made sense to rebrand it completely and call it an energy drink and let customers use it as they wish.

Since we reformulated it, sales of Alphamine have gone up significantly, not just in other countries which are now able to use the same formula that we sell in the US but also in America as well. :)
 
There were many, many reasons we decided to reformulate. One of which was removing yohimbe as it is a very problematic ingredient (diverse bioavailability, high risk of side effects which is an issue when your customer base becomes larger and larger). After removing yohimbe, coming up with a compliant stimulant which has human data on fat loss is nearly impossible. As you well know, many companies have "fat loss" formulas which use ingredients with no actual fat loss data (long term human data which actually measures body composition rather than a single surrogate biomarker).

Also, calling it a fat loss powder is tricky from a marketing perspective because people trying to gain weight thought that they shouldn't use Alphamine, despite using pre workouts which shared the same ingredients (viewing one as a fat loss powder which wasn't conducive to their bulking goals and viewing the other as a pre workout which is fine for them to use).

Some people hate that we changed it but there are so many factors that went into the product change that they simply don't consider. These include safety, compliance, marketing, sales trends and global availability. We viewed it as an intellectually honest way of selling the product because we didn't want to follow the trend of calling something a fat loss powder if the ingredients we used only had a tenuous link to fat loss. Therefore it made sense to rebrand it completely and call it an energy drink and let customers use it as they wish.

Since we reformulated it, sales of Alphamine have gone up significantly, not just in other countries which are now able to use the same formula that we sell in the US but also in America as well. :)
Very nice explanation and great points as always Ben. As tough as it is for people to believe the new version hits me just as strong as the old but actually has a much cleaner and welcomed feel for me. I am one of the users that dosed just as an energy drink or preworkout booster though so my personal opinion may not touch on point with all users. Having a product with a single ingredient panel that is formulated for all crowds just made much more sense. We will never be able to please everyone with any product but I do feel we had the interest of the vast majority in mind. :)
 
There were many, many reasons we decided to reformulate. One of which was removing yohimbe as it is a very problematic ingredient (diverse bioavailability, high risk of side effects which is an issue when your customer base becomes larger and larger). After removing yohimbe, coming up with a compliant stimulant which has human data on fat loss is nearly impossible. As you well know, many companies have "fat loss" formulas which use ingredients with no actual fat loss data (long term human data which actually measures body composition rather than a single surrogate biomarker).

Also, calling it a fat loss powder is tricky from a marketing perspective because people trying to gain weight thought that they shouldn't use Alphamine, despite using pre workouts which shared the same ingredients (viewing one as a fat loss powder which wasn't conducive to their bulking goals and viewing the other as a pre workout which is fine for them to use).

Some people hate that we changed it but there are so many factors that went into the product change that they simply don't consider. These include safety, compliance, marketing, sales trends and global availability. We viewed it as an intellectually honest way of selling the product because we didn't want to follow the trend of calling something a fat loss powder if the ingredients we used only had a tenuous link to fat loss. Therefore it made sense to rebrand it completely and call it an energy drink and let customers use it as they wish.

Since we reformulated it, sales of Alphamine have gone up significantly, not just in other countries which are now able to use the same formula that we sell in the US but also in America as well. :)
Well thought out response. I'll admit that I miss the OG formula, but also admit that the new one works exactly the way I need it to. I drink energy drinks before every workout, and this has shrunk that cost for me signifcantly and tastes much much better.

Only downside: I miss having energy drinks in cans lol
 
Well thought out response. I'll admit that I miss the OG formula, but also admit that the new one works exactly the way I need it to. I drink energy drinks before every workout, and this has shrunk that cost for me signifcantly and tastes much much better.

Only downside: I miss having energy drinks in cans lol
Pretty much sums it up for me. That sunrise on my way to work every morning is exactly what I love in my life. :)
 
I wake up to cotton candy every work day, definitely saving me $ that would have gone to Monster sugar free energy drinks
 
I wake up to cotton candy every work day, definitely saving me $ that would have gone to Monster sugar free energy drinks
Had two 1 scoop samples of CC left over yesterday that I consumed preworkout. That flavor is so good as a stand alone. Don't remember if I tried mixing it when I had my tubs but it is just so damn tasty.
 
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Anyone tagging along please be sure to post up those PEScience stashes scored on these incredible insider deals. Plenty of products to score on this promo including a tub of our new PBCookie select! :)
 
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Anyone tagging along please be sure to post up those PEScience stashes scored on these incredible insider deals. Plenty of products to score on this promo including a tub of our new PBCookie select! :)

Is the contest open to US citizens only? It requires a lot of effort for me to dig out my stash so just want to make sure if it is lol
 
Is the contest open to US citizens only? It requires a lot of effort for me to dig out my stash so just want to make sure if it is lol
Luckily we have no limitations as far as location for our contests ever. Maybe haven a few of our best reps residing on foreign soil has helped with the restrictions but in any case join in brother!
 
wow my PES Stack consists of PES Select + Forskilin95 but only because you dont have any Retailers here :/

I upload a pic of my impressive stack later :p only to dream of a chance to get peanut butter cup select protein :D
 
wow my PES Stack consists of PES Select + Forskilin95 but only because you dont have any Retailers here :/

I upload a pic of my impressive stack later :p only to dream of a chance to get peanut butter cup select protein :D

Where are you brother?

Still a great little stack! Lean gains and tasty protein!
 
wow my PES Stack consists of PES Select + Forskilin95 but only because you dont have any Retailers here :/

I upload a pic of my impressive stack later :p only to dream of a chance to get peanut butter cup select protein :D

Which country are you in?
 
Germany....

There are some but most of them out of stock.

Since FIBO, we have had a few German retailers asking to stock our products.

It is a good idea to email your usual retailer and request them to get the line in. They pay more attention to customer requests than employee emails. :)
 
done that already. Just get your peanut butter cup Select available again.

Only way to buy it is on amazon co uk for 98 EUR lolz

I even have to admit i had it in my cart 3-4 times already...
 
You can always order direct from pescience.com and get flat rate shipping, on larger orders it definitely saves $

With a 30% off code of course
 
done that already. Just get your peanut butter cup Select available again.

Only way to buy it is on amazon co uk for 98 EUR lolz

I even have to admit i had it in my cart 3-4 times already...

Unfortunately peanut butter cup and peanut butter cookie are tricky, they are the two flavours we have to send over from America rather than manufacture more locally.

There are two retailers in the UK which sell these who I believe will ship to Germany. :)
 
Unfortunately peanut butter cup and peanut butter cookie are tricky, they are the two flavours we have to send over from America rather than manufacture more locally.

There are two retailers in the UK which sell these who I believe will ship to Germany. :)
We may have to have you do a special personal delivery when you visit expos over in Germany. :)

Benjis personal delivery at your service. :D
 
Just placed an order for Genoflex since it's BOGO50.

I could use any help for my dislocated shoulder. This is my first time trying Genoflex. Not to mention to add to my growing PES stack
 
There is also 20% off Select, all sizes and all flavours on the same site. :)
 
So I'm in Stockholm to see WWE Smackdown and as I work at a supplement store I like to check out the ones where I travel. And in one store I find this Unicorn!

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So I'm in Stockholm to see WWE Smackdown and as I work at a supplement store I like to check out the ones where I travel. And in one store I find this Unicorn!

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Score !!!
 
Very nice explanation and great points as always Ben. As tough as it is for people to believe the new version hits me just as strong as the old but actually has a much cleaner and welcomed feel for me. I am one of the users that dosed just as an energy drink or preworkout booster though so my personal opinion may not touch on point with all users. Having a product with a single ingredient panel that is formulated for all crowds just made much more sense. We will never be able to please everyone with any product but I do feel we had the interest of the vast majority in mind. :)
Just about time for that Alphamine/High Volume preworkout stack
 
^Nice find!

I know it was hit and miss for people, my least favourite as a shake, but it had some great baking uses
 
Blondie was a marmite flavour, people seemed to either love it or hate it.

It was the slowest seller by a mile so it made sense to discontinue it. We want all of our flavours to be amazing and blondie's average review score just wasn't up to our high standards.
 
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^Nice find!

I know it was hit and miss for people, my least favourite as a shake, but it had some great baking uses

Was one of my least favorites but I know so many who rave about it!

Blondie was a marmite flavour, people seemed to either love it or hate it.

It was the slowest seller by a mile so it made sense to discontinue it. We want all of our flavours to be amazing and blondie's average review score just wasn't up to our high standards.

I never tried it before so I had to get it and I really liked it. Also had it in my Keto Coffee and made some Avocado Ice Cream with it, in both cases it came out amazing.
 
This is on the two letter stores side to decide to order and carry it.

All the two letter storefronts in my area (central CA) stock prolific, amino, select protein, shift, nordecrine, etc but not ergonine. I have no problem ordering it online but I'm just curious is that determined but what they choose to stock / order or is that a PES call? I only ask because they didn't stick star blast bangs but when I asked they orders them and started stocking them so I just didn't know if it was an individual store thing or an enterprise level decision?

Thanks

I talked to them today and they are ordering Nanaberry and Iced Tea. I had to explain to them what it even was, and why it could be a big seller if they knew how to sell it.

They are really nice and caring people at least at my regular one here, but man I cringe when I overhear them telling people who come in with questions about products or for advice what to do. Im not knocking that store in particular, just the whole enterprise of franchised supp shops and how little you have to know. I heard the newer kid telling a lady that the calories from the protein shake dont count toward her daily totals like food because its designed to repair muscle so it "works" differently than other calories.

That's very much appreciated man. Thank you.

And yeah, I'm not surprised by that. I've gone into that franchise and the other popular one, and some of the things you hear are just mind boggling. Sometimes if/when I do go in, I like to fk around with the employees a little.

I know this is off topic, but since I posted about this before, I figured I'd just follow it up and let you all know that all of the "VS" in Monterey Peninsula and Salinas CA are now stocking Ergonine on shelves in multiple flavors. the manager for the "district" as they refer to them didn't understand what the product was so they had not been ordering it. Believe it or not, quite a bit of sale at these stores is done by the associates telling people their recommendations, they didn't know what it was or how to sell. I cleared things up for them and explained this is a great product and one they should likely see benefit from stocking. Happy to report it's now in full swing out here, she told me they have been moving a lot of it lololol. Albeit, my reasoning was selfish, as for some reason this is the one and only damn product I use regularly that I routinely re-order too late and there used to be no place to run out and grab to one to cover down lol.

Anyways, not posting this for PES bros to recognize, but more so that these stores will not just order but are willing to actually stock stuff you want if you justify it, they did the same thing with star blast bangs…
 
I know this is off topic, but since I posted about this before, I figured I'd just follow it up and let you all know that all of the "VS" in Monterey Peninsula and Salinas CA are now stocking Ergonine on shelves in multiple flavors. the manager for the "district" as they refer to them didn't understand what the product was so they had not been ordering it. Believe it or not, quite a bit of sale at these stores is done by the associates telling people their recommendations, they didn't know what it was or how to sell. I cleared things up for them and explained this is a great product and one they should likely see benefit from stocking. Happy to report it's now in full swing out here, she told me they have been moving a lot of it lololol. Albeit, my reasoning was selfish, as for some reason this is the one and only damn product I use regularly that I routinely re-order too late and there used to be no place to run out and grab to one to cover down lol.

Anyways, not posting this for PES bros to recognize, but more so that these stores will not just order but are willing to actually stock stuff you want if you justify it, they did the same thing with star blast bangs…
Very cool of you to explain to them the importance of the product. It's truly an all in 1 type product for so many goals. So many can benefit from it as a staple. Good work brother and thanks for the support. :)
 
I know this is off topic, but since I posted about this before, I figured I'd just follow it up and let you all know that all of the "VS" in Monterey Peninsula and Salinas CA are now stocking Ergonine on shelves in multiple flavors. the manager for the "district" as they refer to them didn't understand what the product was so they had not been ordering it. Believe it or not, quite a bit of sale at these stores is done by the associates telling people their recommendations, they didn't know what it was or how to sell. I cleared things up for them and explained this is a great product and one they should likely see benefit from stocking. Happy to report it's now in full swing out here, she told me they have been moving a lot of it lololol. Albeit, my reasoning was selfish, as for some reason this is the one and only damn product I use regularly that I routinely re-order too late and there used to be no place to run out and grab to one to cover down lol.

Anyways, not posting this for PES bros to recognize, but more so that these stores will not just order but are willing to actually stock stuff you want if you justify it, they did the same thing with star blast bangs…

Very much appreciated my man! But it doesn't surprise me the manager along with other employees, didn't understand what the product was/does. Awesome that you'll have a place to go get it whenever needed if ever running low.

Check your PMs.
 
Yo guys! Hope you good, just wanted to say I tried new alphamine and I must say it's awesome, it's a long time I'm not having caffeine supplements so maybe it's cause of that, my body wasn't used to it but it was great, lot of energy, smooth energy, no rush and lasted all wo, I know it's not the fat burner it used to be... :( by its s very good product especially if you feel drained and you need a kick lol I found it useful especially now I'm cutting on roughly between 1500 and 1780kcals, well done PES ;)
 
What flavour did you give a whirl brother?
Glad to hear it was a win for you
 
What flavour did you give a whirl brother?
Glad to hear it was a win for you

Guess it was sunrise? Something like that, very refreshing ;)
 
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